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"We all wear masks, and the time comes when we cannot remove them without removing some of our own skin."
Andre Berthiaume

Raise Your Voice Against Liars is a crossover between Miraculous Ladybug and Persona 5 by Naruwitch and BeeTeeDubya14.

It takes place shortly after Season 3 for Miraculous Ladybug, and after Futaba's Palace for Persona 5.

"A chance encounter on a school trip warps the reality between two groups of heroes."


Naruwitch has also done Code Geass: Paladins of Voltron.

Currently stands at 90 chapters.

This work contains examples of:

  • Adaptational Badass: Some of Marinette's classmates, including those who were not Miraculous holders, become Persona-users and join the Phantom Thieves.
  • Adaptational Dumbass:
    • Alya, who wants to be a professional journalist, repeatedly publishes Lila's lies as fact on her blog without ever making any sort of attempt to verify whether or not they're true, no matter how outrageous they are. However this is a Downplayed Trope as Alya had done something similar several times in canon, making this somewhat of an exaggeration of her usual behavior.
    • Mme. Bustier apparently never made even the slightest attempt to verify any of Lila's excuses for when she cut class, simply accepting Lila's excuse that her mother was too busy with her work at the embassy to be bothered by a phone call. Again somewhat of an exaggeration from canon, as she never seemed to check Lila's excuses in Chameleon.
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  • Adaptational Early Appearance: In a way, Haru/Noir. In the game, she is only spoken to briefly during the Hawaii trip before she joins the team. Here, she’s the one who indirectly sets off the Thieve’s tirade against Lila when she asks her not to lie about her father’s business.
  • Adaptational Jerkass:
    • Mme. Bustier, who very nearly crosses into Adaptational Villainy territory. She eventually reaches that territory when the Phantom Thieves discover some very unsettling things about her.
    • Also Alya, who goes from being Marinette's best friend in canon to a mindlessly obedient Beta Bitch to Lila, turning on and tormenting Marinette note . She also expects Marinette to instantly and completely forgive her after she apologizes, and then acts like Marinette's the one with the problem when she refuses. She's such a Jerkass in the fic that Marinette declares her to be unworthy of wielding a Miraculous, and strips her of her status as Rena Rouge.
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  • Adaptational Sexuality: Some members of the Phantom Thieves are revealed to be homosexual. Akira and Ryuji, for example, are in a relationship while Ann is asexual. Morgana apologizes to her in light of learning about this.
  • Adaptational Villainy: All the thieves' targets are people who, while canonically at least questionable, weren't the sort of complete monsters that the Phantom Thieves normally deal with. Needless to say, they've become substantially worse people in order to justify them being targets of the Phantom Thieves.
    • Lila. Dear god, Lila. You thought she was bad in Miraculous? As Marinette and the Phantom Thieves later learn, she was not the only person Lila went out of her way to harass or ruin their social life beyond repair. She's done it to countless others, some of whom have committed suicide.
    • Mme. Bustier in canon was a Misplaced Kindergarten Teacher at worst who genuinely wanted to help her students (hence taking an Akuma for Marinette) but was a a bit too permissive towards Chloe and Lila. Here, she is a major target with the sin of Apathy, and the she only cares about her class to the extent they make her look good.
    • Bob Roth's worst canon crime was plagiarism. While he was an unlikeable person and did favor XY, he most certainly wasn't a human trafficker.
    • The human Big Bad of Persona 5, Masayoshi Shido, manages to top even his canonical horrific behavior by implying he'd be willing to start a world war to bring Japan to greatness.
  • Adaptation Name Change:
    • Some of the Miraculous holders get to become heroes again, though since Hawkmoth knows their identities, they have to use different Miraculous, costumes, and aliases as to not alert him.
    • Downplayed by Haru's Metaverse code name. In canon, it's Noir; in this story, the French party members point out that Noir without an 'e' is the masculine form of the word (ex. Chat Noir) and the feminine form is Noire.
  • Adult Fear: Juleka is nearly kidnapped by two men (and is revealed be have been stalked) in Chapter 63, and it’s confirmed that Bob Roth fully intends to sell her to someone in Germany.
