- I like this theory.
- First, XANA seems quite happy to allow the Lyoko Warriors to survive between attacks (in "Hot Shower", he actually destroys a meteor headed for Yumi when he could have let it kill her).
- It's worth noting however that XANA's goal that episode was to destroy the Quantum Computer with Aelita in Lyoko to trap her inside it. The meteor would indeed have gone on to kill Yumi, but Aelita would be separated from Lyoko contrary to XANA's plan.
- Second, XANA seems perfectly willing to help with threats that weren't created by him and therefore not part of his plan (like the Marabounta, which was one of Jeremie's programs that went wrong; with the Warriors unable to deal with it on their own, XANA sent in monsters to help them and prevent Lyoko's not-convenient-at-that-point destruction).
- Third, in one episode XANA attacks just before Aelita has to undress for a medical exam, the possible act of a father trying to protect his daughter's modesty (or just the writers being bastards, since Sissi had been shown undressed (again) moments before).
- Fourth, we never did learn exactly where Franz was being kept before Lyoko was temp-deleted (the tower in Sector 5 was suspected by fans, but nothing was ever proven).
- Letting the heroes survive between attacks? We've got two theories on that.
- A: Antea-XANA has a GLaDOS-like Morality Core that malfunctions periodically to make her do various diabolical deeds.
- B: Overclocked human brainwave-based AI means overclocked mood swings. Every attack is a Roaring Rampage of PMS.
- Helping out in Enemy Mine scenarios? Simple self-preservation protocol, not too far off from the "XANA is Franz" theory above.
- Attacking to get Aelita out of a physical? Maternal instinct.
- Franz's whereabouts during the big cliffhangers? Simple: he operated out of Sector 5 until "Revelation/The Key," in which he depleted his power to restore part of Aelita's human memories. From there, he escapes to the Internet proper, bumming energy off Windows XP users to reconstitute himself. After the 10-Minute Retirement of Lyoko at Season 3's end, he returns to the supercomputer to secretly affect repairs on the Skidbladnir, occasionally popping up to rescue Aelita from the Digital Sea if her wings don't kick in.
- Jossed, she appears in Evolution in the real world. Same for the novels.
- There is a fanfic in which XANA crosses over to the world of .hack//Sign and the players therein have to fetch the Lyoko cast to help defeat him.
- On a related note, Ulrich is a Skrull, as are both his parents.
- Nah, only Ulrich's Jerkass father is a Skrull. However, Ulrich will use powers derived from his Skrull heritage to usurp the position of Captain Marvel.
- At least two Doctor Browns
- At least one The Doctor
- Dr. Tadashi Hikari or Thomas Light, continuity depending
- Dr. Albert Wily, continuity notwithstanding
- Which means that XANA's specters are related to the Maverick Virus.
- A young Academician Prokor Zakharov, who eventually modeled his goggles off Franz's specs and Suiseiseki's eyes
- Actually, no. The reason for the mostly-caps thing is that the "Lyoko Font", Gunship, has nearly all the lower-case letters appear in uppercase, with the exception of "b" and "d".
- But if the fake Franz was right and XANA was made to combat multi-agent systems, how did Jeremy manage to overwhelm it with one?
- XANA follows the Alien Crossfire rules: Jeremy wasn't OHKO'd because he had Algorithmic Enhancement, and mounted a successful counter-offensive because his Probe Score was +5.
- First, see the Hunter-Seeker WMG above.
- Second, consider XANA's modus operandi: the manipulation of electric current, electronic computational functions, and bioelectric impulses to affect a variety of attacks. These come as easily to XANA as the manipulation of electronic and thermal resonances for Progenitors - in fact, the latter is their primary communication medium.
- Finally, nobody seems to agree on which set of gender pronouns to refer to XANA with, if even to use ones denoting gender at all: the show has a secure grip on referring to XANA as male, while several Fanon interpretations depict XANA as female (if not having a separate female avatar to ship with William), the Let's Talk Tech team at Lyoko Freak seems to like gender-neutral pronouns, and the games (or at least "Fall of XANA") switch between the three with reckless abandon. Solution? Reference to XANA is designed with gender fluidity in mind: much like in communicating with a Progenitor, it doesn't matter which pronouns you use or how frequently they're shuffled, as long as it's clear you're referring to the same entity the entire time. Also, it's either this or we take the Squick route like with Pikachu and Vaarsuvius.
