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that's fair.
Edited by KingOfStickers on Dec 27th 2020 at 7:13:22 PM
Thanks for the post. I was going to make one eventually, so glad you spared me the trouble lol. Really the only reason it exists is because people want a Buffy page for everything.
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Makes sense, since the wiki did get started Buffistas.org.
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Shame then that the Buffy pages are in such bad shape. They've been on my radar for over a year but there's so many problems I've been procrastinating.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
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So I've put the examples of Surprisingly Lenient Censor on that page. Is there anything else worth saving?
In clearing out examples across the wiki, I found this amazing example at Videogame.D:
- In order to ensure that D was published in the form he wished, Kenji Eno resorted to actual fraud
. First, he developed the game with no story line, concealing the cutscenes from his own staff, then submitted a 'clean' version to the board for approval. He then deliberately submitted the master late, knowing that he would then have to deliver it by hand to the U.S. manufacturers. That gave him time to 'switch' the clean disc with the version he intended, bypassing the censors completely!note
Now THAT is Getting Crap Past the Radar.
And I gotta say, with the new rules and criteria, plus the increased emphasis on how things sneak past the censors, the trope page is a lot more interesting than it's been in years.
Edited by VampireBuddha on Dec 30th 2020 at 4:29:08 PM
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Let's go through all the work-specific Radar subpages, beginning with the sole Advertising subpage, Radar.M And Ms. I don't think these ads are aimed at a specific demographic.
- Attempting to aim at a wide range of demographics, the commercials for M&M's in the past decades feel very PG or almost PG-13 and this trope runs rampant.
- An Australian advert features Red and Yellow in a game of strip poker. When Yellow loses, he mentions quietly that he doesn't want to show his "peanut" in public.
- M&M's adverts have frequently gotten away with stripping and other sexual innuendos. Such as the one where a stagehand accidentally walks in on a naked Ms. Green in her trailer.
- There's also this gem involving Patrick Warburton.
Red: Aww, man. "Plain" is the worst name ever.Warburton: No, that would be "Dick".{Red is visibly taken aback.}
- The instances of phrases like "Eat me!" and "Bite me!"
- An ad campaign where Red and Yellow quit their jobs through a strongly worded letter to Brown. Among the things they want to do with their free time are "breaking down in public and going into rehab". The letter ends with "Go fondue yourself".
- The "Bare All" promotion and the sequences that follow, complete with scenes where Yellow covers his midsection. Then there's this advert.
- There's also the one with Glee cast member Naya Rivera. Red sings "I Would Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)" as he is subjected to things such as being baked into a cookie, and slathered with frosting. Then at the end, he is being bitten by Naya and two other hot girls, and he shouts, "It hurts but I kinda like it!"
- On one occasion, Green flips out at Dennis Miller for seemingly trying to imply that the rumors about her (i.e. that green M&M's are aphrodisiacs) were true.
- Speaking of Ms. Green, she sure liked working the polls during the Australian Election campaign◊.
- As noted on the main page, the M&M's Premium adverts play up Ms. Green's Ms. Fanservice role to a ridiculous degree, which is lampshaded by Red, Blue, and Yellow's reactions. One advert ends with them melting, while Ms. Green's performance in another makes the bulb on Blue's stagelight explode.
- A scenario promoting M&M's Ice Cream Treats shows Red and Yellow trapped in a frozen wasteland that is revealed to be the inside of a grocery store freezer. Yellow then notices his 'M' is much smaller than usual.
Yellow: Hey, what happened to my 'M'?Red: It's called "shrinkage".
- The Masterfoods "Wheredafungo" promotion features advice to insert fun into one's work, such as funny words in a business call.
Yellow: Our numbers indicate that sales are way up in Lake Titicaca.
- Ms. Brown's debut advert showed her annoyance with people assuming she's naked because her shell is brown. Cue Red walking in, declaring "So it's that kind of party!" and stripping off his shell while dancing to "Sexy and I Know It".
