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The Hindsight tropes, Hilarious in Hindsight, Harsher in Hindsight, and Heartwarming in Hindsight, are among the most misused Audience Reaction tropes on this site. Many people don't understand that the tropes require more than just "This happened, so that happened", and end up adding examples which either lack connection or the substance that makes them funny/serious/not-so-funny/heartwarming. Some of them may be suited better for other tropes (ex: Life Imitates Art), while some may not belong on TV Tropes at all (such as ones involving politicians, due to Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment).

Please report any Hindsight example that you feel are questionable, and we'll analyze them to see if they are actually examples or not.

Remember that the Hindsight tropes are Audience Reactions. That means if an example under review discusses significant fan response pointing out the hindsight, the example can't be cut solely for being too tenuous for this thread.

    Common NOT in Hindsight examples 
  • Creator's character/portrayal dies in work and then creator dies in real life, unless their fictional death is closely similar to their real one (such as Billy Bob Joe portraying a character who dies from pancreatic cancer, then Billy Bob dies from pancreatic cancer himself)
  • Mundane word related to something terrible (such as "corona" or "Epstein") unless there's more to the connection (such as someone named "Corona" having the flu)
  • Creator appears in work then becomes more controversial later on.
  • A common event (such as a typical natural disaster) happens in work, then happens in real life (unless they are closely similar, such as the event happening to the same area in both reality and fiction around the same time) For once, not everything related to disease has to do with COVID-19, not everything related to racism and Police Brutality has to do with George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, and not everything related to sexual abuse has to do with #MeToo.
  • A common/generic concept was used in this work and then later reused in that work (too loose for a connection, unless the concept is so unique it's identified with the work)
  • Two actors appear together then do so in another work
  • Hindsight examples involving recent events, due to them often being shoehorns. Specifically:
    • COVID-19 examples, before 75% of the population has returned to normal
    • George Floyd/2020 Black Lives Matter examples, before protests have declined
  • Examples which fall guilty of Older Than They Think, such as "Make X Great Again" slogans. Aside from violating the ROCEJ, this slogan has been in use since the 1940s.
  • Characters using slurs which are treated as annoying at worst in the work, but is now harsher due to how severe the slur is made now. Discrimination has always existed with that slur. (May qualify for Values Dissonance if work is at least 20 years old.)

Note: As of January 2022, "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is no longer separate from Harsher in Hindsight.
  • The former redirects to the latter and all wicks to the former (with the exception of ones on archive pages and the YMMV Redirects index) must either be moved to the latter (if they're valid) or removed (if they're invalid).
  • The subpages for the former are still accessible from this page. After a subpage for "Funny Aneurysm" Moment has been completely cleaned up, turn it into a redirect to the Harsher in Hindsight subpage for the same medium to preserve inbounds.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 21st 2023 at 11:51:25 AM

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#5376: Apr 15th 2022 at 10:12:40 PM

From YMMV.Total Drama:

