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Periphery Hatedom

I hate you, you hate me
Let's hang Barney from a tree
With a knife in his back and a loaded .44
No more purple dinosaur.
— One of many similar parodies of the Barney & Friends ending song

Periphery Hatedom is when a character or show receives scorn and hatred from groups it was never meant to appeal to in the first place. It inspires an anti-Periphery Demographic, who respond to them in such a way that you'd think they had committed some unspeakable atrocity.

This is not to say that the dislike is always undeserved. We live in a mass-media world now, and any major pop-culture phenomenon is going to make at least some in-roads into the mainstream and show up on our radar whether it's aimed at us or not. In the worse case scenario, it may become inescapable, or prove so popular in its demographic that those attempting to Follow the Leader choke out any innovation in other programming for a period. Of course, a Periphery Hatedom can help make things even more inescapable, even well after the pop-culture phenomenon's popularity has died down.

Even an otherwise benign Periphery Hatedom can look fanatical to disinterested third parties, who are as likely to direct their pleas of "Will you just shut up about it already!" to the haters as to the fans.

Keep in mind that some of the stuff that was marketed towards you when you were a kid had a Periphery Hatedom at the time, and the kids who love a kid-oriented work with a Periphery Hatedom may grow up to become the adults who hate some new kid-oriented work, while still viewing the stuff they themselves enjoyed as kids as pure quality.

Also, keep in mind that just because something is intended for a specific audience that sometimes is not very concerned with the quality of the work, that doesn't mean the creators have an excuse to be lazy, so, if the Periphery Hatedom proves that even for its intended target audience the work isn't good, then they can have a point ("Just because something is made for kids, that doesn't mean they are free to treat them like idiots").

Compare Love It or Hate It, where the demographics are not nearly so sharply defined (and the hatedom rarely overshadows the work), Bile Fascination, a primary reason for people outside the target demographic to investigate. Contrast Hype Backlash, where a backlash occurs against something people have been told they'd like.

Many music examples overlap with Dead Horse Genre. Can lead to Deader Than Disco when a work's target demographic stops liking it and joins in on the bashing. See also Americans Hate Tingle for regional examples. Can be caused by What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?. Moral Guardians are a specific type of Periphery Hatedom, who sometimes subvert the trope by directing their complaints at how they think the work will affect its intended audience. However, they often play it straight by getting the target audience wrong, typically by assuming that everything of a particular genre must be kid-appropriate.

Remember, this trope is specifically for examples where the hate comes from not pleasing a group that it never planned to reach in the first place. Complaining about Shows You Don't Watch when you're within its intended audience is not this trope. And cases of former fans rejecting newer versions of their preferred work/genre almost never fall here unless the work has a Fleeting Demographic (such as a lot of kids' shows, teen pop music, etc.) and the fan has grown out of it. Otherwise, move it to They Changed It, Now It Sucks.


Examples

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    In-Universe Examples 
  • Much of the content of MAD harshly satirizes franchises, shows, and films that the target readership (mostly young teenage boys) could not be expected to have any real interest in, including soap operas, Hollywood dramas, and children's cartoons. The magazine's iconic comic strip parodies are always written with a tone of exasperated annoyance — even when mocking things that aren't really that omnipresent in the culture.
  • The Hollywood Nerds that make up the main male cast of The Big Bang Theory are sometimes looked down on by Penny the non-nerd in playing tabletop RPG's, MMORPG's, card games, video games, and liking comic books, Star Trek, and Star Wars. As Penny gets to know them better, she develops more respect for their hobbies, even participating in some of them.
  • Gru in Despicable Me parodies this trope when one of the orphans he adopts asks him to read a cute children's story called "Three Sleepy Kittens". He calls the book insipid - when it is aimed at 5-year olds, and he's being asked to read it by a 5-year old.
  • Humphrey the Hippo in The Critic.
  • Mary Moo Cow, the Barney Captain Ersatz of the Arthur universe, is this to the titular character of the show — the theme song itself is known to aggravate Arthur. The Tina the Talking Tabby commercial in Arthur's Perfect Christmas and Vidiboobies (one of the many Captain Ersatzs of Teletubbies in the show's universe) has the same net effect on Arthur.
  • Baloney from Animaniacs, a parody of Barney & Friends who is known for inadvertently terrorizing the Warners.
  • The Cinema Snob is this towards exploitation films, porn parodies, and anything else that isn't True Art.
  • Bonky the Dragon from Recess (Though Mikey briefly went back into a Bonky phase when he was afraid of turning ten).
  • An early For Better or for Worse story consists of Elly being disappointed with finding out Michael has been playing video games at the arcade, and forbids him from doing so at the end of it, tying into the real-life stigma video games faced, as listed below. A person reading reruns of the story or reading it in a book collection might wonder what the fuss is about if they were born after the 1980s or early 1990s, as also listed below.
  • One FoxTrot mini-arc has Jason freaking out because his mom bought him a Barney lunchbox instead of the Jurassic Park one he wanted. Her logic: They're both dinosaurs. What's the difference? His response: Barney's not a dinosaur! He's a big sappy doofus who sings to little kids!
  • Blarney and Georgie, two Barney parodies from Dinosaurs, have this effect on Earl, Fran, Robbie, and Charlene. Baby is a huge fan of both these shows, but in one episode, Terrible Twos, he wanted Blarney to die.
  • Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked had a scene where one of the chipmunks turns on the TV to a movie aimed at toddlers called "Hello Lolly". The boys react in disgust and think Dave is treating them like babies. They then change it to a movie about a jungle monster.
  • Goober the Gopher from Rugrats is a bit of a subversion; even though Chuckie and Dil, who are part of his intended target audience, like him, Tommy, who is also part of the intended audience, doesn't.
    • A more straight example is the movie, "The Dummi Bears in the Land Without Smiles" from the episode, "At The Movies", as throughout the episode, Grandpa Lou spends all his time complaining about the movie's saccharine tone and how he'd rather go bowling.
  • The Show Within a Show Pootan to Yamaguchi from Cromartie High School. He finds the show stupid and trash, but everyone else likes it. Yamaguchi even attempts to watch the show until he finds what makes it so popular.
  • Bessie Higgingbottom from The Mighty B! is hated by Portia, Gwen, Penny, Nameless members of the Honey Bee trope, Mary Gibbons, and Anton St. Germain.
  • "Asses of Fire" from the South Park movie is hated by parents, causing them to murder Terrance and Phillip. The movie isn't even aimed for the main four's targeted audience. Which is the main reason Shelia hates the movie.
  • In the Josh Radnor movie Liberal Arts, the 35-year old protagonist, who has degree in literature, berates a 19-year old college student for liking the Twilight books. He considers them to be one of the worst exampes of English literature, despite not having actually read any of the books. This gets subverted, though: he actually reads the first book, and even though he still hates it, by the end of the movie he ends up recommending it to another student, as he figures out not everything college kids read should be serious literature.
  • In the episode, "Some Enchanted Evening" from the first season of The Simpsons, while Lisa and Maggie are big fans of The Smurfs Captain Ersatz, "The Happy Little Elves", Bart cannot stand it and refers to it as "The Crappy Little Elves". Grampa Abe isn't a big fan of them either. In the Christmas Episode pilot, "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire," he refers to them as "unadulterated pap."
  • In the King of the Hill episode "Get Your Freak Off", Hank highly disapproves the contents in the musics Bobby listens to (let alone many other things he dislikes what Bobby likes). He took Bobby to a boy band concert when he assumed the band was acceptable due to the subtle lyrics and conservative outfits...until he's disgusted when the band stripped out of their suits and grabbing their crotches in front of the preteen crowd. He drags Bobby out of the concert when he is freak dancing with his friends.

