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Creamy-Sama
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03:11:23 PM Jul 2nd 2014
Should I add Adventures of the American Rabbit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLAof9rID5g

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfTheAmericanRabbit?from=Main.TheAdventuresOfTheAmericanRabbit

Apparently, it is this 80's video bargain bin cartoon done by Fred Wolf of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fame. It, like most 80's cartoons was based on some existing commercial property. This time, a series of greeting cards as with the Care Bears.

I remember catching a little bit of it on the Disney Channel, along with The Raccoons. I could never recall what happened in it, other than an interrogation scene with a gorilla in a water tank, but I thought it looked it cute. Finding out about it again in later life and sitting down to watch it I realize why I didn't understand anything going on it and why I remember The Raccoons a whole lot better.

This movie doesn't make any sense, and there are plot holes galore and all the characters are bland and without personality and there are dozens of characters, and the main character is a Marty Stu to the max. The soundtrack is a ripoff of the Chrisopher Reeve era Superman films.

Nobody seems to like this film. Under the quotes section of the main page we have a snarky comment by a critic, and the main page on it closes out with "Moral of the Story? Never let a greeting card designer make a movie."

Adding insult to injury? This film has one legitimate fan, and he is The Creator of Sonichu. There are even eerie similarities in narrative and structure between Sonichu and this film. You could argue that this film ruined that kid's life.

There are, however a few good things a can say about it, and those three good things were enough to get me through the film at least once. But only once.

  • Rob Paulsen, the Voice of Donnatello and Yakko, and
  • Lorenzo Muzak, Voice of Garfield and Peter Venkman. Both are terrific voice actors and can at least inject some personality into bland lifeless characters with their vocal inflections alone.
  • The animation of Fred Wolf. Despite the designs of the characters being a bit weird with the way the rabbits ears fold over. The animation is akin to a well animated Ninja Turtles episode. It's very detailed and "anime-ish". I hold a nostalgic fondness for this style and I'm a little sad to see it go.

Otherwise this film is a complete trainwreck. What do you guys think?
Aldo930
07:54:17 PM Jul 2nd 2014
edited by 63.133.197.135
If the voice acting and animation is good, this may not count... Then again, the story is probably the most important thing about a movie. Let's see.

Oh, and apparently there's Awesome Music in the movie, provided by Flo and Eddie of Frank Zappa and The Turtles fame...
IDisagree
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04:50:42 PM Jun 15th 2014
I know it's obscure and it's hard to find any reviews that aren't from a Caustic Critic but does "Madballs Gross Jokes" count? It suffers from things like really bad Limited Animation, attempted Vulgar Humor that's neither funny nor Nausea Fuel, unlikable characters, Viewers Are Morons, and being a variety show. It's been thrashed by Mr. Enter and Tooncrap. What do you think
Aldo930
08:13:50 PM Jun 17th 2014
I say it counts.
Idisagree
07:57:14 AM Jun 18th 2014
Then all we need is an entry.
KuroKokoro
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08:27:52 AM May 3rd 2014
Should we add Crash Canyon?
Sammettik
08:49:36 PM May 10th 2014
Do you have a good reason?.
KuroKokoro
09:01:06 AM Jun 15th 2014
I have literally heard nothing positive about it.
supernintendo128
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08:53:09 AM Apr 21st 2014
edited by 99.56.73.89
The animated films folder has been removed. Why?

Edit: Nevermind, I found out why. It was moved to Film
Antwan
06:23:09 AM Apr 22nd 2014
I'll move it back. Film is very large as it is; adding more entries to it could break the size limit.
Furienna
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03:52:42 PM Apr 19th 2014
edited by 192.168.0.3
If I may express my opinion, three of the entries here should be removed.

"Yo Yogi" maybe tried too much to be hip with the kids of the early '90s. But if you can get past that, it's really not such a bad show.

"The wacky world of Tex Avery" does have a very annoying intro, that can give you a migraine. But I actually liked the shorts about Pompeii Pete.

"The king and I" is a movie, that has a very undeserved hatedom. Sure, there are better animated movies out there. But I say that most of the characters are quite likable. And I really enjoyed the love story between the crown prince and the Burmese servant girl.

Those three entries also all seem to be all about some people not liking these shows and this movie, without giving us any good reasons why. Okay, we have the villain's Asian stereotype sidekick in "The king and I". But he was only one character among many others, who were actually likable and not stereotypes...
Aldo930
11:15:22 AM Apr 20th 2014
The Wacky World of Tex Avery apparently is well-loved in Germany, so that probably could discount it for this page.

Yo Yogi!, according to our fellow forum-mate Psi001, had a few genuinely amusing episodes. (I thought so, too, admittedly.) It isn't the worst thing Yogi was in - that'd be Yogi's Gang - but it isn't very good either.
supernintendo128
07:36:25 AM Apr 25th 2014
edited by 99.56.73.89
Yo Yogi! has a 6.1 on TV.com and a 6.3 on IMDb so it gets cut. The King and I stays because it has a 13% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 3.8 on IMDb. The Wacky World of Tex Avery has a 6.8 on TV.com and a 5.1 on IMDb so I guess that's getting cut too.
SizzlyBacon
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08:54:38 PM Apr 3rd 2014
Proposing Johnny Test.
SeptimusHeap
04:00:59 AM Apr 4th 2014
Why?
Aldo930
11:18:55 AM Apr 4th 2014
The show apparently does have a fan base. Some feel it went downhill after its first season - which implies it had something going for it in the first place. People like Peter Paltridge of Platypus Comix like the show.

So, no, it doesn't count.
IDisagree
06:37:46 PM Apr 4th 2014
That and it's considered both So Bad, It's Good and for many, a Guilty Pleasure. I admit it was decent originally but went through Seasonal Rot.

So I highly doubt it counts.
supernintendo128
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08:59:44 PM Apr 1st 2014
edited by 99.56.73.89
I now propose Breadwinners for this page. Almost everyone hates this show, even children. The animation sucks, the main characters are annoying, and the jokes are either mean-spirited or are fart jokes.
IDisagree
01:34:35 PM Apr 2nd 2014
Dear lord, that show looks worse than Sanjay And Craig (which I used to think was the worst Nickolodean had to offer). I saw the previews and knew it might be headed here. However it's still running so ...
Aldo930
11:20:03 AM Apr 4th 2014
Even children hate this show?

I recently saw something that said it was successful amongst kids.

Wait till the series is canceled and then we'll decide.
supernintendo128
11:52:41 AM Apr 4th 2014
"Even children hate this show?"

According to Common Sense Media. Any other sources?
Aldo930
12:14:41 PM Apr 4th 2014
edited by 68.229.67.152
I saw a ratings report saying that it was successful amongst its target audience. I don't think they'd falsify ratings.

It also seems that a lot of the "kid reviews" on Common Sense Media are really adults or teens masquerading as children.
SuperSaiyaMan
05:41:35 PM May 8th 2014
I think it is possible they are falsifying information to make Breadwinners look better than it actually is.
Aldo930
09:28:21 AM May 11th 2014
Then why didn't Fox come out with a ratings report saying Allen Gregory was a huge success? They could have easily done that.
TheAnt1
08:14:49 PM May 12th 2014
edited by 208.93.202.26
Okay, 1. I like Sanjay And Craig 2. It's the show's style, you either like it or you don't. 3. Breadwinners can't be added to this list because most professional critics (like New York Daily News and Los Angeles Times) have given it fair reviews, they haven't praised it, but they haven't bashed it either.
epicmario43
07:15:10 PM Jun 21st 2014
A lot of people seem to really hate this show for a variety of reasons, and i think it qualifies for a lot of reasons, including the fact iMDB gave it a 2.7, which ranks it lower than Allen Gregory. Yes, people hate Breadwinners more than what many people consider the worst show ever (Allen Gregory has 4.4). And i personally think that the "effort" put into making Breadwinners actually earn being "#1" is very poor and that all of this "praise" is just faked for publicity. The Mysterious Mr. Enter made a lot more good points in his review, so i'd probably go see what he had to say to truly see if this qualifies.
Aldo930
10:57:44 PM Jun 30th 2014
Why exactly would Nickelodeon fake the praise? If the show was really, truly bombing it'd be off the network now.

And IMDB ratings are given by adults, who are not the show's target audience.
epicmario43
09:59:41 AM Jul 5th 2014
And this brings up another round of problems: If people don't like the show, adult or not, it's a failure. A good cartoon should be able to be good for both children and adults, and this show fails here. There's also a huge Critical Research Failure provided by Rebel Taxi in which this show promotes feeding bread to ducks - which causes liver diseases! And as of the time of this writing, this show sank to 2.5 in iMDB; to put that in comparison, the bottom 100 list there has films 2.6 or lower. Yes, breadwinners qualifies to be put on the bottom 100. And nick would fake praise to keep the show on the air and to hide their obvious failure they've done; Nick does not want to fail so they try to keep themselves up. And to answer Aldo930, the creators of Allen Gregory knew that it was a failure from the backlash; Breadwinners doesn't seem to care or listen.