- Meaning, of course, that all Jeremy had to do in the end was Reject XANA's programming.
- Also, Antea Hopper survived...as a Mod Soul eventually installed into Mister Puck.
- Not to mention Ulrich's dad is a Bount in addition to being a Skrull as denoted above.
- Nah, Ulrich is a kinda similar name to Uryuu... I bet he's a Quincy.
- Couldn't be. Ulrich lacks mad sewing skillz.
- Ulrich is a Soul Reaper. He fights with a sword. Odd's the Quincy.
- No, Yumi is the Soul Reaper. Take a second look at her first Lyoko outfit. The right side of the kimono is over the left.
- Nah, Ulrich is a kinda similar name to Uryuu... I bet he's a Quincy.
- Minus unpaid tuition for Kadic, which seems to be a private school.
- Nah, Jeremy hacked in a free ride scholarship for her. Because love makes you do those sorts of things.
- Persuing the matter would likely see them knocked off by the government or thrown in some off the books prison due to the whole project carthage thing. Also, proving the whole data stasis thing would be difficult without revealing the existance of lyoko (which would be siezed by the government) Also Franz hopper is likely dead (or of unknown whearabouts), so collecting from him would be difficult, even assuming that the men in black somehow did not have him unpersoned or sieze/froze his assets. The men in black, as government agents ( even without invoking plausible deniability) would never even see the inside of a courtroom, getting off quite easily. Jeremie could end up going to prison for forging Alieta's identity.
- Wow...I just wrote that cause it was missing, and someone's already commented on it. O_O Anyway, all I think is that Sissi's suspicious lack of mommeh is, well, suspicious. My guesses fall in several categories- one, she's a clone, like you said (which would make for a really cool plot if she ever joined the Gang), two, Jean-Pierre is at least not her father (maybe she was a foundling or something, abandoned on the Kadic doorstep...but that's straying into Fan Fic territory), or three, I'm reading too far into it and Sissi's mum is simply not important.
- Perhaps she's the mastermind behind all the conspiracy!
- Perhaps Sissi's mom is Antea Hopper.
- Hey, this works! Canon says Sissi's mother is alive and away. So is Antea. In the novels, at least, Jean-Pierre Delmas has some awareness of Project Carthage and Waldo Schaeffer's true identity. The only hole in this theory is that Sissi must have been born during Franz's tenure at Kadic.
- Perhaps she's the mastermind behind all the conspiracy!
What? That makes a LOT more sense than the Identical Stranger scenario...
- If she dies and Jeremy installs her DNA into Aelita, will it unlock her true power? Just curious.
- Extra credit for getting your timeline right — 7 years is absolutely spot on.
- Speaking of CLAMP, there's an intersection with Code Geass by proxy: Antea staged her "kidnapping" with a little help from Emperor Chuck for the sake of a round of plan based Calvinball that will eventually culminate with Grendizer and Mazinkaiser being placed in the same Super Robot Wars game...except 'Dizer uses its French name "Goldorak." And it ships with any Pizza Hut order with two large 1-toppings and breadsticks.
- hmm...Maya, you say?
- M-Maya? Oh God, it's Carnegie Hall all over again...
- This troper thinks you're on to something. OSR takes place in either 2081 or 2082, judging from a banner glimpsed in a flashback to a time shortly before Maya Wei's death. Assuming that Jeremie was eleven or twelve in 2005, that he and Aelita grew up, married, and had kids, that pink hair is some sort of recessive trait, that Maya was somewhere in her thirties when she died in 2071/2072, and that Maya was actually French... Jeremie and Aelita could be Eva Wei's grandparents. (Unless this troper's math is wrong. She double-checked, honest!)
Snake's rapid aging is still a hole in my theory, though. Either A. he never came down with it via being a FOXDIE vector, or B. Plastic surgery.
- William is Psycho Mantis, by the way. "You LIKE Oban Star-Racers, don't you?"
