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30th Apr '16 9:07:03 PM MyFinalEdits
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* In one of the rare cases where this trope is completely justified, there are moviegoers who are not fans of comic books but ''are'' fans of comic-book movie adaptations. Many of them have been left cold by the fact that, since about 2000 or so, studios have been [[PanderingToTheBase making the movies chiefly for nerds]], complete with [[GeekReferencePool esoteric references that only nerds will understand]]. "Normal" people want to enjoy them, too!
30th Apr '16 1:14:14 AM 10-13-2
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* In one of the rare cases where this trope is completely justified, there are moviegoers who are not fans of comic books but ''are'' fans of comic-book movie adaptations. Many of them have been left cold by the fact that, since about 2000 or so, studios have been [[PanderingToTheBase making the movies chiefly for nerds]], complete with [[GeekReferencePool esoteric references that only nerds will understand]]. "Normal" people want to enjoy them, too!
30th Apr '16 12:57:11 AM 10-13-2
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* ''Literature/LeftBehind'' has a ''huge'' Periphery Hatedom; anybody who doesn't subscribe to the authors' precise apocalyptic vision is a potential member. Ironically [[http://exharpazo.blogspot.com/2007/01/index-to-slactivists-left-behind.html the most in-depth (by far) critique]] of the series is being produced by a (progressive) evangelical Christian. The hatred comes from several directions: those who aren't Christians and disagree with its message from the outset, those who ''are'' Christians but think the authors are on the fringe and [[StopBeingStereotypical making the rest look bad]], and even those who are Christian and who believe the Rapture is imminent, but think ''Left Behind'' has got it all wrong. Some may feel it's an easy work of fiction to avoid due to limited mainstream marketing, though this depends on where you live, such as if you're in an area where typical ''Left Behind'' readers are the majority (though even then, it's hardly on the level of ''Twilight''). However, much like some of the ''Twilight'' hatred, the criticism is sometimes about what the stories are indicative of, and what influence they have on the readers in the intended demographic.