    Anime and Manga 
  • Dragon Ball Z and Sailor Moon qualify, as a truly amazing number of hate-sites appeared in the early days of the Internet, most of which were run by the demographic that the other appealed to. That sure explains all the "DragonMoonX" Rule 34 out there.
  • The moe style and concept, to fans of mecha anime and fans who got into anime because of Cowboy Bebop. While many mech fans had their misgivings about a strong focus on moe even when it was shows like K-On and Lucky Star, most of them took an instant dislike to shows like Strike Witches, Sky Girls, and Infinite Stratos, which merged mecha elements with the moe style. Many fans feel robbed by the ubiquity of moe: where once there was a lot of "traditional" anime on the air, now it is forced onto OVAs; the airtime is filled with Slice of Life and adaptations of Visual/Light Novels which have pushed more "traditional" anime aside. Add in known mecha directors like Yoshiyuki Tomino and Hideaki Anno. Somewhat ironic, as Rei Ayanami in his Neon Genesis Evangelion is considered the Trope Codifier of moe, if only because of a Misaimed Fandom. Throw in calling out moe as strangling the anime industry's creativity, and you've got all the ingredients for a Periphery Hatedom.
  • Merchandise-Driven kids' animes often suffer from Periphery Hatedom, though some have large numbers of genuine fans:
  • Hamtaro. The most vocal haters of it were people who apparently could never tell that it was a kid's show and carries all the characteristics of kids' shows that adults absolutely hate. Hamtaro was a popular target for the Periphery Demographic of a lot of Shōnen anime, and fans of more "sophisticated" anime (Such as Seinen and Josei) love to hate Hamtaro. One bit of irony is when people hated it for catering to the Animation Age Ghetto and being made for younger kids, even though it was intended for the little kid demographic in Japan.
    • Some of this could have to do with the fact that in the United States, Hamtaro aired on Toonami. In the commercials, not even Tom could tell why he was watching it. His exact words were "... Well, at least they're cute."
  • Anpanman has this in Japan, to the point where the videos on YouTube for the show have more dislikes than likes.
  • Free! gets flak from people who feel that beefcake Fanservice and Moe boys bleed Squick, but have no problems with cheesecake and Moe girls.

    Comic Strips 
  • The Family Circus has received a disproportionate amount of mockery over the years from people not in its kids-say-the-darndest-things-isn't-it-cute? demographic.
  • Jack Chick's Chick Tracts do a zig-zagging of this trope. The tracts are supposed to be aimed at non-Evangelicals, to bring them into the fold, but only an Evangelical could possibly take them seriously (and even most of them think they're absurd), while his target audience despises the contents. It is for this reason that his fanbase consists primarily of people who read his comics to make fun of them.
  • Marvin is written pretty much exclusively for new mothers. Everybody else seems to hate it.
  • Garfield suffers from heavy Nostalgia Filter syndrome, and is often hated by people who believe it's "gotten worse" when in reality it's a strip best enjoyed by kids. It's also something of an Artifact of the late 1970s, so it's basically a baby-boomer strip. So most of the complaints seem to come from Generation X'ers who enjoyed it as kids and have become too "sophisticated" for it, while many Baby Boomers (now in their fifties or older) don't read the comics much anymore and are too busy complaining about other things.

    Film 
  • Also, in the specific case of Speed Racer, a large portion of the original fanbase grew older and were likely expecting something A BIT Darker and Edgier for them (like the Transformers movie).
  • The Alvin and the Chipmunks movies are hugely popular with kids. As a bonus, the "squeakquel" handily outpacing the Disney Animated Canon effort The Princess and the Frog (intended to Win Back the Crowd for hand-drawn animation) at the box office has earned it a great deal of wrath from Disney fans who mourn for the tastes of children.
  • Adult Muppet fans have a small history of forming Periphery Hatedoms towards movies that directly compete with, and outdraw, the newer Muppet movies. These movies usually aren't for their demographic and get much worse reviews than the well-reviewed Muppet movies. 2011's The Muppets, despite getting rave reviews, was outdrawn by a Twilight sequel (described in "Literature", below) and an Alvin and the Chipmunks threequel (described just above), both of which got pretty bad reviews. Muppets Most Wanted got this even worse; not only was it beaten by Divergent (a YA adaptation) at the box office, but it was even turned into an Acclaimed Flop due to the competition. Needless to say, Muppet fans now don't take very kindly to young-adult female novel adaptations or half live-action half-CGI kiddie movies based on archaic cartoon characters.
  • Tyler Perry's movies have created a series of minor racism controversies based on the fact that they tend to be critically-drubbed by the vast majority of critics (most of whom are white), yet are extraordinarily popular in the black community, which has turned these movies into #1 hits. Roger Ebert seemed to be a particular target. On top of that, Perry also experiences this among black viewers. Perry got his start staging plays on what's sometimes called the "Chitlin' Circuit", a vaudeville-esque black theater circuit which primarily caters to older, more conservative, and more religious audiences. African American subcultures experience as much Values Dissonance with each other as they do with anyone else; someone who identifies with Reggie Watts or Aaron McGruder could find Perry quite tasteless, and vise-versa. Perry even threatened to pull some of his content from TBS after one episode of The Boondocks made harsh fun of the Unfortunate Implications and Strictly Formula tendencies of Perry's movies. Either way, Perry caters to a very specific demographic with which many African Americans do not identify.
  • Minya (the "Son of Godzilla") was created specifically in 1967 in order to appeal to younger audiences (at the time, there were more kids that were going to see Godzilla movies than adults). Of course, Minya started being considered to be the single most-hated character in the Godzilla franchise, with the possible exception of Jet Jaguar.
  • Want to piss off a fan of traditional animation? Say the word Pixar, and see what happens.
    • Cars. Kids love Cars... but it's one of the few Pixar movies that doesn't have a lot of adult appeal. Of course, some people hate Cars because Disney absolutely adores it, despite that it was received the worst by critics and Pixar's usual adult fanbase. This is mostly due to the fact that the only reason they made a sequel was for The Merch. It's because of this that despite Up being one of Pixar's highest rated movies, their stock actually dropped. Why? Because stockholders knew it wasn't made for merchandizing.
  • The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure suffers hard from this trope according to several reviews. It doesn't help that it's essentially a combination of Barney and Friends and Teletubbies (two of the most notorious examples) as a feature film.
  • The Smurfs Live-Action Adaptation gets this under similar conditions to the Alvin and the Chipmunks movies. Many are hoping that the planned sequel does not outdraw The Movie of Phineas and Ferb. That and the fact that the CGI Smurfs look downright creepy.
  • Transformers: The movies are a big target for this kind of thing.
  • Disney Princess movies, especially Disney Animated Canon ones, tend to attract a male Periphery Hatedom despite being well-regarded by critics of both genders in most cases. Many of these haters are very young boys who simply hate the movies for being "stupid and girly", but older males can also develop some spite towards them for various reasons, mostly related to It's Popular, Now It Sucks:
    • Quite a few teenage boys and young men resent Frozen due to It's Popular, Now It Sucks, especially since it outgrossed most other movies for their demographic — including its male-oriented predecessor Wreck-It Ralph, as well as every single superhero movie ever except The Avengers. The fact that this record is a result of Germans Love David Hasselhoff can either make this better or worse, depending on one's bias. Not helping matters is the movie's male characters and villains failing to draw a significant fanbase, with Kristoff being insignificant and clueless compared to the female characters, Hans lacking the Evil Is Cool factor of many past Disney villains, and Olaf being very entertaining but still being a Disney sidekick (not the type of character to attract fanboys).
    • Brave, Pixar's own Disney Princess film, also got this reaction for Award Snub reasons. It got positive reviews that were nonetheless very mixed by Pixar standards, which caused it to attract a lot of bile from males when it won the Oscar for Best Animated Picture over better-reviewed (and coincidentially male-oriented) competition (Wreck-It Ralph, The Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists, Frankenweenie, and ParaNorman). Because the common consensus was that Ralph would win the Oscar, some believed that Brave's win was simply a move to promote feminism rather than an actual measure of the movie's quality, with it being the first Pixar movie directed by a woman, starring a female protagonist.
  • The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and to a lesser extent its predecessor, seem to get at least some of its flack for this reason. While the original films were aimed more towards the family crowd, these films seem to be aimed more towards a teenager and nerd crowd, blending in elements that are popular with these kind of fans, such as a more focused romance subplot, and a Myth Arc involving Oscorp and its conspiracies and a more flawed protagonist. For some fans of the original films, this is off-putting due to making it more niche than the other films.

    Literature 
  • Left Behind has a huge Periphery Hatedom; pretty much anybody who doesn't subscribe to the authors' precise apocalyptic vision is a potential member. Ironically the most in-depth (by far) critique of the series is being produced by a (progressive) evangelical Christian. The hatred comes from several directions: those who aren't Christians and disagree with its message from the outset, those who are Christians but think the authors are on the fringe and making the rest look bad, and even those who are Christian and who believe the Rapture is imminent, but think Left Behind has got it all wrong. Some may feel it's an easy work of fiction to avoid due to limited mainstream marketing, though this depends on where you live, such as if you're in an area where typical Left Behind readers are the majority (though even then, it's hardly on the level of Twilight). However, much like some of the Twilight hatred, the criticism is sometimes about what the stories are indicative of, and what influence they have on the readers in the intended demographic.
  • The Twilight series attracts both legions of fans even in this very wiki, and even larger legions of the Hatedom, most of which have never read the books or seen the movies (but many who have). The hatred tends to be split between the direct hatred for the sparkly vampires / Bella Sue/ Purple Prose sex scenes/ what have you, the Hype Aversion from all the Edward-or-Jacob Ship-to-Ship Combat that saturated the world, and the fact that it's just not written very well. The hate for Twilight among Goths seems to be particularly vitriolic. Anyone expressing love for Twilight is generally met with an icy or hostile reception. Events specifically to bash Twilight are common. The Hatedom got so big that it created a whole new fandom. The riffs of the Film Adaptations of this series on Rifftrax became the most popular and anticipated riffs.

