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I'll reserve the date for power rangers movie reboot effortpost. I already have in mind what I want to write for the EP but we'll get there when we can discuss it(through I will tell you all to not write this movie off just because it's Power Rangers, because we already have quite a bit of C Ms from the series itself and it is already darker than anything in the franchise EXCEPT RPM and the Power/Ranger fanmade spoof, through that's not a hard feat much considering how in the shows themselves, villains Never Say "Die").

That said, it was one of the better Darker and Edgier takes of any work and I would reccomend it.

edited 26th Mar '17 2:48:57 PM by xie323

I started re-reading the Vento Aureo arc of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, and I've been wondering, has Dio sparing Giorno's mother ever been brought up on this thread as a potential disqualifying factor? (From what I searched, it hasn't been brought up before)

edited 26th Mar '17 2:49:42 PM by Awesomekid42

I think but I'm not entirely sure it was mentioned once and decided on as "we have no clue what actually went on there so doesn't count".

edited 26th Mar '17 2:53:23 PM by doineedaname

I wouldn't say so, because even the narrative admits there's absolutely no clue why he did it and Dio never once interacts with her onscreen.

Given that Dio planned to just wipe out literally everyone on the planet and restart it in his own image, I don't think it mitigating.

Yeah if a villain's supposed redeeming qualities are very vague, it dosen't count. For instance, new canon Tarkin supposedly had a redeeming quality in the novel featuring him in that he seems to genuinely respect his uncle, but it was vague enough to not disqualify him. And it was the same thing with the Salamanca twins.

And speaking of the Salamanca twins, Jack is still on the YMMV page for Breaking Bad, and we decided that his redeeming trait(concern for Todd) was visible enough to disqualify him, so maybe remove him from the YMMV page?

edited 26th Mar '17 2:56:48 PM by xie323

Miles Ed, Zhao, D'arby, Corset, Crowley, Johnny 23, Cade, Kira, Alfredo, Steely Dan, Virginia, Lystra, Garcia

On the "most hated CM" subject: Griffith/Femto, Frollo, Lotso, Freeza, Zamasu, Master Xehanort, Fire Lord Ozai, Dolores Umbridge, Joffrey Baratheon, Shou Tucker, Akihiro Kurata, Professor Hojo, Light Yagami, Elder Toguro, Wiseman, Ragyo Kiryuin, Medusa Gorgon, Angelus, Peter Pan, the Nibiru Entity, Bob Ewell, Koba, and Captain Vidal are great examples of villains I thoroughly despise for all the right reasons (as could be Ghetsis if that incarnation of him ends up being a keeper). Contrast with Ramsay Snow, Black Mask, The Fallen, the Unknown Man, Unalaq, John Doe, Troy Hicks, all three of the Akame ga Kill examples, and many of the crappy darkfic and creepypasta examples for ones that earn my hatred for all the wrong reasons.

edited 26th Mar '17 3:01:15 PM by ANewMan

I don't think Jack was removed from the main TV page either (plus there's an image of him).

