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28th May '16 11:07:03 AM erforce
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyMysticQuest'' tends to attract hatred from people who believe the urban legend that it was why the USA didn't get ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' (or why Europe didn't get ''any'' ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' game) until the PlayStation years, as well as the fact that it was actually made specifically to [[GatewaySeries introduce people to]] {{RPG}}s. However, being a SuperNintendo game, it ''does'' have a fanbase thanks to the NostalgiaFilter, as well as how some people actually ''did'' play that game as an introduction to the RPG-genre. This tends to overlap with LoveItOrHateIt.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyMysticQuest'' tends to attract hatred from people who believe the urban legend that it was why the USA didn't get ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' (or why Europe didn't get ''any'' ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' game) until the PlayStation UsefulNotes/PlayStation years, as well as the fact that it was actually made specifically to [[GatewaySeries introduce people to]] {{RPG}}s. However, being a SuperNintendo UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem game, it ''does'' have a fanbase thanks to the NostalgiaFilter, as well as how some people actually ''did'' play that game as an introduction to the RPG-genre. This tends to overlap with LoveItOrHateIt.



* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' does have a huge fandom, especially on ''{{Tumblr}}'', but it also does receive significant amounts of hate.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' does have a huge fandom, especially on ''{{Tumblr}}'', ''Website/{{Tumblr}}'', but it also does receive significant amounts of hate.
27th May '16 11:07:51 PM MyFinalEdits
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** Speaking of ''Adventure Time'', there are parents who hate the show due to it having inappropiate things that shouldn't really be in a children's show, and/or thinking that the show's trippy imagery might force kids to take drugs.

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** Speaking of ''Adventure Time'', there * There are parents who hate the show ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' due to it having inappropiate things that shouldn't really be in a children's show, and/or thinking that the show's trippy imagery might force kids to take drugs.
27th May '16 11:07:06 PM MyFinalEdits
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* Rap music in general tends to inspire a generational divide between the Creator/{{MTV}}[=/=]Creator/{{BET}}-watching youth of its fans and their out-of-touch adult parents who take offense to its violent, misogynist themes, can't understand a word of the Ebonics-laden lyrics, and at worst [[HateDumb are unsure if Rap is even music]]. Rap is even the preferred punching bag of older Black leaders who accuse/scapegoat it for [[StopBeingStereotypical promoting stereotypes]] and instilling in its listeners distorted messages about Black culture. It also has a MASSIVE hatedom amongst fans of classic rock, mainly because it's effectively replaced most genres of rock aside from alt-rock among the masses these days.

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* Rap music in general general.
** The genre
tends to inspire a generational divide between the Creator/{{MTV}}[=/=]Creator/{{BET}}-watching youth of its fans and their out-of-touch adult parents who take offense to its violent, misogynist themes, can't understand a word of the Ebonics-laden lyrics, and at worst [[HateDumb are unsure if Rap is even music]]. Rap is even the preferred punching bag of older Black leaders who accuse/scapegoat it for [[StopBeingStereotypical promoting stereotypes]] and instilling in its listeners distorted messages about Black culture. It also has a MASSIVE hatedom amongst fans of classic rock, mainly because it's effectively replaced most genres of rock aside from alt-rock among the masses these days.
27th May '16 4:00:24 PM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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* Time killed this when the original "{{MTV}} Generation" (who were teens during the '80s and early '90s) turned into parents, though it's still an issue for the older teens and young adults who are the children of the Baby Boomers (who were teens during the '60s and '70s, before rap became mainstream).
* Reggaeton, being a derivative from rap and dancehall, also has got in Latin America a hatedom similar to the one towards rap, on the same demographics and for similar reasons. Although they also get fire from the elevate sexual content of several songs, which adds a lot of MoralGuardians of the ThinkOfTheChildren type to the hatedom.
* ''All'' Black music has been prone to this. Jazz, R&B, and soul also had large Periphery Hatedoms in their time, but their hatedoms at least admitted that the main reason behind their loathing was the race of the musicians. Rap's detractors live in an era where that's not safe to say in public.
* There's a substantial rivalry between metal and rap, though it's mostly one sided, since [[UnknownRival most rap fans are oblivious to it]]. This comes mostly from metal fans believing metal should be the biggest genre in the charts, and blame the popularity of rap for stopping this. They will lament the glory days of Nu Metal, but forget it was just as much a fad as anything else. (Ironically, when metal was at the peak of its popularity in TheEighties, it was in the incarnation of HairMetal, which most of these critics also despise.) In actual fact, many metal fans like rap music and vice versa.