    Live-Action TV 
  • Barney & Friends:
    • Barney the Purple Dinosaur gets this treatment for the amount of sheer vitriol levelled against him for his crime of being big, cloying, purple, doofy, and not a carnivore. A surprisingly large number of the most extreme Barney-haters are not parents and don't have toddler-age siblings, and therefore could avoid him simply by not watching the show. They probably would not have heard of the show if it were not for the already existing Periphery Hatedom and their watching of the channel it's on. One big reason for the hate from people outside the demographic is because it would often air at times when college students were watching TV, so it's pretty hard to escape. Barney hatred is so deeply ingrained into the elementary-school-age community that some 10-year olds will automatically hate anything named Barney, from real people to fictional characters.
    • Barney hate is referenced in Jurassic Park III: one character manages to get a phone call in to an old friend's house to call for help, but unfortunately her infant son picks up the phone and forgets all about it as Barney comes on TV.
    • The music video for "Jurassic Park" featured a scene with Barney getting his head bitten off by an even larger dinosaur. It later gets coughed back up. When this video is played during his concerts, that particular scene is met with roaring applause and cheer by the audience. Weird Al has taken jabs at the purple dinosaur in several other of his music videos, too. For example, the animated music video "I'll Sue Ya!" featured a familiarly colored toy dinosaur chewing on someone's mutilated arm in one scene.
    • The song "Barney's on Fire" by Tony Mason is all about this, to the point that even the audience delight in the gristly spectacle and actively refuse to help, even though they're aware there's a perfectly normal actor in that suit who is dying horribly. Comedic Sociopathy taken to a horrifying level.
    • In Dilbert, the Pointy-Haired Boss is a Barney fan, the joke being that he's a grown man who enjoys a show which 6-year olds consider babyish because he's just that stupid.
    • The Simpsons once made the joke at Homer Simpson's expense.
    • The special "Hey, Hey, Hey, It's The Monkees" also referenced Barney hate. During one part of the special, one of the band members pulls out a Barney puppet for some kids. When another member asks him about it, he puts the Barney puppet away and pulls out a Monkees puppet instead.
    • There was once a comedy sound clip where the Power Rangers fight Barney, and flush him down the toilet in the end.
    • Lunar: Eternal Blue has a book in the library about killing Barney, to which Ruby says "Hallelujah it's about time somebody wrote this book".
    • The Other Wiki even has its own page dedicated to all of the Barney hate, which is roughly as long as the same site's page on just the show itself.
    • Averted in Heaven Is For Real, where a firefighter says that a flight attendant he used to work with says she once thought she was talking to Barney.
    • The old Fighting Game Xenophage Alien Bloodsport had Dummied Out files for a familiar-looking dinosaur character named "Blarney". Using hacks, you could play as (or against) him, but his only attack is shooting hearts and he tends to glitch a lot.
  • Heres Humphrey: Humphrey B. Bear can be viewed as the Australian Barney, due to the way he is hated by many pre-teens in his homeland for his goofy antics. And oh, for having a human co-host that talks down to the viewers. Like pre-teens from other developed countries, Australian pre-teens don't like being talked down to either, and like pre-teens from other developed countries, the pre-teen boys naturally dislike being around girls. However, Humphrey invokes the Nostalgia Filter sooner — Most Australians tend to remember him more favorably by the time they reach their late teens. Barney Hatedom usually doesn't fade and get replaced by Nostalgia Filter until the former viewer-cum-hater has started a family, which by time he/she will be in the late 20s or early-30s (and sometimes, it doesn't even leave). The fact that Humphrey's co-host is usually a hot chick (albeit one that talks down to kids) probably helps.
  • Teletubbies: Barney is the king of this trope, but this is worthy company for him. The Teletubbies is even hated due to the "Bear and Lion" vignette. They were not meant for you. Especially not if you're denouncing one of them for being gay. While it has the usual Periphery Hatedom, some concerned parents made waves when it was thought that the nonsense speech of the main characters might be hurting the verbal development of its target audience at a time when their babbling starts to cohere into words and basic sentences. There's also the argument that any television program is bad for a target audience at a developmental period where they're mainly learning how to move. It's possible to believe that the people actually making the show did their best with the content and still think the primary intent and effect of the show's existence was to increase the exposure of infants to TV commercials and brand logos. Oh, and the show's main theme was written by Simon Cowell.
  • Even hardcore Teletubbies fans don't think twice about expressing their disdain for the very similar Boohbah or In The Night Garden.
  • Disney Channel live-action original programming in general, most famously High School Musical and Hannah Montana.
  • The Lawrence Welk Show, in the 1970s and since. It was enormously popular when it was new, in the '50s, but by the time it had lasted 20 years, the number of people in the periphery demographics far outnumbered the people for whom it was originally intended. Even in The Fifties, comedians like Sid Caesar and Allan Sherman mocked it as a Tastes Like Diabetes Reactionary Fantasy. The show fervently denied anything remotely dark or risquénote , even if it fit with the standards of the time. The over-done art direction and eerily persistent grins even seemed eerily inhuman to some people. It also featured many regional acts tailored to please Vaudeville and State Fair audiences. Broad, diverse TV audiences probably felt some stylistic Values Dissonance. If you want an idea of how behind-the-times The Lawrence Welk Show was even in its day, consider the episode that had a tribute to America's ethnic diversity. The most exotic ethnic group featured were...the Italians. Even by the 1970s, Welk was still shown to be out of touch with the times, an infamous example being introducing Brewer and Shipley's 1971 hit "One Toke Over the Line" as a "modern spiritual" (when in fact it was a mock spiritual, and then vice-president Spiro Agnew claimed it was subversive). Although some contemporary songs slowly found their way onto the show – for instance, one 1975 episode had cast members singing covers of Captain & Tennille's "Love Will Keep Us Together" and Morris Albert's "Feelings," while another featured Three Dog Night's "An Old-Fashioned Love Song" – the show still relied heavily on pre-1955 (namely, big band, patriotic, sacred and pop standards) for its songs. Even as late as the mid-1970s, there were many households that had one television set, meaning if the parents liked it, the children – especially teenagers, who winced at the mere mention of music they considered "square," "unlistenable" and outdated – had little choice but to either watch, go to a friend's house or do something else.
  • Sesame Street:
    • Elmo became less than popular to a large number of the show's longtime fans, mainly because the show's focus somehow shifted onto him and less on the other muppets and characters. Made worse by Sesame Workshop deciding to assign a fifteen minute segment of Sesame Street to the segment, Elmo's World, and giving the segment an ending song set to a traditional song (Jingle Bells), like fellow children's show Barney & Friendsnote . Much of the intended demographic loved it, however.
    • Children who have just outgrown Sesame Street have been known to hate the show and equate it to Barney, due to their being too young to understand the show's honest efforts to educate children and keep their parents amused — not to mention that Sesame Street predates Barney and Friends by about a quarter of a century.
    • Abby got the same treatment as Elmo, mainly from extremely young adults and teens that grew up watching and fell in love with Elmo.
  • Sex and the City: Many men, and women outside the target demographic, see the characters as shallow and overly consumerist and far too prone to inane chatter, or as horrifyingly whiny, self obsessed, and irresponsible. When the series left the scene, most of its old hatedom started being focused on Girls. Creator Lena Dunham gets most of the flack.
  • Spear Counterpart to Sex and the City, Entourage, gets many similar complaints, still mostly from those outside the target demographic.
  • Dino Dan, mostly from the school of thought of "that kid needs help" (a hearty serving of Ham and Cheese sandwiches doesn't help, either).
  • Seinfeld has a hatedom based around how "Jewish" the show is. In actual fact, none of the characters is remotely religious, and much of the humor comes from the mundane things they get up to in their lives. Jerry sometimes is mentioned as being a Jew, but this is mostly to make his parents happy. Some of the show's detractors will mention that the creators are Jewish, despite the fact this is the case for many other comedies (such as Friends). It is probably just the curse of having a Jewish name in the title.
  • Curb Your Enthusiasm was billed from the start as being very Jewish, and as a consequence, did not get nearly as many fans as Seinfeld. It's probably more a backlash to the You Have to Have Jews trope, which can get pretty annoying if you're not Jewish.
  • In Mexico, telenovelas or soap operas are still hugely popular among their target audiences, but intellectuals, men, working women, and left-wingers tend not only to hate the shows, but also to be condescending with the fans. (This, of course, raises the question of exactly what within the telenovelas is ticking off intellectuals, men, working women, and left-wingers in equal measure.) It doesn't help things that watching telenovelas has become a stereotype of Mexicans.
  • Marvin Marvin, partly due to its Up to Eleven Toilet Humor, for being very unoriginal, and for being another Lucas Cruikshank vehicle. Eventually canceled after one season as part of the network's continual executive foot-shooting to keep up with Disney.
  • Of Nickelodeon shows, 2013's Nick Studio 10 received an irrational hatedom because of its untraditional interruptions of programming (right in the middle with random video that had no rhyme or reason, though the block was mainly made up of the usual SpongeBob SquarePants marathons the network has become addicted to, so unless you're completely new to the show, you knew what was happening anyways), stunts and skits which wasted food, Toilet Humor and probably overheated accusations of animal abuse, though the actual audience either enjoyed it or rolled their eyes and waited them out because they were there to watch a show, not the continuity between. It may have developed into a sane block eventually, but a hacking of the show's Twitter account with racist content, social media harassment of the cast, YouTube videos criticizing it made by viewers well out of their demographic (the most infamous hater of the block was in his thirties), and the show's Facebook moderator just giving up made it too onerous for Nickelodeon to continue it. After a Labor Day 'best-of' episode promising the return of the block, the cast moved onto projects outside the network, and who could blame them?
  • NickMom started out as a new block on the Nick Jr. channel in 2012 centered on mom-focused humor and such to give them a respite after having to tolerate their toddler's continuous Peppa Pig obsession. To social media critics who don't understand that a new network's first schedule will never become permanent, it was like Franklin, Dora, and Blue's Clues were taken out back and shot, replaced by inappropriate mom-focused humor despite multiple content warnings. The ratings, however, eventually sorted things out; the funny stuff and sitcom reruns worked, the vulgar stuff didn't, and in 2014 NickMom is benign as can be, with Disney Junior, Sprout, and Netflix easily happy to take the homes that don't want to watch NickMom.
  • Kid President Declaration Of Awesome; if you go on The Hub's Facebook page you'll see that half of the comments on posts about it are viewers who genuinely like the main character. The other half are people decrying it as a rip-off of Cory in the House (though that show simply had the main character living with the president rather than being the president) and people betting that it will be a Short Runner.

