Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
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means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles:
Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles:
The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM
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Eucliwood Hellscythe Goddess of Blessed with Suck and Communciating via Notepad (Eu)
- Greater Goddess (Overdeity if she could effectively control her power)
- Symbol: Her Notebook and armor
- Alignment: Neutral Good
- Portfolio: Story-Breaker Power that can't be controlled by any normal means, Doesn't talk and only communicates via notepad
- Domains: Death, Power
- Allies: Ayumu, Haruna, Gyubid, Madoka
- Enemies: Ghetsis, Albert Wesker, Lucifer
- Ascended after Ayumu invited her into pantheon and was hoping that some of god could help her control her power.
- After hearing about the series of events surrounding the Great Upheval. She rather wary believing she could be next especially considering her power could rival Madoka's.
- She apparently has many voices according to Ayumu's delusions. Why none of them sound the same? No one knows for sure.
- Is also a member of the Magical Girl Sisterhood after demonstrating the ability to transform into one.
- Do not talk about death so casually in front of her. It'll piss her off.
- Also do not harm her friends, she'll will hurt you.
Houkago Tea Time members Goddesses of Girl Rock Bands Star Making Roles (Houkago Tea Time, Tsumugi: Mugi, Azusa: Azu-nyan)
- Intermediate Goddesses
- Theme Song: Cagayake Girls, Pure, Pure Heart
- Symbol: A Star with the initial HTT inside, a teacup with the initals HTT and music notes above it surrounded by a fancy banner with a Clef inside and the words Houkago Tea Time below.
- Alignment: Neutral Good
- Portfolio: Being and All girl band, Producing awesome music, Five Girl Bands, Causing their Seiyuu to gain mass popularity, Eating sweets and Drinking Tea
- Yui:
- Mio: See here]
- Ritsu: Tomboy, Club President, Forehead of Doom
- Mugi: Big Ol' Eyebrows, A kind-hearted rich girl
- Asuza: Cat Motif, being the junior of the group,
- Domains: Music, Sweets, Highschool
- Allies: Chihiro, 765pro, Miku Hatsune, New Leaf Girls (Azusa's band)
- Enemies: Anal Cunt, Dethklok
- Ascended after Mio notified the other three of the challenge between Anal Cunt and Dethklok aka Dethkunt. Ritsu immediately stated they should accept their challenge and ascend.
- When Yui was asked why she didn't inform them about this. She said she forgot much to everyone's chagrin
- Ritsu got even more annoyed when she realized that both Yui and Mio ascended already.
- They can be seen hanging out with the Beatles after they met during their trip to London.
- They can also be seen at the house of food stocking up on sweets and tea.
- Mio does double duty in the house of personal appearance much to her dismay.
- It's noted after their success their seiyuu had become very well known after the event.
edited 30th Jul '14 3:39:04 AM by KantonKage
"'I will destroy all evil!'''
To my current knowledge, Black Comedy Rape used to be taken by Rance until that series got cutlisted from TV Tropes due to an infamously controversial scene. It should be vacant unless it got updated. Don't worry, Dolan's gonna be a Butt-Monkey. All that's needed is some good material for humiliating him.
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Nope.
Note: In When They Cry anything in red is the truth. Theories are spoken in blue. Green truth (only used once by Lambadelta) is for 4th wall breaking statements. Purple declarations are a form of truth created by Bernkastel in which only the culprit of the crime can lie with. Gold truth is a more powerful blue truth that can be used by those with a true understanding of the boards.
Have fun with that rainbow text spheal? 
![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
edited 29th Jul '14 4:07:45 PM by magnum12
@Sorantheman, no we do not have a god of witch doctors
@magnum... Did you just add Bernkastel as a superior because Terumi has two subrodinates?
@Camilia, I think have a plot point for the Friendship Asylum, regarding the explanation of Gentaro's nightmares. This is more on the unlikely side, but I'll explain: Funny Valentine had Freddy Kruger manipulate Gentaro's dream, so Funny himself can implant Alter Gentaro's consciousness into him.
edited 1st Aug '14 8:37:33 AM by HotmanX32
Trope Pantheon Story site
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
You know what? That actually works. Plus Let's at Pitch from Guardians of Childhood into the mix. To break a bright light like Gentaro would surely put fear in everyone's hearts. So the Bigger Bad is Funny Valentine, and his Co-Dragons are Pitch and Freddy Krueger.