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* ''Literature/LeftBehind'' has a ''huge'' Periphery Hatedom; anybody who doesn't subscribe to the authors' precise apocalyptic vision is a potential member. Ironically [[http://exharpazo.blogspot.com/2007/01/index-to-slactivists-left-behind.html the most in-depth (by far) critique]] of the series is being produced by a (progressive) evangelical Christian. The hatred comes from several directions: those who aren't Christians and disagree with its message from the outset, those who ''are'' Christians but think the authors are on the fringe and [[StopBeingStereotypical making the rest look bad]], and even those who are Christian and who believe the Rapture is imminent, but think ''Left Behind'' has got it all wrong. Some may feel it's an easy work of fiction to avoid due to limited mainstream marketing, though this depends on where you live, such as if you're in an area where typical ''Left Behind'' readers are the majority (though even then, it's hardly on the level of ''Twilight''). However, much like some of the ''Twilight'' hatred, the criticism is sometimes about what the stories are indicative of, and what influence they have on the readers in the intended demographic. And then there are those people who just find apocalyptic (non)fiction creepy, and wish people would just keep their [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt End Of the World As We Know It]] fantasies - or beliefs - to themselves.
30th Apr '16 12:51:01 AM 10-13-2
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* ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouseClubhouse'', popular among the toddler set it's aimed at, has earned mixed reviews from critics and Disney fans alike for putting their mascot and company into a toddler show, but it's many people on social networks who have a deep hate for it that tend to be more vocal about it. The fact that Disney still goes along making new episodes for this show does NOT help matters, nor does the fact that they market Mickey's ''Clubhouse'' incarnation more aggressively than his earlier, more PeripheryDemographic-friendly appearances.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouseClubhouse'', popular among the toddler set it's aimed at, has earned mixed reviews from critics and Disney fans alike for putting their mascot and company into a toddler show, but it's many people on social networks who have a deep hate for it that tend to be more vocal about it. The fact that Disney still goes along making new episodes for this show does NOT help matters, nor does the fact that they market Mickey's ''Clubhouse'' incarnation more aggressively than his earlier, more PeripheryDemographic-friendly appearances. Of course, some of this may be CondescendingCompassion on the part of parents, as in "I feel sorry for today's kids being brought up to think this is quality entertainment. [[WhenIWasYourAge Back in my day]], we had ''good'' cartoons."
30th Apr '16 12:47:45 AM 10-13-2
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** Subverted by Sideshow Bob, who really hates the TV show ''[=MacGyver=]'' - but this was while he was briefly married to Selma Bouvier, who is a big fan of the show, so he was semi-obligated to watch it.
30th Apr '16 12:44:13 AM 10-13-2
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* Nosy and completely unjustified examples of the PretenderDiss tend to come off this way. Examples include a Native American being told by a non-Native that [[RealityIsUnrealistic "you don't act Indian enough."]] Or a Gentile telling a Jew that they're a bad person for eating a cheeseburger (or some other non-kosher food). [[note]] In fact, an overwhelming majority of modern Jews do not, in fact, keep kosher. [[/note]]
29th Apr '16 11:30:50 PM MyFinalEdits
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* Pretty much anything from syndicator Litton Entertainment will inevitably get this, regardless of what they put out (Jack Hanna being an occasional exception due to [[NostalgiaGoggles nostalgia]]), mainly for holding what's seen as a monopoly on Saturday morning kids' fare, replacing the once-popular SaturdayMorningCartoon with unscripted nature documentaries, cooking shows, and lifestyle shows, all genres by and large considered boring and uninteresting by most younger people, including the intended target audience of teenagers. It was especially painful for fans of the late Creator/{{Vortexx}}[[note]]The last traditional Saturday morning cartoon block[[/note]], whose time space was among those taken over by Litton, alongside ABC's Creator/DisneyChannel reruns and CBS's Creator/CookieJarTV. Occasionally Steve Rotfeld Productions' Xploration Station block mostly seen of Fox stations gets lumped in, but isn't hated as much due to its STEM focus being seen as more interesting (plus it killed off a two-hour block of {{Infomercial}}s so it was a much worthier replacement to both viewers and Fox affiliates).

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* Pretty much anything Anything from syndicator Litton Entertainment will inevitably get this, regardless of what they put out (Jack Hanna being an occasional exception due to [[NostalgiaGoggles nostalgia]]), mainly for holding what's seen as a monopoly on Saturday morning kids' fare, replacing the once-popular SaturdayMorningCartoon with unscripted nature documentaries, cooking shows, and lifestyle shows, all genres by and large considered boring and uninteresting by most younger people, including the intended target audience of teenagers. It was especially painful for fans of the late Creator/{{Vortexx}}[[note]]The last traditional Saturday morning cartoon block[[/note]], whose time space was among those taken over by Litton, alongside ABC's Creator/DisneyChannel reruns and CBS's Creator/CookieJarTV. Occasionally Steve Rotfeld Productions' Xploration Station block mostly seen of Fox stations gets lumped in, but isn't hated as much due to its STEM focus being seen as more interesting (plus it killed off a two-hour block of {{Infomercial}}s so it was a much worthier replacement to both viewers and Fox affiliates).



** Poor Mattel. It seems that no matter what they do with the Barbie franchise, they'll end up getting flak for it. Their latest scheme in giving Barbie a positive light is ''Hello Barbie'', a doll that could do advanced speech recognition and speech synthesis to answer questions posed to her by the owner and connect to Mattel's server (for MoralGuardians filtering) over the Internet via Wi-Fi to get information. The intention here is to show that girls can be smart, allowing a child to look to Barbie for help with homework if no one else who can help is around. It immediately gathered flak for being a ''privacy invader'' (despite Mattel assuring that no personally identifiable information on the owner will be stored on their server, and only certain non-critical information like the owner's name is stored in the doll itself) and white hats immediately started pointing out how the doll can be hacked to say things of their choice, not by hacking the doll itself, ''but by hijacking the ISP's domain name server'' (which will pretty much allow them to take over ''any'' internet connected program, including the humble web browser, and that assuming they managed to reverse engineer the doll's communications protocol first). Nevermind that Microsoft, Blackberry, Apple and Google have done this with Cortana, Assistant, Siri and OK Google respectively with no backlash whatsoever, and that toys like that are pretty common in Japan and had not have any issues in that country. And oh, hobbyists all over the world, including in the US itself, have been hacking up dolls that do just that, ''and those has no filtering whatsoever''. And when they put that same technology into a different toy (a Fisher-Price stuffed bear), ''the first batch of said toy sold out within days of launch''. It seems that the real problem here isn't about privacy or protecting little girls, but ''Barbie can't be smart''.