  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • In the first episode, Trent is introduced as "contestant number 9". This becomes hilarious when, in the second season, his sudden obsession with said number becomes a major plot point for the episodes that lead to his elimination. Possible
    • In "Alien Resurr-egg-tion" Chris' Incredibly Lame Pun becomes Actually Pretty Funny since February 22, 2022 fell on a Tuesday so it was literally Twos-day. Seems like a stretch
    • Also in the first episode, Tyler assures Gwen, "At least you don't have to sleep next to him" and nods towards Duncan, who's noogeying a deer nearby. Two seasons later, Gwen and Duncan become a couple. Unsure
    • Cody and Cameron are voiced by the same person in the Romanian dub. This became much funnier come All-Stars, as Sierra's hallucinations involve Cameron turning into Cody. Loose Actor Connection
    • The 6teen parody sequence in Action, already a funny scene on its own, becomes even more hilarious now that characters from both series have crossed over in Total DramaRama. Unsure
    • In Anne Maria's audition tape, she refers the show to as "Total Drama Rama whatever". Fast forward to 2018 and the Spinoff Babies series that was originally called Total Drama Daycare has been renamed to Total DramaRama. Probably valid
    • In Action, there is an episode called "Ocean's Eight... Or Nine". The title, of course, was a homage to Ocean's Eleven at the time, but in 2018 an actual movie called Ocean's 8 came out. Now it's the Ocean's film series ripping off Total Drama rather than the other way around! Possible
    • This wouldn't be the last cartoon series to feature a cynical Only Sane Man character named Gwen staying at a summer camp. Fan Myopia
    • In "The EX-Files", the players infiltrate Area 51. In mid-July of 2019, memes about civilians storming Area 51 became prominent across the internet (and then, in September, it actually happened in real life). I remember people jokingly comparing the two, so this might be valid
    • One of the many film genres tackled in Total Drama Action was the superhero genre and the finale of Revenge of the Island directly referenced Iron Man. Over a decade later, Clé Bennett (the voice of Chef, DJ, Beardo and Leonard) would join the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Battlestar. Actor connection
    • In "Runaway Model", one challenge involves saving a kidnapped Lindsay from Sasquatchanakwa. In one scene, Sam, an expy of Seth Rogen, hallucinations the challenge as one big homage to Donkey Kong. Several years later, Seth Rogen himself would be cast as the voice actor for Donkey Kong in Illumination Entertainment's Super Mario movie. A little too many degrees of separation
    • Chris' voice actor Christian Potenza would later be cast as the host of Last Car Standing, an actual non-animated reality show. Actor connection

Any additional thoughts?

Edited by costanton11 on Apr 15th 2022 at 12:13:15 PM

mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#5377: Apr 16th 2022 at 10:34:29 AM

  • Keep the 9 joke, especially because he's the only character to be singled out numerically like that even though his number 9 obsession doesn't come up for another season.
  • Cut, that date was inevitable if you do the math and it's just a lame pun.
  • I added this cuz it's something I've noticed since I was like, 13. Gwen and Duncan don't get real Ship Tease til Action (they just have a couple platonic interactions in Island) so it's unintentional but funny in hindsight. (And this is not long after Duncan uses the whole bunk situation question to flirt with Heather, so the potential for Ship Tease has been acknowledged leading into this scene.)
  • I could see the Cody and Cameron thing. It's not a "loose" actor connection because a major plot point in All-Stars is Sierra using Cameron as a direct Replacement Goldfish for Cody and even calling him "Cody" multiple times. They don't share a VA in English so it's not an intentional Actor Allusion either.
  • Not sure about the 6teen parody but I'm inclined against it — it's simply a case of multiple Company Cross References for Fresh TV, with the theme song parody just being the most blatant one. The shows' canons have been welded in other episodes, like with Lindsay referencing Khaki Barn in World Tour.
  • Keep the Anne Maria one
  • I say to keep the Action one cuz who would've thought it would specifically be Ocean's Eight?
  • The Camp Camp one is Fan Myopia, and I even wonder if it's a deliberate Shout-Out since Gwen is one of the more well-known characters even by non-fans.
  • I also remember the jokes about Area 51. I would say that any cartoon that dealt with civilians storming Area 51 was hit with jokes like that... but TD is one of the only ones I can actually think of besides maybe Futurama so I guess it counts.
  • Cut the Iron Man one, none of Bennett's characters even have a really direct role in these episodes. Maybe if Cameron's VA became Iron Man it'd make more sense.
  • I lean to cut "Runaway Model." Maybe if Sam himself was Donkey Kong, or was actually played by Seth Rogen, but I agree, too many degrees of separation.
  • I think the actor connection here is valid. Chris McLean is definitely Potenza's biggest role, at least outside of Canada, so him actually hosting a reality show is deeply amusing.

Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 16th 2022 at 1:35:29 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#5378: Apr 16th 2022 at 11:57:39 AM

Agreed with everything Mightymewtron said. Found another example that might be a Covid shoehorn in Resident Evil 3 (Remake):

  • Harsher in Hindsight: The opening for the game comes across as disturbingly prophetic with scenes of riot and public distress, and in particular the reporter's line "This pandemic has spread faster than any disease in modern history" (which is notably the first line in the game). The parallels to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and especially the riots over American police behavior are unsettling to say the least.

You can watch the secene here.