edited 26th Mar '17 3:09:02 PM by ACW

• The Back Alley, by Junji Ito: Shinobu Uchiyama is a fourteen-year-old sociopath, and the one responsible for a series of murders that happened in the alley behind her mother's boarding house. Ever since she was a little girl, she was violently territorial towards the alley and murdered three little children who decided to play there one day. After her father fenced it off, Shinobu grew fond of using the alley as a killing ground, and as she grew older, she lured two classmates that she hated over and killed them, and eventually did the same to her own father before leaving taunting, vulgar graffiti celebrating their murders. The souls of her victims haunt the alley as vengeful ghosts who are permanently trapped due to not being able to climb out and attack Shinobu, who simply relishes in their suffering. When Ishida investigates the alley and tries to escape in order to call the police, Shinobu stabs him in the hand and causes him to fall, then smugly gloats about her crimes to a dying Ishida. Despite claiming that she has nothing against him, she giggles with glee once he succumbs to his wounds and casually tries to hide his body.
• Now and Then, Here and There: King Hamdo uses his floating fortress, Hellywood, to plunder resources from a desperate land as well as kidnap children to use as soldiers in his army. Introduced strangling his own cat to death, Hamdo reacts with psychotic glee upon learning his men have found a girl who possesses an amulet capable of creating water, a precious resource in his time. When he discovers she's lost said amulet and refuses to help him find it, Hamdo flies into a rage and is implied to rape her as punishment. So cowardly that any threat of his enemies coming close to him sends him into a panic, Hamdo orders his second-in-command to fire upon them, even while his own Child Soldiers are engaged with them on the frontline, caring nothing for them in the face of getting to save his own skin. Despite preaching a campaign to unify the desolate world, Hamdo's actions make it clear he's a self-serving, unintelligent bully whose only interest is in securing and consolidating his own power.
• Tomio: Red Turtleneck, by Junji Ito: In this cautionary tale about adultery, the nameless fortune teller proves to be among Junji Ito's most terrifying antagonists yet. Introduced as a sinister beauty who has an affair with the unfaithful Tomio, the fortune teller is revealed to be a psychotic witch obsessed with decapitating people and collecting their severed heads. She has twenty-five rotting heads on display in her mansion, and she puts a curse on Tomio after setting her sights on obtaining his head for her collection. What results is Tomio being decapitated through dark magic with only the force of him rooting his head in place keeping him alive, with the witch taunting him with the knowledge that the slightest bit of relaxation will kill him. In a physically and mentally torturous ordeal, a terrified Tomio desperately tries to keep his head connected to his body while he and his girlfriend Sonoka wait for an ambulance to arrive at her apartment. But instead of an ambulance, the fortune teller shows up at Sonoka's door with the intent to collect Tomio's head, but not before having a sadistic bit of fun with him. The fortune teller then proceeds to torture Tomio by probing around under his neck with a tarot card before letting a cockroach burrow its way inside his body, and then maniacally laughs at the resulting agony Tomio is put through. When Sonoka stabs her from behind, the fortune teller's last act is to try to kill her as well before dying from her wounds. Despite the curse on Tomio being lifted after her death, the fortune teller's twisted, sadistic torture is shown to have mentally traumatized the man at the story's end.
• Nailbiter: Garth "Morty" Diggins, better known as The Master, is the secret mastermind of the evil behind the town of Buckaroo, Oregon. Having come to Buckaroo decades ago, The Master experimented with killers to discover what turns a person into one. Having discovered a "Serial Killer gene", the Master took those who tested positive and mentally tortured them to activate the latent gene within them, resulting in over a dozen becoming serial killers known collectively as the Buckaroo Butchers. When Agent Finch and Sheriff Sharon Crane begin investigating the disappearance of an FBI agent who got too close to the truth, the Master reveals he tortured and mutilated said agent before turning an FBI agent into a killer to have her finish the job. Murdering many others who get too close to the truth, even creating a new serial killer to murder anyone who flees Buckaroo, the Master finally decides to start over elsewhere by trying to burn the entire town of Buckaroo to ash with its inhabitants, being more vile than any serial killer himself.
• Blood of Beasts: Sven is the finest warrior in a Norse tribe, and betrothed to Princess Freya. While hunting for the beast Agnar, Sven leaves his king to die so that he can claim the throne more quickly. His consolidation of power involves him threatening his supposed best friend's life if he talks about the battle and declaring that Freya will join him in Forced Marriage and bear him many children. When Freya rescues her father at the cost of her own capture, Sven decides to kill the king. He never gets the chance, though, because he has to join his fellow tribesmen in rescuing Freya so he can maintain his image, though he does take the time to declare that he will kill anybody who calls him a coward. The army rescue Freya and Sven leads them in seemingly killing Agnar, but the beast survives. This culminates in a duel on his and Freya's wedding, leading to Sven mortally sounding Freya in an attempted Mutual Kill on Agnar.