    Music 
  • Boy bands in general. It is well-known that many of these bands are manufactured more for looks than for sound. It doesn't help that they traditionally don't write their own music and often have only vocalists in their official line-up, which costs them respect even with fans of the pop genre.
    • Hanson in particular, from the amount of bile it raised in the non-fan throat. Hanson wasn't even a boy band in the traditional sense, since they at least wrote their own songs and played the instruments themselves (as well as being actually, y'know, related to each other instead of being manufactured according to some kind of "next, we need a dark-haired Bad Boy" list). Yet because they consisted of photogenic young men who made poppy music, they were lumped in with the rest.
    • Backstreet Boys and *NSYNC were notable because they tried to reach for a Periphery Demographic and were smacked down. Some people were even surprised to learn that these were different bands. To make things even more interesting, Justin Timberlake (from NSYNC) did gain success outside the usual boy-band demographic.
    • One Direction has one. It's not nearly as large as the other ones, however. The Wanted and Big Time Rush, on the other hand, do not really have such hatedoms, as their fandoms aren't large enough to spawn one in the first place. Most of their haters are One Direction fans.
      • Music critic Todd in the Shadows said himself that while he thinks some of One D's songs are pretty bad, he actually can't really find too much to hate about the band members themselves. They're charismatic in their own right and do play their own instruments. No, it's the song writers who are writing all the manufactured "Girl I genuinely care for you and want to woo your pants off" songs that they sing. Heck, after hearing "The Best Song Ever", he has a fairly respectable opinion of them. He knows the band isn't part of his specific demographic, but he still can't help but hate because that's just how the music industry works.
  • This was also true of the Motown girls' groups (e.g. The Supremes), doo-wop, and a dozen other genres. In the old days, even classical musicians were hired as much for their looks as for their talent. The problem is really that these boys are being picked for girls to ogle, which is a Bad Thing because if girls are ogling them, they're not ogling the young men who make up this particular Periphery Hatedom.
  • Pop princesses, such as Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, may have moved out of this category if they managed to grow up with any grace or artistry. Christina Aguilera successfully transferred to other genres, but this resulted in her falling well out of the limelight, so her hatedom has died down a bit. Britney Spears started to die down, but then it flared back up again when Kevin Federline entered her life and the media debacle that surrounded that. She's calmed down since then, and is starting to gain a bit of respect again for moving on with her career.
  • Justin Bieber, another Teen Idol. The huge media coverage (including being the focal point of one of Funnyordie.com's April Fools' Day pranks) didn't help. The hatred of Bieber became so widespread that about half of all YouTube videos, even those unrelated to Bieber, have someone complaining about him in the comments. While there are valid reasons to dislike him based on his actions — from pissing in a restaurant kitchen to drunk driving and getting away with it with nothing but a slap on the wrist — he has yet to do anything that really seems heinous enough to justify being voted among the top three worst people in history alongside Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin.
  • People hate a lot on Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, and most of these teenage, Disney-sponsored musical artists who are really only supposed to appeal to younger girls. These fans express appreciation through high-pitched Squee, and these artists didn't seem to appeal to anyone else (they were too young to invoke Parent Service and Disney has nearly abandoned their flagship IPs like Mickey and Goofy to focus on marketing these singers), so tolerance for Squee in everyone else is at a minimum.
    • In the case of Miley Cyrus, when she broke out from her Contractual Purity and went into a more daring approach, like her performance in the 2013 MTV VMAs, she got more flack, particularly from Moral Guardians.
  • Taylor Swift has haters that think she is a soulless sellout. Then there are the people who think she's anti-feminist for singing stereotypical love songs and spending most of her time mooning over boys. She also gets bashed for being a Purity Sue (which is especially ridiculous when you consider songs like "Picture To Burn", "Better Than Revenge", and "Sparks Fly"). Though, this has lessened a little bit after she recorded a song for The Hunger Games movie, singing about something different.
  • All pop music, to some rock fans. All music recorded after 1980 or so to some classic rock fans.
  • All music after about 1991 to some metalheads.
  • J-pop, and for that matter Japanese music in general, gets this pretty bad. It is often called "weeaboo music". J-pop is rabidly hated by both J-rock fans and people who aren't fond of Japanese music in general. This is played with by the anime series Puella Magi Madoka Magica. It uses an obnoxiously cutesy J-pop song as its opening theme, to enhance its image as a cute Magical Girl show that older males would hate, and then shocks the viewer with its incredibly dark themes and intense violence. Needless to say, the ending theme is a much more intense J-rock song.
  • J-Idol manages to have even more haters than J-pop, thanks to the Contractual Purity enforced by the agencies that not even its rivals dare to implement, the insane Black Shirt fandom who defend the practices, and the criminal element of how it is run by sleazy criminal organizations. Not to mention how out of touch it is with modern music trends makes it very easily hated by outsiders.
  • A lot of non-rock performers, especially in the 1970s, became vilified by rock critics and fans when their songs became hits on pop radio. John Denver and Barry Manilow are two examples of this.
  • Backlash against Disco during its heyday in the 70's was so great that there is a trope named after this backlash. Disco Demolition Night is a famous example of contemporary hatred toward the genre.
    • Specifically targeted are The Bee Gees, who were the face of disco in the late 1970s. Many were celebrating in the early 1980s when their amazing hit streak of the late 1970s came to a sudden halt (after 1979's "Love You Inside Out"), but even though they no longer dominated the charts, the Bee Gees — always well-respected for their harmonies — continued to sell out concerts, its members (specifically, Barry Gibb) continued to write hit songs for other artists, and in time, their songs that hit during the peak of their popularity began to receive heavy airplay on oldies stations.
  • Nu Metal has gotten a similar treatment. At the time of its debut, it was popular among rock fans sick of the genre being monopolized by Pop Punk. The exaggerated aggression of Nu Metal, however, eventually burnt everyone out on it.
  • Pat Boone as a 1950s-'60s pop idol, since his career was built largely on making the more incendiary forms of popular music such as R&B "safe" for white listeners; and borrowing (stealing?) from black musicians white audiences wouldn't listen to. His later position as a Christian conservative commentator did nothing to help this. In fact, Little Richard's "Long Tall Sally" was written to be a song that Pat Boone would never cover. It backfired.
  • For a period, Michael Bolton received so much bashing that "Kill Michael Bolton!" jokes practically became a Dead Horse Trope of their own. And Ryan Stiles from Whose Line Is It Anyway? continued to relentlessly make Bolton jokes even after his popularity had waned. Office Space can't have helped (Die, motherfucker, die, motherfucker, die!). Granted, that was the printer, but Michael has similar feelings about the musician.
  • The Wiggles has a hatedom consisting of older children and adults, mostly due to the fact that many of their songs are for younger children. Some also find the idea of men spending time with children creepy. (before the new, young members, including one woman, replaced the old ones)
  • Lady Gaga gets this, for many reasons by many different demographics, but, specifically, by non-camp males because of her over-the-top refusal to be "conventional". Despite frequent Pandering to the Base, people wonder why she's not so widely celebrated outside her obvious target demographic. Of course, given the calculated way she behaves and dresses "non-conventionally", it's almost like she's trying for this sort of reaction.
    • She also gets this because many believe she makes generic pop music and is only popular because of her image.
  • Rap music in general tends to inspire a generational divide between the MTV/BET-watching youth of its fans and their out-of-touch adult parents who take offense to its violent, misogynist themes, can't understand a word of the Ebonics-laden lyrics, and at worst are unsure if Rap is even music. Rap is even the preferred punching bag of older Black leaders who accuse/scapegoat it for promoting stereotypes and instilling in its listeners distorted messages about Black culture. It also has a MASSIVE hatedom amongst fans of classic rock, mainly because it's effectively replaced most genres of rock aside from alt-rock among the masses these days.
  • Time killed this when the original "MTV Generation" (who were teens during the '80s and early '90s) turned into parents, though it's still an issue for the older teens and young adults who are the children of the Baby Boomers (who were teens during the '60s and '70s, before rap became mainstream).
  • Reggaeton, being a derivative from rap and dance hall, also has got in Latin America a hatedom similar to the one towards rap, on the same demographics and for similar reasons. Although they also get fire from the elevate sexual content of several songs, which adds a lot of Moral Guardians of the Think of the Children! type to the hatedom.
  • All Black music has been prone to this. Jazz, R&B, and soul also had large Periphery Hatedoms in their time, but their hatedoms at least admitted that the main reason behind their loathing was the race of the musicians. Rap's detractors live in an era where that's not safe to say in public.
  • There's a substantial rivalry between metal and rap, though it's mostly one sided, since most rap fans are oblivious to it. This comes mostly from metal fans believing metal should be the biggest genre in the charts, and blame the popularity of rap for stopping this. They will lament the glory days of Nu Metal, but forget it was just as much a fad as anything else. (Ironically, when metal was at the peak of its popularity in The Eighties, it was in the incarnation of Hair Metal, which most of these critics also despise.) In actual fact, many metal fans like rap music and vice versa.
  • Crunk Core has the most storied Periphery Hatedom of any genre.
  • Kidz Bop, a series of covers of popular songs sung by little kids with more kid-appropriate lyrics. It is aimed at little kids, and universally despised and panned by everyone older than 10.
    • Music Space gives the series surprisingly good reviews, but these are mostly parents who bought the CDs for their kids, not to mention the site is directly connected to its record label, Razor & Tie. All other sites trash the series mercilessly.
  • Rebecca Black and Friday are, in some ways, the Justin Bieber of 2011. Subverted, as she still receives a more memetic kind of respect, while the hate for her music is channeled into positive ways, such as remixes and covers. And this "Brock's Dub" parody.
  • As white-hot as The Beatles were in the sixties, they weren't without their share of hatred. Some of it came from their target demographic, such as fans of other British Invasion groups such as Herman's Hermits and the Dave Clark Five or American groups like Frankie Valli And The Four Seasons. But much of it was from older adults who found their music to be more flash-in-the-pan disposable pop, and particularly, Moral Guardians (lampshaded in Allan Sherman's novelty tune "Pop Hates The Beatles"). Hatred from the latter would reach a fever pitch after John Lennon was quoted saying the Beatles were "more popular than Christ", prompting fundamentalist Christians to burn all Beatle memorabilia (Lennon would heavy-heartedly clarify, "I'm not saying we're better than Christ or greater than Christ. I'm just saying we're more popular.") But by the time the band had reached Revolver and Sgt. Pepper, though, showing that they were more than just "yeah yeah"s, even adults had to sit up and took notice, and they began to be seen as the musical pioneers they're known as today.
  • Elvis Presley is a pretty polarizing figure in Rock & Roll among blacks. Some are appreciative of the attention Elvis brought to the genre among the white community, creating openings for black artists. Others felt he had appropriated the genre to the detriment of black artists who had been doing it long before he did. Elvis gave credit many times to earlier black artists whose songs he covered (to a much greater degree than, say, The Rolling Stones or Led Zeppelin), but it didn't help that some of his fans believed he actually invented Rock & Roll. Elvis was also hated by some whites for being "too black", making him a Tragic Mulatto of sorts. And then, there were Moral Guardians who also hated his sound in general … and the fact that he swiveled his hips during his performances.
  • Harry Belafonte is a polarizing figure amongst fans of calypso music. Although he brought the music to the attention of an American audience, he's criticised for doing so by watering the music down and generally playing traditional songs, not competing in calypso tents, and crediting other people's songs to himself. However, Belafonte was in fact very respectful towards the musicians and the record company was mostly to blame for the credits issue. He did end up crediting them for his songs. He signed so many calypso artists to RCA that they started a Trinidad division, and he paid them well.
  • Celine Dion got a fair bit of this, principally in the wake of Titanic's epicness, but as her profile has diminished in the ensuing years, so has the hate.
  • Country Music:
    • In general. Most people who claim to "hate" country seem to hold it entirely to many Southern stereotypes which are far from universal, and have probably never listened to actual mainstream country.
    • Music made after the early 1990s, in the eyes of classic country fans and more specifically, purists. Major complaints include the sound and the artistry being little more than bad pop/adult contemporary/arena rock music that has little to no resemblance to country music made prior to the 1980s, and the newer artists getting favor while classic artists who continued to write, record and release new material — including but not limited to Merle Haggard, George Jones, Loretta Lynn and dozens of others — began to be ignored by radio and ultimately, the mainstream media. Since rural America has gone from poor to rich, the shift is understandable but still disturbing to some. Meanwhile, younger fans frequently find the classic sounds and music recorded by such pioneers as Kitty Wells, Hank Williams, Webb Pierce and others outdated, unrefined, unrelatable and unlistenable.
  • In several countries, folkloric music, either from the own or from their neighboring countries, by people who are more into "mainstream" music (read: rock and pop). For example, at one time in Venezuela there is the trifecta hate from people of the capital and neighboring cities towards joropo (because of being perceived as backwards music from country simpletons, and for having been used as a filler during a period of obligatory 1:1 ratio of imported/local music), Zulian gaita (because of saturation of the airwaves on Christmas time and extreme regional thematic) and vallenato (because of its association with Colombian immigration, often stereotyped as criminals and violent bus drivers who like to play music in their vehicles on an ear-damaging volume).
  • Soulja Boy managed to get this from three demographics — Veteran rappers (most notably Ice-T) and their fans who felt his simple "how to do a dance" raps were ruining the genre, anime fans who were horrified by his terribly ill-informed attempt to make a song about how he was an anime fan himself, and ironically, actual soldiers. Why the last? A song called "Let's Be Real," wherein he brags about how he got rich with his DIY approach to music and says "Fuck all the army troops."
  • Dub Step, a genre summed up by Abandon Kansas frontman Jeremy Springs as "the disco of now." Think about that for a second...