- Taking things into Konami's expanded universe for a stretch, Franz Hopper is actually an alias for
Waldo SchaefferPetrovich Modnar. Which makes Aelita a Snatcher of Antea Hopper intended to keep up the Masquerade of a nuclear family. Except she accidentally became human through interaction with XANA, who happens to be an Immortal. A decade later, Jeremy and pals Shot The Core so that Aelita could spend her days in peace, playing children's card games.
- Further addendums to the above:
- The laser satellite is actually the Patriots' "John Doe" server, which would make XANA some sort of zeitgeist of the "rule the world" half of the Patriots' proprietors (Sigint, Para-Medic, Major Zero).
- Jeremy may or may not do all his less scrupulous hacking under the alias "Shalashaska," depending on whether he can remember to put in that last S (Lord knows I have trouble with it).
Hoppers SchaeffersHell, maybe both could be distant offshoots of the Gurlukovich line, following a bizarre and improbable path to rebuilding Russia that was mostly extrapolated from an old Betamax of the Soviet movie Aelita, Queen of Mars. Insert your own Zone of the Enders joke here.
- The only reason Jeremy says the supercomputer can't bring people back to life is because The Sorrow would have his ass for it. See also Big Boss's spiritual shenanigans in The Last Days of FOXHOUND.
- Yumi is actually a Model 3 Test Subject, complete with rack designed by Team Ninja.
- As cool as that theory is, it doesn't quite work timeline-wise. The supercomputer was shut down for nine years, and Jeremie was twelve when he first discovered it...
Similarly, William and Setsuna/Eas seem to have connections: both have black hair and had an evil phase, but in reverse directions: William was good and he became evil, and Setsuna started out evil and became Cure Passion.
- It could also be argued that his five sisters have led to his Casanova Wannabie tendencies. He mentions that they bully him (e.g. by locking him in the bathroom all night) and have complete control over him due to being older. Thus, when Odd is away from them at Kadic, he decides that he wants to be the one in control instead, and thus dates every girl he can to try and assert his control and sense of confidence.
- But if the "Return to the Past" works by restoring a "back-up" of the world, then why do dead people stay dead?
- The same reason the Lyoko Warriors overwrite themselves. Every actor is simply reset back and physically restored, and the relevant memories erased should they not be exempt from retrieval, but a glitch in resetting makes most people who die fail to continue function and simply die again or simply fail at being sent back entirely and just don't reappear. The 'autosave' feature only holds up to 24 hours worth of frames of existence, and does not accommodate for deaths in any form related to the incident they're undoing for. There may be a stronger save feature that allows for longer storage and bringing back the dead, but this savestate is either a complete undo and does not allow for in-universe memory retention or anything else that would make it useful or cannot be activated from the shown layers of the simulation, at least not without something extremely impractical like individually activating every single tower in the entire simulation.
- But if the "Return to the Past" works by restoring a "back-up" of the world, then why do dead people stay dead?
This would also make it much easier to explain why Aelita happens to be trapped in Lyoko, and can't get into the World. Think of the Lyoko Warriors being transported from the World into Lyoko as uploading an AI into a robot's processor. Transferring a human's consciousness into a computer is much harder, and is comparable to Aelita's predicament.
The Aelita in Seasons 1 and 2 and the Aelita in Seasons 3 and 4 are two completely different Aelitas, because a new Aelita was created when Franz Hopper gave her memories back. As a blank slate on Lyoko, Aelita was probably closer to the definition of an artificial intelligence- or maybe simply an amnesiac. She shows marked traits- an overactive martyrdom instinct, a demure, naive personality (though this does evolve slightly due to outside sources), and, for the little time she knows about her parentage before the memory restoration, acute hatred of her father.
My best guess is that when Franz Hopper restored her memories, he also restored a bit of her previous personality, and maybe a bit more humanity. She becomes noticeably more outspoken, she takes many risks both physically and socially, the martyrdom instinct vanishes (maybe because of a renewed sense of dignity?), she receives different powers for no apparent reason (this I think is the big one- because her brain changed, the makeup of her Lyoko form changed as well. The energy balls could be symbolic of her assertiveness...or uh something.), and, big one, she absolutely adores her father. Aelita wasn't replaced, because she has memories and all, but she was definitely heavily modified.
