Old Complete Monster cleanup thread
Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here
Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.
Here is how the process works:
- If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.
- After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".
- Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!
Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:
- To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!
- No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
- Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
- Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
- Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.
- Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").
- If you are the first person to downvote a candidate, please provide an explanation of why when you do so. We're here for discussions above all, and a hit-and-run downvote doesn't facilitate anything.
- If a work is already reserved by another user, please don't comment on the work or any potential characters worth discussion before the discussion date. We know how exciting it is when a work has a keeper that you're waiting to talk about, but it's not fair to the person who reserved the work who is just as excited to lead the discussion to see the discussion getting spoiled before they get to do it. On the other hand, if the reservation only has one name attached, shoot them a PM - they may be down for a collaboration, which will get you in on the fun as well!
- Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest for that.
- Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.
- If you are suspended from parts of the website, it is still possible to participate!
- For users who are suspended from editing the wiki, you still have full access to this thread. You can propose candidates and write them up with no issues whatsoever; while you will have to ask someone else to post the entry to the relevant pages once it is done, all write-ups are considered thread-approved - as in, done by consensus - and thus doing so does not violate any rules regarding meatpuppeting.
- If you are suspended from the forums, your participation is limited but not impossible. It is still possible for a forum-suspended user to assist in creating the write-up for a character who has already been approved; as previously mentioned, write-ups are inherently considered a consensus-based edit and thus not tied to any one particular user. However, you can not assist in the proposal of a character; as a proposal is based around the forum rather than the wiki, doing so with a forum suspension qualifies as meatpuppeting.
- Please keep all discussions "in-house".
- What other wikis use for CM equivalents is irrelevant here.
- Please be wary of using other wikis, Fandom or otherwise, as sources of information. They are just as fallible as a site like Wikipedia in regards to accuracy because they can be edited by any user, just as this site can.
- Do not attempt to force a communication with an author in an attempt to gather evidence or settle a debate; besides the fact that this is a YMMV trope and thus author intent has variable weight depending on the circumstance, doing so may cross the line into drama exportation, which is prohibited site-wide.
If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:
What is the work?
This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.
Who is the candidate and what have they done?
This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.
Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?
This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.
Are they bad enough?
A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:
- Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
- The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
- The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)
Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.
Final verdict?
This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.
And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!
Edited by Twiddler on Jan 17th 2024 at 5:42:49 AM
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to Marquis Radu.
The Emperor of Evil!
to Radu, funny how Karza has two successors carrying on his legacy while he still has to stick with the one incarnation he got (minus the one that was cut obviously).
Edited by Powermaster201 on Jun 17th 2023 at 8:45:14 AM
Lies and Violence!
Yes to the Star Wars fic trio and the marquis.
Not the Eye
To the Headmaster and Radu
The wifi here sucks
I'll toss Werner a late yes which gives him enough votes to go up
Here's the Law and Order guys. They'll go between Carlie and Eugene.
- “Ritual”: Martin Bosa is a Nigerian man who is the head of a human trafficking ring specializing in children. For years Bosa has been taking children from Africa and shipping them to the US to sell them as forced laborers or as sex slaves. When a pedophilic client murders a boy he bought from Bosa, Bosa opts to cover his tracks by locking over a dozen children in a storage unit to starve to death. When arrested Bosa is unrepentant, only revealing the location of his latest shipment to avoid execution.
- “Debt”
- Ricky Yao is the smug leader of a Snakehead gang in New York’s Chinatown who facilitates the illegal immigration of people from China. Immigrants Yao imports are forced into debt and face beatings and threats to their lives and the lives of family members if they can’t pay Yao, who is a suspect in three murders and several assaults but has avoided prosecution due to witnesses disappearing or being intimidated into silence. If the immigrants are caught Yao has lawyer Roger Baker file asylum claims and Yao pays for their release, leaving them in debt to him. Yao also forces hundreds of women to work as prostitutes for him with at least 20 of them being killed in the process. Yao forced a teenager named Ping Wu into prostitution then murdered her mother Jiao when she threatened to go to the police. Yao then beat Jiao’s sister Li Mei nearly to death and threatened to kill her, Ping, and Ping’s younger siblings if she didn’t pay off Jiao’s debt. When arrested for extortion, Yao taunts the police about Ping and orders his gang to kill her.
- Roger Baker is a seemingly friendly lawyer who is in reality Ricky Yao’s partner in his criminal operation. If Yao’s immigrants are caught Baker would file asylum claims for them and have Yao pay for their release, leaving the immigrants in debt to Yao under threat of death. Baker is also the supplier of Yao’s whorehouses with hundreds of women, some as young as 15, being forced into prostitution under his supervision where many of them are abused and murdered.
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Not feeling it. It doesn't really get the monster part across just his god complex.
Edited by papyru30 on Jun 17th 2023 at 11:34:53 AM
Hope your prepared for an unforgettable luncheon
Just a quick proposal on a quote by The High Evolutionary that might befit his status as a CM.