TL;DR Breadwinners fails to engage adults and kids so it fails, they forgot that "bread + ducks = No-no", and it has 2.5 on iMDB when the bottom 100 has <2.6, and the people making it don't care about their feedback.
Aldo930
08:36:44 AM Jul 6th 2014
And Scooby-Doo shows a dog eating things that could very well kill it. So does practically every funny-animal cartoon EVER. This is moronic. Most Funny Animal cartoons have the characters eating normal human foods.

Oh, and lookadis: http://www.cynopsis.com/052814-baby-genius-gets-todd-goldman-makeover-kidz-bop-block-breadwinners-creators-recipe-success/
epicmario43
05:15:35 PM Jul 9th 2014
edited by 71.217.124.235
So i guess you're going to try to defend it; while a critic may claim to like it and say that the cartoon is #1 in four weeks, you should notice this little clip of writing from your link: "Breadwinners seemed to happen almost overnight for us. We made the short over the span of a couple months, put it online, and there was an instant positive response. Within a couple of months we were developing the show at Nickelodeon, and within six months moving into full production on the first season." Note that the short was made in a couple of months to entertain other animators and features some pretty bad animation, terrible butt jokes, and irritating music. And unlike when Nickelodeon gave Fred a show (then the #1 show on youtube), the original cartoon short did not even get 150k views. Yes, Nick really is that incompetent in noticing things like that. Also, backlash by the fans is much more powerful then critics' opinions; fans of TotalBiscuit made two teams of developers back off from claiming copyright on his videos sharply criticizing their games (The War Z and Guise of the Wolf) and deleting his entire channel.

While i can't make you not keep defending it, i'd like to help tell you why i think that this is a bad show and why it should go here. We all have different opinions, and i can accept that.
Aldo930
06:43:28 PM Jul 9th 2014
edited by 68.229.67.152
I went to Ask The Tropers and asked whether it should be here. The response was no. I added something to the page saying that it is not eligible to be on this page.

That is that. It won't end up on this page unless the show ends ignominiously.
guardianemessiah
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10:38:20 AM Feb 18th 2014
edited by 66.210.134.2
Would a dropped pilot for "The Groovenians" qualify? It has some of the worst CGI to exist (it was made in 2002, for those of you wondering), surreal imagery, a heavy-handed moral on artistic vision and whatnot (specifically one moral that says anyone who is not an artist is a horrible person because they only care about money and making your life miserable and boring), unlikeable characters (except for the villain who actually comes up with legitimate points) and it makes you wonder if everyone who worked on it was on drugs. By the way, it was created by Kenny Scharf, a surreal artist, and had the voice talents of Paul Reubens and the late Dennis Hopper. The Mysterious Mr. Enter and Hewy Toonmore have declared it to be the worst thing they ever watched. (At least in the latter's case.)
Aldo930
04:55:03 PM Feb 20th 2014
Please see the below post by romanatorX. It was nominated for an Annie Award, which rules it out.
guardianemessiah
05:48:16 PM Feb 20th 2014
Never mind, then. Carry on.
SuperSaiyaMan
05:43:22 PM May 8th 2014
It didn't WIN the Annie Award, did it? Not only that, anyone can nominate for awards.
supernintendo128
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02:22:29 PM Jan 17th 2014
edited by 99.56.73.89
I propose the Bubsy cartoon pilot. Lets see... There's the unlikeable characters, the ear-grating voice acting and sound effects, the over-usage of Stock Footage, the unfunny jokes and the mean spirited running gag of Arnold the Armadillo's fear of getting run over by a truck.
FromtheWordsofBR
04:36:10 PM Mar 24th 2014
edited by 75.161.177.110
I guess we could place it here. If it's going to go on here, I've already came up with an entry.

EDIT: Holy crap, it was already on here!!!!
plcthecd
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02:59:01 AM Dec 25th 2013
MilknPopcorn
06:27:53 PM Dec 25th 2013
edited by 124.148.34.18
I found the footage he showed hilarious and in my opinion, it looks So Bad, it's Good. Though I'd expect it to show up on both lists to be honest.
warner14
12:52:57 AM Dec 26th 2013
edited by 58.165.162.206
Just because you liked it, doesn't mean anyone else agrees with you. The film has a 2.3/10 on IMDB in case you're wondering.
Idisagree
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07:10:21 PM Nov 15th 2013
Does Titanic: The Legend Goes On really belong here? I mean most people find the other Titanic Animated movie worse and that one doesn't qualify either. Both are firmly in So Bad, It's Good territory and then there's the Rapping Dog. Hatedom alone isn't a reason to list something otherwise we'd have Johnny Test and Family Guy (which doesn't belong here by any means) on here.
Sammettik
02:34:40 PM Nov 28th 2013
edited by 99.26.124.254
I don't think either movie qualifies, but I held off on removing Titanic: The Legend Goes On because I couldn't think of a convincing enough reason and the reason I used for The Legend of the Titanic wouldn't work. (The Legend of the Titanic was a success while Titanic: The Legend Goes On was a flop.)

We can all agree that they're both BAD movies, why do people insist on arguing which is worse?
Idisagree
07:06:01 PM Nov 30th 2013
I don't care which one is worse, I just think people shouldn't just add things they don't like but are So Bad, It's Good. Hatedom doesn't equal horrible enough and that's a general rule
Sammettik
12:57:01 PM Dec 2nd 2013
edited by 68.4.82.242
Wait a sec.. are we talking about the "uncut" version of the movie or the "edited" version?

Originally the "edited" version was listed here along with The Legend of the Titanic, A troper pulled it claiming that being historically innacurate and/or getting trashed by Doug Walker isn't enough to call it "horrible", and I did the same with The Legend of the Titanic as well as pointing out the film's strong sales in Italy.

The issue here is that, while I don't think the "uncut" version is that bad either, it has more "strikes" against it that make it harder to defend.
Aldo930
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01:49:31 PM Nov 12th 2013
edited by 68.229.67.152
Would somebody please update the entry for the cartoon "Bad Dog" and explain WHY it's so bad? There's no description as to why it's terrible - nothing about the show's comedy, animation, characters, etc.?

Not me, though. I watched the show and found it average. Kind of funny, but not the best.
FromtheWordsofBR
02:30:55 PM Nov 18th 2013
I have to agree. If there's literally NOTHING describing how bad the show is, as well as you thinking it's just So Okay, It's Average, then we might as well just nix it.
Aldo930
06:07:34 PM Nov 21st 2013
It's been deleted. If anyone who does hate the show can give a good reason as to why it was awful, they can put it back up. For now, though...
Furian1996
02:01:04 PM Dec 17th 2013
Let's try coming up with something together.
Aldo930
11:04:00 AM Dec 27th 2013
Were you the guy who originally added the entry?

If not, did you see the show and why did you think it was bad?
Sera235
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07:02:38 PM Oct 3rd 2013
what about canadian animations like caillou(the kid with bipolar disoder)camp lakebottom(a knockoff of gravity falls)almost naked animals and scardy squirrels(BOTH a ripoff of spongebob squarepants)and johnny test?! 90% of the shows are flash animation!but what about handrawn animations? the only shows that i like is TDI,6teen and stoked.
FromtheWordsofBR
02:35:36 PM Oct 16th 2013
I don't like those shows, either (I especially agree with the statement about Camp Lakebottom, but they actually get some fairly decent reviews from critics (Almost Naked Animals especially, surprisingly enough). And for Caillou, parents either Love It or Hate It. So they (sadly...) don't qualify for this page.
Sera235
07:05:42 PM Oct 18th 2013
damn it! why these people love it even when there COPYING and mimicing shows and yet nobody seems to care!
RobbieRotten
12:08:09 PM Oct 29th 2013
Why do people like things you don't? One of life's greatest mysteries.
Idisagree
07:14:47 PM Nov 15th 2013
Same reason people like Dance Pop, because a lot of mediocre stuff gets popular and Hatedom can't stop that. Just because you hate something doesn't mean it deserves to be here. Johnny Test is also So Bad, It's Good and a Guilty Pleasure for many.
Buscemi
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11:27:38 PM Sep 20th 2013
I don't think that the 1966 Hobbit should be on here. The IMDb rating is a 5.7 and the few reviews available are more mixed than negative.

Also, the entry doesn't seem to cite any sources.
warner14
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10:37:38 PM Sep 20th 2013
edited by 58.165.205.139
I nominate the Miramax cut of the The Thief and the Cobbler, Arabian Knight.