Oh and Hotman? Go to the Tales of the Alliance and find something called "This Day's Alternate!Aria". I think you found something to recap. The scene I wrote is actually the last scene of the entire story and this is a Wham Episode. You'll love it.
Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
I'm already reading it.
I was referring to Bernkastel being Dolan's superior. Terumi has two in the form of Enoshima and [1], and Bernkastel had one in Harime. The When They Cry info wasn't really necessary, but thanks...?
.....
Wait a second, color tags now works? I thought it no longer works.
@Adam West: It's good. But... just for fun, is there a way we could turn it into a Self-Demonstrating version? I thought Adam Westing is something parodic in nature. Then again, I'm not well-versed in Adam Westing things.
@magnum: The big thing that you don't realize was that... Tremaine is the one heading the thing, if anything there IS implications that she also abused both her daughters emotionally so they don't dare to cross her and goes along with bullying Cinderella. That's why in my idea, Cinderella shows that even if she won't forgive all of them, she can at least pity the sisters.
Yes, I think you went too far in the Brothers Grimm version, and if I recall... back in the old literature, even if the stepfamily was punished, it's not something of getting burned, it's just either being left poor or forced into servitude in the castle. Heck, if anything, if the Grimm's version, they just made the sisters blind. The mother GETS AWAY WITH IT. Read it in Wikipedia.
... Really? I think you're putting Fan Myopia to the highest extreme with your love to Higurashi. STOP. Not everyone knows Hinamizawa Syndrome.
That narrative?
Well... Phoenix Wright would enter and gave his trademark "OBJECTION!"
◊ First of all, what Cinderella went through in the original versions were lighter than what the Disney got. In fact the sisters' involvement was just the earlier banishment. The mother was the one hindering most of things, and going away with the sisters to the ball. Hell, there's no such thing of that traumatic dress rip stuff in the original! Likewise... Homura would give the Brothers Grimm version as the default?
"TAKE THAT!"
◊ Phoenix Wright gives the proof of how there's another equal of the Grimm version and possibly coming off earlier: The Charles Perrault version! Whereas the stepfamily actually got a My God, What Have I Done?, especially the sisters, then beg for forgiveness and Cinderella, big-hearted that she is, were like "Let bygones be bygones." To forgive is... divine.
I think this would lead for Homura to have a slight break down of why she wasn't allowed to do this, in which Phoenix Wright replies with how he's trying to save some who didn't deserve such gigantic punishment when they had some possible. And that was just the sisters, because they've been living on a facade of 'being in the proper Pantheon, but treated like Disgraces.' If Homura wanted that desperately to punish, as well as Satoko, just do it on Lady Tremaine only, the thing Anastasia and Drizella deserved for going along with whatever dark schemes their mother has was the banishment from the Pantheon proper.
Heck by that statement, I could even pitch in the Kinkou Order (Shen, Akali and Kennen) stating that Homura's judgment will really disrupt the balance of karmic punishment, rather than letting it run apart and have Beerus try to fix it with mass destruction, they will do the job of exercising balance.
I'll take the thing about Trollkastel possibly being a proto-Troll of Terumi. But THIS kind of 'shilling of importance' is too much. You're... seriously going Knight Templar in your way, really. Not. A. Good. Thought.
@Hotman: No, Terumi's demotion was my idea in conjunction of Chronophantasma. Magnum's idea was to state that she WAS the proto-Troll and inspiration of Terumi. I went along with that one when I was building up Terumi's humiliation (aside of being made a laughing stock by Nyarlathotep), and I'm fine with that kind of idea. But the Cinderella stepsisters treatment? That went outta line for me.