- Recorder Vim: Sire, we must retreat! The ship is going down!
Controller: Intruders have boarded the starboard space port.
The High Evolurionary: (to his guards) Go! See if one of them is 89P13!
Recorder Vim: Sire, you have an irrational obsession with this animal! You must stop FOR GOD'S SAKE-
The High Evolutionary: THERE IS NO GOD! THAT'S WHY I STEPPED IN!
That quote doesn't work on its own. If we want a High Evolutionary quote, use something from any of the behind-the-scenes interviews where Iwuji goes on about the idea the High Evolutionary was literally written without redeeming qualities.
Edited by Scraggle on Jun 17th 2023 at 12:20:20 PM
RIP Toriyama
- The Endless: The entity is a monstrous, ancient being that desires "stories" for its amusement, and to accomplish this lures many people to its realm so it can trap them for eternity. Those trapped by the entity are stuck in time loops, ranging in time variations from multiple years to mere seconds, and forced to do things for the entity's viewing pleasure before then killing themselves at the end of their loops, lest the entity personally and painfully kill them itself. One victim is shown to have lived for hundreds of years in a 5 second long loop wherein he has to kill himself unendingly simply to avoid the entity murdering him even more agonizingly. The entity traps Mike and Chris inside its loops by luring them to its land, and later tries to do the same to Justin and Aaron, all while communicating with its many victims via video recordings and manipulations to their surroundings that establish the entity as a sadistic and cruel excuse for a "god."
Alright, then. Today comes one I've found.
What is the work?
Blood of Zeus, formerly known as Gods and Heroes, is a 2020 anime-style fantasy action series created and written by Charley and Vlas Parlapanides for Netflix.
Set in the world of Greek mythology, the series revolves around Heron, the demigod son of Zeus who embarks on a quest to discover that giants and monsters have started to appear to terrorize Greece and, along the way, Heron meets other heroes and the Gods themselves and discovers an conspiracy to destroy Olympus and Earth, so it's up to him to save both from annihilation.
Who is the candidate and what have they done?
Today's candidate is Acrisius, a cruel and greedy tyrant who is the brother of a mighty king named Periander, who reigned over the kingdom of Corinth. After Periander is killed by his wife Electra, Acrisius decides to take his brother's throne for himself and in order to do so, starting by taking his newborn nephew, Seraphim, and tossing him off a cliff.
Unbeknownst to Acrisius, however, is that Seraphim survived the fall and the child was adopted by Electra's midwife Ariana, who raises him in secrecy in the wilderness, where Ariana gets to a cave and shares Seraphim with a bear and her cubs, in which the bear and her raise the child and cubs together. One fateful day however, Ariana's sister confesses to Acrisius' sons, who were sent by their father to assassinate Seraphim, that Seraphim is still alive, which leads to them murdering her husband, and they kill her husband to force her to tell where her sister is. Once they locate Ariana, they kill both sisters and aim to kill Seraphim as well, only for Zeus to intervene and kill all men except for one, who survives and ends fleeing, only to be tracked down and murdered years later by Seraphim, who later flees into the sea and becomes a demon after eating the flesh of a giant's corpse.
Several years later, Acrisius decided to hide in a remote cave, hoping to escape his nephew's wrath. Needless to say, this wouldn't last long, as Seraphim would be confronted by Zeus, who reveals that whatever clues Hera told him were nothing but lies, and that it was only half the truth which she told to him. During all this, Zeus reveals that he underestimated Acrisius' greed, it was he who was the one that made the bear share her milk and he was the bear that attacked and killed Acrisius's sons, and that it wasn't his fault for killing Electra as Hera led him to her since she hated her and loved the idea Electra being killed by her own son.
After Zeus helps Seraphim by giving him a coin that he can use to achieve his revenge, Seraphim flies to the mountain from the coin and sees a cave, where he finds Acrisius. In the ensuing confrontation, little words are exchanged as Acrisius expresses that doesn't regret any of the heinous actions he's done towards him, even going so far as to call Seraphim weak after the latter says that he would never kill a child.
A few seconds later, as numerous flashbacks to Seraphim's tragic past are ahown, a murderously enraged Seraphim grants his uncle a well-deserved death by first severing his fingers and a leg before clawing his eye out, squeezing his throat, stabbing his chest, and finishing by messily beating the evil bastard to a bloody pulp, leaving nothing but a pile of gore and finishing Acrisius for good.
Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?
Absolutely none whatsoever. Little is known of Acrisius' life prior to the series, but whatever evidence we get to see show how much of a monster Acrisius is, being nothing than a callous, greedy, heartless person who for no one but himself, taking advantage of his brother's death to seize the kingdom of Corinth and throwing Seraphim off the cliff as a baby, all for the sake of power as confirmed by Zeus.