  • Armor-Piercing Question: When Adrien explains to the class and to the Phantom Thieves that one of his reasons for not exposing Lila is because he was afraid she would get akumatized, Makoto asks him if he ever thought about Marinette potentially getting akumatized because of Lila’s bullying. His Oh, Crap! expression says it all.
  • Ascended Extra: Shiho Shizui gains a bigger role in the story as she ends up transported to Mementos, and with the Phantom Thieves' help, awakens to her Persona and joins them.
  • The Atoner: A major portion of Marinette’s class, not just the ones that join the Phantom Thieves, becomes this after they learn the truth about Lila in verifying degrees. note 
  • Be Careful What You Wish For: When Marinette explains the Ultimate Power of the Ladybug and Cat Miraculouses to the Phantom Thieves, Yusuke, Futaba, and Makoto are instantly suspicious that there's some sort of catch due to it sounding to good to be true, Futatab even mentioning The Monkey's Paw, with Marinette agreeing due to how the universe works on a Balance Between Good and Evil. When asked if Hawk Moth might be aware of any price, Marinette admits that she's half-convinced he dosen't know, and half-convinced he dosen't care.
  • Because I Said So: Gabriel and Nathalie resort to using this line to keep Adrien home from school on the day of Lila's confession, expecting an opportunity for a mass akumatization event and wanting to keep him out of the crossfire but unable to explain this for obvious reasons.
  • Big Bad Ensemble: Miraculous Ladybug's Big Bad Hawk Moth is the most prominent threat to the heroes, but Persona 5's Big Bad Masayoshi Shido is still hovering in the background making his own play for power.
  • Bitch Slap: Lila's mother slaps Mme. Bustier in front of the class, furious at the teacher for not contacting her about Lila's supposed diseases and injuries. Mme. Bustier tries to excuse that she couldn't reach her, so Ms. Rossi slaps her again, as the school could have tried contacting her at the embassy where she works.
  • Broken Pedestal: Several characters are this in Paris:
    • First is unsurprisingly Lila Rossi. Everyone is horrified by Lila due to her lying to her classmates for two years, by revealing her cooperation with Hawkmoth, framing Marinette for everything that never happened, threatened her by taking everything she holds dearly, and for driving students who called her out to suicide.
    • Marinette no longer looks up to Ms. Bustier due to allowing Chloe and Lila to get away with their schemes for two years. This is taken Up to Eleven upon learning she has a palace and discovering her dark secrets (such as how she sees her students, particularly Marinette, as porcelain dolls with cracks, with Marinette’s receiving the worst). It proves so horrifying, she has a panic attack and has to be taken to a safe room by the Phantom Thieves to calm her down.
    • Ms. Bustier's class and Ms. Mendeleiev are horrified upon learning what Ms. Bustier has done: treating her students horribly, molding them into taking different interests, punishing students who attempted to disrupt her order, and for doing all this just to get back with Nathaniel’s dad.
  • Calling the Old Man Out: Done multiple times.
    • First is done by Kagami to the Shadow of her mother for being way too controlling of her.
    • Nathaniel also does this to Shadow Bustier during the battle with her, outright stating that she is not his mother unless she changes for the better.
  • Control Freak:
    • Tomoe Tsurugi, to the point where she wanted to transfer Kagami to a different school, causing Kagami to anonymously put up a request on the PhanSite to change her heart. And ultimately, Kagami ends up confronting her mother’s Shadow herself when she’s accidentally transported to Mementos, awakening to her Persona in the process.
    • Bustier is one as well: She tries to influence her students into taking career paths that are not suited for them in order to have a diverse class and never tries to actually help her students, instead forcing bully victims to never stand up for themselves and to forgive their bullies in order to ‘keep the peace’ and to ‘be a good example’ (even going to the point of trying to force Marinette to forgive Lila for her bullying AFTER Lila’s confession). This ultimately ended up negatively affecting not only her current class, but her past classes as well, as M. Garçon and his classmates ended up either as abusive authority figures, criminals, or dead from drug overdoses in some cases. The rest are in therapy.
  • Cool Teacher: Ms. Kawakami goes right up to bat to defend Marinette from Lila and Ms. Bustier.
  • The Corrupter: It's noted that Lila has an uncanny ability to bring out the worst in people (cranking Alya's passion for journalism into a hunger for sensationalism, turning the milquetoast Adrien into a spineless doormat, and inflating Max's ego enough to override all common sense, for example).
