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19th Jan '17 11:09:41 AM FromtheWordsofBR
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* Toys made for adults fall under this as well. MisaimedMarketing doesn't help either.

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* Toys made for adults adults[[note]]No, not ''[[IThoughtItMeant those]]'' kinds of "toys"[[/note]] fall under this as well. MisaimedMarketing doesn't help either.
19th Jan '17 11:09:14 AM FromtheWordsofBR
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* ''Series/HannahMontana'' and ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' are often blamed for Creator/DisneyChannel's NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for the non-teenage audience.[[note]]While ''Series/LizzieMcGuire'' saw Disney find success with later series starring teen popstars as the lead characters, both series were generally SliceOfLife series or sitcoms that fit well into the channel's programming. It wasn't until ''Hannah Montana'' and ''High School Musical'' were made that said types of series, and eventually all of Disney Channel's live-action programming altogether, began shifting their focus from everyday situations to becoming famous in some way. While there are some exceptions to this, the increasingly teen-oriented and fame-centered live-action series that were made caused a massive change in the network's programming, which alienates many.[[/note]] Straight males, females born before 1989, {{tomboy}}s, feminists, and MoralGuardians make up a sizable hatedom to both franchises.

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* ''Series/HannahMontana'' and ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' are often blamed for Creator/DisneyChannel's NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for the non-teenage audience.[[note]]While ''Series/LizzieMcGuire'' saw Disney find success with later series starring teen popstars as the lead characters, both said series were generally SliceOfLife series or sitcoms series/sitcoms that fit well into the channel's programming. It wasn't until ''Hannah Montana'' and ''High School Musical'' were made that said types of series, and eventually all of Disney Channel's live-action programming altogether, began shifting their focus from everyday situations to becoming famous in some way. While there are some exceptions to this, the increasingly teen-oriented and fame-centered live-action series that were made caused a massive change in the network's programming, which alienates many.[[/note]] Straight males, females born before 1989, {{tomboy}}s, feminists, and MoralGuardians make up a sizable hatedom to both franchises.
17th Jan '17 5:36:11 PM MadMan400096
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* Anything from syndicator Litton Entertainment will inevitably get this, regardless of what they put out (Jack Hanna being an occasional exception due to [[NostalgiaGoggles nostalgia]]), mainly for holding what's seen as a monopoly on Saturday morning kids' fare, replacing the once-popular SaturdayMorningCartoon with unscripted nature documentaries, cooking shows, and lifestyle shows, all genres by and large considered boring and uninteresting by most younger people, including the intended target audience of teenagers. It was especially painful for fans of the late Creator/{{Vortexx}}[[note]]The last traditional Saturday morning cartoon block[[/note]], whose time space was among those taken over by Litton, alongside ABC's Creator/DisneyChannel reruns and CBS's Creator/CookieJarTV. Occasionally Steve Rotfeld Productions' Xploration Station block mostly seen of Fox stations gets lumped in, but isn't hated as much due to its STEM focus being seen as more interesting (plus it killed off a two-hour block of {{Infomercial}}s so it was a much worthier replacement to both viewers and Fox affiliates).

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* Anything from syndicator Litton Entertainment will inevitably get this, regardless of what they put out (Jack Hanna being an occasional exception due to [[NostalgiaGoggles nostalgia]]), mainly for holding what's seen as a monopoly on Saturday morning kids' fare, replacing the once-popular SaturdayMorningCartoon with unscripted nature documentaries, cooking shows, and lifestyle shows, all genres by and large considered boring and uninteresting by most younger people, including the intended target audience of teenagers. Not helping matters is that [[http://deadline.com/2016/06/kids-tv-shows-saturday-mornings-fcc-loophole-advertising-1201774658/ many of the shows have the same blatant commercialization that led to the rise of the E/I rules they play to in the first place]], except for teenage audiences, [[LoopholeAbuse making the blatant sponsorships and longer commercial breaks perfectly acceptable by the FCC's standards. It was especially painful for fans of the late Creator/{{Vortexx}}[[note]]The last traditional Saturday morning cartoon block[[/note]], block[[/note]] and [[Creator/{{Sprout}} NBC Kids]][[note]]Beside being the last of the Big Five's blocks to air cartoons, it also carried programming from a network mostly exclusive to digital cable, and thus one that benefited from the extra exposure[[/note]], whose time space was spaces were among those taken over by Litton, alongside ABC's Creator/DisneyChannel reruns and CBS's Creator/CookieJarTV. Occasionally Steve Rotfeld Productions' Xploration Station block mostly seen of Fox stations gets lumped in, but isn't hated as much due to its STEM focus being seen as more interesting (plus it killed off a two-hour block of {{Infomercial}}s so it was a much worthier replacement to both viewers and Fox affiliates).
13th Jan '17 9:23:57 AM Sakubara
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** It's also gotten hatred from people who feel it "panders to [[SoapBoxSadies social justice warriors]]" for its anti-racism message.

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** It's also gotten hatred from people who feel it "panders to [[SoapBoxSadies [[SoapBoxSadie social justice warriors]]" for its anti-racism message.
13th Jan '17 9:23:41 AM Sakubara
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** It's also gotten hatred from people who feel it "panders to [[SoapBoxSadies social justice warriors]]" for its anti-racism message.
7th Jan '17 1:37:14 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Toys made for adults (no, '''[[FreudWasRight not]]''' ''[[IThoughtItMeant those]]'' kind of "toys") fall under this as well. MisaimedMarketing doesn't help either.