    Professional Wrestling 
  • Professional Wrestling itself. See the Deader Than Disco page for more.
  • A number of old school fans in general also have expressed dislike for current day wrestling in general, due to adult-themed storylines, use of foul language, scantily clad female performers, male-on-female violence, the prevalence of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs, and wrestlers who have little to no actual wrestling skill and/or respect for the sport in general. A few intensely hate wrestlers and other performers who are primarily used to attract children but have no or less appeal to traditional fans (also due to said performers usually having limited skills and/or given cartoonish, over-the-top gimmicks). Others, especially some veteran performers, have been distressed at the breaking of kayfabe and revelation of the sport's inner workings, while others have criticized the demise of the territorial wrestling setup. Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Entertainment has gotten a large share of the blame for all of this.
  • Old school WWE fans (and many Attitude Era fans) seem to particularly loathe the character of Hornswoggle, whose matches border on slapstick comedy and seem to exist for the sole reason of attracting the attention of small children. The Great Khali is a similar example.
  • Characters regarded as overbooked supermen, primary and most controversial example being John Cena. Randy Orton and Sheamus are examples as well.
  • Many male fans find the Divas' matches boring. Well, unless you're at the event, you don't have to watch them - and even if you are, you could just go to the bathroom or get a hot dog. The arguments tend to stem from: the matches are too badly fought to entertain "purists", and the girls aren't slutty enough to drag in the "letches", so they usually end up in the "meh" zone.
  • Purists resent the fact the WWE has no real interests in making a legitimate female division, and find the current iteration of the Diva division to be reeking of Unfortunate Implications. That and the fact they insist on hiring models instead of athletes. TNA has started to get the same complaints as well. There are also disenfranchised Diva fans who remember its short Golden Age in the early 2000s, when the Divas started to get serious about wrestling, starting with Lita and, unfortunately, Trish Stratus.
  • A different set of purists who will hold a former model's past career against her even if she becomes a good wrestler. Others will get this even when they've never done modelling before. Trish Stratus herself experienced this early on and had to start taking chair shots to shake off the haters. Kelly Kelly is an example as many people will read her name in a match and automatically label it as bad without even bothering to watch it. A lot of this might be due to the perception that the female championship has been cheapened since 2007 by putting it on a revolving door of Divas instead of having mainstays like it once did. There's also the argument that certain Divas get much more attention than they deserve, at the expense of Divas who are at least as good. Take Torrie Wilson, Stacy Keibler, and Jackie Gayda, for instance. They weren't the best in the ring, but they at least entered WWE with some wrestling experience. Yet they barely got near the Women's Championship, much less won it, and all too quickly saw their careers slide into irrelevance. Considering that, how fair is it that Kelly Kelly comes to WWE with no wrestling experience and gradually takes over the entire division, much like Trish had a few years before?