  • Creepy Doll: The students' cognitions in Mme. Bustier's Prison's cell complex are life-like porcelain dolls. They're only recognizable as such because of the sheen of their bodies and most of them showing some kind of damage like cracks and chips. Their existence unsettles the Phantom Thieves, as they show how Mme. Bustier sees her students as objects that she uses for her own ends and mistreats if they displease or disappoint her.
  • Darker and Edgier: The subject matter covered is far darker than canon Miraculous Ladybug. While the worst danger in canon is a cackling Silver Age supervillain, the worst dangers here are things like being driven to suicide by a bully, abuse of authority, and human trafficking.
  • Didn't See That Coming: Persona users derail several of Hawkmoth and Mayura's plans, since they're an Outside-Context Problem and still an unknown concept to them at the current point of the story.
  • Didn't Think This Through:
    • Adrien was so concerned with keeping Lila happy, he failed to realize how bad things had gotten for Marinette, or how harmful Lila’s lies could be, or how badly his classmates would take the reveal as Lila’s confession ended up causing a mass akumatization incident. The Phantom Thieves call him out for this when he and the rest of the class tries to apologize to Marinette for their actions.
    • Subverted for Marinette, Luka, Marinette’s classmates, and the Phantom Thieves. They quickly realize that Lila’s confession would cause an akuma outbreak and spend some time preparing for it. They do it again for Ms.Bustier, showing that they are fully aware that the confessions will cause akumas and will prepare for them properly, rather then let their targets continue their abuse of power to avoid akuma attacks.
  • Disqualification-Induced Victory: Mmd. Bustier no longer qualifies for the position as the new principal due to her change of heart and being arrested for her crimes, thus Mmd. Mendeleiev wins due to having the second highest votes.
  • Door Slam of Rage: Invoked Trope. Since she knows that Lila's confession likely will cause a mass akumatization, Marinette deliberately makes a dramatic and seemingly furious exit during said confession and slams the door of the classroom behind her. That prompts every person's emotions to overflow, drawing Hawkmoth's attention.
  • Dramatic Irony:
    • In Chapter 41, Nino suggests in the chat that the Phantom Thieves one day should target Gabriel Agreste for how he treats Adrien, which is brushed aside because it's irrelevant to the current topic. The Phantom Thieves at one point discuss that they can and have to bring Hawkmoth down, but need to know his civilian identity's name to access his Palace. Hawkmoth and Gabriel Agreste are the same person.
    • In Chapter 57, Ladybug compares Chat Noir and Adrien with each other regarding their naïve black-and-white worldview.
    • In the same chapter, Hawkmoth wonders why Ladybug hasn't made Fox!Yusuke a permanent Miraculous Wielder if he's immune to being akumatized. He guesses right that the Tokies live far away from Paris, so it's harder for her to call on them on short notice. What he doesn't know is that not only the Tokies, but almost every current Miraculous wielder is immune to his powers.
  • Driven to Suicide: Lila has done this to previous schoolmates who have refused to fall under her thrall. Marinette nearly succeeded in killing herself, but Luka found and saved her before it could take.
  • Enfant Terrible: Lila has been a sociopathic bully who has ordered her classmates mutilated and driven them to suicide since the age of 11.
  • Et Tu, Brute?: After Lila's confession, Marinette is forced to confront how badly her "friends" let her down. She ranks them all on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being no harm done and 10 being This Is Unforgivable!; Alya and Adrien rank 8s, Kim, Rose, and Max all rank 6s, and Nino and Alix rank 2 and 3 respectively. After Lila leaves, everyone except Alya manages to lower their ranking.
  • Even Evil Has Standards:
    • It's noted that even Hawk Moth's stomach churns a bit when he finds out Lila has driven some of her former classmates to suicide.
    • Hawk Moth and Mayura are just as horrified as anyone else when Okumura's mental shutdown takes effect and kills him. Hawk Moth frantically denies responsibility and displays further rage at the thought of someone taking a parent away from their child (as a widower and single father, he'd know), and both of them speculate the Phantom Thieves may have done it in earnest good faith.
  • Everyone Has Standards:
    • Sae, while listening to the story in the Flash Forward, expresses her own disgust as usual with the Parisian targets despite being the final target of the Flash Forward narrative.