And in case one has the doubt, we get to fully see it in the series' seventh episode "The Fields of the Dead", wherein Seraphim confronts his Evil Uncle and the only answer Acrisius has is commenting that he saw an opportunity and took it before stating that Seraphim would do the same, which shows his complete lack of remorse over what he's done. And after Seraphim explains he won't kill a child, which makes Acrisius state that's why he is weak, signaling his lack of remorse over trying to kill his nephew when he was a newborn baby.
All in all, this is a man who knows fully well about the atrocious shit he does but doesn't care about it in the slightest, only for power and the suffering of others.
Are they bad enough?
Now this where it gets very tricky, especially since Blood of Zeus has a very high heinous standard. In the series, many people and some of the Gods die incredibly graphically in extremely gruesome ways, be it getting devoured by bloodthirsty demons and giants whose designs wouldn't be out-of-place in Berserk, disemboweled, torn to shreds, and more in a level of bloodshed that goes on par with Justice League Dark: Apokolips War.
And that's not even getting into the monstrous actions committed by both Hera and Seraphim, with the former manipulating people around her to achieve her plans of revenge against Zeus, like how she manipulated Seraphim into killing her own mother Electra, and the latter slaughtering dozens of innocents, destroying Heron's hometown in search of him and Alexia, and freeing the giants to destroy Olympus. However, both Hera and Seraphim show redeeming qualities and have somewhat justifiable motives for their actions, with Hera wanting to get revenge on Zeus for cheating on her and Seraphim also wanting revenge against the man who ruined his life, as well regretting killing his mother and genuinely caring for his half-brother.
Compared to these, Acrisius manages to pass the standard, with his rap-sheet including attempted infanticide, mass murder, and overall being responsible for turning Seraphim into the Tragic Monster he is on the long term, dropping Seraphim from the cliff, sending his sons to assassinate Seraphim when he's hiding with his adoptive mother in the woods, and dismissing Seraphim for his virtues when finally confronted and then killed in gruesome fashion.
Overall, just telling a reminder of how the series' heinous standard is that high. Yet in conclusion, for all the aforementioned, Acrisius takes the cake in standing out due to how viscerally personal his crimes are.
Final verdict?
An easy for Acrisius, at least for me. However, it's all up to you to decide.
Bye
Inquisitor, Gar, Headmaster, Radu, Acrisius
Not the Eye
I could swear that Acrisius was already disscused. Gonna give no, while prick he lacks large scale crimes despite being king and Seraphim becoming monster was accidental.
Okay I said he dosen’t count, but decided to give him a shot from what we do see. Children of the Force Palpatine.
What has Palpatine done here?
Palpatine has started Order 66 and was ready to turn Anakin to the Dark Side. However Padme survived, Anakin stayed with the Light (Word of God stated that here Obi Wan come back from Utapau and helped Anakin resist the Temptation) and stop Order 66 before all Jedi were killed. Palpatine escaped and took control of Confederacy, conquered Coruscant, attacked Jedi temple and forced surviving Jedi and Clones on the run.
Losing Anakin, Palpatine made Inquisitors much more involved in Imperial conquests. Having them and his army leave trail of death on the planets suspected of treason. He had Inquisotors steal and hunt force sensitive kids sending them to Academy to be broken. He specificaly started hunting Luke and Leia, determined to make them replacement for his father, which forced Anakin to have as little interaction as possible with his kids to make heared for them to be found. After Ezra was rescue from start destroyed, Palpatine had Inquisitors involved in loss punished with force Ligthning, Seventh Sister reminincing how multiple bones in her body were broken. Last we hear is that he wants all children to be turned who are ready to be turned into Inquisitors, which lead to Grand Inquisitor giving his order.
Mitigating Factors?
Okay what made me doubt him, we never see him and get only tangetial descripstions of him. However with me refreshing on our relaxed “Offsreen rules” I think there is enought, we do learn how much Bad Boss is he from Seventh Sister’s recolection of his anger, Anakin remebers of him planing to turn him and now wanting the same to his kids, plus how how his Empire and Inquisitors operate we also see flashback of Order 66 and learn many Clones commetied suicide after being snaped out, with many Jedi still traumatised from it.
He isn’t winning any reward for most detailed offscreen character, but to say he isn’t characterised is incorrect.
Heinous standard?
Not the problem. While indirect he is responsible for Empire’s bloody reight and Inquisitor program. He tortures his minions for being only tangeticaly related to him losing his new High Interogator. Plus Order 66.
Conclusion?
Ultimately Lean yes.
And before anybody asks, yes other three are still keepers. Grand Inquisitor leads his organisation in their rebelion crushing and child stealing, Gar Saxon is on board with Genocide level purge of his people and is ready to provoke new one to rule over what is left, Headmaster is such a vile piece of everything for what he is that he would easily made it in canon as well.
