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Horrible Western Animation Discussion
As much as I dislike saying this, I have doubts as to whether Kid vs. Kat belongs here. If Deviantart is anything to go by, the show seems to have a fanbase.
Is there any other reasons for why The Fonz and the Happy Days Gang should be on here? The current entry just say the premise is stupid and that Seth Macfarlane (who's not exactly liked by the troper hivemind) cited it as one of the worst cartoons of all time.
Okay, then. Without further evidence that it's worse than any other cartoon of its type in The Dark Age Of Animation, I'll cut this and put it here for now.
- The Fonz and the Happy Days Gang
. If you thought Happy Days jumped the shark before...well, this is worse. Explained in the intro by narrator Wolfman Jack:
"Oh, now the gang got sucked into that time machine, and they're...like, travelling through time!"- You only need to know that it should never be watched without first consuming copious amounts of alcohol. To dull the senses, of course.
- Ah, yes. The Happy Days gang, a girl from a future that is highly unlikely to turn up, a dog in a leather jacket, and a time-traveling diner with jukebox and year indicator. The goal was to get back to 1957, except when there was a Friend Or Idol Decision, in which case some of them would reach 1957 but have to leave to save their friends... This show was cited by Seth MacFarlane as the worst cartoon of all time.
Okay, I did some resaerch, and for the health of my brain, I am not doing any more. If this thing is not a pure, uncontestable example of The Nutshack being the Most Triumphant Example of shit, well, be my guest.
is not a pure, uncontestable example of The Nutshack being the Most Triumphant Example of shit, well, be my guest.
Hey there, I just want to elaborate about this entry. The first time I saw this cartoon was in a "shit thread" over at 4chan's /co/ board. Basically what the posters in that thread did was troll each other by showing the worst cartoons they know. Yes, this was another "angry reaction pic thread,"(they never get old). So anyway, fare usually went from annoying stuff like Angela Anaconda, to stupid "What-the-hell-were-they-thinking" stuff like Gadget Boy, Super Duper Sumos, and Butt Ugly Martians. However, whenever someone posted The Nutshack(usually accompanied by the message of "I DARE you to find something shittier..."), the tread just stops right there.
Personally, I find this cartoon to be everything there is to dislike about the Millennium Age of Animation(All Adult Animation is South Park, Lazy Motion Tween'd Animation, Toilet Humor, Totally Radical slang, "that-cursed-crunk-theme-song" etc.).
Anyway, if your curious about that strange clip with one of the main characters "summoning "the barrel man"", here's a TOW article about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_man
It's basically a lewd tourist gift.
It's basically a lewd tourist gift.
Okay, Street Fighter Ride is horrible, but since it's a virtual reality ride, shouldn't it be in Video Games? I just want to be sure here.
Should we be listing Ctrl Alt Del: The Animated Series under Western Animation or Web Original? It's based on a webcomic after all, and it's only sold online on DVD...
Not to turn this into an argument about CAD:The Animated, but while the voice acting certainly isn't Kreed
-level of bad, the performances are quite overracted and phoned in. And beside, the show has many, mnay other problems than just the acting and animation...
-level of bad, the performances are quite overracted and phoned in. And beside, the show has many, mnay other problems than just the acting and animation...
Hmm, tell me, did the Larriva Eleven have that zany Warner Bros. logo at the start, rather than the regular Looney Tunes circle?
Id like to contset this:
- Street Fighter Ride is a virtual reality program whose awfulness gives The Journey Begins a run for its money. Marginally better CG at the expense of some of the worst Adaptation Decay this side of Street Fighter the Movie. It's basically four minutes of Ryu And Ken flying around in hovercrafts as they hunt down M. Bison (who is 20 feet tall in this version for some reason) and pass by a few of the other characters in Street Fighter II fighting their own battles, but none of it appears to matter.
You know, it's kinda cruel to use a clip of a Horrible work as the sole reason for listing it. (I'm thinking of that Simon Bolivar film.)
Removed this for now.
- Ren & Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon was the resurrection of Ren And Stimpy and an example of how some shows should stay dead. The original Ren & Stimpy was good, but was already taking everything Up to Eleven. The new hellspawn that crawled forth from Spike TV went much further. The show was made outright nauseating (which is something, given the original show), and the titular characters were made openly gay in a way that made nearly everyone squirm regardless of sexual orientation. Apparently, John K. was restrained (and eventually fired) for good reason.
Cut this and put it here for now. Its page claims it's So Bad Its Good, and it ran for more than one season.