    • Kawakami may not be winning teacher of the year in her own book, but even she finds the way Bustier mishandles her class problematic and reads her the riot act after a second fight between the Shujin students and the Dupont students, and not doing anything to reel in Lila's lying.
    • Ms. Mendeleiev is ashamed to find out her colleague has been incredibly apathetic to her role as a teacher.
    • Anarka Couffaine is a known rebel amongst the Parisian adults, and doesn't like the police. But that doesn't stop her from calling them when her daughter is targeted by kidnappers.
    • XY is horrified and disgusted by the things his horrible dad has done.
  • Evil Teacher: Ms. Bustier proves to be the second-worst teacher in the history of teachers (nobody beats Kamoshida). She sees her students as nothing but dolls to be molded as she desires for her own fame and fortune so she can win back her ex-husband.
  • Extreme Doormat: Deconstructed. Living with his emotionally neglectful and abusive father - who controls Adrien's entire daily life and schedule, finds fault in everything he does, doesn't listen to his son's arguments, and forces him to treat him like royalty - has left Adrien a passive, obedient people-pleaser. This nature in the face of social conflict in his civilian life, not to mention his lacking social skills, have majorly contributed to Marinette's suffering under Lila. Adrien was also afraid that the class wouldn't have believed him either and would have shunned him like they did Marinette. So instead of standing up for her to stop the bullying, inquiring about her wellbeing, investigating what Lila was doing, or disproving her lies, he let Lila's actions continue and escalate. Adrien's cognitions in Lila and Mme. Bustier's Palaces underscore that. In Lila’s Empire, his cognition is a completely silent and perfectly obedient Sex Slave, complete with a chain on his neck. In Mme. Bustier Prison's cell complex, each of the dolls representing the students show at least some damage, meaning that they went against Mme. Bustier's expectations or displeased her. Only Adrien's doll is unscathed.
  • Fatal Flaw: Adrien has plenty.
    • Adrien's need to please and make everyone around him happy. He abandoned Marinette in his plan to keep Lila happy so that the latter wouldn't be akumatized, and was also afraid of being bullied if he stood up for her or himself. This has destroyed his bonds with both Marinette and Nino, two of his closest (and only) friends.
    • Adrien also has a tendency to fall into tunnel vision and black-and-white thinking. He didn't realize that Marinette's suffering made her susceptible to akumas or that Lila would never change (especially while being pandered to). And while he has every right to be suspicious of the Phantom Thieves, he also fails to consider the good they are doing, or the greater picture that many more people abusing their influence like Hawkmoth exist and need to be stopped. Displaying these traits as Chat Noir has made Ladybug reluctant to tell him about her involvement with the Phantom Thieves.
    • On a different note, he doesn't handle rejection well. He reacts inappropriately as Chat Noir in whose disguise he feels more comfortable showing his frustrations. It's understandable given his upbringing, but he repeatedly showed an entitled attitude to Ladybug's affections and the knowledge of her identity, straining their partnership.
  • Foil:
    • Mme. Bustier serves as one to Madarame. Both are teachers, but while Madarame is an artist, Bustier is a school teacher. Madarame plagiarized the artworks of his students and Bustier goes out of her way to convince her students to take up career paths different from their classmates, even if that career doesn't suit them.
    • Kim can also be considered this to Alya. While Alya does want to make it up to Marinette, it’s clear she expects to be Easily Forgiven and is refusing to take things slow, making a big plan to "get her back." Kim, on the other hand, has realized he would probably not be forgiven and is making small attempts, such as going on jogs with Marinette and checking to see if she is okay. As a result, Alya is still on bad terms with Marinette, while Kim is slowly regaining her trust and her friendship, though Kim becoming a Phantom Thief has also helped him with rebuilding his friendship with Marinette. Even how they take their replacements as Miraculous Holders can be this: Alya takes hers so poorly, she ends up getting akumatized into Rena Rogue and battles Fox!Yusuke for the Fox Miraculous and angrily confronts Ladybug about it after, while Kim ultimately accepts his, asking Ryuji to take care of Xuppu.