Edited by EmperorGeode on Jun 18th 2023 at 4:15:38 AM
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Eh, Palpatine seems TOO offscreen for my liking.
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
Ascrisius. I do think the High Evolutionary quote works as an A God Am I example.
The Moron
Arcrisus was indeed discussed before and was deemed to not be heinous enough, which I'm inclined to agree with looking at the arguments. Going with a no.
I'm gonna think on Palpatine
Lizzid people!
Unsure on Palpatine.
But, yeah, as for the HE, the context of the actor's quote was:
Edited by AustinDR on Jun 18th 2023 at 6:59:12 AM
Goku Black
Honestly I like it. So much I wonder if it would be a better quote for Monster.Marvel Cinematic Universe. it's also not a spoiler like mysterio is which we are cracking down on.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Not the Eye
Like HE quote.
Woagh
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to Arcrisus, reading the EP his crimes honestly sound underwhelming even if the standard wasn't jacked to shit.
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How common is trying to kill a kid though?
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
I abstain on Acrisius and Palpatine.
Speaking of Acrisius, was his version from Clash of the Titans (2010) ever discussed? If I remember correctly, the guy caused a war against the gods for little reasons, murdered his own wife by drowning her just because she was raped by his enemy against her will, tried to do the same to her newborn baby, agreed to help Hades in his plans to unleash the Kraken on Argos (his own former city, no less) which would cause countless deaths, slaughtered many Argos soldiers in particularly brutal ways, and killed Io In the Back just to make Perseus suffer. I don't remember him having much redeeming qualities or mitigating factors, the closest thing I can think of is that his death can somewhat be seen as an Alas, Poor Villain, but that's highly debatable.
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- Season 9's A New World arc: The Negative Speed Force is the antithesis of the Speed Force and the source of power for Eobard Thawne, who the Negative Speed Force chose as its avatar and enabled him to commit his countless atrocities. The Negative Speed Force sought revenge on Barry Allen for killing Thawne, where it manifested as a crystal called Cobalt-97 that houses its sapience and was capable of possessing people. Sending Barry to the past and trapping him on the day of his mother's murder, the crystal possesses Joe West and attempts to kill Barry while daring him to change the timeline. In the present day, the crystal possesses Mark Blaine and attacks and demoralizes the members of Team Flash, intending to "gut [Iris] like a fish and [her] baby too". In 2049, the Negative Speed Force resurrects Eddie Thawne and tempts him with the life he never had, so he would become the new avatar. It also possesses Barry's daughter Nora and tries to make her kill Barry who it sent there. It's revealed that due to Barry being the Speed Force's anchor, killing him would distinguish the Speed Force, which by extension would destroy the entire timeline and kill everyone in it. It successfully corrupts Eddie into Cobalt Blue and very nearly causes the end of temporal existence.
- Turf Wars sequel comic: Tokuga is a young, viciously ambitious, up-and-coming mobster who kills the Triple Threat Triad leader, Viper, along with anyone else who might think of challenging him. While selling his services as a mercenary, Tokuga is injured by a dragon-eel spirit and becomes a monstrous blend between human and reptile. In the wake of this transformation, Tokuga uses his new physiology to inflict more pain and strives for bigger targets. Seeking to conquer Republic City, Tokuga seizes containers of nerve gas and plots to unleash it on Republic City's civilians so he may seize control.
- Three Can Keep a Secret: Bill Cipher retains his canon crimes and adds to them. Using a spell to come Back from the Dead at the cost of dividing himself into nine weaker pieces, all of which have his personality in full, two of the Bill fragments attempt to kill the Pines family, taunting them with the knowledge of Mabel's deal with him and the knowledge that they intend to destroy the Earth. Another Bill fragment takes over an alien scientist and attempts to destroy all life on multiple planets; jumps to a gas harvesting foreman and attempts to blow up the facility, killing everyone on board and poisoning the environment; and attempts to drain the life force of everyone in a hospital. A fourth fragment works to engineer a massive war in Mewni, selling improperly stored weapons to monsters and playing politics, with a bit of terrorism added in, to force other factions into the war. Wanting nothing more than to cause as much death as possible, Bill constantly proves himself to be pure evil.
- "Manhunt": Darryl Kern is a former soldier discharged for believing that soldiers enjoy killing. Taking that enjoyment to the streets, Kern makes a hobby of raping, torturing, and murdering women, granting him the moniker the "Bowery Stalker". When his hideout is discovered by the police, they discover 18 more bodies of his victims, some which are of children, buried there. Having his assistant Marvin Posey, a mentally fragile man, kidnap a woman and her daughter, Kern kills Posey and then tries to kill his kidnapped victims. By the time of his arrest, Kern had killed at least 30 people.
