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Administrivia: Permanent Red Link Club

There are some pages that have been permanently etched into the annals of TV Tropes history by being removed and then locked, so that they may never return. Take this as a sign that not only should you not use these phrases, you shouldn't even use the writing styles that led to these phrases. See Zero Context Example for examples of phrases that didn't get pages, but are just as bad.

Pages that have been cut since April 2011 are autolocked to prevent people from overriding the cutlist. This page is only for the ones that we don't want coming back ever. If it isn't on this listnote , you can ask here for an unlock.

To see a list of pages that were locked but not removed, go to Locked Pages. See also the list of Recent Cuts, not all of which become members of this club.

Note: Not all of these examples will be locked. That's normal. We have to unlock some to avoid a cluttered lock list. We trust you in this case.
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    Pages cut and locked for reducing the overall quality of the wiki 
There are Verbal Tics and Overused Running Gags, and then there are these. These are former tropes that were deleted outright for being so misused by having potholes to these pages sprinkled around this wiki on pages for no reason other than perhaps to be funny.

  • Did Not Do the Research: Intended as an index for research failure, it attracted lots of misuse as a way of pointing out a research mistake in a work. It was merged with other indexes and christened the Inaccuracies Index for a few days, until it was determined that we don't need that either. These tropes are now listed at Consistency, under "Lack of External Consistency".
  • I Am Not Making This Up: Originally created for how fans react to crazy plot twists and the like, it was used as a pothole for absolutely anything that was even the slightest bit outlandish, as if it would make it read as a bit of incredibly hilarious and awesome escapism. Instead, it became a grating Catch Phrase (appearing on over 2,500 pages at its peak) that made This Very Wiki look like idiots with an incredibly low threshold of disbelief. Not only were all links to it changed to be permanently red regardless of stylesheet, all instances of the phrase were automatically deleted from the wiki, leaving blank spots where it used to be. In-Universe examples were moved to "Not Making This Up" Disclaimer. Since this is TV Tropes, you don't need to say this; since even Reality Is Unrealistic, there's no reason not to believe such things happened. Not to mention, it's usually better to link to the proof that you're not making it up.
    • No Really: One of many redirects to the above, and even without that it violates TV Tropes' policy about in-site Verbal Tics.
  • Please Elaborate: Poorly written examples should be rewritten or, failing that, outright deleted, not compounded with more useless junk that also acts as natter.
  • Pretty Cool Guy: A meme that was overly redundant and did nothing but encourage meaningless potholes.
  • So Yeah: Used as a Verbal Tic as an excuse to never finish a sentence. Compounded by its small size making it incredibly easy to Pot Hole, this "trope" infected examples across the wiki like herpes, appearing on over 4,000 pages at its peak.

    Deliberate redlink 
A small collection of articles actually do still exist, but the titles have been carefully tweaked to appear red. Like the above, this is a subtle hint that users should not be linking to it (at all) in trope articles, but the articles themselves are just useful enough to keep around for future reference. Most are redirects to a page that has been moved, with the old title kept around to keep inbound links working and to help find and change any remaining wicks.

  • It Got Worse and It Gets Worse: The trope was defined as "a terrible situation getting some final perfect push over the edge". It attracted massive sinkholes and misuse. Renamed to From Bad to Worse.
  • No. Just... No: Originally created for a character's reaction to a Squicky moment or a highly disagreeable statement, it got misused as a pothole for editors inserting their own reaction to what was in other trope examples. In-Universe examples were moved to "No. Just... No" Reaction.
  • Or Is It?: Was supposed to be an Ending Trope, but it rapidly degenerated into a troper Catch Phrase. Now known as The End... Or Is It?.
  • Sliding Scale of Anti-Heroes: One of the most problematic of the Sliding Scales. It was eventually made a redirect to Analysis.Anti Hero and the scale was broken into distinct tropes.
  • This Troper: The page itself has always said to avoid using first-person writing (the phrase being a euphemism for "me" or "I"), but people linking to it either didn't read the article, or simply rebelled against it. Even in designated areas, it's usually better to Pot Hole it to the contributor page...even if you don't have a contributor page. Better yet, avoid talking about yourself at all.
  • X, Just...X: The former name for Zero Context Example. Despite strong warnings on the page against its use as a Pot Hole, contributors continued to use it.