    Sports 
  • Golf. From those who aren't fans, it's regarded as monotonous, luck-based, aristocratic, unathletic (since some people just drive carts to wherever the ball is instead of walking), and associated with square old rich people in clown pants. Even if you don't use a cart, it's widely not considered to be particularly "athletic". Dave Barry once discussed it by breaking down the calories burned into various categories like "sauntering," "squinting," and "saying things like 'You certainly did double bogey that mashie niblick, Ted! Ha ha!'" For ironic points, in order to combat the idea that golf isn't athletic, there are rules regarding the use of carts on the pro-circuit, mainly that unless you can prove beyond reasonable doubt (seriously, you jump though a ridiculous amount of hoops) you can't walk the distance involved, you walk the course. This leads to many people, who happen to catch a few minutes of golf on TV, to question why the players don't just ride in the carts to help speed the slow game up. Its image as the pastime of the classist, privileged elite (despite the highly contrarian face of the sport) certainly does not help matters.
  • Sailing.
  • Equestrian sports. Like sailing, they're generally perceived as elitist and upper class.
  • Cricket, especially as it takes day to complete what is called a "test match". In the reverse though, the faster 20Twenty variant that intends to make the game relevant for the Internet generation is cited by traditional cricket fans as the sullying of the sport.
  • Motor sports in general. They are perceived as boorish, lower class, anti-intellectual sports which are dangerous, waste fuel, and pollute the environment.
  • NASCAR, for detracting the athletic element from sports for part of it; and its common association with rednecks for the other.
  • Cardio kickboxing is one of the biggest crazes among fitness aficionados and shows no sign of dying down, but it continues to get a lot of hate from formal practitioners of martial arts for diluting the practice. While many pioneers of the craze, such as Billy Blanks and Chalene Johnson, are in fact, legitimate martial artists, the fact that people started becoming instructors with no formal background means they risk teaching bad form to students that not only distracts them from effective fighting techniques should they ever need to defend themselves, but actually runs the risk of students hurting themselves doing the moves as exercise.
  • Competitive kickboxing has gotten hatred from some Moral Guardians. The most common accusations is that it has stripped martial arts of their once-typical hallmark of restraint and peaceful ideals, and turned the whole ordeal into a spectator sport dedicated to feeding the audience's love for violence. John McCain called it "human cockfighting." However, again, the opposition has done little to dampen the enthusiasm of its fans.
  • Sumo wrestling; usually because it epitomizes Hard Gay to some people, and to others because it inspires a lot of "fat-men-in-diapers" jokes. If you see any depiction of this sport outside Japan, it is likely to be parodic in nature.
  • Cheerleading, due to the amount of negative stereotypes associated with cheerleaders and because it is a stereotypically female sport (a criticism often raised by feminists, ironically enough). Many will even deny that it is a sport, when in fact it requires mastery of a great many physical challenges and is actually more dangerous than most of the "jockier" sports.
  • The NBA attracts its fair share of hatedom from "purists" or old school fans who feel the league has been over-commercialized or because of the lower scoring of this era, over-empathetic on defense, hockey fans who feel the media focuses too heavily on basketball at the expense of their favorite sport, and racists who find the NBA to be a convenient way to side-vent their prejudices (if the person uses the word "thug" or any variation in describing why they don't like the NBA, they're usually fall under the last category).
  • Ice hockey, which is perceived as violent, dangerous and lionizing negative masculine stereotypes.
  • Football (soccer for Americans), because of a reputation for violent, riot-happy fans and whiny, injuring-faking players.

    Tabletop Games 
  • Players of tabletop role playing games, sometimes referred to as games "with dice that have more than six sides", such as The World of Darkness, or Dungeons & Dragons, or Warhammer 40,000 (also including some card-based ones, the most famous of which is probably Magic: The Gathering), will be assumed to be antisocial losers. The reverse is also true just as often, with detractors generally seen as antisocial soap opera watchers. Unsurprisingly, one of the most common and well-known perpetrators of this attitude are hardcore video game players.
  • Monopoly itself gets a lot of hate from the Euro-gamer and "serious" board-gamer crowd. There are also some, both left-wing and right-wing, who know the original game was intended as a scathing satire on capitalism (though it was really only accurate to the late-19th century, pre-antitrust Robber Baron era). Right-wingers don't like it for having been a leftist caricature of a market economy, and leftists don't like that it's now one of the biggest mass-marketed corporate products ever. Board-gamers don't like it because hardly anyone actually plays it by the real rules, and "house rules" generally tend to drag out the game past the point where it stops being fun. That's bad enough, but it's also so ubiquitous that board-gamers (with some justification) fear anyone hearing "board game" is likely to first think "Monopoly" and then "I'd rather have root canal without anesthetics."