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#5379: Apr 16th 2022 at 12:07:39 PM

[up]That is indeed a COVID shoehorn.

MissConduct (Lucky 7)
#5380: Apr 17th 2022 at 11:21:40 AM

Here's the changes I'm making to Network's Hindsights:

    Old 
Harsher:
  • The entire film, given Peter Finch's death a few months after the film's release. His fainting at the end of his monologues and the ending are even more difficult to watch, especially if you know that Finch's fatal heart attack happened the morning after he appeared as a guest on The Tonight Show. I can make something out of the fact that he died after appearing on The Tonight Show, but the whole "entire film" thing is stupid and any bullet that lists "the entire film" as harsher or hilarious needs to burn.
  • One specific example: A fourth major television network, backed by a huge corporation, built upon content that's trashier than its rivals. One of its flagship shows features Real Life footage of criminals, and it quickly cancels any shows that don't keep up in the ratings? This may as well have been a documentary on the rise of Fox, if it hadn't been made in 1976. Complaining.
  • A meta example. Peter Finch, an Australian previously Oscar-nominated for playing a homosexual man, died soon after playing the part of an anti-establishment nutcase and ended up winning a posthumous Oscar for the role. Who does that remind you of? Although I've heard the Peter Finch-Heath Ledger comparison elsewhere, it's actor garbage.
  • At the beginning of the film, they mention a journalist named "Snowden" in conjunction with a story about the CIA. Too tenuous, also Snowden isn't that uncommon a name.
  • The concept of violent criminals filming their crimes while performing them (and in particular the final scene with reference to that) and subsequently broadcasting the footage has become this in the wake of extremist execution videos. The debate about filming violence and its aftermath was totally a debate during the Vietnam era, so it fails the hindsight clause.
  • A major part of UBS' Network Decay is that they give airtime to unstable loons like Howard Beale and extremists like the Ecumenical Liberation Army, allowing them to spout their propaganda virtually unchallenged simply because people think it's entertaining. This became a major criticism of both the "traditional" media and newer social media in the 21st century, that they were delegating their responsibility and giving platforms to violent radicals in the name of ratings and clicks. Maybe?
  • In one of his early outlines, Paddy Chayefsky summed up a main theme of the story as being “It is possible through television to take a small matter and blow it up to monumental proportions.” You could only imagine how he would've responded to the Internet, which can be much, much worse in that regard. Not really hindsight because, as Chayefsky said, this was totally a thing possible during this era with the TV.
  • Hilarious:
    • Beale's first remarks on the air after he learns he's fired is that he ran out of bullshit, which then turns his show into a rant program. Sounds much like You Know What's Bullshit?. Fan Myopia.
    • The Patty Hearst parody, played by the daughter of a famous TV news anchor, is named Mary Ann Gifford. In The '80s, Kathie Lee Gifford would become a nationally syndicated Talk Show host. Gifford is also not that unusual of a surname, so actor garbage, especially since Mary Ann Gifford herself was not a talk show host in the story.

    New 

  • Harsher in Hindsight: Howard Beale's death happened on camera on national television. His actor, Peter Finch, himself almost died on camera, dying the morning after appearing on The Tonight Show.
    • A major part of UBS' Network Decay is that they give airtime to unstable loons like Howard Beale and extremists like the Ecumenical Liberation Army, allowing them to spout their propaganda virtually unchallenged simply because people think it's entertaining. This became a major criticism of both the "traditional" media and newer social media in the 21st century, that they were delegating their responsibility and giving platforms to violent radicals in the name of ratings and clicks.

(No Hilarious)

MissConduct (Lucky 7)
#5381: Apr 17th 2022 at 1:14:26 PM

Going to clean up the rest of the stuff that was on my wick check for FAM that hasn't already been taken care of and cut some garbage, and there's some I'd like second opinions on before giving them the axe:

     Long 

  • Noises Off: In the film version, Christopher Reeve (rather impressively) hops up an entire flight of stairs with his pants around his ankles. Three years later, his horse racing accident severed his first two vertebrae, paralyzing him from the neck down. This trope applies to those born in the mid-80s and later, as they pretty much only know the paralyzed Reeve; it becomes Harsher in Hindsight for everyone else. I considered this an okay usage in the wick check, but that last sentence still befuddles me - why would someone older than 35 think the gag was never funny to begin with, as Harsher in Hindsight implies? I think we can keep the first two sentences, but can the last one go?
  • Ninotchka: There is a short gag at the train station where the three commissioners mistake a man for their superior, only to see him give a Nazi salute and a "Heil Hitler" to his wife. The joke actually soured between filming and release, because Germany declared war during that time. Now that what the Nazis did is well-known, it's even harsher. Maybe keep?
  • The Kliq: Any of Shawn's matches before 2002, and any of Scott or Kid's matches ever, if you know about their drug problems. It's almost guaranteed that they're performing while stoned and/or drunk. If this stays, it at least needs to be reworded, and I don't know enough about Pro-Wrestling to write that. If I can't get any help on this, it'll go entirely.
  • Independence Day: 9/11 was often compared to this film. It doesn't help that when they're fleeing the White House, David checks the countdown and "9:11:01" is clearly visible on it. It is a complete coincidence, but still. Irrelevant coincidence of numbers. Cut, please?
    • Joe Viskocil, the film's pyrotechnics expert, later lamented that his work was so realistic that it may have served as the nucleus of an idea someone had to "fly a plane into the White House."note  While having someone who worked on the film helps this one's case, Mr. Viskocil should probably be informed that someone else tried to fly a plane into the White House in the 70's. Thus, it would fail the Hindsight clause, despite Viskocil's statement.
  • The Wiz:
    • The Emerald City is represented by the World Trade Center. "Twin Towers appear" HIH.
    • During the second season of American Idol, during the movie theme week, one of the contestants sung "You Can't Win" as their choice which didn't agree with the judges. In the following elimination round, he was knocked out of the running. Should maybe go on American Idol's YMMV page instead of The Wiz's?
  • Man on Wire: Despite the lack of mention, 9/11 might still come up in the viewers' mind at several point. The mist shown rising from one tower on the morning of the walk is eerily similar to the smoke from the attack, and Roger Ebert mentioned to have first mistaken the past footage of the towers being built for the wreckage of Ground Zero. Given this film's deliberate attempt to dodge talking about 9/11, I'm calling this a shoehorn.
  • The Velvet Underground: The lyrics to "Sunday Morning", given that Lou Reed died on a Sunday morning in 2013. Lines like "watch out, the world's behind you" change meaning completely. "Sunday Morning" is not about death, so cut?
  • Santana (the web video, not the band): "The deaths of Ragoo and Sookdeo in the series is more uncomfortable to watch now that their voice actor and puppeteer passed away." "Character dies, actor dies" nonsense.
  • Sean Connery Is About to Shoot You: "The cover for N.W.A's final album Niggaz4life/Efil4zaggin makes it appear that Eazy-E's ghost is about to grab you." Given that, on that album cover, it appeared that Eazy-E was killed by gun violence, while in the real world he died of AIDS, I'm inclined to say it shouldn't count on account of the differing causes of death.
  • The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp: "Spud boasts that should he live to see 1983, he will at least be an old gentleman. His actor, James McKechnie, didn't get to be that old, dying in 1964 at fifty-three." Actor garbage, right?
  • Iron Chef:
    • For those lucky bastards that got to see the two battles with Rory Kennedy, this comes into play once you remember he died about a year after his battles. (In the procession of chefs in the final battle, he is represented by a portrait.)
    • Kobe, the youngest of the Iron Chefs, was the first one to die (in 2019 from a head injury).
    • Favored heel Toshiro Kandagawa has also died as of April 2021 due to complications from COVID. Watching him be moved to tears as he gets a medal for his clean sweep against Sakai can hit hard when you realize that this was his last appearance for more than one reason... All "actor dies later" garbage. The fourth bullet point on the page can stay though.
  • Four Weddings and a Funeral: "Carrie says that she's slept with fewer men than Madonna but more than Princess Di, a joke that seems much more awkward after Princess Diana's death in 1997." It's just a "Princess Di gets mentioned, then she died". The joke has nothing to do with anything bad happening to her.
  • Little Nicky: "Todd imagining Nicky as Kevin Spacey, in order to kill him." Controversial person gets mentioned.
    • Also, while we're on Little Nicky, let's axe these Fan Myopia Hilarious In Hindsights:
      • Adrian, Cassius and Dante are half-demon, half-prostitute.
      • Nick and Dante are also half-demon, half-angel.
      • In Injustice 2, the Joker looks just like Little Nicky, even an interaction with Batman references Hell.
  • The O.C.
    • Chris Brown's three-episode guest spot in Season 4 as the young fifteen-year-old Kaitlin Cooper's nerd boyfriend is slightly odd to rewatch now.