    Main namespace Darth Wiki and Sugar Wiki redirects 
Due to heated complaining and gushing involving these on the main wiki, as well as unnecessary Pot Holing involving them, we discourage linking to these Darth Wiki and Sugar Wiki tropes and pages outside of those areas. These articles should be treated the same way as deliberate redlinks. Their main page redirects were cut and locked to discourage tropers from using them as such. If you desperately want to see what's inside, use the history button on the page or view a cache.

    Misused trope name 
Sometimes when we rename a trope, the original name has to be deleted if the misuse was really bad.

    Pages locked for being cut then recreated 
In the past, cut pages had a habit of reappearing very quickly, usually due to tropers simply being unaware why the page had been deleted, though sometimes as part of a trolling effort. This eventually led to the current practice of locking all cut pages, but the following pages were locked prior to this.

    Pages cut and locked due to being nothing but complaining 
Becoming a platform for actively complaining about anyone or anything is basically the worst sin any page on this wiki can commit, short of being created expressly for the purpose of trolling and/or conveying hate speech. With the exception of a few Darth Wiki pages which exist as carefully monitored outlets for this sort of thing, any such page is nuked with extreme prejudice.

  • Ann Coulter and Jack Thompson: The pages were simply being used to insult these individuals due to their controversial stances. Since they are neither creators nor tropes, and the only useful content on the pages being In-Universe parodies and mockeries of these individuals; which are better off placed in Moral Guardians, having pages for them added little.
  • Citation Needed: Poorly defined and was nothing but a Take That at one of Wikipedia's main policies. Considering the "There Is No Such Thing As Notability" rule here in TV Tropes, citations aren't necessary for the most part here.
  • Cookie Cutter Cuties: Was nothing more than a rant about the looks of Hollywood actresses.
  • CN Real: Was originally about the programming block, but became a major complaint magnet for those who disapproved of Cartoon Network’s Network Decay. Fortunately, the problem worked itself out with the channel's "rehabilitation" into quality shows again. Unfortunately, a fresh crop of gripes arises every time a live-action show hits the scene of the network. Guess what pages always got hit when fans complained?
  • Cute Kids and Robots: Was originally intended to discuss the ubiquitousness of these in children's shows, which was pretty pointless since children's shows by definition feature a lot of children. Instead it rapidly became used as a method of complaining about their use in mainstream works, which was not desirable on any level.
  • CWC: Short for Christian Weston Chandler, whom the page was solely created to insult. His works get enough bile as-is.
  • DarthWiki.Dethroning Music Of Suck: Meant for unintended Soundtrack Dissonance, but kept being misused as bad music or music that tropers didn't like.
  • Depressing Tropes: Unlike Sadness Tropes, which is about tropes intended to cause sadness, it was any trope that tropers found even remotely depressing.
  • Detractor Nickname: Redirected to Fan Nickname. Had no purpose aside from complaining and name-slinging.
  • Fred Durst and Tim Buckley: As they only created one work, the pages were redundant with Limp Bizkit and Ctrl+Alt+Del (respectively) and had no purpose beyond Creator Bashing.
  • Handle This Index With Care: Meant for tropes that carried Unfortunate Implications, but tropers were adding too many tropes that had only the faintest connections to that page. Unfortunate Implications being a YMMV concept also made a defined criteria for the list extremely hard to pin down, anyway.
  • License To Whine: Tropes with issues of people complaining about it should be cleaned up in the dedicated cleanup thread or taken to Trope Repair Shop, not compounded with more useless junk and natter.
  • Lickspittle: Even after an Example Sectionectomy, it was deemed an unnecessary page. We do not need a page for fan-bashing. There wasn't any point in allowing fictional examples either, as Yes Man already fills that role.
  • Microsoft and Microsoft Windows: Computer Wars debaters simply couldn't resist the temptation to use these pages to troll and rant about the company and the OS. Since the Xbox and the Xbox 360 are the only Microsoft products within the purview of this wiki, a page for the company itself adds little.
  • Certain subpages of Sonichu and Asperchu: A flood of complaining following the lock and cleanup of the former.
  • Synthesizeritis: Started out as a way of bashing the composition of certain synthesizer-heavy works. That was already against the guidelines of this wiki, but before long people were using it to complain about any work that uses synthesized music instead of orchestral music, leading to its deletion.
  • Tainted By The Fanbase: Contained all the whiny, factionalistic, nerd-rage examples that Fan Dumb would have if it allowed examples.
  • True Art Is Complex, True Art Is Foreign, True Art Is Offensive, True Art Is Realistic, True Art Sticks It To The Man: All of these were based upon various types of anti-intellectual strawmen. This led to frequent whining both about works acclaimed as pieces of art and about an unspecified cabal of elitist critics who label such works art. The other True Art pages had to be curated and refocused on in-universe examples only.
  • DarthWiki.Ultimate Troll Entry: While clever at first, it started getting tedious, unoriginal, unfunny entries... along with genuinely offensive comments not being done For the Lulz.
  • Uwe Boll: Simply having this on the wiki was attracting trolling, and as he is neither an actor nor an author, we are missing only a list of his films by not having an article on him.