It has horrible jarring animation, unnecessary voiceovers that consist of annoying inner monologues and narration explaining things we can already see, dull and generic Award Bait Songs that do nothing but pad the running time, and the most damning of all, ruining the film that Richard Williams (who had started the project in 1964) had spent over 25 years working on and making it as good as he could, only to have it taken away and butchered to death, looking NOTHING like what he intended. The film rates 40% on Rotten Tomatoes and you can view it here if you dare. The Nostalgia Critic has tackled it here.
Buscemi
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08:56:24 PM Jul 26th 2013
Dino Time shouldn't be on here for the sole reason that the entry doesn't explain that it's bad but that it was simply never released. Also, the entry is more of a rant that anything.
plcthecd
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06:23:29 PM Jun 26th 2013
Even though Happily Never After got negative reviews in the box office, there are some few fans who liked it. But how about its sequel?
MikuruFan
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09:39:23 PM Jun 6th 2013
edited by 69.172.221.4
Food Fight doesn't belong here. The description is unconvincing and its YMMV page says it's either So Bad, It's Good, So Okay, It's Average, or just bad. Being just bad doesn't qualify a work as being So Bad It's Horrible.

Also, in this forum there was opposition to putting the movie on the So Bad It's Horrible page.
warner14
02:34:22 AM Apr 12th 2014
The movie has a 2.7/10 on IMDB. Also, we should try and get someone to make a more fitting description for the film if we were to pit it up here.
MrMediaGuy
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04:19:11 PM Mar 22nd 2013
Can we add Legend of Kung Fu Rabbit? It has a 3.1 rating on IMDb.
MrMediaGuy
06:37:16 PM Mar 22nd 2013
Never mind. Maybe it belongs under Eastern Animation.
FromtheWordsofBR
11:07:26 AM Aug 14th 2013
FUN FACT: That movie actually stars Rebecca Black. Yes, THAT Rebecca Black.
plcthecd
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05:54:22 PM Mar 21st 2013
I like to nominate the 1999 animated version of The King and I. It has 13% rating at Rotten Tomatoes and 3.4 at IMDB.
plcthecd
05:55:49 PM Mar 21st 2013
IF that's not enough to convince anyone, here's something according to the IMDB's Trivia:

"In response to the overwhelmingly negative reviews, the estates of Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein have declared that there are to be no more animated features based on their musicals."
Idisagree
05:02:19 PM Apr 10th 2013
Sounds like a good example.
Furienna
03:37:18 PM Apr 19th 2014
Despite it having a huge hatedom, I have to defend that movie. Most of the characters are likable, and I enjoyed the sub-plot about the crown prince and his love for a commoner girl.
Twentington
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02:10:54 PM Feb 1st 2013
I removed Redakai since it has a 7.6 on TV.com, which would suggest that at least some people like it.
Midna
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08:37:22 PM Jan 17th 2013
edited by Midna
Removing "Pretty Pretty Ponies". It's an amateur work, of course it's going to look and sound amateurish. It's unfair to judge something not made by a professional by professional standards, but moreover, just watching thirty seconds of it was enough to convince me it'd probably be a better fit on So Bad, It's Good.
Buscemi
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07:27:37 PM Jan 15th 2013
Is Brickleberry safe to include here? Reviews were awful, the premise is unoriginal and the show's claim to fame is that Daniel Tosh hacked Google to promote it (the show also only got picked up because he was attached to it).
dakinebrah
07:29:06 PM Jan 15th 2013
No. Unless all of the internet is calling for Tosh's head on a platter.
RobbieRotten
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06:03:40 PM Dec 1st 2012
does Eight Crazy Nights. really qualify? the film has a quite a few non-ironic fans like this guy. heck, even i find the 2nd haLF at least to be ...okay.
Idisagree
07:16:05 PM Dec 15th 2012
I watched it once when I was younger and found the second half to be bad. However I enjoyed the first half so I'd say no. I'd put it in between Jack and Jill (which I'd get banned for defending) and Going Overboard (which really is a horrible excuse for a comedy) in terms of Adam Sandler. I say tha as a fan.
romanatorX
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10:27:09 AM Dec 1st 2012
Now that i Think about it.... would the Pinky and the Brain retool Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain count? The show was so bad, the concept was abandoned after 5 episodes. Virtually NOBODY seems to like this show at all. No DV Ds exist of the show at all. I personally argue that it fits the criteria to be put here.
dakinebrah
07:29:18 PM Jan 15th 2013
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
SamMax
01:57:16 PM Jan 20th 2013
That...really depends on whether we should count it as part of the old show, or consider it a separate entity (most view it as the latter). All I can say is to look to others for advice.
linuxfan66
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01:44:23 AM Sep 11th 2012
Does anyway have positive opinions of the original space chimps? i will admit to liking the original film. I bought the sequal like two years ago and its dvd rack...which i will probably never watch now
moomoothecow1
07:13:08 PM Nov 19th 2012
Can you reword that?
SamMax
02:01:47 PM Jan 20th 2013
edited by SamMax
If I'm getting this correctly, linuxfan66 says that he actually liked the first Space Chimps, but he would like to forget that a sequel ever came to existence.

As for my own opinions, I've never seen either film, but the first film was apparently successful enough to warrant a second film, so unless it's a bizarre case, I say the first doesn't belong here, at the very least.
flashsucks
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11:59:37 AM Sep 9th 2012
I'm considering adding Happily n'Ever After to this list. The movie has a 4.2 on imdb, got torn apart by infamous animation, and could be called generic and mediocre if one is being generous. A fractured fairy tale set up with bored celebrity performances, an unimaginative premise and setting (which is called fairy tale land of all things), cliched humour seen in better dreamworks movies, and stiff and bland animation. It even has a sequel which is even worse. Does it qualify? It just seems to be a lazy, lazy effort not really worthy of any respect.
thomwim
08:53:53 AM Oct 3rd 2012
I, for one, found it So Okay, It's Average. It's the sequel I found horrible, except the credit song.
Tehrannotaur
04:28:30 PM Nov 28th 2013
It has a 4% rating on rotten tomatoes and a 28/100 on Metacritic, so it definitely may as well be put on the list.
StopMentioningYourself
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11:18:32 AM Aug 24th 2012
"...the writing is completely juvenile and insulting."

Said about something called "My Little Pony: Newborn Cuties". Don'tcha think it's sort of obviously for very little girls? I mean, yeah, this thing sucks (look at that "animation") but come on.
moomoothecow1
07:12:48 PM Nov 19th 2012
That specific part, I think should be removed, but the entry itself should stay.
romanatorX
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12:36:19 PM Jul 9th 2012
edited by romanatorX
May I add The Groovenians to the list? I know of only a few reviews of this, two by sort-of Caustic Critics (Hewy Toonmore from Mr. Coat And Friends and Chris Moore from TV Trash), and three from average people on IMDB, but an overwhelming majority of them did a good job of showing why it sucks. The animation is cheap (Bad, obvious CGI), nothing makes sense, the villian is a Designated Villain, the other characters are one dimensional, the show drops it's Family-Unfriendly Aesop (doing stuff for money and paying taxes is bad, and artists should not be forced to accept responsibility) with the intensity of a nuclear explosion, there are plot holes the size of Canada, and the songs are considered awful. It's also telling that it lasted only one episode, aired twice on [adult swim], before it was canned.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
10:46:44 PM Jul 9th 2012
It sounds like it's worth a consider...
romanatorX
11:03:04 AM Aug 3rd 2012
edited by romanatorX
I'm not adding it to the list YET, because there is no official consensus, and it WAS nominated for an annie "Outstanding Achievement in an Animated Short Subject". But, here is what I would put down if it WAS accepted.

  • The Groovenians, created by artist Kenny Scharf, who is known for putting pop culture icons into surreal settings, and who has a cast consisting of veteran voice actors such as Paul Reubens and Dennis Hopper. The plot is that two protagonists go from a boring planet to a bohemian planet called Groovenia. This should have been good, right? Well, viewers were treated to the one dimensional Mary Sue protagonists whining about the fact that they have responsibility, plot holes (when everything goes wrong, the normal planet turns into surreal nightmare fuel, among others), cheesy CGI, Dennis Hopper's characters SCREAM Designated Villain (Hopper's characters state the oh-so-horrifying lesson that you have to be responsible before you can be free), ANOTHER hard-hitting lesson (money is bad, and artists should not accept responsibility) and godawful songs. It lasted one episode, aired twice on Cartoon Network, and was forgotten.... until it was mocked on both Hewys Animated Movie Reviews and TV Trash.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
11:20:33 PM Aug 10th 2012
edited by AnonymousMcCartneyfan
I think the annie nomination rules it out, assuming that's a comittee nominating. That's a "Best of" award!

