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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

Eddy1215 Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
#189326: Jan 23rd 2022 at 8:01:42 PM

Hey, I think it'd be best if the Bewitching Bell from My Little Pony be decreed one of the artifacts of the vault.

A man who admires many forms of fiction.
CrimsonShark The Black Blade from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#189327: Jan 23rd 2022 at 8:28:15 PM

My apologies for being really late about this, but here's a [tup] for Necromancer's proposal for what should be done about Alliances.

"O, Death... become my Blade, Once More"
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#189328: Jan 23rd 2022 at 9:14:56 PM

If the alliance reworking is approved, then I say that I have no intention of spreading my profiles to the alliances/groups, they will be profiles exclusively and nothing else. The rest of the other tropers can use their profiles but any additions of GUA interaction to my profiles will not be accepted. That is my decision on the matter.

[down][down]My profiles as I said, and as Bazz has said, my loss. Deal with it.

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Jan 24th 2022 at 1:26:00 AM

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#189329: Jan 23rd 2022 at 9:22:41 PM

[up] Okay, but your loss.

Time to explore the world!
VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#189330: Jan 23rd 2022 at 9:22:42 PM

[up][up] You know you don't fully own any profile here right? Sure, you should not let others delete or tamper with it too much should it compromise the quality but unless the action is removing integrity from the profile I don't think you have any right to tell others what to do and not with a profile posted on the Pantheon.

Edited by VengefulBale on Jan 23rd 2022 at 11:24:29 AM

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#189331: Jan 23rd 2022 at 9:30:57 PM

A minor thing, but if we are going to dim the spotlight on the GUA's, then could we start by removing the Leader of the Grand United Etc stuff they have in their titles? Especially since we're going to have multiple leaders anyway. That sort of stuff feels out of place in the titles and honestly could be easily relegated to the relationships section.

Edited by wootzits on Jan 23rd 2022 at 5:32:36 PM

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#189332: Jan 23rd 2022 at 9:32:44 PM

[up] That should be fine. [tup]

Edited by Bazzardreturns on Jan 23rd 2022 at 9:39:31 AM

Time to explore the world!
CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon
#189333: Jan 23rd 2022 at 10:06:17 PM

I'm fine with the removal of such information.

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#189334: Jan 23rd 2022 at 10:10:01 PM

While checking out the Alliances, I never notice how many factions we actually have.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#189335: Jan 23rd 2022 at 10:13:32 PM

What doctors and people wanting to help would have the same mindset as the Plague Doctor to get along with them. Who might in their madness/obsession agree with him the Pestilence is real and what he's doing is good?

SCP-049, God of the Touch of Death (Plague Doctor, "The Cure", The Doctor, The Surgeon, Mr Pestilence, The Angel, Dr Haselhurst)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/scp_049.png

CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon
#189336: Jan 23rd 2022 at 11:33:08 PM

@ RJ: While I doubt they’d see eye to eye, most of the Sephirot/Patron Librarians followed a woman named Carmen and she sought to cure the “disease of the mind” that existed within every human living in the City. Though, to her credit, there was apparently scientific evidence backing it up if you exclude just going outside and seeing the horrific state of the City with your own eyes. In fact, treating this so-called disease was the actual objective of Lobotomy Corporation, and becoming a large company that supplies clean energy to its fellow Mega Corps was simply a means to that end by its founder, Ayin, who himself was also a follower of Carmen.

Interestingly enough, there was an Abnormality once housed in L Corp’s main branch is known as Plague Doctor. Plague Doctor is a ZAYIN, the lowest threat level that can be granted by Abnormalities, and passes himself off as a kind being who seeks to cure sickness. However, he slowly metamorphosizes each time he blesses an employee and by the 12th baptism, he reveals his true form as the god-like WhiteNight, an ALEPH which is the highest threat level for an Abnormality. Upon transforming, he instantly breaches and transforms the other 11 blessed into beings known as Apostles to “redeem” everyone else in the facility aka horrifically killing them all. SCP-049 and Plague Doctor/WhiteNight are quite alike and one can by extension make the case for Carmen due to her parallels with the latter Abnormality. That includes the being a Well-Intentioned Extremist as Carmen became the “voice” behind the Distortion Phenomenon that showed up in the sequel where she coaxes various people who hit their breaking point into succumbing to their desires and emotions to transform into monsters, otherwise known as “Distorting”. In a nutshell, it's a far darker take on her original goals of curing the "disease" by getting the Cityfolk to embrace and love their true selves.

Edited by CrownlessMimic on Jan 24th 2022 at 12:15:10 PM

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.
mdalsted mdalsted from Chisago City, MN Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
mdalsted
#189337: Jan 24th 2022 at 1:39:07 AM

Tom Nook's trope, Vendor Trash, is now a redirect. Permission to change his trope to Shop Fodder?

Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
No. 1 Entourage Fanboy
#189339: Jan 24th 2022 at 4:46:49 AM

[up][up] [tup] Go ahead.