- "Devour" and how it plays out like a rape scene.
- A 2013 Super Bowl ad featured Red singing Meat Loaf's I Would do Anything for Love. The end of the ad featured him being licked by multiple women, accompanied by this gem of a line.
- This line of dialogue from the "Cookies and M&M's" commercial.
Female Voiceover: A little cookie. A little candy. A little naughty.
Edited by LaundryPizza03 on Dec 31st 2020 at 1:09:10 PM
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According to a rant I read on DethroningMoment.Advertising, M&M's ads are apparently not meant for kids, though they still market them on children's networks. So a lot of this might better fit Demographically Inappropriate Humor but only if they aired on a kids' network.
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As a general rule, those M&Ms ads are just Naked People are Funny.
As Mewtron states, some of them might qualify as DIH if you can dig up evidence that they aired at a time when children could see them.
And let's not forget that the M&Ms aren't humans. They are giant anthropomorphic candy-coated pieces of chocolate. Even if they get naked, they're featureless lumps of chocolate with no nipples or genitals.
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Does anyone else feel like characters getting nosebleeds shouldn't be mentioned in radar pages? By logic, shouldn't they not flying under it at all since it's acceptable and also not hidden at all? It's usually shocking to watch, yes, but still seemingly acceptable for modern day cartoons.
The only examples I can think of are OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes and Gravity Falls.
Edited by KingOfStickers on Jan 2nd 2021 at 2:48:45 PM
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But could you assess each example individually?
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Stickers: The nosebleed thing is weird. Nosebleeds are a thing that happens, either from being punched, or picking it too much, or in the case of my dad and me, it being summer. In the real world, they have nothing at all to do with sexual arousal, but for some reason they are associated with sex in anime. Using a nosebleed to indicate sexual arousal can be GCPTR, if the creator knows about the meme and uses it as a dog whistle to those who recognise it while knowing that the censor won't get the meaning, but such a scenario requires Word of God to be valid.
Laundry: Here we go.
- An Australian advert features Red and Yellow in a game of strip poker. When Yellow loses, he mentions quietly that he doesn't want to show his "peanut" in public.
- M&M's adverts have frequently gotten away with stripping and other sexual innuendos. Such as the one where a stagehand accidentally walks in on a naked Ms. Green in her trailer.
- The "Bare All" promotion and the sequences that follow, complete with scenes where Yellow covers his midsection. Then there's this advert.
- A scenario promoting M&M's Ice Cream Treats shows Red and Yellow trapped in a frozen wasteland that is revealed to be the inside of a grocery store freezer. Yellow then notices his 'M' is much smaller than usual.
Yellow: Hey, what happened to my 'M'?Red: It's called "shrinkage".
- Ms. Brown's debut advert showed her annoyance with people assuming she's naked because her shell is brown. Cue Red walking in, declaring "So it's that kind of party!" and stripping off his shell while dancing to "Sexy and I Know It".
- On one occasion, Green flips out at Dennis Miller for seemingly trying to imply that the rumors about her (i.e. that green M&M's are aphrodisiacs) were true.
- As noted on the main page, the M&M's Premium adverts play up Ms. Green's Ms. Fanservice role to a ridiculous degree, which is lampshaded by Red, Blue, and Yellow's reactions. One advert ends with them melting, while Ms. Green's performance in another makes the bulb on Blue's stagelight explode.
- The instances of phrases like "Eat me!" and "Bite me!"
- An ad campaign where Red and Yellow quit their jobs through a strongly worded letter to Brown. Among the things they want to do with their free time are "breaking down in public and going into rehab". The letter ends with "Go fondue yourself".
- There's also the one with Glee cast member Naya Rivera. Red sings "I Would Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)" as he is subjected to things such as being baked into a cookie, and slathered with frosting. Then at the end, he is being bitten by Naya and two other hot girls, and he shouts, "It hurts but I kinda like it!"