ETA: Also, short subjects aren't supposed to have more than one episode. This was a one-shot.
RobbieRotten
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08:30:45 AM May 21st 2012
Is Hoodinked Too (2) eligible? I was going to add it myself, but i want to discuss here it first. it bombed at the box office, critics hated it, and it bombed on DVD. if allowed to add it, i will provice in depth reasons for it being horrible, such as a incredible cliched lame plot, and non existent characters, and of course lame jokes.
SamMax
07:25:38 PM Jun 23rd 2012
edited by SamMax
I never saw the film, but the Box Office failing part may have had something to do with the lack of advertising, meaning barely anyone knew it even existed. I may be wrong, though, but this is one of the few times I've even heard of it going to DVD, let alone theaters.
Idisagree
10:22:28 PM Jun 30th 2012
Actually I remember the ads so there wasn't a lack of advertising but I haven't seen it since it looked lame. It did go to theaters. Just wanted to inform Sam Max.
Spinosegnosaurus77
09:31:13 AM Jul 4th 2012
Yup, definitely qualifies.
SamMax
12:48:56 PM Jul 30th 2012
edited by SamMax
Thank you, idisagree. I just didn't remember that many ads at all. Now that I think about it, perhaps I wasn't paying attention.

Back on topic, if it doesn't qualify here, I guess it at least qualifies for Sequelitis. I'll be right back after I see the reactions to be certain.
SamMax
01:35:35 PM Jul 30th 2012
edited by SamMax
I'm back! Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic seem to have low scores for both users and critics. However, it also has a 3 and a half Star Average, though I was uncertain of the time I had to do this, so I didn't read all of them, but it seem their kids enjoyed it while the parents were either mildly amused or angered at how bad it got Sequelitis. What do you think about may findings?
Spinosegnosaurus77
09:42:51 AM Aug 8th 2012
edited by Spinosegnosaurus77
If we're going to keep Daddy Day Camp in Film, we may as well add HT here.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
11:22:44 PM Aug 10th 2012
No! That sounds like more non-critic viewers liked it than not!
Spinosegnosaurus77
05:48:08 AM Sep 19th 2012
How do you figure? It has very low user scores, as mentioned above.
RobbieRotten
10:02:53 PM Jan 20th 2013
I think it qualifiers, seeing as no one liked it. that and it bombed in every possible way. If you choose to put it on, here's what i think it should say

"Hoodwinked Too: Hood Vs Evil. It takes Sequulitis to a whole new level. While the first film was original and funny, this movie is ...not. The story is practicality made of cliches, the characters are entirely one note, and the jokes are either pointless references to older movies, or Running Gags that were not even funny the first time. The animation is also really bad, and even worst than the first movie. The fact that was released in ''theaters' is baffling."

if you think this needs works, than go ahead, give me input
SamMax
01:31:43 PM Jan 23rd 2013
A good chunk of the amazon.com reviewers don't find it the worst. Doesn't that count for something of a fanbase, or at least a disqualification from this list?

And I apologize for the earlier post. Must not have been awake that day for it to have poor grammar. Amazon is also where the 3 1/2 average comes from. My apologies for not clarifying that earlier as well.
RobbieRotten
08:42:37 PM Jan 25th 2013
i don't know, quite a few SBIH films have their "fans" and this one doesn't have enough, i think the low RT (11 percent!) and IMDB scores make it more than qualified

it's also worthy of note that the film's co-wroter Cory edwards expressed disappointment with the final film,
romanatorX
topic
01:09:04 PM May 17th 2012
Just letting you know, if Allen Gregory fits here, we should add more on why the show fits here. Now, it's just a description on the show.
SamMax
topic
10:18:14 AM May 11th 2012
edited by SamMax
I found this, attempted to put it in its proper place, then realized I wasn't sure if it even fit. I also cleaned some spelling errors in this entry:
  • Crash Canyon has a 3.0 on IMBD, scrappy all around, no likeable or memorable characters, almost everything stolen from better Animation (like The Simpsons, Family Guy (even down to the cut-away gags), American Dad, The Cleveland Show, Glen Martin DDS, Kevin Spencer, etc.), and sadly, made by an ex-Simpsons writer.
EmmaWoodhouse18
topic
07:51:32 PM May 1st 2012
edited by EmmaWoodhouse18
Would My Little Pony G3.5 count? I've never met anyone who saw that who didn't want to claw their eyes out after, especially the Newborn Cuties, and every clip from it gets tons of thumbs-down on the Internet.
SamMax
10:20:01 AM May 11th 2012
edited by SamMax
I don't know... the page proper says that both G3 and G3.5 have their fans. I've never seen either for myself, but if that's what it says, it would imply that they're vocal enough for it not to qualify.
BrendanDRizzo
topic
02:17:22 PM Apr 20th 2012
I removed this, because the Battletoads cartoon is really more of So Bad, It's Good than So Bad, It's Horrible:

The Battletoads cartoon thankfully never made it past the pilot, for many reason: ◦ The animation is so absurdly limited as to be downright painful. When and if the characters move in any way that doesn't make them look like puppets with half the strings gone, they don't so much walk as slide across the ground. ◦ The dialogue takes Totally Radical to asinine levels: characters are non-ironically trying to use catchphrases like "psychotronic". ◦ The story is so distant and detached from the game as to be the plot to a completely different series specifically The Last Starfighter, from which they stole several plot points wholesale. ◦ The characters' designs are also changed in bizarre ways, and the writing is such that no one at all is the least bit sympathetic. The three toads are now three teenage losers from an Insignificant Little Blue Planet, and from start to finish come off as brain-dead morons even though one of them*

is canonically described as a Genius Bruiser not that the writers cared. They're not even the kind of brain-dead assholes you can get behind; they have no human pathos. Their mentor Professor T. Bird, a cool snarky dude in the games, becomes a bumbling idiot who seems like he has to wear diapers. The Dark Queen was the only character to escape Character Derailment, keeping the Alpha Bitch From Space persona she had in the games.

SamMax
11:25:47 AM Apr 23rd 2012
Did you check to see if anyone else agrees with you? If not, you might want to. I will too if I'm not too busy.
Bluesunnyday
topic
04:39:33 PM Mar 26th 2012
Who removed Da Nutshack? I tried to watch the annotated series, and I couldn't get through it. It was literally PAINFUL.
plcthecd
topic
10:40:02 PM Mar 22nd 2012
Is Allen Gregory qualifies as SBIH?

Or what about the Goode Family?
MattFisherNL
10:19:22 AM May 17th 2012
I read That Other Wiki and found out that The Goode Family actually received rather mixed reviews, so it wouldn't appropriately qualify as being horrible. But it may well be the worst thing Mike Judge ever lent his name to. I do, however, believe Allen Gregory qualifies as SBIH, and I've seen some episodes, and neither of them were any good. The pilot episode drew especially negative reviews. I just added Allen Gregory to this, and it's that bad.
KingLyger
topic
03:03:18 AM Mar 22nd 2012
After re-watching the "Felix the Cat" movie, I've considered putting it on this list. Any objections? I know this is treading thin ice since the Nostalgia Critic reviewed it not too long ago.
SomeNewGuy
07:02:33 AM Mar 22nd 2012
edited by SomeNewGuy
I dunno...I mean, yeah it's pretty low-par on today's standards, but I found it entertaining when I first saw it as a kid. This may just be nostalgia talking, though.
arcadiarika
topic
09:23:06 AM Mar 3rd 2012
edited by arcadiarika
I've noticed that, for quite some time, some of the Internet reviewers' reviews of certain shows have been removed for no reason other than "don't put reviews of any reviewer on there", or something to that effect. And it has happened before, on a few other So Bad, It's Horrible subpages (Film and Asian Animation). Recently, here, someone removed the reviews for Lazer Tag Academy, The Legend of the Titanic, and ProStars.

I know that a general rule of thumb of placing Internet reviewers' reviews is that they're only added when actual critics review the work. So what's the reason for those reviews getting removed, and is it vandalism when there's no reason?
Videogamer07
09:57:20 AM Mar 3rd 2012
I don't think there was an official ruling by the mods that you can't link reviewers in SBIH pages; I think ThirtyH (the troper that removed them) was just sick of seeing links to reviewers on these pages, and set out to delete them. Unfortunately, he should've asked a mod for permission first, since he got banned for it.
RhymeBeat
10:26:49 AM Mar 3rd 2012
Yeah. They ruled against Thirty H. Put the links back.
arcadiarika
05:47:47 PM Mar 3rd 2012
Done.
aladdin99
topic
03:52:44 AM Dec 26th 2011
edited by aladdin99
About "Doozy bots", if there is another reason why is sucks OTHER than the fact it's a poor adaption of MSG than you have to state it. None of that "trust me" crap.
SamMax
10:39:58 AM Jan 25th 2012
edited by SamMax
I think I saw this under So Bad, It's Good once...