(Note that I'm all ears with Lady Tremaine getting all those horrific treatments because she's the only one that deserves it)
edited 29th Jul '14 5:10:01 PM by ChrisX
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
Well if someone can do that for Adam West, go for it. Until then, he's in the Demigod section of Theater. And because of his significance in Batman, how does he fare to other Batman Gods? Also, the Riddler if I'm reading the tvtrope page for the show correctly, became more well known thanks to the Batman show.
Oh and the Bruce Lee thing? It's the trope image for Retroactive Recognition.
So Hotman, how is This Day's Alternate!Aria? Is it to your liking?
edited 29th Jul '14 5:08:27 PM by Camilla
Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
Darkness' old friend
@Kanton Kage It needs WAY more in the portfolio (more specifically, character individual portfolios) and flavour text also instead of having all the girls names in the title just shorten it to Houkago Teatime.
edited 29th Jul '14 5:26:07 PM by rin14100
In times of trouble, turn to the Devil for guidance.
Yeah, totally looking forward to his one, Camilia.
@Chris X: This is why i wanted only Tremanine (Did I spell that right?) to be punished and not the stepsisters... You actually give me an idea to tie this in to the Friend Asylum arc...
edited 29th Jul '14 5:35:22 PM by HotmanX32
Trope Pantheon Story site
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
Glad you like. I'll start the recap page so you can rest. If you wanna add summary and tropes after, go ahead. Let me tell you, things are gonna get UGLY after this. And what type of story are we gonna get for the Asylum?
Edit: Summary is done but the tropes are ready for you, Hotman.
edited 29th Jul '14 6:37:48 PM by Camilla
Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
To be honest, I never saw the 2nd and 3rd cinderella films so I would know nothing about them. I'd be the one to snark at them as easily forgotten disney sequels given that the films were made during the ceaseless run of disney sequels to films that resolved all their plot points.
Go ahead with the changes if its for the best in terms of fun. Why not add in a few tomatoes being tossed to it as well. Or even a pumpkin.
One of these days I've just gotta do an MST of various animes and video games. No anime or game is safe as "equal opprutunity offender" is always funny.
Do we have any candidates for Memetic Psychopath aside from Team Four Star Mr. Popo?
On the subject of Bernkastel as a proto arch-troll, I made those statements as part of an idea to help humilate Terumi. I came across some pretty interesting evidence during the idea process and shared it. I believe it was the stuff about the various release dates in regards to reveals of true colors as cruel malicious trolls. Going back to that, what was the Japanese release date of Continuem Shift? IIRC the US one was Q3 2010 while the 4th novel of Umineko (where Bernkastel had her reveal) was in December 2008.
edited 29th Jul '14 8:10:21 PM by magnum12
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Well, if you wanted to know, despite Tremaine and the sisters' 'evilness'... they don't hold a candle to Pinocchio's Coachman. All we got is the Pleasure Island in the Dominions. But seriously, even with the SNES game part where he fell off the cliff, it didn't seem... enough. And this guy never appears in Kingdom Hearts! God, if the Tremaines' fates were like that in KH, I just wonder what fate will await the Coachman if he gets into KH.
And for the most part, Twist In Time was actually well received as far as Disney Sequel standards go, so there's that. Heck I never watched them too, but surely reading the tropes would give you knowledge about it? Guess those were some good things I gained in TV Tropes. The same happened to Precia Testarossa. Had it been not the INNOCENT or Movie 1st, Precia would've still stayed as a despicable Goddess and side-by-side with Ghetsis, but... well, those happened and she ended up performing a Heroic Sacrifice, removed from the Pantheon and remembered more fondly. It happens.
But that being said, all I said is the sisters can go, but the mother Tremaine can stay. Regardless of how she is, even if she received tons of humiliation congas, she's one of Disney's iconic villains and the one everyone remembers from Cinderella when they speak of villains, not the sisters. That's why I gave a bit of subplot of gossiping together with Grimhilde to overthrow Maleficent.
That thing about "forgiveness is divine"....gives me a positively brilliant idea. One that can be turned into a nice game of "Troper Tennis". With good writing, can this be turned into a Decon-Recon Switch? Can you provide the Reconstruction to my Deconstruction?