    • Of course, this is nowhere near as bad as seeing the late Johnny Lewis, who possibly murdered someone as nerdy Chili. Controversial people appeared in this show, oh no!
  • Forza: There are two songs by Lostprophets in Horizon 1's soundtrack. Cue a few months after the release of the game and Lostprophets frontman Ian Watkins has been charged with child sexual abuse. The music is still awesome, but you can't help feeling a little awkward or disgusted while you hear them. As previously mentioned, neither of these songs is about child sexual abuse.
  • Step Up: Revolution features a scene of the heroes crashing the villain's party, where they throw in smoke bombs and then dance around while dressed completely in black with gas masks, to a song that includes gunshot sound effects. Even considering that this is plot-relevant, it's rather jaw-dropping that the studio didn't feel the need to remove this scene after the massacre at an Aurora, Colorado screening of The Dark Knight Rises the week before the film's release, although advertising featuring said scene was pulled as a result. Since it didn't take place at a movie theatre, I'm inclined to pull. At least let's get rid of the pearl-clutching tone of the last sentence.
  • M*A*S*H S3 E21: Big Mac: Frank Burns destroys some of the literature read in the camp because MacArthur might find them immoral. That sounds very familiar to all the people in modern times saying that classic family films such as those made by Disney are much too violent and dark for a young child audience and demanding that all future films and kids' shows are to be made Lighter and Softer. As I previously said, I'm guessing that Frank Burns probably found those books immoral 'cause they were too erotic (these were a bunch of men stationed overseas without a ton of women around, if you know what I'm saying), hard to tie that into people calling Disney films too dark. This also really sounds like complaining about Moral Guardians.
  • Highlander: Roxanne Hart would go on to star in the TV movie Our Mother's Murder as Anne Scripps Douglas, whose abusive husband drives erratically to terrorize her, much like the Kurgan. Not only is the scene not played for laughs, but it's also Based on a True Story. Casting Gag.
  • Law & Order: UK: "DI Chandler comments to Ronnie and Matt that whoever cleaned a crime scene "must be a fan of CSI". Shortly after leaving the show, Jamie Bamber, who played Matt, guest-starred on an episode of CSI: Miami. Even "funnier", after several years of playing a by-the-book cop, he was now playing a criminal. . .named Ronnie.note " Casting Gag again.
  • Singin' in the Rain: "Thanks to A Clockwork Orange, it can be hard to watch the titular musical number without being disturbed." Meta Connection.
  • Peggy Sue Got Married: "After Peggy Sue returns from her time travels, Charlie said he would cut his right arm off for another chance to reconcile with her. Ronny, Nicolas Cage's character in Moonstruck, is missing a hand due to an accident at the bakery after his fiancée dumped him." Casting Gag
  • Oliver Twist: "In the 1997 adaptation, Dodger is sent to prison instead of Australia, presumably not to offend Australians. Dodger's talk about all the things he'll learn in prison becomes less funny and more disturbing the older you get." I'm no expert on Nineteenth Century jails, but I'm taking a wild guess that Prison Rape isn't a concept that originated between 1838 and 1997.
  • amiibo: On July 10, 2015 the Ness and Smash Bros. King Dedede amiibo were both restocked at Gamestop. These characters came from Earthbound and Kirby respectively which both franchises's second games Satoru Iwata were personally involved in. The very next day, Iwata died with a public announcement not too long after. This restocking is like an unintentional way of giving another chance to obtain Iwata's remembrances before he died. There also might been a chance that this restocking was that last Nintendo news he knew about before his passing. Really coincidental connection; I know there was a massive gush-fest after Satoru Iwata died and this seems like something that slipped through the cracks on that cleanup.
  • The Electric Company:
    • The skit "Spidey Meets the Yeti" where a woman's demand on Spider-Man that she will stop reading his comics if he failed to stop the title Yeti became less hilarious after the negative reception of Spider-Man comics, such as The Clone Saga and One More Day. Poorly received Spider-Man comics probably existed before those two, and probably before this skit too.
    • The Adventures of Letterman short had a villain, the Spellbinder, whose primary mission was to wreak havoc by changing letters of words into new words, causing humorous situations ... for the most part. However, there were several episodes that, while when aired in 1974-1976 might have been seen as funny, would have such situations classed as terrorism today. These include Spellbinder changing "plane" into "plant" (by changing the "e") and causing it to fall toward the earth, and removing the "b" in bridge to create a "ridge" and a way for a high-speed passenger train to fall into the crevice; both incidents put the lives of dozens of people, including children, in jeopardy. These segments would be banned from television after Sept. 11, 2001. Although 9/11 would cause this scene to become a Banned Episode, plane and train crashes are not new.
    • "Spidey Meets Silly Willy", 'No one would expect a clown to rob them!' with how ironic clowns have completely overwhelmed the unironic ones in popular culture and the 'scary clown' craze that happened, this scheme doesn't feel as plausible like it used to. Although scary clowns are more popular now than Non Ironic Clowns, I don't know how that reflects poorly on this skit's premise.