• The Chaser: Je Yeong-min, also known as Ji Young-Min or Young-min Jee, is a perverted Serial Killer who murders women to make up for his own impotence. A vicious lunatic even before his killing spree, Young-min brutally assaulted his own child nephew while babysitting him, leaving the boy lobotomized. Once he began to kill, Je tried various murder methods before deciding upon driving a chisel into his victim's skull to simulate sex, and goes on to murder around a dozen women through this method, burying them all in his garden. After attempting the same on Mi-jin, Je butchers an elderly couple who comes snooping around his property looking for a man Young-min is implied to have killed. Though Mi-jin manages to escape him temporarily, Je finds her at a grocery store, at which point he brutally murders both the store manager and Mi-jin with a hammer before decapitating Mi-jin and sticking her head on display in his fish tank. In his final depraved act, Je murders a dog with a shovel to prevent it from digging up his many victims, firmly showing himself to be nothing but a sadistic creep who covers up his insecurities with cruelty.
• Ninja Assassin: Lord Ozunu is the ruthless leader of the Ozunu clan, a clan which takes in orphaned children and raises them as Child Soldiers by putting them through intense training regimes, where he routinely abuses them. Such abuse includes whipping them to the point of leaving scars on their bodies and forcing them to compete in brutal sparring matches where they beat each other to a bloody pulp, all for the purpose of making them the perfect ninja assassins. These assassins would go after their targets via black sand in a letter as a calling card, striking in the dark or dimly lit places killing not only the targets but anyone allied or unfortunate enough to be in the same room as the target as to leave no witnesses. Years prior to the film, when Kiriko had tried to leave the clan Ozunu had her captured and killed and nearly does the same to Raizo when he betrays him as well. During his final confrontation with Raizo, Ozunu he nearly kills Mika by stabbing her where her heart is supposed to be, with a cold, apathetic look on his face.
• The Stendhal Syndrome (1996 Dario Argento film): Alfredo Grossi is a Serial Rapist and Serial Killer who has raped 15 women, killing the last two. He follows detective Anna Manni to her apartment and rapes her, taking her back to his car where she sees him rape and kill another woman. Alfredo lets Anna escape so he can recapture her and rape her again at a later date. Before going after Anna again, he rapes and kills another woman. He kills two officers to break into her apartment to rape her again. Though Anna kills Alfredo, the trauma from the two rapes she suffered, combined with her Stendhal Syndrome, drives her insane.
• The Wailing: The seemingly friendly shaman Il-Gwang is, in truth, in league with the demonic presence hanging over the rural village that is the film's setting. Along with his demonic partner, he sends in a Hate Plague to the village, which results in those infected murdering those around them before dying. When the police officer Jong-Goo investigates, he misleads him, resulting in police officer Jong-Goo's young daughter being infected. He feigns at being helpful while weakening the protections of the village's actual guardian spirit, finally resulting in Jong-Goo's death when his daughter kills him before snapping photos of the bodies, revealing that he keeps pictures of the victims as souvenirs of his deeds.
• Stardust Crusaders:
  • J. Geil, one of Dio Brando's henchmen, stands out as one of the vilest, and most sadistic, of the minor villains encountered by Jotaro and his friends. Driven by a lust for teenage girls, he raped and killed the young Sherry Polnareff (and attempted to murder her friend as well, succeeding in the OVA), prompting her brother Jean Pierre to join the heroes and seek revenge. He boasts that she was just one of countless girls that he raped and killed. When confronted by Polnareff and Kakyoin, he shows himself to be a coward of the highest order, placing his stand in the eyes of a little boy and telling his opponents that they'll never reach him without gouging out the boy's eyes. When this fails, he escapes and inflicts grievous, potentially fatal wounds on a man to dress him up as a decoy for a sneak attack. Finally, he attracts a crowd of at least 10 people, then hides his Stand among them before trying to goad Polnareff to mow them down by gloating about what he did to his sister. He dies showing nothing but pride in his actions.
  • Terence (Telence) T. D'Arby/D'Arby the Younger is the younger brother of Daniel J. D'Arby, and like him, has the ability to the ability to steal a person's soul when they admit defeat in their heart before turning them into dolls. Unlike his affable and nobler brother, any politeness Terence spews is an obvious attempt to hide the childish psychopath he really is, changing anybody who is defeated by him in a video game into a doll ,while, unlike Daniel, keeping them fully aware of their situation and powerless to do anything about it Besides having done this to at least 20 people, it is also implied that Terence is very abusive towards his brother, admitting to beating him nearly to death one time after catching him flirt with his girlfriend. When the heroes stumbles across his path, he traps them in Dio's basement and forces them to play videogames for their souls, while using his stand to give himself an advantage. Through these methods he defeats Kakyoin and adds him to the collection, intending to do the same to Jotaro and Joseph, threatening to kill Kakyoin if they attack him. While only a minor villain, Terence manages to be one of the few villains that the heroes show nothing but contempt and disgust for.