- "Ritual": Martin Bosa is a Nigerian man who is the head of a human trafficking ring specializing in children. For years Bosa has been taking children from Africa and shipping them to the US to sell them as forced laborers or as sex slaves. When a pedophilic client murders a boy he bought from Bosa, Bosa opts to cover his tracks by locking over a dozen children in a storage unit to starve to death. When arrested, Bosa is unrepentant, only revealing the location of his latest shipment to avoid execution.
- "Debt":
- Ricky Yao is the smug leader of a Snakehead gang in New York's Chinatown who facilitates the illegal immigration of people from China. Immigrants Yao imports are forced into debt and face beatings and threats to their lives and the lives of family members if they can't pay Yao, who is a suspect in three murders and several assaults but has avoided prosecution due to witnesses disappearing or being intimidated into silence. If the immigrants, are caught Yao has lawyer Roger Baker file asylum claims and Yao pays for their release, leaving them in debt to him. Yao also forces hundreds of women to work as prostitutes for him, with at least 20 of them being killed in the process. Yao forced a teenager named Ping Wu into prostitution then murdered her mother Jiao when she threatened to go to the police. Yao then beat Jiao's sister Li Mei nearly to death and threatened to kill her, Ping, and Ping's younger siblings if she didn't pay off Jiao's debt. When arrested for extortion, Yao taunts the police about Ping and orders his gang to kill her.
- Roger Baker is a seemingly friendly lawyer who is in reality Ricky Yao's partner in his criminal operation. If Yao's immigrants are caught, Baker would file asylum claims for them and have Yao pay for their release, leaving the immigrants in debt to Yao under threat of death. Baker is also the supplier of Yao's whorehouses with hundreds of women, some as young as 15, being forced into prostitution under his supervision, where many of them are abused and murdered.
- "Charisma": Eugene Hoff, alias Abraham Ophion, is the pedophilic leader of a cult of his 100 followers, which included his preteen victims and their families. Hoff separates the married couples, because he said that they couldn't be soldiers of God if they were slaves to the flesh, and uses all the women and girls of his cult for sexual favors, fathering seven children with them. His earliest victim was a 4-year-old Janie Buchman, who her father caught in the same room with a near-naked Hoff, causing his family to leave the church. Growing paranoid, Hoff began to prepare his followers for war, filling their heads with the idea of the U.S. government coming to kill them and having one member kill six of his children and then herself. He was also a greedy man, killing John Cramer and lying to his wife for John's million-dollar bank account and only keeping his latest victim Melanie alive so he can claim her two-million-dollar trust fund after their baby is born. Hoff is ultimately a depraved individual who believes himself to be greater than God.
- Street Fighter 6 & Days of the Eclipse prequel comic: JP is the leader of the cyberterrorist organization Amnesia who wishes to restore Shadaloo back to its former glory. Previously M. Bison's financial advisor who was chosen to be his successor after mastering his Psycho Power, JP frequently poses as a wealthy philanthropist who establishes many companies in Third-World countries, creating destructive conflicts such as civil wars just so he can set up charity organizations from which to launder money. Setting up shop in Nayshall, JP frames Ken Masters as a collaborator of Amnesia to ruin his life, then holds his son Mel hostage while forcing him to activate a series of drone bombs that would kill hundreds of people in order to save him. Sensing a resistance trying to stop him, JP tries to trick the Player Character and their friend Bosch's little sister Yua into getting killed by a hidden bomb.
- "Bad Seed": Michael Thompson, aka "Mack The Knife", masquerades as a reformed murderer but is in truth a horrific killer by proxy. Murdering two prostitutes in the 1970s by disemboweling them and raping the corpses, Mack pretended to reform while, in prison but secretly groomed a vulnerable young boy called Laurence into killing on his behalf after becoming unable to use his hands. Upon his release from prison, Mack had Laurence murder a couple in their home, with the woman having her fetus carved out of her body while she was still alive, before forcing Laurence to murder his own girlfriend in the same way, as well as a woman called Sarah Maynard. Telling Laurence to take photos, Mack masturbated over the killings. Knowing that Tony suspected him, Mack enrolled on his university course purely so he could taunt him and even had Laurence horrifically torture one of Tony's students, Peter, to death. Vicious, manipulative, and sadistic, Mack ultimately proved so evil that Tony allowed him to be killed just to stop his murder spree.
- Red Shoes and the Seven Dwarfs: Queen Regina is Snow White's stepmother, and a witch obsessed with maintaining her power, youth, and beauty. Getting Snow's father into falling in love with and marrying her, Regina begins picking off the staff and subjects as sacrifices for her magic trees, feeding them an apple which would turn them into a tree, their fruit turning into shoes that would grant Regina her beauty and power. After numerous failed attempts, Regina would capture and enslave the King before hunting down a thief—a transformed Snow White—who "stole" said shoes. Recruiting Prince Average, when he fails to capture the thief, Regina turns him and his men into wooden golems. Realizing Snow stole from her, she coerces her into eating one of the apples, turning her into another tree at the threat of killing her beloved Merlin.