- A 2013 Super Bowl ad featured Red singing Meat Loaf's I Would do Anything for Love. The end of the ad featured him being licked by multiple women, accompanied by this gem of a line.
- "Devour" and how it plays out like a rape scene.
- This line of dialogue from the "Cookies and M&M's" commercial.
Female Voiceover: A little cookie. A little candy. A little naughty.
- There's also this gem involving Patrick Warburton.
Red: Aww, man. "Plain" is the worst name ever.Warburton: No, that would be "Dick".{Red is visibly taken aback.}
- The Masterfoods "Wheredafungo" promotion features advice to insert fun into one's work, such as funny words in a business call.
Yellow: Our numbers indicate that sales are way up in Lake Titicaca.
- Speaking of Ms. Green, she sure liked working the polls during the Australian Election campaign◊.
- Attempting to aim at a wide range of demographics, the commercials for M&M's in the past decades feel very PG or almost PG-13 and this trope runs rampant.
Also, is everybody OK with cutlisting Radar.Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
Edited by VampireBuddha on Jan 3rd 2021 at 12:33:16 PM
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Also, the "I would do anything for love" one is repeated twice.
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Okay, all examples except the Wheredafungo one (for which I haven't found a matching trope other than Inherently Funny Word) and the Australian polls one (Weblinks Are Not Examples; describe the video) have been moved elsewhere.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Radar/ReadyJetGo
A lot of these examples are either really, REALLY minor, or examples that happen to be total coincidences or mondegreens. (What else do you expect from a Radar page for a PBS Kids show of all things, tho?)
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Also, the image is terrible even by pre-TRS standards. Full page:
- Sometimes, Carrot and Celery's flirting can go past......what would be acceptable in a show like this. Their flirting is very Squicky. For example, in "How Come the Moon Changes Shape?", they sing a love duet together, and at one point their legs intertwined. In Sounds Abound, they somehow end up in a bucket together while Sean is trying to work on his sound experiment. They flirt, and their legs are on top of each other. Sean and Jet then proceed to leave the room in disgust.
- In "Mindy's Meteorite Stand", while the entire town gets caught up in the meteorite craze, Carrot and Celery try to dig for meteorites, but they fall in a hole together. They giggle once that happens, and only God knows what they did next...
- In "Date Night", Jet is looking at a slideshow of pictures from Carrot and Celery's first date. Jet is having a good time until he sees an image of Carrot and Celery about to kiss.
Jet: Whoa, okay! This is too much. That's enough, mom and dad! - In "How Come the Moon Changes Shape?", Mindy briefly punches Jet in the crotch for being disgusted at Carrot and Celery's duet.
- In one scene from "Detective Mindy", Mitchell sounds like he's saying "ass" instead of "ask".
- In "Kid-Kart Derby", Jet is explaining to Mitchell what "torque" is, and Mitchell pronounces it as "twerk".
- In "Uncle Zucchini Babysits", providing the page image, Jet, Sean, Sydney, Mindy, Moonbeam, and Uncle Zucchini end up forming a Big Ball of Violence while trying to grab Sunspot so they can give him a bath. The end results are....a bit odd, to say the least.
- In "Mindy's Mystery", when the kids are interviewing Carrot about the mystery smell, it comes off as if they are investigating for possession of illegal substances. Complete with the funny looks they give him as they leave, and the fact that Carrot was apparently cooking up a "sweet sauce".
- Carrot adds a banana peel to his sauce, but it explodes in his face, and white, sticky stuff ends up all over his face. Apparently, the PBS censors caught on to this, as this episode, along with its sister episode "Diggin' Earth", don't air much and are not available to stream online at all, and was replaced in the final season 1 volume on Amazon, with, of all episodes, "Mindy Turns Five", which is a season 2 episode. However, the episodes can be watched on a DVD called Jet's First Halloween, completely unedited.