- Legend of the Dragon was a mind-numbing attempt at Dragon Ball Z-esque anime fighting shows in America. It didn't work out. The plot was literally stock and by the numbers, even ripping off elements of both Dragon Ball Z and Jackie Chan Adventures (both vastly superior shows in every possible sense). The characters were all glaring non-entities. But the worst of the worst was the animation, which is almost impossible to describe without seeing it in "motion" (using the word loosely); the animation of Legend of the Dragon makes the animation of Aqua Teen Hunger Force look like Avatar. Besides being slow and choppy, it renders the characters almost immobile. Males are almost indistinguishable from females, save for their faces. The fight scenes, arguably the point of the show, are done in what is probably supposed to be bullet time or slow motion — but it looks as if it's being paused and unpaused rapidly in succession — clearly, someone didn't draw enough frames. It's almost unwatchable because of the bargain-basement animation. The story and non-action make it boring as Hell.
Removed this:
- Drak Pack, the very nadir of Hanna-Barbera's output in the late 1970s. It was a desperately unfunny gag show about benevolent monsters which was made without a single ounce of imagination, creativity, or curiosity about what it might be like to be a monster.
Hey, who took off The Buzz On Maggie part in the page?! I put it there, because I thought it was pretty bad. Sure, Brian Doyle-Murray isn't that bad of a voice actor, but why'd they pick him to play her dad? What bugs me the most, no pun intended, is that Maggie almost never gets her way. That sucks.
and that's saying something for being adapted from a webcomic that is already so unpopular that even its fans can no longer defend it.
I don't actually read the comic, but can someone back this bit about Ctrl-Alt-Del (the webcomic, not the animated show) up? It sounds like sheer creator bashing.
And what does it even mean?
Who removed Glenn Martin DDS? Did the reviews on TV.Com not prove that the show is in fact hated universally? And where is proof that the show is popular? If it has to be hated by every single person on the planet and not have any fans, THEN THIS PAGE WOULD BE EMPTY. Seltzerand Friedberg have fans yet they're still So Bad Its Horrible. And where were you when they added Rush Zone: Guardians of The Core? I'm sure that show has fans. And that entry was even more personal and rage-filled than mine on Glenn Martin DDS. I (and whoever edited it into its current state) merely took aim its hideous characters, butt jokes, adoration by Viacom despite the Fan Backlash and cripplingly topical sense of humor. The Rush Zone entry isn't anywhere near as comprehensive.
Proposition: No listing shows that are still in production.
Early Installment Weirdness and It Gets Better are known phenomena in TV series. Some series need time to find their final tone.
Also, So Bad Its Horrible is supposed to cover the entirety of a work. We may make allowance for Missing Episodes; but we cannot and should not judge the entirety of a work that is ongoing.
I never understand if the consensus of animated films is that they're listed in Western Animation or Film. Is it supposed to be the latter (I can understand if the "animation studios" bit remains here though)?
What happened to Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer?
Hey, I'm going to contest Mr. Meaty. I don't remember it being that god-awful. Perhaps the collective does. As for research, I think I'll save that for when I don't really need rest...
UPDATE: IMDB gave it 5.2/10. That Other Wiki had this to say:
gave it 4.3/10.
Long story short: At worst, it's mediocre, but unremarkably so. It's not bad enough for here. I'm cutting it for now, but I'll put it here for good measure:
UPDATE: IMDB
gave it 5.2/10. That Other Wiki had this to say:
- The TV series received a great deal of criticism from vegetarians and parents who did not like the gross-out humor. Many petitions were signed and sent to Nickelodeon to end the show. This may be a reason for its move to the Nicktoons Network and ultimately its short life. It is also the first show on Nickelodeon to utilize puppetry which many kids probably didn't appreciate as much as regular animation which could have also contributed to its short life.As of 2010, the Nickelodeon site is still intact and working today and everything is left the same way as it was when it was on.
gave it 4.3/10. Long story short: At worst, it's mediocre, but unremarkably so. It's not bad enough for here. I'm cutting it for now, but I'll put it here for good measure:
- Mr Meaty. Horrible puppet animation as well as ugly looking puppets, the entire plot is two guys who work in a meat shop in a mall. Full of Toilet Humor and other failed jokes, it only lasted one season before Nickolodeon canned it.
Why is Hopla not here?
Heres an episode. prepare to bleed from your eyes.
Wait — Mortal Kombat: the Adventure Begins has a segment in the film proper worth watching?!
Cut this and put it here for now. The film can't be horrible if it contains something truly worth watching — even if it's just a minute or two.
- Mortal Kombat: The Journey Begins, which came out around the time the first live-action movie hit theaters. It was meant as some sort of prequel/retelling/sidestory of the video game and the movie...we think. Chances are, you're better off enjoying the Gorn of the video games, the impressive stuntwork and exciting techno of the live-action movie, or the laughable stupidity of the Saturday-morning cartoon series. This trainwreck had horrible, repetitive, and downright-ugly animation haphazardly set against conspicuous outdated CGI backgrounds. If you don't think you have it in you to stomach the entire thing, then this 10-minute sampler should be enough to give you an idea.