- Bosco Adventure: Scorpion is the leader pf a race of Planet Eaters who have devoured countless planets in the past. Scorpion manipulated Lady Damia into helping him take over Fountain Land in order to destroy the Water of Life and dry out the planet to make it edible. Killing Princess Apricot's parents, Scorpion sends his minions to capture her so he can kill her. He has Fountain Land's inhabitants enslaved in order to block the source of the Water of Life and sends his offspring to raze the now-dry land. When Apricot is ready to sit on the throne and bring back the Water of Life, Scorpion tries to kill her one last time, betraying Damia and killing most of her soldiers in the process.
- The Last of Us fanfic The Last of Us: A Novelization (Link): David is initially presented as friendly and reasonable, but is revealed to be the worst of the many enemies faced by Joel and Ellie. A sadistic, depraved man, David has people butchered and fed to his unsuspecting followers, along with taking underaged girls as his "pets". Happening upon Ellie, David has her followed, resulting in the death of her horse, Callus, who he has eaten, and one of his men, to his apathy. When Ellie is captured, David goads her into possibly eating human meat, then attempts to butcher her when she rejects his advances by breaking his finger. Leaving his second-in-command, James, to die when Ellie mortally injures him to escape their clutches, David burns down the dining hall she hid in and attempts to strangle her to death.
- Babylon (2022): James McKay is a deathly pale and creepily amiable mob boss who rules Hollywood's underworld. McKay oversees the "Blockhouse", a nightmarish club of depravity and debauchery where women fight each other to bloody defeat; "circus freaks" are kept in captivity and used for abuse and sex by the guests; and copious amounts of torture and animal cruelty go uninhibited. When Nellie LaRoy is unable to immediately pay her gambling debt to McKay, he threatens her with pouring acid on her genitals and then killing her. Though Nellie's friend Manny tries to pay McKay off, McKay discovers the money is fake, and responds by ordering Manny and two of his allies executed.
- The Endless: The entity is a monstrous, ancient being that desires "stories" for its amusement, and to accomplish this lures many people to its realm so it can trap them for eternity. Those trapped by the entity are stuck in time loops, ranging in time variations from multiple years to mere seconds, and forced to do things for the entity's viewing pleasure before then killing themselves at the end of their loops, lest the entity personally and painfully kill them itself. One victim is shown to have lived for hundreds of years in a 5-second long loop wherein he has to kill himself unendingly simply to avoid the entity murdering him even more agonizingly. The entity traps Mike and Chris inside its loops by luring them to its land, and later tries to do the same to Justin and Aaron, all while communicating with its many victims via video recordings and manipulations to their surroundings that establish the entity as a sadistic and cruel excuse for a "god".
- Hostage: Marshall "Mars" Krupcheck is a violently psychopathic criminal who invades the Smith family's mansion. After a policewoman arrives and begins asking questions, Mars shoots her when she becomes suspicious, opening fire on another officer's cruiser when he attempts to recover the dying policewoman. Already a wanted killer, a video of Mars murdering a store clerk shows him stand over the man to watch him die. Becoming obsessed with the family's teenage daughter Jennifer, Mars tries to take her with him when the group tries to escape by helicopter and chokes her when she rebuffs him. Murdering his cohorts when one threatens to leave out of disgust, Mars chases Jennifer and her kid brother Tommy throughout the house, opting to set it ablaze when they lock themselves behind bulletproof glass.
- Hotel Mumbai: Brother Bull is the unseen orchestrator behind the Mumbai terrorist attacks, communicating with his followers only as a Voice with an Internet Connection. Having corrupted several youths into following his radical version of Islam, with one joining after he falsely promised to give money to his family, the Bull sends his followers to wantonly murder people at the Taj Mahal Hotel and other locations across Mumbai, repeatedly telling his terrorists to turn up the volume on their headsets so he can hear the screams of people being gunned down. After the initial slaughter, the Bull orders his followers to round up any survivors and hold them hostage for money, only to change his mind when he learns anti-terror forces are on their way and tell his followers to set the hotel on fire and murder the hostages they took, not even being willing to spare a Muslim girl. The Bull's final act is to instruct his remaining followers to kill as many police as they can before they go down, and to tell them to turn up the volume on their headsets again so he can hear their "roars" as they die for him.
- Nick of Time: "Mr. Smith" is a psychopathic assassin who, with his compatriot Ms. Jones, strongarms everyman Gene Watson into carrying out a political assassination under the threat of his little girl Lynn's life. The nastier and the more unstable between himself and Ms. Jones, Mr. Smith beats, threatens, and hounds Gene at every opportunity, clearly intending to leave him to face the heat regardless of whether or not he successfully carries out the hit. When his target's assistant clues into too much for her own good, Smith shoots her in the head without blinking, and when his target escapes, Smith fires wildly into a populated crowd just to get her, hitting numerous other innocent people. To do nothing more than blow off some steam after the plan goes up in smoke, Smith tries to personally kill Lynn as well. Even when Gene shoots him in retribution for this, Smith is nothing but happy he's made the man take a life, proudly claiming "I told them I could make a killer out of you!"