    Overly-controversial pages/soapboxes 
Let's just say the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement exists here for a reason.

  • Abu Ghraib: A controversial Real Life prison which only attracted Flame Wars and Misplaced Nationalism, is neither a trope nor a work, and the article was pretty much a stub.
  • Busy Street: The page was locked after a heated argument between multiple parties, and eventually cut when the subject in question underwent a drastic overhaul, causing complications that made it not worth keeping the page up.
  • DarthWiki.Complain About Shows You Dont Like: Topic drift from shows to social, political, and religious targets along with racial slurs and constant back-and-forth between fans and haters. Let's just say things got nasty very quickly.
  • Dueling Musicians: Caused too much edit warring and debates over who is the "better" artist.
  • Encyclopedia Dramatica: The page was very biased against the site and its members, attracting all manner of negative attention from them. No other efforts stopped this, and we have no interest in Tempting Fate here.
  • Flaming Fruit Vendors And Angry Arabs: Intended to be a page on the Arab Spring, it was cut due to its insensitive name and excessive use of "recent" examples due to how soon into the movement the page was made. We have a better page for the Arab Spring now.
  • Narm.New Media: Most of the entries went way overboard, descending into outright attacking and name-calling rather than just describing moments of failed drama. Combined with a massive amount of edit-warring, it became obvious that this page was just too troublesome to be left alive.
  • Retakers: Hate speech and death threats directed at Mass Effect 3 fans note  .
  • UsefulNotes.Scientology: Even after being locked, the fighting didn't stop. Since it was the only Useful Notes page that doesn't help you understand anything on this wiki better, the page was deleted. Church of Happyology describes when people make up a ridiculous religion, and you don't even have to know anything about Scientology to get the joke, especially not when it's actually making fun of Scientology itself. Besides, if Scientology's in a work, you can always use Wikipedia to see how accurate it is.
  • This Troper: Work impossible to catalog due to clashes with site rules on personal attacks and drama importation. To clarify, it's a series hosted on Youtube, about commenting on the controversial and negative topics of this website through a Dramatic Reading of some articles. WebVideo.This Troper was preemptively locked to prevent the restoration of the page.
  • Westboro Baptist Church: Pretty much a magnet for religious related arguments and complaining. It didn't really help you understand anything on this wiki better due to the church only having less than 100 members and almost never in any works outside of The Laramie Project and Louis Theroux's documentaries.