- The animators seem to be a bit too fond of the characters' butts, and yes, this includes the children. During the "Just Add Water" song in "Back to Bortron 7", Celery's rear takes up the screen at on epoint, and during the "Neptune Kind of Day" number in "Sean's Neptune Tune", Sean briefly shakes his rear at the viewer.
- In "Satellite Selfie", Sunspot takes a picture of Mr. Peterson's butt. And Sunspot accidentally takes a picture of his own crotch. The butt picture even shows up again in "My Fair Jet". Were the censors asleep when approving this episode?!
- Mindy even has the crotch picture on her room's bulletin board as shown in "Mindy Turns Five".
- And then there's this Fan Disservice shot of Carrot's butt in "A Hammer and a Feather"
- In "Satellite Selfie", Sunspot takes a picture of Mr. Peterson's butt. And Sunspot accidentally takes a picture of his own crotch. The butt picture even shows up again in "My Fair Jet". Were the censors asleep when approving this episode?!
- The episode "Mindy in Space" shares its title with a pornographic comic. Don't look it up. Considering that this is a preschool show, it's probably just a coincidence.
- In "Back to Bortron 7", it is revealed that Bortronian buildings look very... phallic-shaped.
- When Zerk meets up with Jet, he peppers his dialogue with the Lord's name in vain, twice. This was not edited in later airings of the movie, and parent groups haven't caught on.... yet.
- Although, the closed captions for the movie spell it as "Oh my gosh!"
- This awkward line:
Carrot: And what's the deal with Earth hot dogs? They aren't necessarily hot...- At one point in the movie, Jet 2 wakes up Mindy at midnight and Mindy tries to make him put the hologram of the house back. Instead, Jet 2 projects several other holograms besides the house. At one point, Mindy climbs up on Jet 2, and Jet 2 projects another hologram. The hologram was not shown, but judging by Mindy's shocked expression and dramatic gasp, the hologram was most likely something not appropriate for kids to see.....
- When Zerk meets up with Jet, he peppers his dialogue with the Lord's name in vain, twice. This was not edited in later airings of the movie, and parent groups haven't caught on.... yet.
- In "So Many Moons", Mindy expresses concerns over getting a younger sibling, then we get these linesnote :
Jet: Hey, I know someone - or, I guess, something - that's got around 60 kids, and they all get along somehow.
- In "Space Junk", Uncle Zucchini unveils his BBJS. If it didn't stand for Big Bortronian Junk Sucker, only God knows what other, non-family-friendly things it could've stood for.
- Then again... Big Bortronian Junk Sucker is an innuendo in and of itself.
- In "Measure for Measure", Sunspot makes a seductive pose at the viewer while Sydney is telling the other kids how many "Sunspots" Neptune (the trampoline) is from the sun (Jet 2) in their scale model of the solar system. It doesn't help that the trampoline/Neptune comes after Cody/Uranus.
- In "That's One Gigantic Pumpkin, Jet Propulsion!", during the "Grow, Plant, Grow!" number, Sunspot is shown riding on an eggplant. Any internet-savvy viewer knows what the eggplant emoji is used to substitute.....
- In "Treasure Map", Mitchell reads Treasure Island, a book with alcoholism and killing. As such, that book is probably not ideal for a child as young as Mitchell to be reading. However, various sources say that this is a children's book, so it's probably just a case of Values Dissonance of what was acceptable for children to read back then versus now.
- In a literal example of Getting Crap Past the Radar, in "My Three Suns", Sean screams "Bathroom stop now!" while in the saucer. Of course, there are no bathrooms in the saucer or in space, so we can only assume that he went in his pants.
I was going to do the next Radar sub-subpage, Bomberman B Daman Bakugaiden, but... it's too small anyway.
Edited by LaundryPizza03 on Jan 3rd 2021 at 2:25:37 PM
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Oh, that page. I was eventually going to do a complete analysis of that page; I'll try to do it later today.