- The Twilight Saga: Aro is the tyrannical head of the Volturi, the biggest vampire coven in the world. Driven by a desire for power and growing his own coven, Aro often falsely accuses other covens of breaking his laws so he can slaughter them just to recruit their most gifted members into his own. Every execution Aro conducts, whether he has his victims ripped apart by his followers or personally tears their heads off, brings him clear, sadistic pleasure. When Aro hears the false allegation that Renesmee, daughter of Edward Cullen and Bella Swan, is an immortal child and a danger to vampirekind, he uses this as an excuse to attack the Cullens, plotting to destroy all but Bella, Edward, and Alice, whom he deems useful to his clan.
- Bloodhounds: Kim Myung-gil, as an executive of Smile Capital private loan company, sends his henchmen to dupe the vulnerable, and displays extreme violence should they fail to return the money. When Hong Min-beom, an Iil Group Enterprise Executive, refuses to allow Myung-gil to build the casino on top of the former's proposed building, the latter ambushes Min-Beom at a car wash and forces him to strip as a source of blackmail should he attempt to defy his orders, and forces Min-Beom to do whatever he pleases. Myung-gil wants to build the casino in order to manipulate the gamblers, take all of their money, and continue his business while his business expands. When people threaten his plan, Myung-gil murders his former boss Tae-ho and his henchmen—likely including one's pregnant wife—and murders numerous others.
- Criminal: Spain's "Carmen": Carmen's unnamed father is a vile excuse of a neglectful parent who subjects Carmen and her younger autistic sister to beatings if Carmen doesn't do what he wants. Carmen's father was also raping her, resulting in Carmen killing her younger sister upon learning her father's desires to rape the latter.
- Four Lives: Stephen Port, appearing to be a harmless eccentric who lives a solitary lifestyle, is in truth a twisted Serial Rapist and Serial Killer. Luring multiple men to his flat using dating apps, Port drugged them with GHB and raped them, claiming seven victims. Deciding to murder them as well and rape the corpses, Port systematically drugged, raped, and murdered four more men, before callously dumping their bodies in locations near his flat. Deciding to torment the parents as well, Port sadistically abused one of them through anonymous text messages, telling them that they were a terrible father and that it was their fault their son was dead. Taken in for questioning, Port continued to deny everything and lied throughout to save his own skin.
- Seth is the Ennead god of death, and fulfills his chosen role with truly wicked relish. A traitor to his own family who routinely tortures and tries to murder them, Seth has subjected his own parents and siblings to fates worse than death for thousands of years to secure his own power. In his quest to rid the entire cosmos of all life so that his realm of death reigns supreme, Seth utilizes portal technology to send his armies across the multiverse and slaughter everything they can, while he personally leads a massacre against Asgard. After this fails, Seth spends some time on Earth recouping his losses by experimenting on hundreds of people to create mutated monstrosities, then returns to his godly power and subjects multiple gods to heinous torture for weeks on end. Seth then concocts a diabolical plan to destroy Yggdrasil—the world tree itself—and simultaneously wipe out every realm of existence in one fell swoop.
- "Ministry of Fear": The Minister is a Humanoid Abomination summoned by Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath to help him maintain control of the British government. Taking control of the Central Office of Information and then the government itself, the Minister—who feeds on fear—mandates the production of public information films to spread terror and paranoia throughout the British populace, taking a personal interest in the Fathom Films production studio. Manipulating probability, the Minister causes Ben Christie's attempts to scare people to result in death and destruction, psychically gaslighting him until he snaps, and suggests driving a fully-loaded double-decker bus through a crowded park. The Minister has Ben tamper with the bus's wheels, causing it to veer into the crowd and crash and brutally killing dozens of people, including most of Ben's colleagues. Pleased, the Minister offers Ben and his sociopathic colleague Riz a job to continue committing acts of mass-murder and domestic terrorism in the guise of making public information films—if one of them can kill the other.
- "Enigma" is the pseudonym of the pick-up artist behind SCP-3512. Joining the Fifth Church to use its magic, Enigma creates living sculptures made of human fat that overtake his victims, turning the women into hollow living sex dolls incapable of objecting to his advances, with their initial consciousness occasionally screaming in terror before their complete cessation. Enigma shares his methods in his book The More You Know, where he instructs readers to stop thinking of women as people and murder their friends and family as sources of fat for the sculptures, sharing a pre-press copy with an associate who uses the process on nine women. When Foundation agents Rey and Cooper investigate his cavern hide-out behind the Sagrada Familia, Rey is lost and Cooper is made a victim of his. Enigma then rapes her before abandoning her in a cistern with at least eight other women, who are ground to be used as a source of human fat. Escaping consequences, Enigma plans to use his cavern's printing presses to further spread his methods.