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** Poor Mattel. It seems that no matter what they do with the Barbie franchise, they'll end up getting flak for it. Their latest scheme in giving Barbie a positive light is ''Hello Barbie'', a doll that could do advanced speech recognition and speech synthesis to answer questions posed to her by the owner and connect to Mattel's server (for MoralGuardians filtering) over the Internet via Wi-Fi to get information. The intention here is to show that girls can be smart, allowing a child to look to Barbie for help with homework if no one else who can help is around. It immediately gathered flak for being a ''privacy invader'' (despite Mattel assuring that no personally identifiable information on the owner will be stored on their server, and only certain non-critical information like the owner's name is stored in the doll itself) and white hats immediately started pointing out how the doll can be hacked to say things of their choice, not by hacking the doll itself, ''but by hijacking the ISP's domain name server'' (which will pretty much allow them to take over ''any'' internet connected program, including the humble web browser, and that assuming they managed to reverse engineer the doll's communications protocol first). Nevermind that Microsoft, Blackberry, Apple and Google have done this with Cortana, Assistant, Siri and OK Google respectively with no backlash whatsoever, and that toys like that are pretty common in Japan and had not have any issues in that country. And oh, hobbyists all over the world, including in the US itself, have been hacking up dolls that do just that, ''and those has no filtering whatsoever''. And when they put that same technology into a different toy (a Fisher-Price stuffed bear), ''the first batch of said toy sold out within days of launch''. It seems that the real problem here isn't about privacy or protecting little girls, but ''Barbie can't be smart''.



* ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE'' is on the receiving end of this trope from the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' fandom as well for pretty much the same reasons. To them, ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' was pushing it but ''Illusory Revelations'' crossed the line.

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* ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE'' is on the receiving end of this trope from the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' fandom as well for pretty much the same reasons. To them, ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' was pushing it but ''Illusory Revelations'' crossed the line.



* In general, pretty much any Creator/PBSKids show produced after somewhere around 2008 gets this. Shows like ''WesternAnimation/SidTheScienceKid'', ''WesternAnimation/PegPlusCat'', and ''WesternAnimation/TheCatInTheHatKnowsALotAboutThat'' get plenty of vitriol, mostly from your typical audience of [=GoAnimate=] users and people in the [="(GOOD USER)/(BAD USER)"=] community. There ''are'' some exceptions, like ''WesternAnimation/MarthaSpeaks'' and ''WesternAnimation/WildKratts'' (mostly from nostalgia from the Kratt brothers' previous work).

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* In general, pretty much any Any Creator/PBSKids show produced after somewhere around 2008 gets this. Shows like ''WesternAnimation/SidTheScienceKid'', ''WesternAnimation/PegPlusCat'', and ''WesternAnimation/TheCatInTheHatKnowsALotAboutThat'' get plenty of vitriol, mostly from your typical audience of [=GoAnimate=] users and people in the [="(GOOD USER)/(BAD USER)"=] community. There ''are'' some exceptions, like ''WesternAnimation/MarthaSpeaks'' and ''WesternAnimation/WildKratts'' (mostly from nostalgia from the Kratt brothers' previous work).
28th Apr '16 6:50:49 PM lizaphile
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* Pretty much anything from syndicator Litton Entertainment will inevitably get this, regardless of what they put out (Jack Hanna being an occasional exception due to [[NostalgiaGoggles nostalgia]]), mainly for holding what's seen as a monopoly on Saturday morning kids' fare, replacing the once-popular SaturdayMorningCartoon with unscripted nature documentaries, cooking shows, and lifestyle shows, all genres by and large considered boring and uninteresting by most younger people, including the intended target audience of teenagers. It was especially painful for fans of the late Creator/{{Vortexx}}[[note]]The last traditional Saturday morning cartoon block[[/note]], whose time space was among those taken over by Litton, alongside ABC's Creator/DisneyChannel reruns and CBS's Creator/CookieJarTV. Occasionally Steve Rotfeld Productions' Xploration Station block mostly seen of Fox stations gets lumped in, but isn't hated as much due to its STEM focus being seen as more interesting.

