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    Anime and Manga 

Madoka: Why would Kyubey do something so cruel?
Homura: He doesn't think it's cruel. That being has no understanding of human values.

    Comic Books 

I can't imagine what it would have been like in their command centre when the missiles turned back on themselves. This was, in fact, the hard swallow for the rest of the world: the understanding that a superhuman, by definition, does not think like us and certainly does not act like us.
Reddin, Supergod


    Fan Works 

For one of dragon's blood to not take up weapons, to not prepare night and day to slaughter any enemies that would come against them—it is unthinkable. It is—one who does such a thing, who believes the world will not be dangerous, will not strive to kill him… That is what we call insane.
Shidan, Embers

    Film - Animated 

I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.


Companions, the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks — those who inscribe new values on new tablets. Fellow creators, the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest.

On the front of the Octavo had been a representation of Bel-Shamharoth. He was not Evil, for even Evil has a certain vitality — Bel-Shamharoth was the flip side of the coin of which Good and Evil are but one side.

If you have struck any kind of bargain with Griphook, and most particularly if that bargain involves treasure, you must be exceptionally careful. Goblin notions of ownership, payment, and repayment are not the same as human ones.

The stuff they do comes so far out of left-field, it feels like they're NPCs in some badly-scripted RPG. And it doesn't help that their stats are broken as all hell.

His real error had been the naive belief that his definition of pleasure significantly overlapped with that of the Cenobites. As it was, they had brought incalculable suffering. They had overdosed him on sensuality until his mind teetered on madness, then they'd initiated him into experiences that his nerves still convulsed to recall. They had called it pleasure, and perhaps they meant it. Perhaps not. It was impossible to know with these minds; they were so hopelessly, flawlessly ambiguous.

It would be impossible for a mere Earth-bound imagination to understand the motives for their exploration, their attitudes to the life-forms they have found, or their long-term intentions.

In an angel’s philosophy, it was once said, two times two equals thirteen. This is not slander. Angels are not crazy, could not be further from madness. They have, insofar as any theologian understands, absolute purity of purpose. A stiletto-sharp fidelity to the task of keeping Heaven clean.

To messy-minded humans… so clear & precise a drive makes no sense at all. It is considerably less comprehensible than the ravings of those we call insane.

Angels, unremittingly & absolutely sane, cannot but seem to poor humanity relentlessly & madly murderous.

If [Cat] were human, you would have described him as vain. But you can't apply human values to a cat.
Red Dwarf: Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers

    Live-Action TV 

It is different, yeah. It's a different morality, get used to it, or go home.
The Ninth Doctor, Doctor Who

Good and evil has nothing to do with God. I collect church collapses, did you see the recent one in Sicily? The façade fell on sixty-five grandmothers attending a special mass. Was that evil? Was that God? If he's up there, he just loves it. Typhoid and swans, it all comes from the same place.
Dr. Lecter, Hannibal

Finch: Even if I had succeeded in creating a benevolent Machine, as if any such thing could exist, never forget that even a so-called friendly artificial super-intelligence would be every bit as dangerous as an unfriendly one.
Shaw: Your Machine seems pretty warm and fuzzy to me.
Finch: Have you forgotten that it asked us to kill a congressman?
Shaw: But that was to stop Samaritan from going online.
Finch: So where does it end, Ms. Shaw? A congressman here, a president there. What if, one day, a friendly AI decides to end world hunger by killing enough people off of the planet that there would never again be a shortage of food? It would have fulfilled its goal, but it doesn't exactly sound like it has our best interests at heart.
Root: Your Machine would never do that.
Finch: You don't know that, Ms. Groves. To say that a machine is benevolent doesn't make it so. It just makes you blind to the reality.
Shaw: Which is?
Finch: That our moral system will never be mirrored by theirs because of the very simple reason that they are not human.
Person of Interest, "The Cold War"


Tex: Thanks for the light show, D.
Delta: I am here to assist.
Wyoming: Bollocks.
Delta: However, I am afraid I will not be able to assist you further. York's armor is beginning to shut down.
Tex: I understand.
Delta: Good luck to both of you.
Wyoming: Both of us? You must be failing if you wish your enemy luck.
Delta: Good and evil are human constructs, Reginald. I was merely attempting to be courteous.



Mephisto: The eyes of a human are dull after all. What's so good about that form? Look closely! This small and short form! Look how cool it is! This is a devil's aesthetics!
Si-Un: A devil's aesthetics... I don't get it.
Su-In: Are all devils like that?
Mephisto: See, look at Su-In. Her legs are long and ugly.

    Tabletop Games 

For millennia, the Fiends have explored and refined their understanding of the vampiric condition, bending their bodies and thoughts into new and alien patterns. Should it prove necessary, enlightening or simply enjoyable, Tzimisce do not hesitate to bend victims in a similar fashion. While younger Fiends might be described as merciless or sadistic, elders of the line simply fail to comprehend mercy or suffering - or perhaps they do comprehend, but no longer consider such emotions relevant.

Gremlins are horrific little monsters, especially considering their motives. They don't want to hurt anyone, but they don't care that they do - they just want everything to run smoothly. How the gremlins got the idea that integrating human organics with machines would help them run smoothly is a bit of a mystery.

    Video Games 

Can you, mortal, presume to judge the actions and motives of a god?

That's why the Dwemer are the weirdest race in Tamriel and, frankly, also the scariest. They look(ed) like us, they sometimes act(ed) like us, but when you really put them under the magnifying glass you see nothing but vessels that house an intelligence and value system that is by all accounts Beyond Human Comprehension.


It is interesting that every country seems to have its own, most often irrational, opinion which type of behavior is a big no-no and which isn’t. In Germany prostitution is completely legal, but proving yourself to be an idiot by saying that the holocaust didn’t happen can land you in prison.
Sandra and Woo, summing up this trope in two sentences.

Eat it, kill it, make friends with it or take a bath in it. Those are the points on your moral compass.
Kevyn to Sgt. Schlock, Schlock Mercenary

    Western Animation 

I'm not mean, I'm a thousand years old, and I just lost track of my moral code.
Marceline, Adventure Time

Well, [Rick]'s not a villain, but... he shouldn't be your hero, Summer. He's more like a demon or a super fucked-up god.
Morty, Rick and Morty


    Real Life 

Interested persons may want to look into the work of psychologist Jonathan Haidt on "Moral Foundations theory," summarized in his book The Righteous Mind. So far, he's found six moral attitudes that influence people's judgments — often unconsciously — and they all arise pretty simply from selection pressures within groups and between groups. (There may be additional Moral Foundations. Research continues.) Many political and ideological conflicts arise not because one group is Good and another is Evil, but because people assign different weights to particular moral foundations — often to such an extent that they literally cannot comprehend what the other side is saying.
Any society that lasts very long will have a powerful and pervasive moral underpinning. It might not be one you understand, or would approve of if you did, but it's there.
Dean Shomshak, discussing Exalted

The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else.

Perhaps some diseases perceived as diseases which destroy a well-functioning machine, in fact change the machine into a machine that does something else, and we have to figure out what it is that the machine now does. Instead of having a defective machine, we have a nicely-functioning machine that just has a different purpose. Part of it is a self-deceptive way of coping with the peculiarities of disease, but on the other hand I can imagine what it feels like to be a virus. The AIDS virus: look at it from its point of view - very vital, very excited, having a good time, its made the front page and as really flexing its muscles and doing what it does. It's really a triumph if you're a virus. It's really good stuff that's happening, it's not bad at all.