• Horst Mueller and Oberst Rausch (alias Karl Steiner), from season 2's "The Butcher", are a pair of Nazi war criminals. During the war, Rausch, known as "The Butcher", was an infamous torturer and murderer who met his death at the hands of Jack Marshak. Mueller, using the occult, revived Rausch and despite being imprisoned as a war criminal, directs Rausch to murder the former members of Jack's squad using his signature barbed wire as a strangulation device. Promoting fascist and bigoted ideals as a radio host, Rausch mentally torments Jack and the other survivors while he prepares to murder them. When confronted, Mueller declares their ultimate objective is for Rausch to enter politics and eventually bring about a rebirth of the Nazi regime, both believing they are the Master Race, destined to rise anew.
• Asteroth, from the two-part season 3 premier "The Prophecies", is a Fallen Angel and priest of Satan who is devoted to freeing his lord and master. Attempting to fulfill dark prophecies, Asteroth aims to kill a pure-hearted nun, first by infecting the minds of other nuns to drive them homicidal before they die, then driving the animals of the village murderously insane. When this fails, Asteroth brainwashes Ryan and has him murder the nun, before having him abduct a crippled girl with unshakeable faith in god so Asteroth can sacrifice her to Satan and have his master manifest in her body as The Antichrist. When he confronts Jack on his motivations, Asteroth gleefully reveals his future vision of the world, showing Jack images of mass destruction, death and oppression on a global scale. Intending to end the entire world, Asteroth is without doubt one of the cruelest monsters ever faced by Ryan and Micki.
• Dr. Levine, from season 1's "Organ Grinder", is the head doctor at a free clinic, known as the Folter Clinic. She is also the head of a ring of Geiers who harvest human organs in order to create products for Wesen. A Vulture-like race, Geiers are infamous for this disturbing practice, but traditionally they only targeted the dead or dying, befitting vultures' status as scavengers. Levine, however, takes this brutality a step further: luring or kidnaping homeless teenagers then vivisecting and eventually murdering them. Openly taking pleasure from her grizzly acts, she forces a boy named Hanson to watch as she prepares to cut open his sister, and barely cares as her subordinates are gunned down by Portland Police, when they rescue the teens. Having murdered countless people, all in the name of profit, Levine established herself as one of the most disturbed killers amongst a race of them.
• Kalinin's Proposal (Past and Future): SCP-001 is a member of an alien race with a humanlike morality but extremely twisted values, building their own perfection out of their gratitude towards others' suffering. The race wants humanity to return to their true origin, one of their nine moons, the Planet of Hands, as handless, indoctrinated slaves, born to die for them, and SCP-001's duty is to make humanity suffer on Earth so they would willingly return. SCP-001, capable of influencing anomalous phenomena on a cosmic scale, teleports many anomalies outside containment and upgrades their effects ^{Examples include:} Making SCP-106 dangerously intelligent, making SCP-993 target adult politicians instead of children, and making SCP-1808 grow worms out of their wearer's eyes, distributed in children's meals, obliterating all Foundation control efforts, causing horrendous damage to masses and disturbing global order. Before its finale, SCP-001 crucified SCP-990 and used his powers to send an ultimatum to O5-2, appearing as her dead child to emotionally torture her, driving her to suicide. In its finale, SCP-001 mutilates thousands in Egypt and floods China by removing the Three Gorges Dam, and successfully convinced thousands to flee to the Planet of Hands, followed by more. An actively evil intelligence holding a twisted logic, Kalinin's SCP-001 stands out as one of the SCP Wiki's most horrifically heinous characters.
• SCP-001:O5 (Bright—The Factory): In 1835, industrialist James Anderson, a secret follower of some unholy cult, created the Anderson Factory, publicly a massive worker's utopia, in truth a nightmarish hellhole. Workers were worked to death in inhuman conditions, injured workers were experimented into mad monstrosities, young girls young as eight were chained into "breeding pits" and subject to unspeakable horrors. Alongside normal products, the Factory produced horrible anomalous items that often do more harm to their users than good. Even after government agents raid the Factory and kill Anderson, Anderson, in an utterly inhuman and almost demonic form, made a deal with the founder of the Foundation, saving the Foundation from being defeated by The Fair Folk but reviving the Factory and forcing the Foundation to continuously feed it with people, ensuring that its terrible legacy lives on forever.