- Reminds me of another extraordinary girl whose personality shifted towards the assertive halfway through the story. You sure Aelita isn't a half-Esper?
- We had to have one of these, anyways. 'Tis TV Tropes tradition, of course!
- I have absolutely no idea what you just said. Keep up the good work.
- If Smart Brain is involved, does this make Code Lyoko set in Faiz's world, Decade AR Faiz's world or another entirely? Plus, aren't orphenocs almost always grey in colour?
- ZECT would arguably be a better fit for the Men In Black - after all, you could argue that Lyoko was a virtual predecessor to the Masked Rider System, and the Resets might be connected to the Hyper Zecter. It could be that the Worms never got to France, and as such, Franz was originally contracted to create a simulator to train ZECT operatives, but said project gained a mind of it's own.
- If the baby wound up in her stomach, wouldn't that kill him before he was born?
- Flaw in your theory: Michel Belpois and Dr. Andonuts look and act nothing alike.
Xana was doing exactly what it was programmed to do: destroy Project Carthage. In order to do that it needed to leave the factory. The program was merely protecting itself when it trapped Franz and Aelita Hopper and was continuing to protect its mission for the entire series.
- That's not a bad theory. It makes sense. Perhaps the reason he created all those extra super computers was because he needed extra power to destroy Carthage (and he created those robots to defend the computers should they come under attack). I mean, since the Carthage was started (in what, the '70s?) it had probably grown exponentially. Hell, depending on just WHAT it does exactly, it may be a threat to the entire world. Heh, it's probably some sort of system that keeps the entire world under the control... What was that theory regarding The Patriots again? If this is all true though wouldn't that make Xana the hero of the show, which is nothing but a bunch of Nice Job Breaking It, Hero! moments?
- That could explain how it's plots start vague and turn more towards manipulating the kids. As soon as they succeed against plots it never really needed, they rewind time. This explicitly gives it more power (in what sense?); why not exploit its constant attackers to make it more powerful so it can eliminate Carthage?
- Or perhaps he already destroyed it at some point in the past and, as a result, decided to destroy the ones who created it, the humans, as an extension of the original programming.
- So XANA is Helios?
- Odd and Ulrich were right in "Temporary Insanity".
- He already did that, in the first episode: "Teddy Godzilla".
- That presumes a lot about the RTTP's range. It might simply not have the power to send everything back THAT far. Though I wouldn't put it past the Warriors to pull a Mighty Max (Resetting back to the time of Xana Awakens) as a last resort...
- There's a simpler/alternate explanation for Ulrich's bad grades... having Odd for a roommate.
- The wirey cable thingies that lead to the towers are comparable to Redstone Wire.
- The Digital Sea acts similarly to the Void. Instant death, loss of all data.
- The four main Areas (desert, forest, ice, mountain) are comparable to the major biomes in Minecraft.
- Carthage, likely the last thing Hopper built, appears to be made completely out of Lapis Lazuli blocks.
- XANA, given all that he does, could be compared to Herobrine accessing towers allowing him to screw with people in REAL LIFE.
- Replikas are worlds separate from Lyoko that Hopper made while testing his world generation mod, mainly to make sure each biome still worked properly.
So what it comes down to is this: Jeremy and the gang found this super computer, discovered Hopper's still Minecraft addicted daughter trapped in Hopper's world. The so-called "materialization code" was really a way to forcibly remove Aelita's addiction, allowing her to get out. Over the course of the series, the team goes and fights against Herobrine to keep him from screwing with real life in addition to just Minecraft.
Finally, Jeremy reveals that his hair is dyed, moves to Sweden, changes his name to Markus Persson, grows a magnificent beard, and makes a game called Minecraft hoping to one day make a less hostile but still with a fun amount of danger version of Lyoko that he and his friends can one day explore once more. He made Herobrine in an attempt to have something similar to but not as deadly as Xana, but removed him at some point after Franz Hopper went back in time, which was also before the Nether update. Endermen were his second attempt, but failed because they weren't sinister enough. Oh, and Ulrich went with Jeremy and took the name of Jen Bergstein.
- And then she'll get turned evil, because the Warriors really can't catch a break.