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* ** Time killed this when the original "{{MTV}} Generation" (who were teens during the '80s and early '90s) turned into parents, though it's still an issue for the older teens and young adults who are the children of the Baby Boomers (who were teens during the '60s and '70s, before rap became mainstream).
* ** Reggaeton, being a derivative from rap and dancehall, also has got in Latin America a hatedom similar to the one towards rap, on the same demographics and for similar reasons. Although they also get fire from the elevate heavy sexual content of several songs, which adds a lot of MoralGuardians of the ThinkOfTheChildren type to the hatedom.
* ** ''All'' Black music has been prone to this. Jazz, R&B, and soul also had large Periphery Hatedoms in their time, but their hatedoms at least admitted that the main reason behind their loathing was the race of the musicians. Rap's detractors live in an era where that's not safe to say in public.
* ** There's a substantial rivalry between metal and rap, though it's mostly one sided, since [[UnknownRival most rap fans are oblivious to it]]. This comes mostly from metal fans believing metal should be the biggest genre in the charts, and blame the popularity of rap for stopping this. They will lament the glory days of Nu Metal, but forget it was just as much a fad as anything else. (Ironically, when metal was at the peak of its popularity in TheEighties, it was in the incarnation of HairMetal, which most of these critics also despise.) In actual fact, many metal fans like rap music and vice versa.
26th May '16 8:53:45 PM kablammin45
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* Great goggily moggily, have the ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' Minions gained one of these over time! You can thank HypeBacklash for that, as they have gotten many accusations of being [[TheScrappy annoying]], [[SpotlightStealingSquad over-premoted]], and upstaging all of the other characters of the two movies over time, resulting in people just getting sick of them. The straw that broke the camel's back was when they got [[WesternAnimation/{{Minions}} their own movie]], and now you'll be hard pressed to find someone who will admit to still genuinely liking them.



* ''WesternAnimation/SanjayAndCraig'' has been accused by many people for being a rip-off of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'' and has also been berated for having too much toilet humor (the first episode was notably about a ''butt transplant'') and, before it premiered, for ''actually interrupting shows'' ala the aforementioned ''Nick Studio 10'' to show promos for it; however like ''WesternAnimation/TuffPuppy'', it also has a small (but progressing) PeripheryDemographic as well as many people saying it might become Nickelodeon's next CashCowFranchise.

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* Initially, ''WesternAnimation/SanjayAndCraig'' has been was accused by many people for being a rip-off of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'' and has also been upon premiering was berated for having too much toilet humor (the humor. (The first episode was notably about a ''butt transplant'') and, Even before it premiered, it was hated for ''actually interrupting shows'' ala the aforementioned ''Nick Studio 10'' to show promos for it; however like ''WesternAnimation/TuffPuppy'', it also has it. However, the show eventually [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard]] and gradually gained a small (but progressing) noticeable PeripheryDemographic as well as many people saying over time. People were even disappointed when it might become Nickelodeon's next CashCowFranchise.was cancelled. Many of the first season's episodes [[VindicatedByHistory are now mostly seen as]] SoOkayItsAverage. (Though some episodes, particularly the infamous and nonsensical "Fart Baby" episode are still widely disliked.) It still has a number of detractors, though, so it's not completely an aversion to this trope.



* ''WesternAnimation/JayJayTheJetPlane'': The planes, helicopters, and staff of Terrytown Airport offer entertainment, life lessons, moral instruction for ages 2-6...and CGI characters straight from the UncannyValley. Even worse, some VHS and [=DVDs=] of the show have been released by Tommy Nelson--a Christian distributor, even though the series wasn't originally conceived as a Christian show.