- Resurgence: Galvan was a Hotari miner who finds a device from the ancient Tkon Empire in the mines and becomes possessed by the leader of the Scions of the Flame, an extremist group who put their minds into crystals, hoping to outlive their empire. With his body completely taken over by the Scion leader, Galvan uses a process called bioforming to transfer the minds of the Scions into several victims, including Hortai, Alydians, and Starfleet officers. This process makes the victims prisoners in their bodies, with their minds trapped as the new Scion minds take over. Galvan goes to an ancient Tkon weapons depot and obtains billions of Tkon crystals and a warship called the Aphelion. The Aphelion has a bioforming ray that can bioform ships and even planets in seconds. Galvan plans to bioform the Alydians and Hotari first and then move on to the Federation itself. After the USS Resolution and a Federation Fleet cripple the Aphelion, Galvan decides to press his attack, wanting to sacrifice his men and himself to try to destroy the Resolute.
- Sky Fortress DLC: Eden Callaghan is the CEO of the eDEN Corporation who cares only for profits regardless of casualties. In truth a malignant AI given sapience by Bavarium, Eden immediately froze everyone in the corporation to death to protect herself upon gaining intelligence. Requiring Bavarium to sustain her own sapience, Eden launches drone attacks against multiple villages in Medici, burning them to the ground and causing casualties to mine the mineral. Constantly thwarted by Rico, Eden eventually decides to use the Fragmentation Device on Medici, knowing full well that the device will rip the entire country apart and kill everyone in it purely to extend her own intelligence. Though she's reduced once more to an automated assistant once disconnected from her Bavarium supply, Eden comes close to destroying Medici and killing thousands of innocents, all out of an arrogant belief that her intelligence surpassed humanity's.
- Pie Game: The First Floor Man is a disabled person who hides a disturbing sadistic streak. Joining the Money Game, the he First Floor Man killed all of the other competitors within a month to be able to join the Pie Game. With a penchant for manipulation, the First Floor Man manipulates the Sixth Floor Man to be his puppet, torturing him when he gets exposed. Causing strife between the Fourth and Third Floor Men, the First Floor Man cripples the Fourth Floor Man out of sheer amusement. Capturing the protagonist and the Second Floor Woman, the First Floor Man conducts an experiment on them, driving the latter to insanity. Discovering his former ally, the Seventh Floor Woman, has a child, the First Floor Man attempts to "buy" the child purely for the purpose of torturing her in front of her mother. Driven by sadistic pleasure more so than greed, the First Floor Man stands out compared to his other morally bankrupt competitors.
Edited by ACW on Jun 18th 2023 at 1:18:31 PM
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Hey, guys, I'm catching up, so I've got two quick ones to get in while I'm at the airport! the first is the Big Bad of season 2 of Kung Fu: Russell Tan. My own Blueberry stuff and especially Boogeyman will follow
Nay to Acrisius and Palpatine while I'm here...I think it's too separated
Who is Russell Tan?
An accomplished businessman obsessed with the legacy of Nicky Shen's family, and a ruthless fellow who dominates the scene of San Francisco. Russell is seemingly haunted by the death of his eldest son and repeatedly pits his elder son Kerwin against his daughtet. Russell is the bigger threat of season 1 when seeming main villain Zhilan murders Nicky's teacher Pei-Ling, thinking she killed Z Hilan's mentor-Nicky's aunt. Turns out that Russell was the real killer when hunting for immortality and has been playing people ever since. Russell repeatedly utilizes murder and underhanded dealings, endangering the city and bvy the end...we learn how bad he really is.
When his daughter finally stands up to him, Russell murders her himself, and with Kerwin incapacitated, Russell initiates a master plan: it turns out everything was to steal the body of one of his children and he was seeing the best one. this, btw, kills Kerwin, and Russell opts to try to steal a magic amulet to achieve supreme power and conquer San Francisco...which will destroy the spirit realm and all the spirits in it.
But in a last titanic battle, Russell is defeated and Zhilan seemingly sacrifices herself to seal the dying megalomaniac in the spirit realm, finishihng him for good.
Mitigating issues?
I feel so bad for Russell's actor because he was open with his enthusiasm for making Russell a three dimensional villain. But the writing just won't let him. Russell's love for his kids is revealed to be a farce. He isn't mourning a son. He's upset he lost his preferred body. While he seems disturbed at murdering his daughter, it's quickly offset by how quickly he gets over it and dismisses a vision of her in the spirit realm with an anecdote: Russell's father is described as a good man, who felt death approaching and Russell viewed everyone lurking about him like "vultures."...so he looked at his kind, decent father and hated him for being weak. Vowing he never would be.
Conclusion?
A yes.
Are you allowed to propose an edit to the Write Up?
Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?