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...
mdalsted mdalsted from Chisago City, MN Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
mdalsted
#189340: Jan 24th 2022 at 8:17:13 AM

Done and done

Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.
wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#189341: Jan 24th 2022 at 9:35:10 AM

Alright, I've already gone and done what I said above and the characters no longer have their GUA leadership acknowledged in their titles.

SomeoneElse17 Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#189342: Jan 24th 2022 at 12:53:29 PM

@Hamana: You do realize all anyone does by writing a profile is facilitating the entry of a preexisting character into another fictional universe, right? The profiles are not "yours" to control anymore once they're ascended, nor were the characters ever "yours" to begin with. You're not entitled to dictate that what they can or can't be involved in. The only standard that should be applied is quality control and making sure the extra stuff is neither completely irrelevant nor all-encompassing—something that everyone can help with regarding every character, and which is what Necro's rework is being designed to put into place for the entire Pantheon.

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#189343: Jan 24th 2022 at 1:10:11 PM

Regarding this reworking on the Alliances now, its perfect time to upheave the heck of the perception the Warhammer 40000 Imperium has on the Pantheon. Theyre written as good guys and some prominent members are undeniably so but as a whole, they genocided a lot out of people and themselves under the Emperor’s orders. Willing I may add and the Emperor’s hellbent ambitions of making humans the superior species caused his empire to be a shell in the first place.

Also, I didnt realize the Order Of Humanity sounded more like a supremacy group until now. Yes, it fits the Emperor’s ambitions but how he can still be considered a well meaning if extreme hero when he started a group where xenophobia runs rampant around. If I were the GUAG, I’d only let few Imperium guys in but not whatever the hell the Emperor is doing. Yes I know Honorary Xenos section is to downplay this idea but not only does that violate what the Imperium in the lore does (practical the only race who didnt make an honorary system and they just want genocide), it also makes it sound like “I can be xenophobic because my friend is a xeno“ to me when I really think about it.

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Jan 24th 2022 at 1:11:10 AM

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#189344: Jan 24th 2022 at 2:12:48 PM

[up]A large part of that is the Text-to-Speech Device series more or less whitewashing the Emperor's tomb because that series' content creators are ampng the many who believe there's enough to go on to conclude that the Warhammer universe is as grimdark as it is because E's death caused everything—especially the Imperium's crusade—to go off the rails.

Edited by SomeoneElse17 on Jan 24th 2022 at 2:13:10 AM

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#189345: Jan 24th 2022 at 2:20:53 PM

The Emperor literally started his rule with a violent unification of Earth where he carried the genocide of every religious group in the planet followed with a purge of his own army of loyal soldiers as they outlived their usefulness. And then he started the genocide of every alien species that his Empire found.

The Imperium of the 40,000 era, decadent as it is, is less genocidal that the Empire during the days of the Great Crusade in the 30,000, partially because their newfound weakness forces them to learn about cooperation if they want to survive.

Yes, Text-to-Speech does whitewash the Imperium. Its fan content.

Also. The Emperor considering Superman to be a human? Seriously? Not even Superman does that, as he is pretty proud of his Kryptonian heritage, enough to carry a Museum to them in the Fortress of Solitude.

Plus, every Custodian of the Humanity entry is basically characters that canonically oposse alien/ supernatural creature genocide somehow feeling that the Emperor is justified?

Edited by KazuyaProta on Jan 24th 2022 at 5:35:34 AM

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#189346: Jan 24th 2022 at 3:10:22 PM

I believe that The Text to Speech series is treated as canon because whoever made Warhammer dont want to change the setting of "the Emperor is now basically on life support, Imperium sucks, and everything is gonna go to Chaos". I sensed that that series was treated as a sequel because its basically the only continuation even if its parody.

and then the guys who made Warhammer being the British equivalent to Toei, banned the guys who made Text to Speech and anyone from making fanimations. Unsurprising considering that Games Workshop have basically blackmailed artists to work for them. I am surprised nobody feared GW going after the Pantheon in comparison to bloody Tarzan.

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Superman Smashes The Order of Humanity

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Jan 24th 2022 at 3:20:54 AM

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#189347: Jan 24th 2022 at 3:24:10 PM

Between Emperor and Steven, the Order of Humanity is unironically more genocidal that the GUAL at its worst and most of the Harbringers of Opression yet somehow gets treated as if they're kind people..

Edited by KazuyaProta on Jan 24th 2022 at 6:32:22 AM

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#189348: Jan 24th 2022 at 3:34:44 PM

I actually wrote a text in the Adepta Sororitas profile that some of them modelled themselves after Wonder Woman. To be fair, i did it in the older Pantheon times. Maybe it makes more sense for the Injustice version.

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#189349: Jan 24th 2022 at 3:44:34 PM

Not even that, that Wondie is still working with a alien and has ties with supernatural creatures, which is a huge no no for the Imperium.

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#189350: Jan 24th 2022 at 3:46:25 PM

I think i came across of text of them hating magic. But there were exception to them. Its been so long.


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