Deconstruction: Homura brings up an Armor-Piercing Question to Cinderella. One based on Homura's own experiences with forgiveness in Rebellion.
—> Homura: Are you sure your forgiveness won't be betrayed in the end? Not like my own experiences with forgiveness. I tried to forgive that little white rat after Madoka created her new system. What did it do to me the first chance it got. Turned me into a witch, betraying both mine and Madoka's forgiveness out of pure greed. That act ultimately showed me that Madoka was still in danger, and thus forced the drastic measures I had to take. Now do you see why I'm so vindictive when it comes to retribution against those who would harm the people I care about? *A tear can be seen in Homura's eyes as she's pelted by tomatoes. Tomatoes thrown by her own Clara Doll familiars (note: Clara Dolls are symbolic of Homura's own deep rooted self-loathing). That, and a overripe pumpkin that beans her on the head.*
Talking about Beerus gives me another idea based on the concept of Scalpel vs Sledge Hammer. If Beerus is the "sledgehammer" and the pantheon is looking for a "scalpel" for when his approach is too much, then due to certain properties of her breath weapon, Alexstrezia is the perfect candidate for the "scalpel" of destruction.
Your wish might get granted regarding Coach Man. Kingdom Hearts 3 comes out this year for PS 4. It'd be foolish for Disney to not represent the last iconic release not yet represented in the final chapter of the series alongside Toy Story.
Heck, I'm trying to compose a theory as to the identity of the last unknown wielders f light and darkness for the keyblade war.
Assuming good foreshadowing, the missing bearers are people from previous games.
Light: Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, the guy who Axel became after KH 2.
Dark: The people who became Organization XIII minus Axel and Roxas for obvious reasons.
For the light side, if Aqua somehow comes back, then she's member VI. Word of God says Organization XIII is based on Final Fantasy classes. The class which would be impossible to represent this way is White Mage. White Mage is perfect for the light side. We already have seen a White Mage who uses healing and Holy Hand Grenade, therefore: The 7th wielder of light is Minnie.
For the dark side, this one is harder. Axel and Roxas are gone for obvious reasons. Roxas most likely represented Paladin. Therefore the perfect class to represent the dark side is "Dark Knight". With Sora being a messianic archetype, this wielder would have to be an "anti-messiah" like figure. I have a feeling the whole "all the worlds were once one" bit will become a Chekhov's Gun that gets fired in the 3rd game. I also think that a Disney character will be one of the 13 wielders of darkness. We happen to have one that represents "Summoner" pretty well given certain power over the heartless. Therefore: the two missing wielders of darkness are Maleficient (Summoner) and Vanitas (Dark Knight).
I suggest Frodo Baggins (hobbits are the codifier for Little People) or whoever the head liliputin is.
edited 29th Jul '14 11:08:08 PM by magnum12
Shocking Gun!
I am just going to say it again, but is there a god for Lilliputians and/or Little Peoples? It really feels like I have to ask everything twice or three times before I can even get one answer...
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
ADHD Villain
I'm digging the Adam West and Guardians of the Galaxy profiles. Good on you.
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
I'll wait until August 2nd to get these guys ascended. I'll add a few more things to the profile while I wait.
Oh and here's another god to put in.
The Iron Giant, God of Those Who Don't Want To Be Used As Weapons and Patron God of Gentle Giants
- Greater God
- Symbol: The giant himself adorned with a giant S on his chest.
- Alignment: Neutral Good
- Portfolio: Gentle Giant who become ABSOLUTELY PISSED OFF if you push them too far, beautiful moments of death to sacrifice himself (yet still heartwrenching), Giant Robot, able to withstand explosions, guns and missiles without a scratch on him,repairing himself by bringing his parts together, Wieliding an Arm Cannon, Chest Blaster, and other types of weapons
- Domains: War, Mechas, Peace, Heroism
- Allies: All superhero gods in the Pantheon (particularly Superman) and all gods in the GUAG, most Pixar gods (particuarly Helen Parr)
- Enemies: Gods in the House of War, Hatred, and Villainy, and every god who uses guns.