- Quite possible (her having a Lyoko form, not her turning evil), since it's been confirmed there are SEVEN main characters despite only six (Jeremie, Aelita, Ulrich, Yumi, Odd, and William) being promoted, and Sissi's the one character who hasn't been showing up at all in promotion or previews. Coincidence?
- Jossed, sadly.
- He wears a short sleeved T-shirt at night to sleep in.
- Not that I want this theory to be true but he doesn't have to cut himself for this theory; it could just involves bruises that could easily covered with make-up.
- Which means they were probably all killed when the Multi-Agent program destroyed all the Replikas .
At the end of the Christmas Episode Servo defeats the main villain of the show in a one on one fight. But right when he heads off searching for a way to return to home from the digital world a they all got amnesia and the whole world was set back five days in time!
My theory is that it was a Return trip that somehow got overclocked, (X.A.N.A, Kilokhan?) and didn't work entirely as everybody who was in Sam's basement just before they did the Return-To-The-Past program remained there. This must mean that the program has a longer range than the Lyoko Warriors realize and it was once overclocked off screen and maybe some flaws in execution. Though how they solved that function and the issues with it are unknown. Admittedly I can't justify the vast differences in appearance and origin from the "Digital Domain" and Lyoko but this is a much better plot than how Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad actually handled it.
- Other Guess: Syber Squad is an alternate universe where they had vastly different combat avatar's, Aelita was never a factor, they don't know how to shut the Virtual World Down, and they had never discovered return to the past and only used it once unknowingly. What change caused the warriors to be American and not require a virtualization scanner to go in is anyone's guess.
- Before I forget guys can you tell me how too add a WMG page for Syber Squad? I can't figure it out.
Alternatively, Franz created her from the original Aelita's DNA only, having been unable to scan her and retrieve her memories/being smart enough to realize giving her fake memories could bite him in the butt later. When he restored her memories in "The Key" he also gave her the rest of the original Aelita's DNA code (thus why she was able to be devirtualized normally from then on). As for why she has memories from before she was created? The answer should be obvious.
- Oct 7, 2002: Jeremie decides they isn't enough parts in the building for his mini-robots.
- Oct 8, 2002: Jeremie turns on the Supercomputer and meets Maya for the first time.
- Oct 9, 2002: Jeremie writes down his meeting with Maya in his computer dairy.
- Oct 10, 2002: Odd comes to Kadic. Ulrich and Odd's first journey to Lyoko. Yumi and Ulrich meet each other.
- Oct 12, 2002 — Round #1- Odd does his first spiky hair. Yumi's first journey to Loyko. Sissy's first squealing on the Lyoko Warriors. Aelita learns her name while putting in "Code Lyoko". First "Return to the Past, now!" by Jeremie.
- Oct 12, 2002 — Round #2: Find out about X.A.N.A. The gang decide to kept: Lyoko, Aelita and X.A.N.A. a secret.
- Mobius, which is located in a secret facility on Angel Island so well hidden that not even Dr. Eggman didn't find it and is powered by the Master Emerald and has a backup Hydrogen Fusion Engine for power if the Master Emerald should fail.
- The Citadel in 2183 CE, where Franz learned about the Reapers and the true origins of the Citadel, and encoded a warning message to anyone who would find the Supercomputer, but is so well hidden that not even Cmdr. Shepard would know about it. Unfortunately.
- 19th Century China, which was reached when Franz tested a theory concerning moving a human's consciousness and physical mass back in time via a Return to the Past that caused him to get separated from the Supercomputer (and France), and where Franz built a massive version of Charles Babbage's Difference Engine and served as a personal adviser to the Foolish Magistrate (whom, fittingly, had been forgotten by the big guy entirely), and bore witness to the kittening of the Foolish Magistrate's cat. The Supercomputer is now so rotted out that it's unusable, but it is usable if one travels back in time to this location.
- Installation 03, where he was able to build a Lyoko Supercomputer only using some Forerunner junk he found. Needless to say, the Covenant weren't too happy when the found out what he had done, and attempted to destroy it before deciding to study it.