    • Adrien can also be seen as one to Black Mask a.k.a. Goro Akechi. Both put up a presentable mask while in public while expressing their real selves as their alter egos (which both hold the power of destruction), have abusive fathers note  and both desire to have friends. However, while Goro had grown up in multiple child institutions while Shido was absent from his childhood, Adrien was always under Gabriel’s ‘care’. Goro also used his powers to commit crimes, while Adrien genuinely wishes to do good as Chat Noir. Adrien is open about not wanting to be alone and tries to keep the friends he has note  while Goro doesn’t admit it until he is confronted, and in Royal, refuses to reconnect with the Thieves due to his crimes, seeing himself as unworthy of their friendship. Finally, Adrien's criticisms of the Phantom Thieves are done from a legitimate fear of them abusing their powers, while Goro's are just a front.
  • Forgiven, but Not Forgotten: DEFIED! Marinette makes it clear that, under no circumstance, she will ever forgive Lila for nearly ruining her life with her bullying. This earns her resounding applause from a large majority of students, even Adrien's own bodyguard.
  • Freudian Excuse Is No Excuse: No one accepts Adrien’s excuses note  for not doing anything regarding Lila, with the Phantom Thieves quickly countering them. note 
  • Grew a Spine: Marinette, with help from the Phantom Thieves and Luka, ultimately culminating with her rejecting Lila’s public apology to her, despite being expected to forgive Lila. Everyone except for her class applaud her for it.
  • Guile Hero: Ryuji, of all people, gets to be one. With a mere two conversations, he forces Max to acknowledge the fact that the napkin Lila "saved" him from was completely harmless and forces Marinette's entire class to acknowledge that if Jagged Stone wrote a song dedicated to Lila (a minor), he'd be a pedophile.
  • History Repeats: Many of the events in the fic echo events in Persona 5.
    • Marinette and Luka accidentally happen upon the first target's Palace, are captured for trespassing, and are nearly executed; they are only saved by Marinette awakening to her Persona. Akira and Ryuji underwent the same process with Shadow Kamoshida.
    • The Phantom Thieves are initially reluctant to change the first target Lila/Kamoshida's heart; they change their tune when they discover the target's actions have led people to attempt suicide.
    • Marinette's first Mementos target was victimized by the second Palace target, and directs the Phantom Thieves to said target after his own change of heart; this echoes Nakanohara and Madarame in canon.
    • The third target, Bob Roth/Kaneshiro, is a member of organized crime whose distortion covers an entire city.
  • Horrible Judge of Character: Adrien shows this multiple times, first believing that Lila is a misunderstood girl that is lying only because she wants friends and would have eventually stopped, and then that the Phantom Thieves are potential threats that will eventually abuse their power and should be taken down. This is in addition to his canonical defenses of Chloe in regards to her horrendous behavior. At the same time, however, he is starting to outgrow this due to Lila’s confession, as he is able to quickly realize that Bustier would make a terrible principal. And while Adrien is jumping to conclusions regarding the Phantom Thieves, he is not the only one. Their operations look suspicious from the outside and nobody knows what their methods are. note 
  • Hypocrite: Mme. Bustier doesn't follow and believe in her sayings about 'being a good example'. She knew from the start that Chloe's behavior at school was unacceptable. But instead of curbing her bullying or talking with her father to find a solution, she basically kept Marinette as a distraction for Chloe to focus the majority of her bullying on, until somebody else came along to stop her, while Mme. Bustier had all the means to do it herself. Her Shadow also claims that she has moved on from Mr. Kutzberg to "better things", but her Treasure reveals that she wants to get back with him.
  • Immune to Mind Control: Persona users cannot be Akumatized. Hawk Moth tries this on Yusuke and the results are quite painful for the former.
  • Inspector Javert: Mixing in with Sympathetic Inspector Antagonist, Chat Noir becomes this towards the Phantom Thieves, as he thinks they are blackmailing their targets into confessing and will abuse their powers. note 
  • Interrupted Suicide: Before the story's start, Luka walked in on Marinette slashing her wrists out of despair at having to deal with Lila and saved her life.
  • Karma Houdini Warranty: Why Chloe is only mentioned in the story: She was sent to a boarding school in Sweden by her father after a public outcry regarding her willingly working with Hawkmoth in the Miracle Queen incident and her not being punished for endangering lives in the past.
  • Loads and Loads of Characters: The merged casts of Persona and Miraculous Ladybug make for quite a large amount of characters.
