My point is that every Genre-Busting work was first a Genre Mashup work: taking elements existing in one genre and applying them in a new context. The distinction between the two is Trivia, specifically Follow the Leader. You cannot tell from the work itself if another work has copied that Genre Mashup, or if enough other works have copied that mix of genres enough to count as it's own genre.
So whenever a work (or series of works) forms a new genre, we would identify the specific Genre being applied in the description, such as Spaghetti Western. The early works would also have information about what Genre elements inspired them, aka "what Genre Mashup occurred to form this genre". Ones that fail to gain a significant number of followers, such as Cowboy Bebop. still gets described as a Genre Mashup by describing what genre elements inspired them.
No specific part of the work can be used to cite genres as a trope; the work itself is the example, and so Genres belong in the description of the work itself, and Genre Mashup is no different.
edited 4th Dec '16 1:34:40 PM by crazysamaritan
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.I would agree with Example Sectionectomying Genre-Busting, but not Genre Mashup.
Clock is set.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSince we already have a decision to merge in the crowner, I assume the clock is for any last minute suggestions before we start the merge, rather than for closing the discussion?
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.No, for closing the discussion as forgotten. There is no point in having a list of work to do if nobody is willing to do it.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman...
I'd forgotten completely about the sandbox version. Sorry. I could use some help, though.
Sandbox.Genre Mashup is the page you're working on, right? I think you're looking to expand the definition, give better details for the audience, right?
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.The description looks ok. It could be fleshed out more, but it's at least adequate to the purpose.
I think the bigger thing is going through the examples to see if they really fit.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.Yeah. Some examples are written like they're both Genre Mashup and Genre-Busting. I can't tell if that's really true or just hyperbole. I also need to clean gushing about how great things are because they mix genres.
Hmm, the best approach might be to start out being inclusive: if it's not clearly a case of shoehorning, then go ahead and include it. Once we got the proper pages all in the proper places, then we can have a separate cleanup phase if we still feel it's necessary.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.I don't see what's wrong with something being both Genre Mashup and Genre-Busting if neither is misuse. I would go with the sectionectomy if it had enough consensus, but now I'm just continuing as planned.
edited 16th Jan '17 7:47:40 PM by TropesForever
Almost by definition there will always be 1 genre blending that is both. There is always 1 which combined a Role Playing experience with a video game for example and that is the old 1972 game called Adventure.
edited 16th Jan '17 7:55:19 PM by Memers
I moved the sandbox to Main; even if the examples aren't fully cleaned out, that's just normal wiki maintenance. We need to carry out the decisions made by this thread.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.What is left to do? Are all non-music examples on Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly sorted? Can we move the image to GenreMashup.Music and cut the page?
edited 2nd Mar '17 2:00:05 AM by eroock
They're not sorted yet.
Which ones are missing that should be there? I noticed some examples were not moved but it seems they were deemed unsuitable for Genre Mashup.
I took all the examples from Genre-Busting, then worked through them to remove ones that aren't examples of Genre Mashup. It's possible that, since the draft has been around for so long, there are new examples that were added to Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly that aren't on Genre Mashup.
A minor issue. We are still left with sorting the cross wicks for non-music examples.
Question: Would the examples in Mix And Match worth copying over to Genre Mashup? (With rewriting of course)
We don't need justice when we can forgive. We don't need tolerance when we can love.This has been dormant for months, so bumping for more action towards wick cleaning.
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- Alternative Dance
- Alternative Hip Hop
- Alternative Indie
- Alternative Metal
- Cowboy Bebop
- Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
- Audience-Alienating Premise
- Audience Participation Song
- Monty Python's Contractual Obligation Album
- Avant-Garde Metal
- Baroque Pop
- Bifauxnen
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- Black Sheep Hit
- Boy Band
- Camp Straight
- Cast Herd
- Brütal Legend
- Destructive Harmonics
- Dragon Ball Multiverse
- Freedom City Play By Post MNO
- Mother 3
- Parks and Recreation
- Project Runway Season 1
- Sound Horizon First Era Albums
- Touhou Double Dealing Character
- Christian Rock
- Contemporary R&B
- Country Rap
- Cover Version
- Austin Scholl
- Lapfox Trax
- Nick Shutter
- Shoji Meguro
- Creator's Oddball
- Cyberpunk
- Dark Wave
- Hello!