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* ''WesternAnimation/JayJayTheJetPlane'': The planes, helicopters, and staff of Terrytown Airport offer entertainment, life lessons, moral instruction for ages 2-6...and CGI characters straight from the UncannyValley. Even worse, Additionally, some VHS and [=DVDs=] of the show have been were released by Tommy Nelson--a Christian distributor, even though the series wasn't originally conceived as a Christian show.show, to the annoyance of some non-Christians.
26th May '16 4:06:43 PM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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* ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'': Barney is the king of this trope, but this is worthy company for him. The ''Teletubbies'' is even hated due to the "Bear and Lion" vignette. They were not meant for you. Especially not if you're denouncing one of them for being gay. While it has the usual Periphery Hatedom, some concerned parents made waves when it was thought that the nonsense speech of the main characters might be hurting the verbal development of its target audience at a time when their babbling starts to cohere into words and basic sentences. There's also the argument that ''any'' television program is bad for a target audience at a developmental period where they're mainly learning how to move. It's possible to believe that the people actually making the show did their best with the content and still think the primary intent and effect of the show's existence was to increase the exposure of infants to TV commercials and brand logos (a frankly bizarre claim given that it was first made by and shown on Creator/TheBBC, which has '''no adverts'''). Oh, and the show's main theme was written by Creator/SimonCowell.

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* ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'': Barney is the king of this trope, but this is worthy company for him. The ''Teletubbies'' is even hated due to the "Bear and Lion" vignette. They were not meant for you. Especially not if you're denouncing one of them for being gay. While it has the usual Periphery Hatedom, some concerned parents made waves when it was thought that the nonsense speech of the main characters might be hurting the verbal development of its target audience at a time when their babbling starts to cohere into words and basic sentences. There's also the argument that ''any'' television program is bad for a target audience at a developmental period where they're mainly learning how to move. It's possible to believe that the people actually making the show did their best with the content and still think the primary intent and effect of the show's existence was to increase the exposure of infants to TV commercials and brand logos (a frankly bizarre claim given that it was first made by and shown on Creator/TheBBC, which has '''no adverts'''). Oh, and the show's main theme was written by Creator/SimonCowell.
26th May '16 3:02:40 PM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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* Creator/TylerPerry's movies have created a series of minor racism controversies based on the fact that they tend to be critically-drubbed by the vast majority of critics (most of whom are white), yet are extraordinarily popular in the black community, which has turned these movies into #1 hits. Creator/RogerEbert seemed to be a particular target. On top of that, Perry also experiences this among black viewers. Perry got his start staging plays on what's sometimes called the "Chitlin' Circuit", a {{vaudeville}}-esque black theater circuit which primarily caters to older, more conservative, and more religious audiences. African American subcultures experience as much ValuesDissonance with each other as they do with anyone else; someone who identifies with Reggie Watts or Aaron McGruder could find Perry quite tasteless, and vise-versa. Perry even threatened to pull some of his content from TBS after one episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' made harsh fun of the UnfortunateImplications and StrictlyFormula tendencies of Perry's movies. Either way, Perry [[PanderingToTheBase caters to a very specific demographic]] with which many African Americans do not identify.