- Equestria, where he built a Lyoko Supercomputer in the forgotten basement of a warehouse in Canterlot, and where, in 2004, a team of Royal Guard Ponies led by then-Lieutenant Shining Armor tried to explore it and resulted in a catastrophe that had most of the team drowned in the Digital Sea.
- The Moon during the construction of the Moonbase, where he built a Lyoko Supercomputer with a fusion reactor similar to the one in Angel Island, allowing the KND to complete construction of the original Moonbase, and after the events of Operation: Z.E.R.O., allowing them to build a bigger, better Moonbase.
- A planet on the other side of the galaxy in the far past. After he left, a bug in the computer caused him to create cyborgs hellbent into reaching perfection by assimilating every sentient in the universe.
- Persona 3 Tartarus. Franz made one there while helping the Kirijo group learn more about Shadows and Persona, consequently making Aegis.
- The computer inside the Sailor Soldiers' headquarters. The girls later turned it off and sealed the base when XANA tried to use it to attack Tokyo.
- The basement of SciLab. It proved to be a real boon in developing sentient AI (NetNavis), but the dimensional link meant that when XANA rebelled, part of it fed back to the Cyberworld, corrupting it just enough to trigger the Alpha Revolt. Or possibly vice versa, Alpha corrupted XANA. The link was broken in the process, possibly by the Security Navis sent to hunt Bass.EXE, but the supercomputer technology was kept and repurposed.
- Somewhere in the post-apocalyptic future, in a place cut off from the rest of the world known as Vein, the Gaol of the Mist. Franz didn't really plan this one, but still managed to make it work with some scrap he found around the area (and possibly the help of some sympathetic Revenants who were also familiar with Pre-Great Collapse technology). That way, he hoped that should XANA ever get corrupted and survive to that future, the people of that time period would have the means to fight back after he left, or at the very least limit his influence. Unfortunately, the area in which this Supercomputer is hidden is no longer safe to explore, as the miasma has become too thick and the place has been overrun by the Lost, meaning that even the bravest Revenant would think twice before venturing there.
- Now bear with me because this examines two incidents involving the main characters. In "Killer Music", Odd flatlines right before the Return to the Past (and I do mean the kind that medical professionals would recognize as "patient deceased") but is perfectly fine after time resets other than not having any memories of the period before the reset. Secondly, in "Cold War", Yumi is trapped under a tree in sub-Arctic temperatures in standard winter clothing; she's dead, no ifs, ands or buts but again, as soon as time resets, she's perfectly fine. Granted, only the audience knows about the first one but had Jeremie been told about the latter, he'd have quickly figured out that the Return to the Past brought Yumi back. And there are probably other examples of this kind of thing. So how did they come up with the theory that Returns to the Past don't restore those killed during the attacks? In the time between "XANA Awakens" and "Teddygodzilla", a person that the Lyoko Warriors knew well (not close exactly but well) died during the attack, possibly while one of the Warriors was trapped at the school during the attack. After the Return to the Past, the person still ended up dead and the phrasing of how in their obituary convinced the Lyoko Warriors that they hadn't been brought back to life in the first place; however, unknown to them, the person died because of causes that had nothing to do with XANA at all and the Return to the Past actually did temporarily restore them before they died again. Basically how deaths relate to the Return to the Past is this: if there's no reason for you to be dead in the reset timeline, then you'll be just fine, though Lyoko Warriors may experience memory absence (they aren't typically aware of this because the events are usually things their fellows don't want to talk about. "Killer Music" is a good example; Odd isn't told what happened in the original run of things because Ulrich still felt guilty). However, if you would have died from non-XANA-related causes (heart attack; old age; etc.), you'll be returned to life but shortly after, those non-XANA-related causes will kill you off. If this became canon, they'd probably have an episode where one of the Warriors is killed off in a way everyone on the team knows about. The XANA attack necessitates a Return to the Past and everyone is prepared to deal with the fallout of their friend being dead...when said friend walks back in and asks what's wrong. The group is forced to reevaluate their theory and adjust it.
- Yumi Ishiyama is Kimi Finster.
- Elisabeth Delmas is Angelica Pickles.
- Ulrich Stern is Tommy Pickles.
- Odd Della Robbia is Dil Pickles.
- Jeremie Belpois is Chuckie Finster.