I agree with the people who say that Adaptation Decay isn't enough to qualify as So Bad, It's Horrible. Sometimes an adaptation can be good on its own merits. If you put this back, put it in for reasons Other than "WAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!! LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO GUNDAM!!!!!!! Ruined Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
SamMax
05:43:30 AM Feb 6th 2012
edited by SamMax
Someone put it back. I removed it again and put up an edit reason stating why. I just hope they follow it.

EDIT: And then someone removed the edit reason. Though I suppose in this case, I typed it wrong. Still getting used to being here. Put it up again with different typing. Hope it helps.
Freezer
10:55:06 AM Feb 7th 2012
I didn't removed it because it was typed wrong. I removed it because it belongs here, not on the main page. There, it's natter, even if it only shows up as source code.
SamMax
09:14:32 AM Feb 8th 2012
edited by SamMax
Oops. Sorry about the Natter. I didn't mean to break the rules. I thought it was needed because someone added The Doozy Bots back without looking here.
GracieLizzie
03:57:26 AM Apr 9th 2012
I wish whoever put that up hadn't used the term cripple. I dunno if they are trying to just be ludicrous or if they are actually trying to be offensive.

Anyway, I think it deserves to be up. Aside from the adaption decay it's more "offensive due to this is what the Japanese think with make Gundam take off in the west - cliche storm + the Burger King Kids Club as main characters" it got rejected by all the stations they shopped around for broadcast on presumably due to it's trite stereotyping.

Also, the wheelchair user turning into a form with tank treads = erm think that one through much Sunrise?

It's just a smorgasboard of Sunrise trying to distill what they saw as Saturday Morning cartoons as being like by distilling the general feel of said shows of the era into a ridiculous cliched mess and then throwing chibi-Woody Allen and Gary Coleman in there because. Hey, that's American right? Even taking out that this is Gundam it sucks but the only reason gets much attention is because it is based on Gundam. It might have gotten a few shares as "Sunrise tries to do a Saturday morning cartoon and fails" if the mecha had not being Mobile Suits but something generic but it being Gundam adds extra "spice" to the fail pile.
SamMax
11:22:12 AM Apr 17th 2012
edited by SamMax
Offensiveness and being a Follow the Leader Cliché Storm show are not enough, otherwise we would have seen a lot more of those here than we do now, and the ones that are here had other reasons for belonging. Of course, I may be missing the point of your statement.
anoni
topic
03:07:41 PM Aug 29th 2011
Is ProStars viable for So Bad It's Horrible?
SamMax
03:56:51 AM Oct 22nd 2011
That depends: Does it have a vocal fanbase to speak of?
Masterge77
05:15:23 AM Nov 4th 2011
Definitely not, even Linkara admits that it's bad, this coming from a comic book reviewer.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
10:34:32 PM Nov 19th 2011
edited by AnonymousMcCartneyfan
I consider it possible that show was Horrible. I did see that one when it came out, but didn't enjoy it much. Don't remember much, either...

It didn't last more than one season, which probably is just as well, considering the real Bo Jackson's careers didn't last much longer. Football is just too dangerous to do part-time.

It definitely wasn't a good cartoon, though I can't be confident on how bad. It might just be on the low end of So Okay, It's Average. However, Jordan and Gretzky have been out there with true independent fandoms for some time, abd so this show is a candidate for this page; otherwise fans of one or the other of them would be doing more to make this known or defend it.

plcthecd
topic
02:53:31 AM Aug 13th 2011
Can we please add DA Boom Crew back on? There's a reason why this show isn't well known.
miru
topic
05:45:25 PM Jun 29th 2011
Can we add Space Chimps 2: Zartog Strikes Back? It got a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.
nuclearneo577
08:22:37 PM Jun 29th 2011
Wait, that crap got a sequel? It's probably bad enough if it's at least half a year old and has 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. Go ahead.
nuclearneo577
topic
04:46:52 PM Jun 25th 2011
I'm pretty sure the main page was cut by mistake.
plcthecd
topic
02:57:46 PM May 20th 2011
C An we please add The Problem Solverz there? It's already hated by everyone and I already added it but it was removed for some reason.
miru
11:46:46 AM May 26th 2011
It is still running for some odd reason.
SoWeAteThem
11:44:26 PM May 27th 2011
Because it doesn't qualify.
nuclearneo577
12:07:18 AM May 28th 2011
It's no where as bad as anything else listed here.
SamMax
03:51:14 AM Oct 22nd 2011
Again, are you just sore about this "replacing" Sym-Bionic Titan? See Screwed by the Network for details. And again, I thought that Sugar Wiki said that this Needs More Love. Though I'm not sure that disqualifies it...
tonagamu
topic
11:27:30 PM May 17th 2011
Why were the animated Titanic movies removed?
nuclearneo577
07:29:18 AM May 18th 2011
edited by nuclearneo577
Due to being So Bad, It's Good.
prototypeB
10:51:59 AM May 18th 2011
The Legend of the Titanic is So Bad It's Horrible though. The one with the rapping dog is So Bad It's Good.
nuclearneo577
07:17:08 AM May 19th 2011
Has The Legend of the Titanic ever been on this page? I thought it was the one with the rapping dog.
SoWeAteThem
11:49:43 PM May 27th 2011
edited by SoWeAteThem
Yeah, but I don't think it was explained properly. I hadn't seen any footage of it at the time and, looking at the entries, they weren't well described. I had come to the conclusion that they were only posted because The Nostalgia Critic reviewed them, but if someone can make a better case for it, then put it up. It seems to have enough egregious offenses, but I'm not sure
SoWeAteThem
01:58:18 PM May 28th 2011
O Kay, here's what I got this far. I'll be editing this draft periodically: The Legend of the Titanic (not to be confused with Titanic: The Legend Goes On, which was funny by mistake) is practically everything bad about '90s-era children's cartoons. Beyond its shoddy animation, poor voicing, and painfully slow pacing, it insists on pandering to children (to the point where an octopus has a dog's face because, As You Know, children are incapable of grasping the concept of an ugly protagonist) Plot Holes to moor a ship in are abound, there are countless moments where the mood is completely uncertain, confusing and downright offensive Disney Deaths, and, as the final insult, downplays the tragedy of the Titanic like no tomorrow.
ZetaArak
02:20:07 AM Jul 11th 2012
Someone removed Legend of Titanic on the basis that its sales were good in its home country, which I think is poor reason to remove it since its childrens film and they except anything.
Sammettik
04:42:47 AM Jul 29th 2012
I have the feeling I'm going to start a flame/edit war with this, but...

1. I removed it because it did not fulfill the criteria set by the of "failure to appeal to any niche" It doesn't belong on here for the same reason The Magic Voyage doesn't belong: it had a niche and it appealed to it. I admit, it's a stupid and fairly offensive movie, but it's still funny in some ways. 2. No offense Mr. Zeta, but "Children will accept anything" is an incredibly weak counterargument. 3. It's already been on the So Bad, It's Good page long before it was added here. 4. It and the other animated titanic movie, believe it or not, seem to have some sort of Fandom Rivalry and both movies have been occasionally added and removed from this section.
Sammettik
11:56:53 AM Jul 29th 2012
Addendum: Having read the entry and watched the movie again it seems the guy who added it in the first place didn't actually watch the movie himself and just wrote what he gathered from the NC review, (Something that sadly happens all too often in the SBIH pages...)
anoni
topic
01:07:51 PM Apr 26th 2011
why doesn't the problem solverz count?

i'm sorry, I'm not very familiar with this sorta thing.
nuclearneo577
07:14:28 PM Apr 27th 2011
How does it qualify?
anoni
08:44:18 PM Apr 27th 2011
someone said something about a discussion with super saiya man that it doesn't count

nuclearneo577
08:57:48 PM Apr 27th 2011
Okay, 1. Every entry made by Super Saiya Man has been deleted, and 2. how is it that bad?
CountSpatula
07:17:32 PM May 4th 2011
I think it was decided in an earlier topic not to list shows that were still in production.

Once it gets canceled, then feel free to put it back in here.
nuclearneo577
10:03:40 AM May 8th 2011
No, we are not going to add it back beacuse its not bad enough to qualify.
plcthecd
07:28:02 PM May 20th 2011
^ Are you kidding? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHyB1kRDNc&feature=related Just look at how many dislikes there are in Youtube. Plus, Rush Zone: Guardians of the Core was added on despite still showing.
SoWeAteThem
11:44:39 PM May 27th 2011
Dude, Friday gets even more hate than that, and every attempt to get it on Horrible.Music was shot down in ''minutes." Besides, I'm pretty sure that proposal was promptly ignored.
SamMax
03:41:11 AM Oct 22nd 2011
edited by SamMax
To add to this, doesn't Sugar Wiki say something about Problem Solverz needing more love? I wonder if the guy who asked this is just sore about this "replacing" Sym-Bionic Titan (which is untrue, see Screwed by the Network for more details).
nuclearneo
topic
10:28:50 AM Mar 9th 2011
edited by nuclearneo
I'm calling bullshit on this.