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* Creator/TylerPerry's movies have created a series of minor racism controversies based on the fact that they tend to be critically-drubbed by the vast majority of critics (most of whom are white), yet are extraordinarily popular in the black community, which has turned these movies into #1 hits. Creator/RogerEbert seemed to be a particular target. On top of that, Perry also experiences this among black viewers. Perry got his start staging plays on what's sometimes called the "Chitlin' Circuit", a {{vaudeville}}-esque black theater circuit which primarily caters to older, more conservative, and more religious audiences. African American subcultures experience as much ValuesDissonance with each other as they do with anyone else; someone who identifies with Reggie Watts or Aaron McGruder [=McGruder=] could find Perry quite tasteless, and vise-versa. Perry even threatened to pull some of his content from TBS after one episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' made harsh fun of the UnfortunateImplications and StrictlyFormula tendencies of Perry's movies. Either way, Perry [[PanderingToTheBase caters to a very specific demographic]] with which many African Americans do not identify.
24th May '16 11:06:25 PM lizaphile
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* Of Nickelodeon shows, 2013's ''Nick Studio 10'' received an irrational hatedom because of its un-traditional interruptions of programming (right in the middle of episodes with random videos that had no rhyme or reason, although the block was mainly made up of the usual ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' marathons the network has [[AdoredByTheNetwork become addicted to]], so unless you're completely new to the show, you knew what was happening anyways), stunts and skits which wasted food, ToiletHumor, and some rather overheated accusations of animal abuse, though the actual audience either enjoyed it or rolled their eyes and waited them out because they were there to watch a show, not the continuity between. It may have developed into a sane block eventually, but a hacking of the show's Twitter account with racist content, social media harassment of the cast, YouTube videos criticizing it made by viewers well out of their demographic (The Archfiend was the most infamous hater of the block and was in his '''thirties'''), and the show's Facebook moderator just giving up made it too onerous for Nickelodeon to continue it. After a Labor Day 'best-of' episode promising the return of the block, the block never returned and the cast moved onto projects outside the network, and who could blame them?
* [=NickMom=] started out as a new block on the Nick Jr. channel in 2012 centered on mom-focused humor and such to give them a respite after having to tolerate their toddler's continuous ''WesternAnimation/PeppaPig'' obsession. To social media critics who don't understand that a new network's first schedule will never become permanent, it was like ''Franklin'', ''Dora'', and ''Blue's Clues'' were taken out back and shot, replaced by inappropriate mom-focused humor despite multiple content warnings. Adding to the hatedom were several minor controversies, such as having an insensitive blog post about those affected by Hurricane Sandy, using photos of children without permission on their blog, and airing a skit titled "Bake Sale" which caused outrage among parents who felt the skit was [[DudeNotFunny mocking children with food allergies]], successfully managing to get it pulled from both the block and its website (you can watch it [[http://vimeo.com/37078192 here]] and judge for yourself.) The ratings, however, eventually sorted things out; the funny stuff, sitcom and movie reruns worked, the vulgar stuff didn't, and by 2014 [=NickMom=] became more benign (with only the very occasional sex joke or [[Film/AboutLastNight edited R-rated movie]] here and there), with Disney Junior, Sprout, and Netflix easily happy to take the homes that don't want to watch [=NickMom=]. Eventually, though, those who were still dissatisfied with the block won; the block was discontinued to the relief of its (by then mostly faded) hatedom on September 28, 2015, with regular Nick Jr. programs taking its place.