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* Pretty much anything from syndicator Litton Entertainment will inevitably get this, regardless of what they put out (Jack Hanna being an occasional exception due to [[NostalgiaGoggles nostalgia]]), mainly for holding what's seen as a monopoly on Saturday morning kids' fare, replacing the once-popular SaturdayMorningCartoon with unscripted nature documentaries, cooking shows, and lifestyle shows, all genres by and large considered boring and uninteresting by most younger people, including the intended target audience of teenagers. It was especially painful for fans of the late Creator/{{Vortexx}}[[note]]The last traditional Saturday morning cartoon block[[/note]], whose time space was among those taken over by Litton, alongside ABC's Creator/DisneyChannel reruns and CBS's Creator/CookieJarTV. Occasionally Steve Rotfeld Productions' Xploration Station block mostly seen of Fox stations gets lumped in, but isn't hated as much due to its STEM focus being seen as more interesting.interesting (plus it killed off a two-hour block of {{Infomercial}}s so it was a much worthier replacement to both viewers and Fox affiliates).
27th Apr '16 11:32:40 PM MyFinalEdits
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** This attitude goes back a long way. In TheSeventies,[[TheLastDJ Johnnie Walker]] was famously fired by the Creator/{{BBC}} for the first time for his adamant refusal to play hits by the manufactured boy band of the day, The Bay City Rollers, on his prime-time show. Johnnie pointed out he only wanted to play quality music by ''real'' groups. The [=BBC=] disagreed with his stance that the presenter should be free to pick his own playlist and sacked him. [[note]]Johnnie Walker now presents a retrospective 1970's music show for the [=BBC=]. He has mellowed slightly, grudgingly agrees the Rollers are part of many people's 1970's memories, and has agreed to play the occassional Rollers track. He thinks one a year is a good compromise. [[/note]]

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** This attitude goes back a long way. In TheSeventies,[[TheLastDJ TheSeventies, [[TheLastDJ Johnnie Walker]] was famously fired by the Creator/{{BBC}} for the first time for his adamant refusal to play hits by the manufactured boy band of the day, The Bay City Rollers, on his prime-time show. Johnnie pointed out he only wanted to play quality music by ''real'' groups. The [=BBC=] disagreed with his stance that the presenter should be free to pick his own playlist and sacked him. [[note]]Johnnie Walker now presents a retrospective 1970's music show for the [=BBC=]. He has mellowed slightly, grudgingly agrees the Rollers are part of many people's 1970's memories, and has agreed to play the occassional Rollers track. He thinks one a year is a good compromise. [[/note]]
27th Apr '16 2:57:58 AM AgProv
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** This attitude goes back a long way. In TheSeventies,[[TheLastDJ Johnnie Walker]] was famously fired by the Creator/{{BBC}} for the first time for his adamant refusal to play hits by the manufactured boy band of the day, The Bay City Rollers, on his prime-time show. Johnnie pointed out he only wanted to play quality music by ''real'' groups. The [=BBC=] disagreed with his stance that the presenter should be free to pick his own playlist and sacked him. [[note]]Johnnie Walker now presents a retrospective 1970's music show for the [=BBC=]. He has mellowed slightly, grudgingly agrees the Rollers are part of many people's 1970's memories, and has agreed to play the occassional Rollers track. He thinks one a year is a good compromise. [[/note]]
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