- Knew that he could not stay with Hogarth forever, knowing there were other places that needed him. He told the young boy, "You stay. I go. No following." Then flew off to the Pantheon. There, he made his temple in the House of Philosophy. He accidentally took Kevin Levin's car (eliciting a "MY RIDE!!!" reaction) to build it, but handed it after it got tossed into the House of Nature.
- The Giant later learned that he could visit Hogarth every now and then, and vice versa so things were a lot better.
- He and Groot have some very strange conversations, mostly due to the fact that they have Vin Diesel as a voice actor. Rocket Raccoon acts as a translator for Groot, but even then it's hard to tell due to the Giant having a small vocabulary and Groot saying "I Am Groot."
- Pissing him off is the eighth stupidest thing to do in the Pantheon. Even Trollkaiger know that a giant walking tank of death is not a good thing to have chasing after you. He is not allowed in the House of War or Weapons due to his stance on guns. The presence of a toy gun can send him to a flying rage.
- Was...overjoyed to find Superman, as the Man of Steel's name was the last thing the Giant said before he sacrificed himself to a missile (to the cries of many soft-hearted gods). Superman sees the goodness in the Giant's heart and tells the giant of his tales.
- The Giant once learned of a dark and forboding threat called "Project: Alternate Gentaro" and after learning what happened, he wishes to help. Not by killing him (which would be even WORSE than what's going on) but by telling Alternate!Gentaro that he can choose to be whatever he wanted. Many gods really don't want the giant to get involved like that, due to the fact that aside from a humongous giant rampaging across the Pantheon, it will just reduce many into tears cause they just know that the Giant's words won't reach Gentaro's ears.
- Surprisingly, Mrs. Incredible has a kinship with the Giant, due to having a similar creator in Brad Bird. The Iron Giant gets along with some of the Pixar cast. Wall-E and EVE dance around him, and have taught him about the magic of "Hello Dolly!" However, the last time the Giant danced to "Put on Your Sunday Clothes", he nearly destroyed half of the Pantheon.
So, is this good?
Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
ADHD Villain
Hephaestus, God of the Forge (Vulcan, Smith of the Gods)
- Greater God.
- Symbol: A smith's hammer and pliers atop an anvil.
- Alignment: Lawful Neutral
- Portfolio: Smithing, manipulating fire, lameness, facial hair, creating godly items, ugliness by Greek standards, wed to Aphrodite, catching others in the act.
- Domains: Forging, Volcanoes, Invention.
- Followers: Ashul Edwaru, Godo, Aeries Mu, Felix Quintero, Io, Hattori Hanzo, The Man With The Iron Fists, Jason Ogg, Rothion, Bengali
- Allies: Zeus, Sophitia, Engineer, Link, Franky, Diana Prince Hercules.
- Enemies: Both Hades, Kratos, Soul Edge, Nightmare, Gilgamesh
- Wife: Aphrodite
- High Priest: Ulthane
- Temperatures suddenly spiked within the House of Craft to the point that gods began to fear the walls would soon melt. When the source of this intense heat was discovered, the ringing of a hammer against metal greeted gatherers who found Hephaestus diligently working on one of his many marvels. When he finished his work and heard his new neighbors' complains, the smith rebuilt his new temple to insulate his heat and render it soundproof to everyone's relief.
- Within mere hours of his presence being made public knowledge to the entire Pantheon, a great line formed outside of his Forge as god after god came with requests and commissions for the Smith's unrivaled works. Naturally, as was always the case, Zeus is given front-of-the-line privilege to restock on thunder bolts.
- Inevitably, Hephaestus and Kratos again crossed paths. This time, he had forged a great and terrible weapon sure to slay the Ghost of Sparta as he intended. However, in seeing genuine sadness in the God of War's eyes over what transpired between them, the fight was taken out of him. Vulcan would later destroy the weapon, and some could swear they could hear sobbing from behind even the soundproof walls over his lost daughter.
- Finally Hephaestus was able to meet his herald Sophitia as an equal, and the two spoke for a length of time. Hearing first hand accounts of the malicious Soul Edge, Hephaestus has started drawing plans for a proper weapon to fell the cursed blade.