  • Despite relatively decent ratings, the cartoon Squirrel Boy seems to be considered this to many people. If fact, the Hatedom helped lead to its eventual cancellation.

"relatively decent ratings" is more than enough to make is Not an Example, but "seems to be considered this to many people" just makes even less of an example.
nuclearneo577
topic
02:27:56 AM Feb 19th 2011
Regarding this.

  • The original Secret Of Nimh was a classic, well recieved animated feature from Don Bluth that boldly tried to break out of the Animation Age Ghetto with it's lush art direction, surprisingly mature story, and excellent characterization. The Secret of NIMH II, on the other hand, suddenly did a total 180, and crashed the series head-on into the ghetto. And to say it sucked would be a compliment. The animation was atrocious—stiff, limited animation peppered with mediocre drawings and garishly colored backgrounds that don't even remotely capture the lush art of the first film. The story completely went against the first film, throwing out the mature story for a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy that can be seen coming from a mile away, and in general the story is a total Cliché Storm. The characters from the first film are completely derailed in personality and have the Idiot Ball stiched to them. The acting is so bland and forced that you wonder if they're even trying. The songs absolutely stink and only serve to shamelessly cash in on the Disney musical craze of the 90's (even though the first film was clearly an Anti-Disney film). In general, the whole film completely goes against what made the original such a classic, and is one of the most infamous examples of Sequelitis outside of the Land Before Time franchise.

What was that about again?
Midna
09:10:40 PM Apr 8th 2011
The sequel to The Secret of Ni MH. It's a toss-up as to whether it belongs here or on the Sequelitis page, though.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
02:02:21 PM Apr 13th 2011
List it under Sequelitis for now. Whether it belongs here or not, it belongs there.
Idisagree
08:36:18 PM Sep 28th 2012
Truth is the Nostalgia Critic said it wasn't even the worst movie he reviewed that month (To be fair, he also reviewed The NeverEnding Story [[Horrible/Film 3]] that month). Also I have a different friend who considers it a Guilty Pleasure. I'd say that disqualifies it.
bloodydusknoir
topic
03:50:56 PM Feb 6th 2011
Why is the link to the Hammerman theme song sung by Microsoft Sam under the post about Freaky Flickers: the Movie?
Glowsquid
03:56:14 PM Feb 6th 2011
Someone removed the entry for Hammerman (presumably because our page on it says it's not that bad) but forgot to remove the sub-point. I'll delete it.
Midna
topic
10:25:45 AM Jan 2nd 2011
edited by Midna
I'm not going to cut it just yet, but does The Wacky World of Tex Avery really belong here? As far as I know, it was a kids' show, and kids will watch pretty much anything you put in front of them. Besides that, its entry has all the markings of Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, particularly the "it doesn't have even one funny joke!" bit - humor is subjective, after all.
Glowsquid
11:12:59 AM Jan 2nd 2011
edited by Glowsquid
" As far as I know, it was a kids' show,"

Thanks to the Animation Age Gheto, pretty much everything on the page except that Nutshack abomination and CAD Animated are "kid's show". Doesn't mean there's isn't a gigantic difference in quality between them and, say, Avatar.

"humor is subjective, after all."

As is writing quality, animation, voice acting and every other criteria used to judge quality - and so is the overall quality itself, infact.

RhymeBeat
11:15:00 AM Jan 2nd 2011
For a more standard example compare the show to Phineas and Ferb. That's how you do a two shorts comedy show.
141.156.38.59
10:16:25 PM Feb 10th 2011
It won't help Wacky World of Tex Avery much; Wacky World was a three shorts show.
Midna
09:12:02 PM Apr 8th 2011
Platypus Comix did a review of Wacky World for Toon Zone recently, and while it didn't have good things to say about the entire show, it did at least say that "Power Pooch" was all right in its own respect. Should we at least mention that?
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
02:06:20 PM Apr 13th 2011
Yes, or at least modify the description. The current one claims there is not one funny joke in there; if even one of the series of shorts is tolerable, then that can't be right.
Webby
06:37:44 PM Aug 29th 2011
"kids will watch pretty much anything you put in front of them."

Because kids aren't, like, humans with brains or anything. I actually had the ability to form opinions on what I watched as a tyke, and this kind of talk always offended me.

Anyway, point is, that doesn't save something from being horrible. If it did, we'd have to move every children's show here to So Cool Its Awesome.
SamMax
03:35:19 AM Oct 22nd 2011
Agreed
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
topic
08:54:33 PM Nov 22nd 2010
Are we sure The Mighty Mr. Titan qualifies?

Put aside the subject matter for a moment. What kind of Horrible work has an Ensemble Darkhorse?
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
06:35:25 PM Dec 17th 2010
Cut this and put it here for now. An Ensemble Darkhorse, IIRC, is a character who is unexpectedly popular with the fanbase. Thus, you cannot have one without the other.

AnonymousMcCartneyfan
topic
08:51:46 PM Nov 22nd 2010
Wait — Mortal Kombat: the Adventure Begins has a segment in the film proper worth watching?!
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
09:40:35 PM Jan 4th 2011
Cut this and put it here for now. The film can't be horrible if it contains something truly worth watching — even if it's just a minute or two.

  • Mortal Kombat: The Journey Begins, which came out around the time the first live-action movie hit theaters. It was meant as some sort of prequel/retelling/sidestory of the video game and the movie...we think. Chances are, you're better off enjoying the Gorn of the video games, the impressive stuntwork and exciting techno of the live-action movie, or the laughable stupidity of the Saturday-morning cartoon series. This trainwreck had horrible, repetitive, and downright-ugly animation haphazardly set against conspicuous outdated CGI backgrounds. If you don't think you have it in you to stomach the entire thing, then this 10-minute sampler should be enough to give you an idea.
    • The behind-the-scenes look at the movie at the end is interesting, but it's not worth watching the whole tape for. In fact, the only part of the animated movie alone worth watching is the "Meet the Mortal Kombatants" segment, which starts at 2:38 in this video.
      • It's rather strange, considering that Jennifer freaking Hale voiced Sonya in it. Yes, that Jennifer Hale.
nuclearneo577
01:03:50 PM Jan 8th 2011
What? Kasumi Ninja has that funny Scottish guy and we dont remove that. Tattoo Assassins has that awesome death animation of the final boss and we dont remove that. Trespasser is now playable due to modding and its still there. One tiny reaming factor should not be enough to disqualify something.
Glowsquid
01:16:08 PM Jan 8th 2011
edited by Glowsquid
Infact, that's more of an attack than a defense. It basically says "Everything except this short segment is not worth watching at all".

But yeah, I agree with nuclearneo557 in that something really minor like "One scene was watchable", "one character was kind of cool" ect shouldn't be the sole defense for something - or at least not a redeeming quality.
nuclearneo577
06:29:39 PM Jan 8th 2011
Also, I watched the segment and discovered that its right before the credits. Its not really part of the film, just character profiles with the crappy animation. It should go back.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
05:59:04 PM Jan 10th 2011
Point taken. You may put it back then. Sorry...
miru
topic
07:37:24 PM Nov 21st 2010
Why is Hopla not here?
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
08:48:31 PM Nov 22nd 2010
It's listed in Periphery Hatedom, and it's run for 11 years. Thus, even if it is Horrible, it might be hard to confirm.
miru
12:15:00 PM Nov 24th 2010
SoWeAteThem
topic
11:25:49 PM Nov 3rd 2010
edited by SoWeAteThem
Hey, I'm going to contest Mr. Meaty. I don't remember it being that god-awful. Perhaps the collective does. As for research, I think I'll save that for when I don't really need rest...
UPDATE: IMDB gave it 5.2/10. That Other Wiki had this to say:
The TV series received a great deal of criticism from vegetarians and parents who did not like the gross-out humor. Many petitions were signed and sent to Nickelodeon to end the show. This may be a reason for its move to the Nicktoons Network and ultimately its short life. It is also the first show on Nickelodeon to utilize puppetry which many kids probably didn't appreciate as much as regular animation which could have also contributed to its short life.
As of 2010, the Nickelodeon site is still intact and working today and everything is left the same way as it was when it was on.
TV.com gave it 4.3/10.
Long story short: At worst, it's mediocre, but unremarkably so. It's not bad enough for here. I'm cutting it for now, but I'll put it here for good measure: Also, expunging So Bad, It's Horrible from Main/MrMeaty
nuclearneo577
07:39:59 PM Nov 13th 2010
Super Saiya Man has made several horrible enters before, all were not horrible. He thinks that this page is, you know.
134.48.244.62
topic
07:36:00 AM Oct 28th 2010
edited by dsneybuf
Glowsquid
12:46:37 PM Oct 28th 2010
It got defended two times by separate editors, though I think both instances were deleted in the page history removal.
94.2.160.19
topic
02:53:23 PM Oct 25th 2010
edited by OldManHoOh
I never understand if the consensus of animated films is that they're listed in Western Animation or Film. Is it supposed to be the latter (I can understand if the "animation studios" bit remains here though)?
Glowsquid
03:29:26 PM Oct 25th 2010
edited by Glowsquid
We don't have an "Animated Film" subpage (and I doubt it would be big enough to warrant its existance). The concensus is to list everything animated in Anime / Western Animation, from what I've seen.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
topic
01:41:48 PM Sep 13th 2010
Proposition: No listing shows that are still in production.