    Theatre 

    Toys 
  • Whatever the designate "hot toy" of Christmas is. There seemed to be an exceptional amount of hate towards the Furby in particular because it just wouldn't shut up.
  • The Cabbage Patch Kids dolls were also pitched as a Christmas must-have and particularly reviled by people who were sick of seeing them everywhere. Film director Don Mancini was one of these people. His response? Chucky.
  • Beanie Babies, although most of the hate was directed at the Periphery Demographic of housewives who stored them in glass boxes as collectibles, not the little kids who just wanted to play with them as toys. Then again, there were also a lot of parents sick of shelling out so much money for the things. Even the people who delivered Beanie Babies to retailers (often UPS employees) hated them due to being constantly harassed by collectors asking if they had any of the new releases. A semi-famous urban legend even stated that said delivery people had to wear tags that said "Please Don't Ask If We Have Beanie Babies" just so they wouldn't get harassed.
  • Polly Pocket, from the little boys for whom they were never intended.
  • Remember Tickle-Me-Elmo? People donated to be the driver of a bulldozer that ran one over, and sold thousands of tickets to a front row seats of said event. There's a video of one of the more advanced models being burned to a crisp. While still turned on. It's rather disturbing.
    • MADtv did a parody with "Tickle Me Emo".
    • Cory Doctorow's novel Makers features "Boogie Woogie Elmo", millions of which were destined for landfills. The titular makers use the sophisticated hardware and robotic capabilities in novel ways.
    • Parodied in Season Two of the episodic Sam & Max: Freelance Police games with "Torture Me Elmer", a toy which children were encouraged to mistreat. There's a minigame where a vast spill of them has littered the roadways, and you need to clear them off by running them over. There's a certain sadistic hilarity in hearing them beg for mercy.
    • Jhonen Vasquez has a Meanwhile comic about "Tickle Me Hellmo", which has 20 levels of response. They include shooting fire ants, calling Satan to stare at the child at night, and reciting goth poetry.
  • Name any kind of gender-specified toy. Boys were supposed to play with stuff like Tinker Toys, soldiers, sports toys, and toy weapons. Girls were supposed to play with dolls, playhouses, kitchen utensils, and pretend-telephones. Watch as the girls think the boys' stuff is stupid while the boys think the girls' stuff is stupid without any reason. Watch any child who averts this get labeled as gay without any reason.
  • Pinkification (colouring all girls' toys in bright pink) has a broad hatedom outside its core demographic.
  • Hero Factory for many BIONICLE fans, mostly since the sets and story don't cater to a Periphery Demographic in the same way its predecessor did. Bionicle itself has this in the form of thousands of adult fans of LEGO.
  • Barbie.
    • Just about everyone loves to write all sorts of long essays about how she's "a freak of nature" and a "walking stereotype of what a woman is supposed to be" (somehow ignoring Barbie appearing in countless white collar or even blue-collar jobs), and people often refuse to buy their daughters or relatives Barbie dolls for fear that a doll will somehow instill a negative body image in them. (Like the doll itself is the sole cause in the first place, as lampshaded in Baby Blues.) Ask around the internet and you'll probably find a lot of people, even girls (especially girls), who decapitated and mutilated Barbie dolls when they were little. Barbie is a stereotype of what a woman is supposed to be. Just a different stereotype: specifically, some kind of blonde, tanned, superwoman.
    • If you were a boy and played with a Barbie doll, then you immediately had to transfer schools. Unless, that is, you did stuff like strap her to a model rocket and attempted to launch her into outer space or did all sorts of violent acts to her such as dropping a bowling ball on her or trying to melt her with a magnifying glass. (It's amazing how, with all those supposed studies that linked Barbie dolls to girls with poor body image, nobody has seen if there's a link in boys between destroying Barbie dolls and domestic violence toward women.)
  • The Bratz doll line received lots of complaints. Like Barbie, a lot of them were from people concerned about its target demographic of little girls, and even more so given the Bratz dolls' revealing clothes and thick make-upped expressions. However, there were, once again, a lot of boys (and older or tomboyish girls) who just liked making fun of things little girls liked.
  • Not specific toys in particular, but there is a hatred people have towards those who collect toys or even still play with them well into their adulthood.
  • Toys made for adults (No, not those kind of "toys") fall under this as well. Misaimed Marketing doesn't help either.
  • Any "As Seen On TV" type toy falls under this. Partially because they never work as advertised. And, partially because kids tend to constantly beg their parents for it, driving said parents crazy. It doesn't help that said toy advertisements tend to play an obnoxious amount of times. Many reviews of "As Seen On TV" toys on Amazon.com reflect this. Said reviews tell of how the parent's child (or children) begged them for the toy in question, the parent buying them said toy, and then either the toy not working or the child/children becoming bored quickly of the toy.
  • Any toy that makes sound that's aimed for young kids. Kids love the noises and will repeatedly press the button that makes them, which will drive any adults or older children in the room mad. A common rule parents set when anyone goes to buy a gift for their kid is to not get anything that makes noise. This often prompts the grandparents or the in-laws to get it instead because they don't have to live with them. This is mocked in a strip of Baby Blues where Wanda looks over a toy that makes noise that's called "Grandma's revenge", as well as in a Dennis Leary routine.
    • There is supposedly a Chinese proverb: "If thy enemy wrong thee, buy each of his children a drum."

    Video Games 
  • Some fans of Street Fighter II will complain about every other fighting game that exists. If it is a 2D one, they'll blame it for being a clone. If it is a 3D one, they will blame it for being a 'button masher'. It's gotten to the point where games that are much more complex than Street Fighter are looked down on by fans. The truth is that the Nostalgia Filter comes into play. In later years, Street Fighter IV has become this, with every new incarnation of Tekken or Soul Calibur being compared unfavorably to it despite being largely different in gameplay.
  • Mortal Kombat. Most of the vitriol directed at that game when it debuted in late 1992 came from panicky Moral Guardians and people who would have never played the game in a million years.
  • It's very difficult to find anything but a savage, snarky, sarcastic review of any game geared towards young girls, particularly if said title is unfortunate enough to involve Barbie, the Olsen Twins, or some other stereotypically girly franchise.
  • E-rated games that are not Kirby, Mario, Pokémon, or something else that is well known, get this from older players.
  • Pokémon got plenty of this during the initial craze's heyday, and you'd still be hard-pressed to find an enthusiastic fan who wasn't a preteen or younger when it first came out. Also, some fans of the earliest games, known as GENWUNNERSnote , can have this towards some incarnations of the game. Chalk it up to a combination of They Changed It, Now It Sucks, Nostalgia Filternote  and this trope, from aging out of the intended demographic. While the games have more universal appeal than, say, the anime, they're still made primarily with kids in mind, although from 2013 onwards the franchise has been reinventing itself as an "all-ages" franchise similar to Super Mario Bros. itself rather than a franchise mostly for young children.
  • Super Mario Bros. and Kirby themselves, as well as Pokémon and other similar series, get this treatment from fans of "dark, gritty" series such as Halo and Call of Duty, who dismiss Nintendo's series as being too cheery and kiddy. But these fans are often kids themselves, in the mature series' own Periphery Demographic, who complain about things that they perceive as "babyish" because they think it's cool.
  • Microsoft 3D Movie Maker has McZee, a weird blue guy who really wants to be Barney-but-wackier. He's pretty horrible, and the exclusion of him as a poseable character is about the only reason the first four thousand fan-made movies weren't all "McZee dies in horrible ways".
  • The Nintendo Wii is a bit of an inversion. Once Nintendo finally did what they had promised to do and expanded console video games outside the 18-24 Affluent Male market, said market declared them the anti-Christ. Even Nintendo's continued development of "traditional" gamesnote  hasn't silenced the hatedom one bit. Of course, the rest of the market seems not to have noticed (much to the chagrin of the 18-24 Affluent one). Among the platform's games, the worst sufferers of this were of course the "expanded market" games themselves: Nintendo's "Wii Series" games directed towards non-gamers such as Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and others. During the late 2000s, they were a gigantic fad that outsold and were played more than most other games by a huge margin, causing the 18-24 Affluent Male market to declare gaming ruined and fear for its senior-citizen-and-soccer-mom-ruled future. However, as the fad has died, so has the hate.
    • This hatedom has actually had an impact on Nintendo's sales. 2 years after the Wii U has been out on the market, the industry itself has declared that it still hasn't done anything to make it a "Must Own" system worthy of comparison to the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One... or even the PS3 and 360.
  • Axl from the Mega Man X series is a bit of an odd case. While he's pretty much universally despised by the series' main fanbase, the small but dedicated Periphery Demographic of young women just can't seem to resist his boyish charm.
  • Hardcore gamers seem determined to hate casual and/or social games. Game Informer has called titles like Farmville unexciting compared to big budget games and accused them of being marketing tools. Given that the creator of Farmville has openly said the game is nothing more than a Skinner box, the accusation that it's a marketing tool is just about dead-on.
  • PC gaming magazines have been knocking consoles for years. Consoles are generally designed for gamers who want less complexity. However, there's tons of overlap, so it's really a case of a Vocal Minority of purists.
  • Any RPG, except Dragon Quest. The "only nerds play them" consensus has led them to be an example of Not Allowed to Like It. One of the prime victims is World of Warcraft.
  • Western RPGs tend to get a lot of hatred as well, especially Action RPG games, which critics tend to complain that "the action ruins the RPG elements". Not to mention, in an ironic inversion to the above, this genre also has a hatedom for having real-time combat and being too gritty.
  • Final Fantasy Mystic Quest tends to attract hatred from people who believe the urban legend that it was why the USA didn't get Final Fantasy V (or why Europe didn't get any Final Fantasy game) until the PlayStation years, as well as the fact that it was actually made specifically to introduce people to RPGs. However, being a Super Nintendo game, it does have a fanbase thanks to the Nostalgia Filter, as well as how some people actually did play that game as an introduction to the RPG-genre. This tends to overlap with Love It or Hate It.
  • Any of the big console shooter franchises draw plenty of flak from players who dislike FPSes, PC gamers, and fans of older styles of shooters. The Call of Duty and Halo series may be the most common victims, but they are not alone. First-person shooters are also frequent scapegoats of people who hold the assumption that their fandom of "cerebral" games such as Silent Hill somehow makes them more intelligent than the primates who play Call of Duty, et. al.
    • Which makes for a very strange inverted hatedom in retrospect, as until the past decade or so you basically had to have a PC if you wanted to play an FPS due to the limitations of the consoles of the day. Still, even modern consoles' limitations—such as the ever-present gamepad vs. mouse—are picked apart by PC gamers, sometimes deemed as reasons why FPS game design has been dumbed down since the mid-'00s.
    • The major pet peeve was that on the side of the FPS crowd, they hated it for how it monopolized shooters into a single uniform genre with very little deviation (Iron Sights/Regnerating Health and Cutscene Incompetence). For the others, they see the shooters as completely strangulating what creativity is left in the industry as game developers are crushed by publishers for not living up to their flagship franchise standards.
  • Sonic the Werehog from Sonic Unleashed. Kids love him, most fans who left Sonic's intended demographic hate him.
    • Cream the Rabbit, too. Beloved by moe fans for her deliberate cuteness, despised by the older Sonic fans for having a submissive attitude contrary to the defiant one around which the series was built. This is a case of Americans Hate Tingle, however — Cream was designed around Japanese fans, who enjoy her Yamato Nadeshiko traits, and was never meant to be embraced in the west, whereas characters like Blaze the Cat fall more in line of likable female characters outside of Asia.
    • The entire Sonic the Hedgehog franchise got a Periphery Hatedom, including from some of its older fans, though it has less to do with them growing out of it and more with it deviating from what they knew. Those who were never fans tend to regard it as the realm of unnecessary characters that inspire lame fancharacters and Rule34 artists.
  • EA tried to exploit this with their "Your Mom hates Dead Space 2" marketing campaign. It didn't exactly work; the intended market responded with "Thanks a lot for casting us all as immature jerks. It's not like games don't have trouble with that perception already." It seemed to completely miss gaming's shift in demographics, as explained below.
  • Video games in general fell into this category when they became popular during the '80s and '90s. In many cases, there was a notable divide between the children who enjoyed playing them and parents who felt they distracted them from doing more constructive things. Since many of today's parents grew up with them, however, this is a dying trope.
  • The Rochelle character in Left 4 Dead 2 gathered a ton of hate for simply not being like Zoey (personality, looks, etc), even though Rochelle was not meant to be a copy of Zoey.
  • The Nintendo 2DS, which removes the clamshell and 3D features and sells at a lower price than the original 3DS, has received a fair number of complaints from adult and teenage gamers, despite being designed as an 'entry-level' system for children.note 
  • The Console Wars are a recurring example: Those who pick one side have no desire to try anything from the other sides.