- By a chance meeting with the reincarnated hero, Vulcan asked Link if he might inspect the Master Sword. Link reluctantly let the smith hold his sword, which Vulcan held close to his ear. With a smile, he returned the Blade of Evil's Bane and complimented that it was the most loyal sword he'd ever held. "She knows her master better than any other." He left the god a little confused as they parted ways.
- He's grown more than a little annoyed and has taken to building fortifications to keep Gilgamesh and his demands for the Excalibur away.
- Hephaestus has taken great pains to avoid the House of Love entirely learning that his unfaithful wife took residency there. She never paid him any mind in their marriage, so he opted to do the same and buried himself in his work.
So this is my latest submission to the Pantheon proper. Scheduled for the House of Craft if there are no suggestions or objections.
edited 29th Jul '14 10:23:40 PM by Taxima
Shocking Gun!
What have we said about including deities from real mythologies?
Okay, I have to say this third time (sort of). I suggest Shinmyoumaru Sukuna as the Goddess of Inchlings. I am also thinking of adding Durant as the Gods of Ants.
edited 29th Jul '14 10:52:20 PM by TPPR10
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
I'd say Vulkan (Primarch) is a good candidate for Ultimate Black Smith. Alongside being a chapter of Scary Black Man and their affinity for fire weapons, skill at the forge is the defining characteristic of the Salamanders chapter.
I though I gave a suggestion regarding some of that. Frodo for Little People or whoever the leader of the Liliputions is. I know jack squat about Touhou so that idea is as good as any.
Iron Giant is good to go I say.
edited 29th Jul '14 11:04:24 PM by magnum12
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
Um, what about Iron Giant?
Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
Shocking Gun!
I noticed that. I guess some one can do Frodo Baggins since I am not really that familiar with Tolkien's works. As for your second point, well, Sukuna is the princess of Inchlings (though if that holds real merit is in question). She is also base on two things: she is descendant of Isshun-boshi, the One-Inch Man and named after Sukunahikona, the dwarf deity (I got to remember that).
edited 29th Jul '14 11:13:32 PM by TPPR10
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
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Hm... well there's one thing. We have two choices of Hephaestus. It can be the original Greek one, in which we have the God Of War portrayal. I mean, it's not much, but his was quite vital of Kratos' quest, seeing that he made Pandora. There's a problem with that: Aphrodite managed to get to the Pantheon because Kratos didn't kill her, but on the other hand, Hephaestus was killed. Unlike Zeus and Hercules, Hephaestus probably lacked further major appearances to justify that (In Sophitia's case, he's just The Ghost).
I'll say this as much though, if it's Hephaestus, there better be a reference about how he specifically and personally chose Sophitia's husband, Rothion, to be the one he channeled his power to forge Sophitia's weapon. So like Sophie, Hephaestus will precisely take none of the shits about Die for Our Ship for Rothion.
On the other hand, we could use the Roman name, Vulcan, because at the very least in this form, he's also one of the Gods in the Battlefield of Gods. And um, his position as the resident Turret Master makes a possibly unique portrayal. But then, we have to take note that in Smite, Hephaestus/Vulcan wasn't just 'the poor husband that got cheated a lot by Aphrodite/Venus', his lore portrays him as someone that can't let go of his anger of being tossed away by Hera/Juno that he became workaholic and locks himself in his smith, ignoring his wife and brought back her insecurities. I think that IS the reason why Aphro actually gained sympathy, the relationship is two-ways, Aphrodite being insecure, and Hephaestus still being pissed off at Hera's past misdeeds. Both REALLY damages their marriage this way.
Although... Primarch? Enlighten me, but that's a term in Warhammer 40 K, I think? Is... Hephaestus/Vulcan a prominent figure in Warhammer-verse? If yes, we could use that.
Well speaking of Gods, I think I better work on the Sobek proposal soon.
edited 29th Jul '14 11:49:43 PM by ChrisX
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Welp, here we go with Sobek! Fun fact: Gustave's nickname was 'Avatar of Sobek'... Sooo....