- ☯utlaw St★rr
- Death Metal
- Deathcore
- Distaff Counterpart
- Distinct Double Album
- Doom Metal
- Dream Pop
- Dubstep
- Electro House
- Electronic/Industrial
- Example as a Thesis
- Pop
- Mass Effect: Interregnum
- Power Rangers GPX
- Airheads
- Alleluia! The Devil's Carnival
- Colossal
- Creating Rem Lezar
- Extract
- Get Crazy
- Queen of the Damned
- Six String Samurai
- Sound City
- The Commitments
- Folk Metal
- Friendly Fandoms
- Funk
- Funk Metal
- Funk Rock
- Freefall
- Fusion
- Genre Blending
- Genre-Busting
- Genre Mashup
- Genre Roulette
- Genre Throwback
- Genres
- Grindcore
- Hardcore Punk
- Hardcore Techno
- The Birthday Massacre
- Hip-Hop / Rap
- Indie Pop
- Industrial
- Industrial Metal
- D to F
- Come for the X, Stay for the Y
- Trope Names for a Band
- Gorillaz
- Linkin Park
- Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly
- Lead Bassist
- Chorocojo
- Spoiler Warning
- A Game of Universe
- On the Jellicoe Road
- Magnum Opus Dissonance
- AKIRA
- Nanashi no Asterism
- Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru
- Melodic Death Metal
- Metal
- Metalcore
- Minimalism
- Moe
- Mohs Scale Of Rock And Metal Hardness
- Levels 6 and 7
- Levels 8 and 9
- Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly
- Nerdcore
- New Sound Album
- Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot
- Noise Rock
- Not Christian Rock
- Nu Metal
- Obfuscating Disability
- One-Woman Wail
- Orchestral Bombing
- PBR&B
- Periphery Hatedom
- Nobody Loves the Bassist
- Post-Hardcore
- Post-Punk
- Post-Rock
- Power Pop
- Pretty Fly for a White Guy
- Progressive Metal
- Progressive Rock
- Psychedelic Rock
- Rap Metal
- Rap Rock
- Bobs Burger S 4 E 10 Presto Tina O
- Bojack Horseman S 1 E 04 Zoes And Zeldas
- Doctor Who S6 E6 "The Space Pirates"
- Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia S 03 E 09 Sweet Dee Dating Retarded Person
- My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic S5 E19 "Crusaders of the Lost Mark"
- My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic S5 E9 "Slice of Life"
- My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic S6 E10 "The Saddle Row Review"
- Mystery Science Theater 3000 S11 E03: The Time Travelers
- Record Producer
- Reggae
- Reviewer Standard Comparisons
- Sensory Abuse
- Cosmos
- People of Earth
- Spicks and Specks
- The Sing-Off
- Vic Reeves Big Night Out
- Ska Punk
- Sleeper Hit
- Something Something Leonard Bernstein
- Southern Rock
- Space Opera
- Surprisingly Gentle Song
- Cormorant
- Technical Death Metal
- The Pete Best
- The Roadie
- The Trail to Oregon!
- N to P
- Trance
- Trip Hop
- Britney Spears
- Hideto Matsumoto
- Lamento - beyond the void
- Lolita Fashion
- Visual Kei
- UVER World
- Vaporwave
- Brütal Legend
- Commandos
- Eversion
- Jet Set Radio
- LittleBigPlanet
- Ni GHTS Into Dreams
- No More Heroes
- Pale Blue
- Rock Band
- RPG Shooter: Starwish
- Sonic Dreams Collection
- Sonic Rush Series
- Street Fighter III
- Visual Kei
- Vocal Tag Team
- Axe Cop
- Freefall
- Templar Arizona
- My Little Pony: Equestria Girls – Friendship Games
- Lollipop Chainsaw
- A Dose of Buckley
- Brütal Legend
- Incubus
- Neil Cicierega
- Stinking Lizaveta
- The Mask
edited 4th Oct '17 3:49:05 AM by eroock
Locking per New Year Purge.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanUnlocked and moved back into action for the merge since an Image Pickin' thread pointed out that the pages are using the same pic.
Crown Description:
What is the best way forward to sort out the issue with Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly?
Hmm. I'm torn. On the one hand, Genre Mashup is a genre of sorts. (Specifically, a list of two or more genres.) And we do generally put genres above the line. On the other hand, unlike a more conventional genre, Genre Mashup requires details—specifically, which genres are being mashed up.
I'm leaning towards crazysamaritan's suggestion, but I'm not completely sold yet.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.