Also, since according to the Wayback Machine, Funny Aneurysm Moment was at about 4,200 wicks right before the TRS thread, and we're now down to about 2,400, we're almost halfway done! Good work everybody!

Edited by MissConduct on Apr 18th 2022 at 11:05:53 AM

RustBeard Since: Sep, 2016
#5382: Apr 17th 2022 at 5:42:17 PM

This is from The Proposal:

  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: In response to Margaret and Andrew trying to use her upcoming birthday to dissuade Andrew's parents from hosting their wedding, Annie has this response: "I've had 89 birthday parties, I don't need another one!" While a harmless quip at the time, it takes on a much heavier connotation in light of Betty White passing away a mere 17 days before her 100th birthday.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: In the movie's climax, Betty White's character feigned a heart problem to get Andrew and his father to stop arguing. Betty passed away on the last day of 2021, due to natural causes.

I feel like this is just actor mortality.

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#5383: Apr 17th 2022 at 6:41:11 PM

[up] Yeah. If the line was "I've had 99 birthday parties", then it would be valid, but as it stands it isn't.

(You should probably expect actor mortality shoehorns with her.)

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#5384: Apr 19th 2022 at 2:45:43 AM

I wanted to check if this would be appropriate to add to Years and Years:

  • Harsher in Hindsight: One of the show's montages briefly mentions that Russia annexed Ukraine in 2022, which becomes a cause of the refugee crisis facing the UK. In Real Life, Russia did launch an invasion of Ukraine in 2022, causing a refugee crisis.

"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".
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#5385: Apr 19th 2022 at 2:51:09 AM

[up] Still ongoing, so we'll have to wait and see if Russia actually annexes Ukraine.

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maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#5387: Apr 19th 2022 at 6:55:17 AM

From Poltergeist

  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • The subtle Running Gag of Dana being a bit of a tramp became harder to stomach when the actress was murdered by her ex-boyfriend only a few months later. Those two things have nothing to do with each other
    • The film focuses on Heather O'Rourke's character being trapped in a netherworld of ghosts. The actress would pass away at the age of twelve. Actor mortality
    • A poster in the children's bedroom wall advertises the 1988 Superbowl. O'Rourke ended up dying on the day of the '88 Superbowl. Maybe
    • The canary-burial scene's a lot grimmer when you consider that two of the three mourners will be dead in a few years. Actor mortality
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • In one scene, Steve and Diane are in their bedroom and the movie A Guy Named Joe is playing on their television. Not only is this a movie about a dead person who is still "hanging around" as the spirits in this film are, but Steven Spielberg remade the film seven years later as Always.Not sure
    • Diane gives Carol Ann an old cigar box to bury Tweety Bird; Carol Ann complains that the box smells funny. The assumption is that the old box still smells of cigars, except that later in the film, we see Diane hastily hiding the parental marijuana in an identical cigar box, implying that Diane gave Carol Ann her old stash box as a pet coffin. Sounds like Fridge Brilliance

BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#5388: Apr 19th 2022 at 9:35:44 PM

YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic S 2 E 2 The Return Of Harmony Part 2 has the following entries:

The Hearwarming and Hilarious entries seem alright to me, but the Harsher entry is just complaining. It's understandable to feel upset about this moment, but I still feel the entry's not necessary.