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* Of Nickelodeon shows, 2013's ''Nick Studio 10'' received an irrational hatedom because of its un-traditional interruptions of programming (right in the middle of episodes with random videos that had no rhyme or reason, although the block was mainly made up of the usual ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' marathons the network has [[AdoredByTheNetwork become addicted to]], so unless you're completely new to the show, you knew what was happening anyways), stunts and skits which wasted food, ToiletHumor, and some rather overheated accusations of animal abuse, though the actual audience either enjoyed it or rolled their eyes and waited them out because they were there to watch a show, not the continuity between. It may have developed into a sane block eventually, but a hacking of the show's Twitter account with racist content, social media harassment of the cast, YouTube videos criticizing it made by viewers well out of their demographic (The Archfiend was the most infamous hater of the block and was in his '''thirties'''), and the show's Facebook moderator just giving up made it too onerous for Nickelodeon to continue it. After a Labor Day 'best-of' episode promising the return of the block, the block never returned and the cast moved onto projects outside the network, and who could blame them?
them? As of 2016, Nick has not launched any new live hosted blocks, likely scared off completely by the ''Studio 10'' experience.
* [=NickMom=] started out as a new block on the Nick Jr. channel in 2012 centered on mom-focused humor and such to give them a respite after having to tolerate their toddler's continuous ''WesternAnimation/PeppaPig'' obsession. To social media critics who don't understand that a new network's first schedule will never become permanent, it was like ''Franklin'', ''Dora'', and ''Blue's Clues'' were taken out back and shot, replaced by inappropriate mom-focused humor despite multiple content warnings. Adding to the hatedom were several minor controversies, such as having an insensitive blog post about those affected by Hurricane Sandy, using photos of children without permission on their blog, and airing a skit titled "Bake Sale" which caused outrage among parents who felt the skit was [[DudeNotFunny mocking children with food allergies]], successfully managing to get it pulled from both the block and its website (you can watch it [[http://vimeo.com/37078192 here]] and judge for yourself.) The ratings, ratings (low as they were), however, eventually sorted things out; the funny stuff, sitcom and movie reruns worked, the vulgar stuff didn't, and by 2014 [=NickMom=] became more benign (with only the very occasional sex joke or [[Film/AboutLastNight edited R-rated movie]] here and there), with Disney Junior, Sprout, and Netflix easily happy to take the homes that don't want to watch [=NickMom=]. Eventually, though, those who were still dissatisfied with the block won; the block was discontinued to the relief of its (by then mostly faded) hatedom on September 28, 2015, 2015 (and by then if you were a hatedom obsessed with taking down 90's romance films and ''Series/{{Parenthood}}'' reruns, you just looked petty), with regular Nick Jr. programs taking its place.
17th May '16 10:32:21 AM Vorpale
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* Despite being regarded as one of the best Disney movies of the past few years, ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' has received a lot of hate... Because, due to its characters being FunnyAnimals, it has a ''huge'' popularity among the FurryFandom.
10th May '16 2:50:05 PM Vir
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** Poor Mattel. It seems that no matter what they do with the Barbie franchise, they'll end up getting flak for it. Their latest scheme in giving Barbie a positive light is ''Hello Barbie'', a doll that could do advanced speech recognition and speech synthesis to answer questions posed to her by the owner and connect to Mattel's server (for MoralGuardians filtering) over the Internet via Wi-Fi to get information. The intention here is to show that girls can be smart, allowing a child to look to Barbie for help with homework if no one else who can help is around. It immediately gathered flak for being a ''privacy invader'' (despite Mattel assuring that no personally identifiable information on the owner will be stored on their server, and only certain non-critical information like the owner's name is stored in the doll itself) and white hats immediately started pointing out how the doll can be hacked to say things of their choice, not by hacking the doll itself, ''but by hijacking the ISP's domain name server'' (which will allow them to take over ''any'' internet connected program, including the humble web browser, and that assuming they managed to reverse engineer the doll's communications protocol first). Nevermind that Microsoft, Blackberry, Apple and Google have done this with Cortana, Assistant, Siri and OK Google respectively with no backlash whatsoever, and that toys like that are pretty common in Japan and had not have any issues in that country. And oh, hobbyists all over the world, including in the US itself, have been hacking up dolls that do just that, ''and those has no filtering whatsoever''. And when they put that same technology into a different toy (a Fisher-Price stuffed bear), ''the first batch of said toy sold out within days of launch''. It seems that the real problem here isn't about privacy or protecting little girls, but ''Barbie can't be smart''.

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** Poor Mattel. It seems that no matter what they do with the Barbie Franchise/{{Barbie}} franchise, they'll end up getting flak for it. Their latest One scheme in giving Barbie a positive light is ''Hello Barbie'', a doll that could do advanced speech recognition and speech synthesis to answer questions posed to her by the owner and connect to Mattel's server (for MoralGuardians filtering) over the Internet via Wi-Fi to get information. The intention here is to show that girls can be smart, allowing a child to look to Barbie for help with homework if no one else who can help is around. It immediately gathered flak for being a ''privacy invader'' (despite Mattel assuring that no personally identifiable information on the owner will be stored on their server, and only certain non-critical information like the owner's name is stored in the doll itself) and white hats immediately started pointing out how the doll can be hacked to say things of their choice, not by hacking the doll itself, ''but by hijacking the ISP's domain name server'' (which will allow them to take over ''any'' internet connected program, including the humble web browser, and that that's assuming they managed to reverse engineer the doll's communications protocol first). Nevermind that Microsoft, Blackberry, Apple and Google have done this with Cortana, Assistant, Siri and OK Google respectively with no backlash whatsoever, and that toys like that are pretty common in Japan and had not have any issues in that country. And oh, hobbyists all over the world, including in the US itself, have been hacking up dolls that do just that, ''and those has have no filtering whatsoever''. And when they put that same technology into a different toy (a Fisher-Price stuffed bear), ''the first batch of said toy sold out within days of launch''. It seems that the real problem here isn't about privacy or protecting little girls, but ''Barbie can't be smart''.
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