  • Locked Out of the Loop: Chat Noir admits to Ladybug how painfully aware that he is this, and how he wishes she would trust him enough to tell him the truth about her decisions about the heroes, their identities and to let him have a say on who should get a Miraculous. Unfortunately, his inability to deal with the frustration of this has resulted in him developing an attitude problem towards the choices Ladybug makes (such as him showing a negative attitude with the new heroes and then lashing out at Ladybug when he finds out Luka/Kobra knows who she is) which in turn, makes Ladybug even more reluctant to fully disclose information to him.
  • Luke, I Am Your Father: It's revealed that Ms. Bustier is Nathaniel's mother.
  • Mama Bear:
    • Sabine (and by extension, Tom) fits this to a subtle T when Kim comes by with the offer to jog with Marinette the first time. While Tom is the one that makes the vocal threat, Sabine standing by the counter with a kitchen knife making apple juice (not to mention the juice looks strangely red in the lighting) does little to calm Kim's nerves.
    • Anarka tosses aside her long-standing disdain for the police when Juleka is nearly kidnapped by human traffickers.
  • Mundane Solution: During Ann's first run as Bombshell, Ladybug gets a champagne bottle for a Lucky Charm and struggles to come up with a plan to use it. Bombshell clubs the akuma with it.
  • My God, What Have I Done?:
    • Lila's confession hits Adrian so hard that, right before Hawkmoth starts Akumatizing students left and right, he breaks down in the school bathroom and realizes how badly he's screwed up about telling Marinette to just endure Lila's bullying.
    • All of the class gets hit with this when Lila confesses. Kim in particular is hit hard, as he realizes that not only was Marinette telling the truth, she also was innocent of all the things Lila had accused her of, which drove him to bullying and isolating her.
  • No-Sell: When Hawkmoth tries to akumatize Fox!Yusuke (who is suffering from fear due to Reverser) during the akuma break-out, Goemon interferes, using the connection to cause pain to Hawkmoth (and Yusuke, and all akumatized victims) while telling him that he isn’t welcome and that he’s already claimed Yusuke. The pain ultimately forces Hawkmoth to cut the connection, saving Yusuke from being akumatized. However, Word of God says that the immunity isn't perfect, as Persona users can still be akumatized if the offer appeals to them truly.
  • Official Couple: Marinette and Luka, Adrien and Kagami, Akira and Ryuji.
  • Pull the Thread: The Phantom Thieves note  do this to Lila, putting her on the spot and actually pressing her for details on her lies, forcing her to repeatedly backpedal and revise her stories as they begin to fall apart under even the slightest bit of scrutiny.
  • Put on a Bus: Before the start of the story, the aftermath of "Miracle Queen" resulted in Chloé getting sent off to boarding school in Sweden.
  • Pyrrhic Victory: Ms.Bustier ended up winning the principal election, but due to having her heart changed, she breaks down onstage, confessing her crimes and stating she doesn’t deserve to be principal. After her Akuma is dealt with, she’s arrested, officially ensuring she can’t serve as the principal despite winning.
  • Related in the Adaptation: As revealed in Chapter 51, Mme. Bustier is Nathaniel's birth mother.
  • "The Reason You Suck" Speech: Kawakami at the end of the Hawaii trip, after helping break up yet another argument between the Dupont and Shujin students, absolutely RAILS Bustier about her completely unprofessional teaching methods, Akumas in Paris be damned. She admits she's far from perfect herself, but she finds Bustier's failure to do anything about Lila's Consummate Liar status and Marinette's status as the class' "good example" disgusting.
  • Reasonable Authority Figure: Kawakami has made strides from the near apathetic figure she was at the start of the game. The best case of this is shown when Marinette is tripped by Lila during the Hawaii trip, Kawakami scolded Bustier for her students' behaviors and for her beliefs of setting a good example, saying a real good example would have been helping Marinette pick up her things.
  • Rejected Apology: Marinette does this multiple times.
    • First she rejects Lila’s public apology to her, calling her out for trying to ruin her life just because she wouldn’t grovel at her feet and declaring she will never forgive her.