Sobek, God of Crocodiles (Sebek, Sochet, Sobk, Sobki, Suchos, God of the Nile)
- Greater God
- Symbol: A set of Crocodile jaws.
- Alignment: True Neutral
- Portfolio: Ruler of the Crocodiles, Not-So-Bad Vicious Gods, Super Thick Skin, River Control, Care For His Animal Deities, Wielding Axes If He Needs To Walk With Two Feet, Stone Wall.
- Domains: Beasts, Reptiles, Water, Death.
- Allies: Steve Irwin, Inori Yamabuki. Also, he has tolerated Zeus, Hercules, Thor, Guan Yu, Aphrodite, but he wouldn't call them true allies.
- Enemies: Anyone who disses Nile River. And Poachers. And Saxton Hale. And Big Boss
- Followers: Renekton, The Crocodile of Neverland, King K. Rool
- High Priest: Gustave
- His avatar Gustave made it to the Pantheon and kept his throne warm (or was it cold like his blood?). Until at one point, Gustave was seen scaring off Inori Yamabuki/Cure Pine. In instant, Sobek arrived and calmed Gustave down and apologized to Buki, promising that it won't happen again. Actually, for all his dark vibes, Gustave obeyed Sobek and returned to the river. The Crocodile God then gave Buki his thanks for protecting his other crocs rather than making boots and bags out of them.
- Ever since, Sobek has included Gustave amongst the crocs that magically appear whenever he creates a body of mobile water on ground to swim around and disrupting and destroying those who piss him off.
- There's a lot of rumors going on about Sobek's true nature, at least Gustave could be considered as straight-up evil. Did Sobek made the Nile river out of his sweats? Is he something like Hades to the underworld, making the Nile river something like the river of Styx? Or is he exactly like how Gustave acted, a vicious croc that ravages anyone that came to his sight? The answer is he's all of them and none. At the core, Sobek owes his allegiance to no one, just interested in maintaining his domain. Woe betide to anyone who does so though.
- He was once invited to a musical by King Gator. Sobek just watched and then walked away, saying that the music fits his job at least... pointless.
- Unlike his previous avatar, Sobek has high respects on Steve Irwin. The dude may wrestle with his crocs a lot, but it's always on a good nature. Hell, after his 'ascension', Sobek lets Steve wrestle with him occasionally.
- However, he agreed with his avatar that he hated Saxton Hale, because the latter tried to turn his followers, and later even him into a croc-skin hat! He also disliked Big Boss for that one time he wore a croc-hat and bombed Sobek's crocs lurking in the river en route to Groznyj Grad.
- Sobek is no part of the Deep Blue Trio, in particular, the rivers. However, he still lets Gustave resume that role.
- His participation in the Battlefield of the Gods has certainly do wonders about letting the world know just how god-damn tough his skin is. He always took most of his followers for a swim whenever he's about to strike one poor schmuck and make a lot of disruptions. The only one not included on the pool would be Renekton, because Sobek specifically sent him to Runeterra to spread his teaching.
- Thanks to the information gotten from Renekton, Sobek occasionally visits upon some deities from Runeterra, like Miss Fortune (although that got him shot a bit because he dressed up as a pirate, and she doesn't like pirates). After a bit of exchanges, Sobek could be seen on the seas, whenever Miss Fortune teamed up with Jack Sparrow and kicked Gangplank to the sea, Sobek would chase him like his follower the Neverland Crocodile.
Welp?
edited 30th Jul '14 12:40:38 AM by ChrisX
This one is very nicely made. I can't say much.
Okay, that's it.
Peter "Star-Lord" Quill, Drax, Gamora, Rocket Raccoon and Groot, Gods of the Anti-Hero Team (Guardians of the Galaxy)
Edit: Saw the movie and man these five have to be in. Let's go.
Also, if I were to ascend The Iron Giant for those who are not weapons, would I put him in philosophy, technology or war?
edited 1st Aug '14 8:00:47 PM by Camilla
Note to self: Never bet on Entei.