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* Toys made for adults (no, '''[[FreudWasRight not]]''' ''[[IThoughtItMeant those]]'' kind of "toys") fall under this as well. MisaimedMarketing doesn't help either.
3rd Jan '17 5:57:36 PM FromtheWordsofBR
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* ''Series/HannahMontana'' and ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' are often blamed for [[Creator/DisneyChannel Disney Channel's]] NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for the non-teenage audience. [[RatedMForManly Straight males]], females born before 1989, {{tomboy}}s, feminists, and MoralGuardians make up a sizable hatedom to both franchises.

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* ''Series/HannahMontana'' and ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' are often blamed for [[Creator/DisneyChannel Disney Channel's]] Creator/DisneyChannel's NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for the non-teenage audience. [[RatedMForManly audience.[[note]]While ''Series/LizzieMcGuire'' saw Disney find success with later series starring teen popstars as the lead characters, both series were generally SliceOfLife series or sitcoms that fit well into the channel's programming. It wasn't until ''Hannah Montana'' and ''High School Musical'' were made that said types of series, and eventually all of Disney Channel's live-action programming altogether, began shifting their focus from everyday situations to becoming famous in some way. While there are some exceptions to this, the increasingly teen-oriented and fame-centered live-action series that were made caused a massive change in the network's programming, which alienates many.[[/note]] Straight males]], males, females born before 1989, {{tomboy}}s, feminists, and MoralGuardians make up a sizable hatedom to both franchises.
2nd Jan '17 10:15:28 PM MysteriousZorua1994
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* ''Series/HannahMontana'' and ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' are often blamed for Disney's NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for older audience. [[RatedMForManly Straight males]], [[NostalgiaFilter females born before 1989]], {{tomboy}}s, and MoralGuardians make up a sizable hatedom to both franchises.

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* ''Series/HannahMontana'' and ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' are often blamed for Disney's [[Creator/DisneyChannel Disney Channel's]] NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for older the non-teenage audience. [[RatedMForManly Straight males]], [[NostalgiaFilter females born before 1989]], 1989, {{tomboy}}s, feminists, and MoralGuardians make up a sizable hatedom to both franchises.
2nd Jan '17 7:00:42 AM MysteriousZorua1994
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* People hate a lot on Music/MileyCyrus, the Music/JonasBrothers, and most of these teenage, Creator/{{Disney}}-sponsored musical artists who are really only supposed to appeal to younger girls. These fans express appreciation through high-pitched {{Squee}}, and these artists didn't seem to appeal to anyone else (they were too young to invoke ParentService and Creator/{{Disney}} has nearly abandoned their flagship [=IPs=] like Mickey and Goofy to focus on marketing these singers), so tolerance for {{Squee}} in everyone else is at a minimum. Since most of these artists have disassociated from Disney and the company has stopped overpromoting this teen-oriented musical division, the hatedom has faded a bit. In the case of Miley Cyrus, when she broke out from her ContractualPurity and went into a more daring approach, like her performance in the 2013 MTV [=VMAs=], she got more flack, particularly from MoralGuardians.

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* People hate a lot on Music/MileyCyrus, the Music/JonasBrothers, and most of these teenage, Creator/{{Disney}}-sponsored musical artists who are really only supposed to appeal to younger tween and teen girls. These fans express appreciation through high-pitched {{Squee}}, {{Squee}} and the occasional GroupieBrigade, and these artists didn't seem to appeal to anyone else (they were too young to invoke ParentService and Creator/{{Disney}} has nearly abandoned their flagship [=IPs=] like Mickey and Goofy [[GirlShowGhetto to focus on marketing these singers), singers]]), so tolerance for {{Squee}} in everyone else is at a minimum. Since most of these artists have disassociated from Disney and the company has stopped overpromoting this teen-oriented musical division, the hatedom has faded a bit. In the case of Miley Cyrus, when she broke out from her ContractualPurity and went into a more daring approach, like her performance in the 2013 MTV [=VMAs=], she got more flack, particularly from MoralGuardians.



* Along with Hannah Montana, ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' is often blamed for Disney's NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for older audience. More specifically, [[RatedMForManly straight males]].

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* Along with Hannah Montana, ''Series/HannahMontana'' and ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' is are often blamed for Disney's NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for older audience. More specifically, [[RatedMForManly straight males]].Straight males]], [[NostalgiaFilter females born before 1989]], {{tomboy}}s, and MoralGuardians make up a sizable hatedom to both franchises.
30th Dec '16 4:23:09 PM TheKaizerreich
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* Dating sims and visual novels get a lot of flak for being seen as exclusively nsfw and suffering from poor writing. There's also the hate from gamers who don't consider them "real games".

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* Dating sims and visual novels get a lot of flak for being seen as exclusively nsfw and suffering from poor writing. There's also the hate from gamers who don't consider them "real games".games" (to clarify: Visual Novels really aren't games in most cases, though can feature gameplay mechanics - what is typically criticised is that they ''lack'' gameplay mechanics when those are not required by the medium's definition and are therefore simply judged as boring and/or not challeging, which is decidedly untrue for many, ''many'' Visual Novels).
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