    • She then rejects her class’s apologies to her after. She asks if they just want things to go back to the way they were, points out how easily they could had found proofnote , and calls out how easily they turned against her.note 
    • Finally, she rejects Adrien’s personal apology, telling him how much he had hurt her with his abandonment of her. note 
  • Second Super-Identity: The heroes all change Miraculouses like they change socks. Luka and Kagami also regain their old Miraculouses, but under new codenames due to having been outed to Hawk Moth beforehand.
  • Secret Keeper: Luka starts off as knowing Marinette's identity due to finding her earrings after interrupting her suicide attempt. Later on, all of the Phantom Thieves learn the Miraculous holders' identities.
  • Secret Secret-Keeper: Chat Noir overhears Kagami as Dragonica mutter how she doesn't want to fail Ladybug "again", cluing him in to her identity. He keeps it to himself to prevent her from losing her Miraculous.
  • Sequel Goes Foreign: Not a sequel exactly, since this takes during both Persona 5 and Miraculous's stories, but the Phantom Thieves exploits soon extend to Paris, courtesy of their encounter with Marinette during their field trip to Hawaii. Chapter 74 strongly hints that Hawk Moth is planning to make a move on Japan as well.
  • Seven Deadly Sins: Like the Palaces in Tokyo, the Palaces in Paris are based on these.
    • Lila: Empire of Mendacity, based on Pride and the old concept of Vainglory (deceitful boasting).
    • Mme. Bustier: Prison of Apathy, based on Sloth.
    • Bob Roth: Jungle of Audacity.
  • Skewed Priorities:
    • Adrien fails to see long-term consequences in favor of short-term placation. He'd rather keep everyone happy to avoid an akuma, which is impossible. Everyone includes people who need to be stopped in their actions like Lila or Mme. Bustier, who are abusing the people around them and causing much more harm (and akumas) in the long-term. And while his concerns about the Phantom Thieves' goals have merit, even if their operations do cause akumas, Hawkmoth will always find other events to abuse as long as he has the Butterfly Miraculous.
    • Alya would rather have Marinette forgive her instantly instead of owning up to the fact how much she hurt her and making proper amends.
  • Stupid Good: Adrien earnestly means well, but his naivete and poor social skills lead him to grossly overestimate Lila and Chloe's desire to change themselves for the better and make multiple bad judgement calls in dealing with them.
  • Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: Several cases pop up in different chapters. Enough to warrant its own page.
  • Take That!: In Feed Your Soul Like Fire, serves as one in Ryuji’s rank 8 confident. Instead of standing there letting Ryuji’s former track team beat him up, Akira stops them from doing so, pointing out that Ryuji is as much as victim during Kamoshida’s abuse, that Kamoshida is to blame instead of Ryuji and lastly stating that if they beat up Ryuji, they’re no better than Kamoshida and makes them apologize to Ryuji or just leave. They do leave, but not before apologizing to Ryuji.
  • Took a Level in Badass: The majority of the cast gets this, as Marinette and her classmates awaken to their Personas and become Phantom Thieves, while the Phantom Thieves themselves become temporary holders of some of the Miraculouses.
  • Took a Level in Kindness: The students at Shujin note  certainly have, as they all yell at Lila for trying to make the Phantom Thieves look like bullies when they call out her lies.
  • Toxic Friend Influence: Lila's sway over the class has changed many of the students for the worse even after she has left, like making Alya more stubborn or Adrien more passive.
  • Trophy Room: Lila's Empire has two.
    • The Trophy Garden. It’s where Shadow Lila has the statues note  of the people who believe in her lies, and harvest their goals and dreams (in the form of flowers) as fuel for her lies.
    • On a much more disturbing level, she has two for her deceased victims. One being an area where her victims are shown crucified with their heads on pikes and have plates explaining their ‘crimes’, while the other is full of shelves filled with items that explains what each victim’s dream/passion wasnote . And in both of those areas, she has prepared spots for Marinette, her next intended victim.
  • True Companions: The Phantom Thieves very quickly become this to Marinette during their trip to Hawaii; spending time with her, complimenting her fashion designs, defending her from Lila and most importantly, telling her to stand up for herself and that her feelings do matter. May also be a case of Big Brother Instinct since Marinette is confirmed to be younger then the majority of the Thieves and they know just how bad lies can be due to their pasts.