    Web Originals 
  • User Friendly especially seems to provoke unnecessary anger outside of its narrow IT professional demographic.
  • Any long running, successful. niche-audience webcomic, such as PvP, Penny Arcade, or Megatokyo.
  • Furry webcomics get a ton of flak from non-furries. Note that this does not apply to the hatedom of comics such as VG Cats which are intended to read by non-furries as well.
  • Homestuck has a pretty substantial one, largely due to the fandom just one day suddenly showing up and invading anime cons in cosplay like an infestation of cockroaches, despite Homestuck not being an anime. Homestuck cosplay is outright banned from several smaller anime cons for substantially justifiable reasonsnote  and is considered the primary reason cosplay was banned at TCAF, a dedicated webcomic con. Otherwise, it's sometimes seen as a Love to Hate series often used as a punchline for a crazy fandom, similar to My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. It doesn't help anyone's case that the creator of the series himself won't allow for a dedicated Homestuck convention to exist.
  • PewDiePie, a name that froths more bile among YouTube viewers than any other. His manchildish image, his focus on visceral reactions over humorous dialogue, his constant barrage of over-the-top screams, extreme excess focus on quantity-over-quality when it comes to content, and pretty much all manner of his personality come together into something that puts off almost everyone outside of his tremendously large fanbase to incorrigible degrees.
  • Let's Players in general tend to get a lot of hate. Especially from youtube ranters who believe that their videos are an abominable waste of time. Of course, it's often popular Let's Players like PewDiePie who get bashed by them; in his case, it's because apparently he's a manipulative money whore.
  • It is as yet unclear what demographic C.W. Chandler was aiming for when he created Sonichu, but it probably wasn't intended for the folks at Encyclopedia Dramatica and 4chan who have trashed it.

    Western Animation 
  • Mickey Mouse Clubhouse has earned mixed reviews from critics and Disney fans alike for putting their mascot and co. into a toddler show, but it's many people on social networks who have a deep hate for it that tend to be more vocal about it. The fact that Disney still goes along making new episodes for this show does NOT help matters, nor does the fact that they market Mickey's Clubhouse incarnation more aggressively than his earlier, more Periphery Demographic-friendly appearances.
  • Caillou: Those jokes about him having cancer/being bald from chemotherapy speak volumes. Parents make up only a small percentage of haters here — much, much more of the hatedom comes from high school students who simply hate the show for being slow.
  • The Smurfs, which had all of the hatred of people who never watched it a good decade before Barney did.
    • One defunct site even pointed out various chilling similarities while comparing The Smurfs to the KKK, though most haters usually compare them to communists instead.
  • Dora the Explorer: Particularly to those who hate being treated like they have the memory of a goldfish. note 
    • Dora hate is played with in Sherman's Lagoon; the titular shark, a middle-aged male, loves the show because he's just that stupid.
    • Saturday Night Live's parody.
    • Adam Lanza, the man behind the Sandy Hook shooting, was one of the haters of the show, and made a parody called Dora the Berzerker in response.
    • Blues Clues, another pioneer of participation-based Edutainment, gets some of this, although less than Dora because of teens and adults' liking of human narrator Steve's Adorkable charm.
    • Dora is a frequent parody target amongst Go Animate, along with Caillou.
  • Dragon Tales, due to Ord's incessant whining and the somewhat Sugar Bowl environment that is Dragon Land. And oh, some religions cite dragons as evil, which is why there is a (negative) trope named after them. However, it's starting to get a following.
    • Another reason for so many people hating it is because many people feel that, for a show about magical fire-breathing dragons, the series is surprisingly lacking in fantasy-based adventure. It doesn't help that many of the things the dragons do in the show (IE: go to school, learn to ride bikes, etc.) would be things you'd expect to see in a show about regular people, not dragons.
  • VeggieTales: Part of it is because of the vandalism caused by fans of the show to random pages on The Other Wiki, and spammers who love that show so much that they use clips of it to plug their "Super Duper Video Converter". But there's a fair amount of hate from non-Christians, too, for being a religious show for young kids (though there is a Periphery Demographic among the same segment too). Veggie Tales tends to have enough Parental Bonus (in the form of pop cultural references — e.g., the French peas guarding the wall of Jericho) to avoid the "babyish" criticism, though.
  • Hopla is bashed for its Limited Animation and boring set-up despite being for infants. (Another case of "Just because it's for kids, it doesn't mean you can half-ass it.")
  • A good deal of the very vocal internet bashers of Squirrel Boy seem to be very much outside the show's intended demographic. Notably, they keep comparing it to Duckman (also created by Everett Peck), which obviously had a much older target audience.
  • Little Einsteins is hated by exactly five schools of people: those who can't stand the inanity or shallowness of the story, those who don't like being treated like they have the memory of a goldfish, those who can't stand them shoehorning silly lyrics onto classical melodies, those who don't believe the claims made by the producers of the series that your child will end up smarter than Steven Hawking just for watching the series, and longtime Playhouse Disney/Disney Junior fans who miss the shows of the block's early days There are also people who hate it due to it bouncing back and forth between treating its target audience (children) like they are smarter than they look and treating them like they have the IQ of a potato. One moment the characters could give an (albeit extremely simplified) explanation on escape velocity, and the next they could ask the kids at home if they can count to three.
  • Super Why! has a very strong hatedom. Many parents don't like the Viewers Are Morons plotlines, and fairy tale fans hate the Disneyfication of the fairy tales presented to the point of being politically correct.
  • Toopy And Binoo, a Canadian preschool show, has seen complaints from moms and parent groups due to the title characters' frequent crossdressing and use of the word "fabulous", leading said moms/parent groups to believe that the characters are Camp Gay and are presenting an underhanded homosexual agenda.note 
  • Fanboy and Chum Chum. If you check out a thread asking for opinions on the Nickelodeon message boards for this show, they'll range from good to mediocre. IMDb and the tv.com website provides us with much more insightful, though, to say the least, critical reviews. Also, anything that's not an actual episode of the show, but, for example, the intro or some fan videos on YouTube will be literally flooded with hate comments. It has its fans, though.


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