    Pages that were cut for reasons that were too NSFW 

  • Innocent Panties: A trope made separate of Panty Shot by portraying visible girls' underwear as a cue of girlish cuteness with no sexual intent (while Panty Shot is for fanservice). Just like Panty Shot, however, people were listing every random upskirt... of prepubscent girls. Even worse, many examples included pictures. This could have just gotten an Example Sectionectomy, but the pedophilic potential was too great.
  • Naked Shotaro Boy: Was a listing of works featuring nude prepubescent boys. In addition to the generally creepy undertones of the article, it didn't attempt any real insight into or analysis of the trope, leaving no reason to keep it.
  • Naughty Tentacles: A trope that described the use of tentacles for sexual purposes in various works, it was cut after issues with advertisers.
  • "Rape is Okay/Funny if..." tropes: Very troublesome names for the "Double Standard Rape" tropes that only encouraged plenty of misandry and misogyny by editors. All five of them were renamed and cleaned, with the original trope pages outright purged.

    Pages that were made to bypass an Example Sectionectomy 
Sometimes when examples on a page become problematic the examples will be deleted. See Example Sectionectomy for more on that. When we delete the examples from a page, we don't want them back.

    Unlisted cut pages 
These groups of pages are too large to be listed individually, but general reasons are given for their lock and deletion:

  • YMMV pages about Real Life people: Your Mileage May Vary subpages about Real Life people, while not forbidden from creation by default, tend to become about the people themselves, which is beyond the scope of this wiki. If a person's YMMV subpage is redlinked and locked, it's for this reason. YMMV pages for creators and musicians can only be about their works, not themselves.
  • Headscratchers articles that were platforms for Complaining: It's just unnecessary to list out all of these. Suffice it to say that if a Headscratchers article is permanently redlinked, it's for this reason. Headscratcher pages for tropes are also in the process of being cut, with some material being moved to the Analysis/ tab.
  • Pages affiliated with banned tropers: Perma-banned tropers will have their "Tropers/" page locked and deleted. We won't keep a list of banned tropers, since that's exactly the sort of attention that trolls crave. If these banned tropers are obnoxious enough about entry pimping a work that they wrote, its work page can also be locked and deleted.
  • Fetish Fuel subpages: The subpages that remained from this article were moved to separate off-site wikis.
  • Pages cut under the content policy: Pages for works that violate our content policy will be cut and locked. We don't keep a definitive list of these to avoid creating a directory of porn and paedo-pandering.
  • While many older works (prior to early 2012) have Main/ redirects kept as a grandfather clause, before then some pages had the Main/ redirects removed. There is no intention of bringing them back, and newer Main/ redirects can be cutlisted.

    Real Life subpages for items that don't allow Real Life examples 
If a page that forbids Real Life examples is split and has its examples put into sub-pages, the ban on Real Life examples will extend to the existence of Real Life subpages. If they appear, they will be cut-and-locked immediately.

    Potshot redirects 
While Redirects Are Free, sometimes people make redirects that are nothing but Take Thats.

    Darth Wiki/So Bad Its Horrible subsections which were just that 
While this is one of the few areas on the wiki where outright derision of a work is permitted, there are certain standards that are expected, and limits as to how much edit warring will be tolerated before it's decided that a subsection just isn't worth keeping around.

    Problematic Image Links 
  • Bound And Gagged: Technically not against any known policy and while it has the fetish association, it's not something that needed to be in the NSFW tag. Let's just say the discussions went nowhere and decided that picking an image is too much trouble because nobody would agree on anything.
  • Lolicon: Dubious legality, issues with advertisers, and attracted too much negative attention on other sites.
  • Shock Site: Created via a null edit as a joke...then a Garbage Post Kid found it and added an actual link.

    Former locations of locked pages 

    Persistent initialisms 
We prefer people not to use initialisms and acronyms as redirects to a page, considering that they're often confusing for non-fans and can often have multiple referents. Note that some of these are accidental: initialisms with numbers or lowercase letters count as Wiki Words.

    Other/Unsorted 


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