  • Unfortunate Implications: In-universe example. One of Lila's lies is that Jagged Stone wrote a love song about her. The Phantom Thieves point out that that would mean that Jagged Stone (a fully-grown adult) wrote a love song professing his romantic interest in Lila (a teenage girl).
  • We Can Rule Together: Mayura offers Chat a cut of the Wish in exchange for his aid in fighting Ladybug. Chat tells her to shove it.
  • We Used to Be Friends: After all that Lila's done to wreck her social life to FUBAR levels, Marinette obviously doesn't consider Alya and the others to be her friends. She also refuses to accept their apologies and attempts to rekindle their friendship, although she does start to reconnect with a few of them, particularly those that have joined the Phantom Thieves.
  • Wham Episode:
    • Chapter 60: The Phantom Thieves encounter Shadow Shiho in Mementos instead of their intended target, and it is highly implied that the girl that has entered Mementos by accident is Shiho herself.
    • Chapter 61: Shiho awakens to her Persona and joins the team.
    • Chapter 74, anyone? Gabriel plans to expand his business to Japan, as a result of the third major Change of Heart he sensed.
    • Chapter 88 ends on a cliffhanger, with Kunikazu Okumura becoming akumatized.
  • Wham Line:
    • When Nathaniel is held hostage and looks as though he's about to be killed by Shadow Bustier, he asks if he's going to be reunited with his mom after she kills him. Bustier gives him a rather startling revelation:
      Shadow Bustier: You said dead as if she's passed on... but the truth is that I've moved onto better things than your father!
    • In Chapter 80, Shiho very casually drops an unexpected bombshell.
      Shiho: One of my therapists. Narukami-san's been nothing but a blessing.
      Akira raised an eyebrow. Surely it wasn't that Narukami...!
  • What the Hell, Hero?:
    • The Phantom Thieves give one to Adrien after Lila’s confession for naively allowing her to continue bullying and isolating Marinette and lying to the class, countering all of his excuses for doing so. Becomes an Et Tu, Brute? moment when Marinette and Nino remind him of his promise to support her throughout Lila’s reign, only to ultimately turn his back on her to ‘uphold his illusion of peace.’
    • Chat Noir tries to give one to Ladybug for letting Luka/Kobra keep his knowledge of her civilian identity note , saying she should had erased his memories. Both Ladybug and Kobra very quickly shut him down, calling him out for his insistence for an identity reveal that Ladybug is not ready for.
    • Ann and Akira call out Morgana in Feed Your Anger Like Fire, when he makes fun of Ryuji due to the theme of the miraculous.
  • Would Hurt a Child: Discussed. The Phantom Thieves are initially leery of changing Lila's heart because she is the first prominent target to be a minor and it may damage their reputations. Then they find out she has been driving her victims to suicide since the age of 11, and all of their objections go out the window.
  • Wrong Context Magic:
    • This applies to Personas on the Paris side, where magic is known to exist because of the Miraculous. Except for the Phantom Thieves themselves, nobody else knows that their operations are based on a different kind of magic with its own set of rules, which lets them operate invisibly to the public. The Parisians believe that the Phantom Thieves blackmail their targets.
    • Personas don't play nice with Hawkmoth's use of the Butterfly Miraculous. When he tries to akumatize Fox!Yusuke, made vulnerable by fear due to Reverser, Goemon interferes. As Hawkmoth doesn't know about the concept of Persona, he has no idea what repelled him, or that most of the current Miraculous wielders have become largely immune to his powers, too. Even if he tried to akumatize one of heroes when they're in their civilian life, he couldn't be sure that they're wielders since other people have rejected his akumas before.
  • You Dirty Rat!: When Chat sees a guy on the street kick a rat, he can't muster any sympathy for the rat because they're dirty and spread disease.
  • You Remind Me of X: Alya's behavior reminds Mishima of his own behavior at his lowest point, when he was only using the Phantom Thieves as vehicles for his own personal fame.
  • You Said You Would Let Them Go: What Bob Roth intends for the Couffaines. He wants to have Juleka kidnapped and demand a ransom, while secretly sending her to Germany instead.
  • Your Mind Makes It Real: Due to the nature of Cognition, this trope heavily affects Shadows, as shown when the Parisian Phantom Thieves bring nerf guns to the final raid on Lila's Palace, they work like real guns due to the Japanese Phantom Thieves painting them black.


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