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#5389: Apr 19th 2022 at 9:46:49 PM

I really don't understand how the first one is Heartwarming in Hindsight. Like, Applejack says the opposite of what she means to say...okay?

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#5390: Apr 20th 2022 at 6:23:26 AM

the Hilarious entry is textbook Fan Myopia, and the Heartwarming entry doesn't explain what exactly is heartwarming about the situation. the Harsher one is the only one that might actually be valid.

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#5391: Apr 20th 2022 at 11:38:09 AM

I thought I'd run this by the thread before adding it to YMMV.Aladdin:

  • In his opening scene, Iago tells Jafar he's "gonna have a heart attack and die from not surprise!" His voice actor, Gilbert Gottfried, passed away from heart problems 30 years after the movie's release.

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#5392: Apr 20th 2022 at 12:11:55 PM

[up] I would say no. Heart problems sounds too broad, and the fact that it was decades after makesit seem as just actor mortality since he obviously was going to die eventually.

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#5393: Apr 20th 2022 at 12:27:51 PM

[up][up] There's actually a commented out note on the page specifically saying not to add it here.

Anyways, I found this on The Simpsons S 26 E 13 "Walking Big and Tall"

  • Harsher in Hindsight: This episode predicted the alarming rise of the "Body Positivity" Movement, which began as a counter against body-shaming obesity but eventually degraded into actively encouraging unhealthy lifestyle choices.

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#5394: Apr 20th 2022 at 12:49:03 PM

[up] I'm torn, TBH. On the one hand, I've seen some pretty nasty things from elements of the body positivity movement (like them getting angry at Adele for losing weight). On the other, it needs to give more explanation and could be worded a little more neutrally (the way it's written, it seems to be attacking the very idea of body positivity).

Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Apr 20th 2022 at 1:13:56 AM

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#5395: Apr 20th 2022 at 5:04:57 PM

[up][up] That feels like a ROCEJ violation as it pretty bluntly claims that an entire movement is encouraging unhealthy lifestyle choices.

[up][up][up][up] Gottfried died of "ventricular tachycardia"; I don't know if that's the same as a heart attack or not, but it's probably a stronger connection than pure actor mortality.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#5396: Apr 20th 2022 at 5:23:43 PM

Let me see if I can rewrite it to be a little less iffy:

  • Harsher in Hindsight: This episode features Homer joining a weight control group that encourages morbid obesity in its members. While the idea seemed ridiculous at the time, this part of the episode foreshadows extremist segments of the body positivity movement, which have become known for similarly dangerous actions.

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#5397: Apr 20th 2022 at 9:48:09 PM

[up]Better.

Trying to clean up FAM and came across this in Characters.The Amazing Race 6 and the tragic case of Hera McCloud - but is any of this necessary for her section on her appearance in The Amazing Race? I don't know anything about The Amazing Race, but does her misfortunes after TAR overshadow her appearances to the point it's necessary to discuss it all over TV Tropes?

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#5398: Apr 20th 2022 at 9:59:33 PM

Even ignoring the usual reality competition show problem, hindsight tropes shouldn't go on a character page anyway.

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MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#5399: Apr 26th 2022 at 3:57:46 PM

This was just added to Green Eggs and Ham (2019). (Note that the lack of formatting is their mistake, not mine.)

  • Harsher in Hindsight: The second season is this thanks to the recent Russian invasion of the Ukraine

Edited by MrMediaGuy2 on Apr 26th 2022 at 4:06:47 AM

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#5400: Apr 26th 2022 at 4:01:45 PM

Just... just cut it.

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