Early-Installment Weirdness and It Gets Better are known phenomena in TV series. Some series need time to find their final tone.

Also, So Bad, It's Horrible is supposed to cover the entirety of a work. We may make allowance for Missing Episodes; but we cannot and should not judge the entirety of a work that is ongoing.
TweedlyDee
topic
08:02:51 PM Sep 11th 2010
edited by TweedlyDee
Who removed Glenn Martin DDS? Did the reviews on TV.Com not prove that the show is in fact hated universally? And where is proof that the show is popular? If it has to be hated by every single person on the planet and not have any fans, THEN THIS PAGE WOULD BE EMPTY. Seltzerand Friedberg have fans yet they're still So Bad, It's Horrible. And where were you when they added Rush Zone: Guardians of The Core? I'm sure that show has fans. And that entry was even more personal and rage-filled than mine on Glenn Martin DDS. I (and whoever edited it into its current state) merely took aim its hideous characters, butt jokes, adoration by Viacom despite the Fan Backlash and cripplingly topical sense of humor. The Rush Zone entry isn't anywhere near as comprehensive.
nuclearneo577
04:09:51 PM Sep 14th 2010
I added it back. that guy was dumb.
TweedlyDee
07:21:31 PM Sep 14th 2010
[1], please. It's like you didn't look at the reviews at all before deleting it again. Just becase a few people like it doesn't mean it's good. Glenn Martin DDS is a triumphant example of the All Adult Animation Is South Park trope. Notice how most of the positive revews are from teens and tweens? And you notice how mst of the negative reviews are from adults? A Fleeting Demo Graphic is not a good sign of quality, people! Not to mention the people I know in real life who have watched it hated it. Sonikfan112, I may be going into Internet Cold Reader territory here, but I'd estiamte you're within the show's target age: 11-14. An age where shit and dick jokes are inherently funny and you don't care what you're watching. Lowest Common Denominator is not good, either. Tkae this into consideration.
Etheru
03:58:17 PM Sep 15th 2010
Check That Other Wiki, it may not be the most reliable source of information, but reception is mixed to positive.
nuclearneo577
04:06:31 PM Sep 15th 2010
It is? Carp, it cant go here. Oh well.
TweedlyDee
07:27:56 PM Sep 17th 2010
You guys notice how the positive reviews are full of ephemeral crap like "OMG This is so funny and inventive"? And you notice most of the positive reviews come from 'tweens?

That's all the positive reception it got. The show has not subtle jokes whatsoever. (A guy gets his head shoved up an Elephant's ass, The titular character has phone sex and the wiper fluid jets on his RV squirt at the height of the event, his kids brag about their Brother-Sister Incest.) Those easily fall into Dude, Not Funny! territory. And The Other Wiki isn't really that trustworthy.
Etheru
12:32:48 PM Sep 18th 2010
edited by Etheru
As I said, That Other Wiki isn't the most reliable source, but is the show universally hated?

And besides, is there another source besides TV.Com that you could use as proof the show is universally hated? Try official critic sites, try finding several official sources of hate for the show that isn't TV.Com, you will find a lot, but will you find fans of the show? Maybe.
67.223.208.204
07:52:33 PM Oct 5th 2010
Who are these people who like it? I can't find a single soul in Real Life who likes it, where is this invisible majority? -Tweedlydee
nuclearneo577
02:34:50 PM Oct 6th 2010
Read the Wikipedia article.
Etheru
10:17:28 PM Oct 8th 2010
edited by Etheru
He did, he says it's not that reliable, which it isn't, but isn't that what Citations are for? To show that the facts are true? To show it's not utter horseshit? To show that they did do their homework?

If it helps, I'm not a fan of the show, but it's because I don't watch it.

Also, if the humor is unsubtle and the jokes are so offensive, then wouldn't any other offensive show be on here? Or am I missing the point?

Just being offensive or unsubtle doesn't mean it warrants a spot.

I am going to leave this alone, if you please, but honestly, Glenn Martin DDS is only going to be removed every single time people try to put it back on, others may have better arguments than I do.
nuclearneo577
12:10:39 PM Oct 10th 2010
Yeah, I am just gonna leave it alone too.
OldManHoOh
topic
12:51:43 PM Sep 4th 2010
and that's saying something for being adapted from a webcomic that is already so unpopular that even its fans can no longer defend it.

I don't actually read the comic, but can someone back this bit about Ctrl-Alt-Del (the webcomic, not the animated show) up? It sounds like sheer creator bashing.

And what does it even mean?
Glowsquid
01:35:08 PM Sep 4th 2010
I think A Nonymous Mc Artney Fan re-worded that bit. I think it's really meant to say "Even the few CAD fans not banned on the forum won't defend it".
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
10:36:42 PM Sep 4th 2010
edited by AnonymousMcCartneyfan
Yes, I reworded that bit. Yes, that's what was originally meant (the iteration before I rewrote included a link to Lickspittle.) I figured that if they weren't defending it on its own forum, they weren't defending it off the forum either. They don't seem to be defending it here! On this very wiki, the Hatedom is far more visible than the fandom.

I am unsure how I bashed the creator, since I hadn't thought I mentioned him — in the sentence you quoted, it's the work that's unpopular. Buckley isn't CAD.

(ETA: Darn Life Embellished webcomics...)

Sorry.

OldManHoOh
11:00:28 AM Sep 7th 2010
Okay, I understand. Along the lines of "People who like to read it won't freely admit to it in public" then.
CabbitGirlEmi
topic
12:45:37 PM Sep 3rd 2010
edited by CabbitGirlEmi
Hey, who took off The Buzz on Maggie part in the page?! I put it there, because I thought it was pretty bad. Sure, Brian Doyle-Murray isn't that bad of a voice actor, but why'd they pick him to play her dad? What bugs me the most, no pun intended, is that Maggie almost never gets her way. That sucks.
Glowsquid
05:09:15 PM Sep 3rd 2010
It isn't about you. SBIH is (ideally) about things that everyyone agree sucks and no one likes. Wikipedia says the show was nominated for two awards, which pretty much disqualify it.
SamMax
03:26:33 AM Oct 22nd 2011
I second that. There are a lot of cartoons I don't like, but almost everyone else has to agree. If not, then it doesn't qualify. Just because you hate a show, do your research before going any further to see if everyone else shares your opinion.
168.19.21.13
topic
10:23:24 AM Aug 27th 2010
Removed this:
  • Drak Pack, the very nadir of Hanna-Barbera's output in the late 1970s. It was a desperately unfunny gag show about benevolent monsters which was made without a single ounce of imagination, creativity, or curiosity about what it might be like to be a monster.

The show has a rating of about 7 on IMDb, and the Wikipedia article paints a completely different picture, particularly with this bit: "The series had a lighthearted, somewhat satirical tone. The dialogue was rather sophisticated for a Saturday morning cartoon of its time, and made use of alliteration, rhyming, colorfully-turned phrases and pop culture references."
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
topic
07:14:40 PM Aug 18th 2010
Cut this and put it here for now. Its page claims it's So Bad, It's Good, and it ran for more than one season.

  • Legend of the Dragon was a mind-numbing attempt at Dragon Ball Z-esque anime fighting shows in America. It didn't work out. The plot was literally stock and by the numbers, even ripping off elements of both Dragon Ball Z and Jackie Chan Adventures (both vastly superior shows in every possible sense). The characters were all glaring non-entities. But the worst of the worst was the animation, which is almost impossible to describe without seeing it in "motion" (using the word loosely); the animation of Legend of the Dragon makes the animation of Aqua Teen Hunger Force look like Avatar. Besides being slow and choppy, it renders the characters almost immobile. Males are almost indistinguishable from females, save for their faces. The fight scenes, arguably the point of the show, are done in what is probably supposed to be bullet time or slow motion — but it looks as if it's being paused and unpaused rapidly in succession — clearly, someone didn't draw enough frames. It's almost unwatchable because of the bargain-basement animation. The story and non-action make it boring as Hell.
nuclearneo577
topic
06:30:35 PM Aug 18th 2010
Removed this for now.