• Catalyst & Rogue One: Commander Orson Callan Krennic, The Sociopath who would eventually become Director of the Advanced Weapons Research division of the Imperial Military—and thus in charge of the creation of the Death Star, especially the superlaser—fought for the Republic as a Lieutenant Commander in the Clone Wars, where he revealed his true colors by massacring civilians and noncombatants whose only crime was being affiliated with Separatists. Upon the rise of the Empire, Krennic enthusiastically supported the new regime, both to make his dream of creating the Death Star a reality. Krennic frequently engineers schemes to give the Empire control of mining interests, and at one point engineers a war on one world, both so the Empire can end up brutally suppressing it and to distract Tarkin. Krennic frequently displays a tendency to betray and kill those who work with him. He is the Evil Former Friend of the pacifistic genius scientist Galen Erso, and acts as his False Friend, in order to use his research for the superlaser. When a group of engineers ask to be released from their contracts, Krennic simply obliterates their facility. When Erso escapes, Krennic tracks him down, resulting in the death of Galen's wife, and forces him to help design the Death Star. Krennic later has it tested on the civilian city of Jedha, and has innocent engineers massacred just to hurt Galen even after Galen admits to leaking information. Firmly dedicated to his own career, Krennic will betray or murder whoever he has to in order to keep the command he feels is his by right.
• Aftermath: Life Debt: Grand Moff Lozen Tolruck conceals the fall of the Emperor from his own men to continue ruling over the planet Kashyyyk as its king. Forcing the Wookiee race into slave labor by installing inhibitor chips that cause intense pain in the Wookiees, Tolruck also begins hunting them for sport and food. When the former Rebellion comes to liberate Kashyyyk, Tolruck continues his barbaric activities and tortures a rebel who falls into his hands, while also considering farming the Wookiee population for meat and crossbreeding them with Talz, a sentient species he finds especially delicious. When he realizes it's impossible to hold Kashyyyk, Tolruck ordered his small fleet of star destroyers to annihilate the entire world, declaring he will surrender Kashyyyk to no one, not even the Empire itself.
• Malachai "Kai" Parker, season 6's Big Bad, is a young and bloodthirsty witch with constant murder on the brain. In his past, Kai was denied the chance to preform the merge ritual with his twin sister Jo and lead the Gemini Coven, and retaliates by gleefully killing his other siblings, making his youngest siblings Luke and Liv his primary targets. Spending years in a prison world, Damon and Bonnie soon arrive, and Kai torments them until he escapes that world, leaving Bonnie behind. Intending to hunt Luke and Liv down, Kai promises to continue his murder spree on innocent people. Siphoning leftover magic from the Travelers, Kai experiments by torturing Elena, as the humans he tortures eventually die. He eventually comes up on top of the merge, but kills Luke in the process. Kai later teams up with vampire/witch hybrids, and helps them escape their own prison before attacking Jo and Alaric's wedding, killing Jo and seemingly her unborn babies. Kai kills himself to complete his transformation into a Heretic, and so that the Gemini Coven will die with him. His final act of cruelty is linking Bonnie to a comatose Elena, so that Elena can only awaken with Bonnie's death. While he goes through a phase of empathy and regret, it was only a temporary side effect of Luke's soul merging with Kai's. Making a return in season eight, Kai escapes Hell and find himself slowly dying, and considers killing for Cade in order to keep himself alive, before abducting Elena to hand her soul over to Cade, stealing a dagger that could kill Cade as an insurance policy. Upon discovering the survival of his young nieces, Josie and Lizzie, Kai goes on a final rampage to try to kill them, taunting Alaric about it as he hunts them down. Incapable of feeling real emotions, Kai's charm only thinly veils this deranged warlock, who does what he does because he "likes being a sociopath."
• Arcadius, aka Cade, from season 8, was the world's first psychic and was once loved and respected by his people. When betrayed and executed, Cade developed a hatred for humanity, and in his last moments used his power to create a Hellish dimension for him to rule over and feed on souls. After taking his revenge, Cade would corrupt Sybil and Seline into the cannibalistic sirens, leading to countless deaths, corruption and damnation over the centuries. Cade will also take the souls regardless of how small their sin was, if they were remorseful or otherwise good people. It's also discovered that Cade was the force dragging the denizens of the Other Side into Hell upon its destruction. When summoned to Earth, Cade is entertained by the notion of warping innocent three-year-olds Josie and Lizzie into his new servants, before Damon and Stefan offer themselves in their stead; Cade reveals to Stefan that he wants him specifically for his work as the Ripper and wants him to seek out innocent souls for him to claim. When an attempt to sacrifice Mystic Falls fails, Cade is summoned and has Seline and Sybil burned alive. When Damon regains his humanity, Cade tries to force Damon to kill a hundred strangers or kill Caroline as a sacrifice, before revealing he sent Stefan to track down and kill Elena; later, Cade uses Elena as a bargaining chip to find the weapon that can kill him and, in the final fight against him, tries to force Damon to choose between Stefan and Elena's soul before trying to claim Damon himself. Initially presented as a tragic and noble figure, Cade is not only aware he became the same pure evil he supposedly sought to eradicate, but is proud of it.