- The behind-the-scenes look at the movie at the end is interesting, but it's not worth watching the whole tape for. In fact, the only part of the animated movie alone worth watching is the "Meet the Mortal Kombatants" segment, which starts at 2:38 in this video.
- The behind-the-scenes look at the movie at the end is interesting, but it's not worth watching the whole tape for. In fact, the only part of the animated movie alone worth watching is the "Meet the Mortal Kombatants" segment, which starts at 2:38 in this video.
Are we sure The Mighty Mr. Titan qualifies?
Put aside the subject matter for a moment. What kind of Horrible work has an Ensemble Darkhorse?
Cut this and put it here for now. An Ensemble Darkhorse, IIRC, is a character who is unexpectedly popular with the fanbase. Thus, you cannot have one without the other.
- In a similar vein to The Big World Of Little Adam is The Mighty Mr. Titan, another educational program made during the dawn of the Cold War. The concept behind the show already fails — it was intended to encourage kids to exercise and be more active, but wouldn't they just go outside and play instead of take formal exercises with an animated workout video? In addition, the Limited Animation, while surprisingly impressive in comparison to Little Adam, is still painfully obvious, and the framerate and motion is cringe-inducing. And then there's Mr. Titan himself, a constantly smiling Marty Stu who always stands in the same, stiff position, and has the personality of a stick figure; in fact, his own sidekick, a stick figure himself, bests him in both personality and popularity. *
I'm not going to cut it just yet, but does The Wacky World of Tex Avery really belong here? As far as I know, it was a kids' show, and kids will watch pretty much anything you put in front of them. Besides that, its entry has all the markings of Complaining About Shows You Dont Like, particularly the "it doesn't have even one funny joke!" bit - humor is subjective, after all.
Why is the link to the Hammerman theme song sung by Microsoft Sam under the post about Freaky Flickers: the Movie?
Regarding this.
- The original Secret Of Nimh was a classic, well recieved animated feature from Don Bluth that boldly tried to break out of the Animation Age Ghetto with it's lush art direction, surprisingly mature story, and excellent characterization. The Secret of NIMH II, on the other hand, suddenly did a total 180, and crashed the series head-on into the ghetto. And to say it sucked would be a compliment. The animation was atrocious—stiff, limited animation peppered with mediocre drawings and garishly colored backgrounds that don't even remotely capture the lush art of the first film. The story completely went against the first film, throwing out the mature story for a Self Fulfilling Prophecy that can be seen coming from a mile away, and in general the story is a total Cliche Storm. The characters from the first film are completely derailed in personality and have the Idiot Ball stiched to them. The acting is so bland and forced that you wonder if they're even trying. The songs absolutely stink and only serve to shamelessly cash in on the Disney musical craze of the 90's (even though the first film was clearly an Anti-Disney film). In general, the whole film completely goes against what made the original such a classic, and is one of the most infamous examples of Sequelitis outside of the Land Before Time franchise.
I'm calling bullshit on this.
- Despite relatively decent ratings, the cartoon Squirrel Boy seems to be considered this to many people. If fact, the Hatedom helped lead to its eventual cancellation.
^ Are you kidding? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHyB1kRDNc&feature=related
Just look at how many dislikes there are in Youtube. Plus, Rush Zone: Guardians of the Core was added on despite still showing.
Just look at how many dislikes there are in Youtube. Plus, Rush Zone: Guardians of the Core was added on despite still showing.
C An we please add The Problem Solverz there? It's already hated by everyone and I already added it but it was removed for some reason.
Can we add Space Chimps 2: Zartog Strikes Back? It got a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Is Pro Stars viable for So Bad It's Horrible?
About "Doozy bots", if there is another reason why is sucks OTHER than the fact it's a poor adaption of MSG than you have to state it. None of that "trust me" crap.
I think I saw this under So Bad Its Good once...
- Behold, The Doozy Bots. At first, it looks like a lame cross between Mighty Orbots and Captain Planet starring a Five Token Band consisting of an ambiguously Asian quarterback, a cheerleader with a southern drawl, a fat hockey player, a skateboarder who speaks totally radical, and a black cripple. Together, they join Dr. Doozy and have their minds transferred into the eponymous robots to fight an earlier generation bent on eliminating fun from the world. It could still have been So Bad Its Good... if it weren't for the robots themselves.◊ Yes, that's right; this is supposed to be an adaptation of Mobile Suit Gundam for American audiences. It goes downhill from here: the robots turn out to be midgets, and the bad guys are wimps who go down in one punch. The worst part? Sunrise thought this is what Americans want. Make of that what you will.
- The biggest of the Unfortunate Implications? The fact the black cripple turns into a Guntank!!
- The biggest of the Unfortunate Implications? The fact the black cripple turns into a Guntank