  • Ren & Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon was the resurrection of Ren and Stimpy and an example of how some shows should stay dead. The original Ren & Stimpy was good, but was already taking everything Up to Eleven. The new hellspawn that crawled forth from Spike TV went much further. The show was made outright nauseating (which is something, given the original show), and the titular characters were made openly gay in a way that made nearly everyone squirm regardless of sexual orientation. Apparently, John K. was restrained (and eventually fired) for good reason.

It sounds horrible, but it has around a 7 on IMDB and TV.com.
prinzenick
08:09:46 AM Jan 16th 2011
Does not belong on the page. The show was actually well recieved in ratings and reception (but has gained a LARGE Hate Dom) and was only cancelled due to Schedule Slips. And on that note, the excessive Grossout stuff was the result of Spike meddling with the show and making John put, in his words, "unnecessary adult themes" into it.
nuclearneo577
08:24:53 PM Jan 16th 2011
Its been months since I removed this, so I assumed yes.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
topic
08:58:25 PM Aug 9th 2010
You know, it's kinda cruel to use a clip of a Horrible work as the sole reason for listing it. (I'm thinking of that Simon Bolivar film.)
nuclearneo577
06:19:16 PM Aug 18th 2010
The IMDB score is very low and the one review called it "pure canine excrement". I would watch it and explain more if it was in English.
nuclearneo577
topic
01:02:57 PM Aug 4th 2010
Id like to contset this:

  • Street Fighter Ride is a virtual reality program whose awfulness gives The Journey Begins a run for its money. Marginally better CG at the expense of some of the worst Adaptation Decay this side of Street Fighter the Movie. It's basically four minutes of Ryu and Ken flying around in hovercrafts as they hunt down M. Bison (who is 20 feet tall in this version for some reason) and pass by a few of the other characters in Street Fighter II fighting their own battles, but none of it appears to matter.

If that's not So Bad, It's Good taken Up to Eleven, nothing is.
Glowsquid
03:21:36 PM Aug 4th 2010
I very much agree but Anonymous Mc Artney's fan comment above and the comment on the videos seems to disagree. So whatever.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
09:42:00 PM Aug 8th 2010
Looks like I'm outnumbered... <grin>

94.9.179.3
topic
01:59:06 PM Jul 11th 2010
edited by 94.9.179.3
Hmm, tell me, did the Larriva Eleven have that zany Warner Bros. logo at the start, rather than the regular Looney Tunes circle?
174.17.122.202
01:36:57 AM Aug 13th 2010
Yes, they did. As said on the Looney Tunes page, if you see that logo with the technocolor minimalistic lines coming at you, and it's not animated by Chuck Jones, you will be looking at the series' Dork Age.
goodtimesfreegrog
topic
11:51:17 PM Jul 2nd 2010
Should we be listing Ctrl+Alt+Del: The Animated Series under Western Animation or Web Original? It's based on a webcomic after all, and it's only sold online on DVD...
Glowsquid
04:55:07 AM Jul 3rd 2010
edited by Glowsquid
I thought of that, but I don't know. It may be sold via Internet but it *isn't* actually avalaible (legally) on the Internet, up until recently you could only watch it by paying the DVDS.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
10:29:45 PM Jul 5th 2010
Then it goes here. And I am stunned by it.
Bass
01:07:28 AM Sep 24th 2010
The animation is an atrocity, but I don't think the voices for Ethan and Lucas were that bad.
Glowsquid
03:58:43 AM Sep 24th 2010
Not to turn this into an argument about CAD:The Animated, but while the voice acting certainly isn't Kreed-level of bad, the performances are quite overracted and phoned in. And beside, the show has many, mnay other problems than just the acting and animation...
Antwan
topic
04:22:41 AM Jun 23rd 2010
Okay, Street Fighter Ride is horrible, but since it's a virtual reality ride, shouldn't it be in Video Games? I just want to be sure here.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
04:02:58 PM Jun 25th 2010
Probably. There is a reason that Phoenix Games and Dingo Pictures have separate listings on their respective pages...
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
04:04:28 PM Jun 25th 2010
Wait. This is for Horrible/WebOriginal. We created that category for a reason.
Glowsquid
05:43:16 AM Jun 29th 2010
edited by Glowsquid
VR Rides don't have anything to do with the Internet, and it'd say it should stay here, as it's not interactive enough to count as a vidya gaem.

Personally, I find it So Bad, It's Good, but I seem pretty alone in that.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
09:30:33 PM Jan 31st 2011
It got moved to Video Games. (Not by me.)
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
topic
02:46:22 PM Jun 13th 2010
Could we please elaborate on da Nutshack?
Glowsquid
12:52:28 PM Jun 14th 2010
I'd say the intro is a good enough sampler... but, yeah.
Antwan
04:21:52 AM Jun 23rd 2010
I'm trying my damnedest to find more about it, but yeah...it's not a very popular show. If anybody can find more information, that would be great. (Probably for a good reason.)
Glowsquid
06:07:05 PM Jul 4th 2010
Okay, I did some resaerch, and for the health of my brain, I am not doing any more. If this thing is not a pure, uncontestable example of The Nutshack being the Most Triumphant Example of shit, well, be my guest.
Chickenzhit
01:00:29 PM Aug 23rd 2010
Hey there, I just want to elaborate about this entry. The first time I saw this cartoon was in a "shit thread" over at 4chan's /co/ board. Basically what the posters in that thread did was troll each other by showing the worst cartoons they know. Yes, this was another "angry reaction pic thread,"(they never get old). So anyway, fare usually went from annoying stuff like Angela Anaconda, to stupid "What-the-hell-were-they-thinking" stuff like Gadget Boy, Super Duper Sumos, and Butt Ugly Martians. However, whenever someone posted The Nutshack(usually accompanied by the message of "I DARE you to find something shittier..."), the tread just stops right there.

Personally, I find this cartoon to be everything there is to dislike about the Millennium Age of Animation(All Adult Animation is South Park, Lazy Motion Tween'd Animation, Toilet Humor, Totally Radical slang, "that-cursed-crunk-theme-song" etc.).

Anyway, if your curious about that strange clip with one of the main characters "summoning "the barrel man"", here's a TOW article about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_man It's basically a lewd tourist gift.

Glowsquid
topic
05:56:35 PM Jun 8th 2010
Is there any other reasons for why The Fonz and the Happy Days Gang should be on here? The current entry just say the premise is stupid and that Seth Macfarlane (who's not exactly liked by the troper hivemind) cited it as one of the worst cartoons of all time.
VideoGameCrack
01:37:43 PM Jun 24th 2010
Exactly. It doesn't even seem that bad. It's a lot closer to So Bad, It's Good IMO.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
10:32:53 PM Jul 5th 2010
Okay, then. Without further evidence that it's worse than any other cartoon of its type in The Dark Age of Animation, I'll cut this and put it here for now.

  • The Fonz and the Happy Days Gang. If you thought Happy Days jumped the shark before...well, this is worse. Explained in the intro by narrator Wolfman Jack:
    "Oh, now the gang got sucked into that time machine, and they're...like, travelling through time!"
    • You only need to know that it should never be watched without first consuming copious amounts of alcohol. To dull the senses, of course.
    • Ah, yes. The Happy Days gang, a girl from a future that is highly unlikely to turn up, a dog in a leather jacket, and a time-traveling diner with jukebox and year indicator. The goal was to get back to 1957, except when there was a Friend or Idol Decision, in which case some of them would reach 1957 but have to leave to save their friends... This show was cited by Seth MacFarlane as the worst cartoon of all time.
crazyrabbits
08:43:03 AM Jul 22nd 2010
Yeah, I had posted it. While I have seen enough of it to know how bad it was, I concede that it was part of a glut of terrible animated fare in the 70's and 80's.
triassicranger
topic
10:06:58 AM May 13th 2010
As much as I dislike saying this, I have doubts as to whether Kid vs. Kat belongs here. If Deviantart is anything to go by, the show seems to have a fanbase.
warner14
05:49:43 PM Jun 30th 2013
edited by 69.172.221.8
I think that show would go into Love It or Hate It considering there is also a hatedom for that show.
Furienna
03:47:23 PM Apr 19th 2014
edited by 192.168.0.3
sssss
MadMan400096
12:36:58 PM May 18th 2014
edited by 66.189.55.213
I really don't think this entry belongs here: I've actually seen a few select people who like this (I'd be lying if I said I myself wasn't one of those), and even the YMMV.Toonami page admits that some people were fine with it.
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