• Final Fantasy XV ^note Thematically part of the series, though mythos-wise it has disconnected from the core structure: Ardyn Izunia, real name Ardyn Lucis Caelum, poses as a "man of no consequence", but is far older and far crueler than he initially seems. As the Grand Chancellor of the Nifleheim Empire, Ardyn arranges for the invasion and destruction of Lucis's capital city Insomnia, and later reveals his true colors by gutting the game's heroine Lunafreya when she has summoned the Astral Leviathan, resulting in greater damage and the deaths of nearly everyone in the nearby city. With this death, an affliction known as the Starscourge is allowed to run rampant, turning many into monstrous daemons as the nights grow longer. Fixated on his chosen nemesis, Prince Noctis Lucis Caelum (known as Noct), Ardyn tricks him into almost murdering his best friend Prompto by making Noct see Prompto as Ardyn. Turning on Nifleheim, Ardyn lets daemons run rampant throughout the city, annihilating it and turning many of the people into Daemons themselves, leaving them in hideous pain. In addition, Ardyn reveals he is the one who taught Nifleheim how to convert people to living weapons to begin with, and tricks Noct into being absorbed by the Crystal that is the source of power for the line of Lucis. Awakening ten years later, Noct sees that Ardyn has made the world a twisted land where humanity faces annihilation, all for Noct's benefit so Ardyn can destroy him as the Chosen King at last. Despite his past of being rejected by the people he once saved, Ardyn's sadism, megalomania and utter acceptance of the monster he has become solidify him as a self-described true monster, and even after his defeat, he lurks in the afterlife for one last chance to destroy Noct and prevent him from saving the world, wishing nothing more than to damn the world out of spite.

edited 27th Mar '17 8:17:28 AM by ACW

ACW: there no space between Affably Evil so that the link can be seen like this Affably Evil.

also I don't see Serrator's new write up anywhere I did make one and sensed it to you

I fixed the Affably Evil thing; Serrator's one of the ones for next week.

ACW, where is Diablo, or is he going next week?

Diablo's wasn't on the Drafts, and it needs to be substantially trimmed.

I'm still unsure if five of the six monsters from Friday the Thirteenth should have there names tied to Monster of the Week.

I see what you're saying...though, technically, they DO all count for that distinction

Kind of hard for me to think of examples of a CM I hate for the right reasons. If I don't find a villain to be poorly written, then I tend to like them (or as I call it, love to hate them). I guess CM's with a holier than thou attitude Divine, Jean-Michel Roger Zamasu and Frollo would be close to those I hate for the right reasons. There's nothing about their personalities that I enjoy about them, but they were intentionally written like that and there's no real fault with their writing that I find in them so I'd hate them for the right reasons.

It's a funny coincidence that I brought up Vento Aureo, because Diavolo is the perfect example of a CM I hate for the wrong reasons. Outside of his paranoia, there's almost nothing memorable or interesting about his personality, he holds the Villain Ball far to often, and almost all of his villain dialogue puts me to sleep.

edited 26th Mar '17 3:59:10 PM by Awesomekid42

Is Final Fantasy XV still meant to be part of Fabula Nova Chrystallis? I looked it up and I guess so, even though it's distanced itself from the other games when it was rebranded.

Tarkin admired his uncle? Meh. He has a professional respect for Darth Vader and that's not disqualifying. And we have other monsters that remember family members fondly - for the wrong reasons. The Saboteur's Big Bad, for instance, lovingly recalls how his father taught him the joys of torture. That's creepy rather than sweet.

Dio spared his son's mother? Meh. He could have any reason.

Unless it's heavily elaborated on, we should just push it to the side and keep it in mind in case it actually becomes relevant.

I'm not sure if Final Fantasy XV is still part of the FNC or not. Square seems to want it to be it's own thing so they have distanced it from it. And Tarkin does respect his uncle but notin a way I see as redeeming. He seems to admire his savagery and sees him as a mentor but never seems to view him in a particularly affectionate way.

I added a note for XV, which I copied from the main XV page.

Yeah that's good.

I would like to have a CM removed. He's from the Agent Pendergast series of novels. The entry:

"Complete Monster: Diogenes Pendergast in the Dance of Death and Book of the Dead is a massive monster, and considering what happened to him as a child doesn't excuse his horrific actions. Through the course of two books he kills numerous close friends of his brother while taunting him about it and doing it to set him up for life in prison, enacts the same procedure that drove him insane on some unlucky souls as a test run before enacting the real thing on thousands of people at once, drugs up one of the oldest friends of Pendergast and D'Agosta after failing to kill her once so she's left in a death-like state and he can return to properly kill her whenever he wants, and tries to completely shatter the mental state of his brother's ward in order to get her to commit suicide simply For the Evulz. The fact that even before his proper introduction in the books his mere mention is enough to completely unnerve his usually very calm brother truly speaks volumes of how dangerous this man is."

I was thinking of disputing this anyway but I feel the latest novel in the series definitively excludes him from qualifying. Spoilers for "The Obsidian Chamber"

Upon his return, he vows to turn over a new leaf because he has fallen completely in love with Constance, the girl he previously seduced and tried to get to kill herself. It's made repeatedly clear by Constance's observations, Diogenes' own inner thoughts and his deeds that he truly loves her and is trying to restrain his old impulses. Over the course of the novel he does murder two people but one was a woman soon to die any way and the other was a doctor who surprised him. He was trying to extract from the women and subsequently the doctor a part of the human anatomy needed to synthesize a chemical that would keep Constance sane. She received an elixir of life thing for over a century and has been "off" it for 5 years, resulting in her body and mind failing so Diogenes needed these body parts to figure out how to recreate the formula and save her. The novel ends with him going off, broken and depressed because Constance rejected him and our heroes hoping he will continue to try and find a new and better path in life.

Welp, that's a disqualifier then.

Yeah, that definitely seems disqualifying, especially because the heroes let him go.

Cut Diogenes.

That sounds legitimately disqualifying so yeah Diogenes should be cut.

11x True, I'll think it over.