Edited by jandn2014 on Jan 3rd 2021 at 3:31:16 PM
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I remember someone getting banned for, among others, pumping up the Ready Jet Go! subpages to make the show seem more mature. I recognize their tuping style from when the Nightmare Fuel page came through the cleanup thread, so the whole page is probably worth a cut
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Vampire: I mean so in specifically non-adults cartoons/kids cartoons where a character is in a dangerous situation like from hitting something hard in the head, resulting in a nosebleed.
Edited by KingOfStickers on Jan 3rd 2021 at 9:10:32 AM
...you mean nosebleeds as the result of an actual injury to the nose? How on earth is that inappropriate?
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Someone who can't handle the sight of blood?
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Some censors are pretty strict about blood on kids' shows, but things like small cuts and nosebleeds usually aren't a big deal. The only eyebrow-raising thing is when shows use a nosebleed as a shorthand for sexual arousal but I can only think of one Western kids' show that does that and it's probably subtle enough not to be GCPTR.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
I recall The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy doing it once as well.
@Libraryseraph Oh god, a NIGHTMARE FUEL page? For the record nearly all of the junk on the RJG pages are done by one person only.
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I have no idea what the page image for the Ready Jet Go page is even supposed to resemble. Do they think it's an orgy because people are lying down? What?
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
There used to be a blog called Your Webcomic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad, which ripped into webcomics for which the authors did not care. We had a thread about it back when this forum was based on phpbb. I remember one particular entry on it savaged a webcomic, which was set in a school, about perverse endorsement of underage sex. One of the points the writer cited in support of this was that the schoolkids wore school uniforms.
Let that sink in. This individual read a webcomic, about schoolkids attending school, and concluded that they were wearing school uniforms as a weird sexual thing.
Some people are just incapable of seeing anything in media outside of a porn context. I've never seen Wakfu (but I intend to, some day), but it really sounds like that troper has succumbed to the same misjudgement.
A few posts up, ~zendle said they'd like to look at Radar.Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I'm pretty familiar with Buffy, so let's do that.
Per IMDB
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Buffy is aimed at teenagers, so DIH is unlikely to apply. As a rule of thumb, I am going to treat each episode as if it received the higher ratings so as to avoid errors.
- One of the earliest examples is in "The Witch" when Buffy looks inside a box containing a fertility statue meant for Joyce's gallery. (All she says is "Jeepers").
Just innuendo- In "The Puppet Show":
Sid: (to Willow) How about you and I do a little rehearsing on our own, honey? You know what they say: once you go wood, nothing's as good!
- Which has to be Hilarious in Hindsight
Just innuendo, and a HIH ZCE thrown in- "That's not where I dangle it...", leaving 'where' to Giles' and our imagination.
Just innuendo- Buffy gives Giles advice on how to ask Jenny Calendar out.
Buffy: Just say, I feel a thing, you feel a thing, so maybe we can 'have a thing'.
Just innuendo- Later....
Buffy: Just remember, 'I feel a thing, you feel a thing', but personalise it.
Giles: Personalise it?
Buffy: She's a techno pagan, right? Ask her to bless your laptop.
Just innuendo- More Giles and Jenny:
Jenny: You're just going to have to trust me, Rupert.
Giles: Alright. I place myself in your hands.
Jenny: Mmm, sounds like fun.
Giles: *big smile, incoherent stuttering*
Just a double entendre- In "Lie To Me":
Buffy: Ford wouldn't even give me the time of day.
Ford: Well, I was a manly sixth-grader. I couldn't bother with someone that young.
Buffy: It was terrible. I moped over you for months. Sitting in my room, listening to that Divinyls song "I Touch Myself." *everyone looks at her* Of course, I had no idea what it was about!
Just innuendo- In "The Dark Age", Willow, Xander, Cordelia and Ms. Calendar are filing into her classroom for Saturday school, and Buffy unexpectedly walks in the door behind Ms. Calendar. "All right guys, the first thing we're going to do is… Buffy!", to which Xander replies, "Huh? Did I fall asleep already?"
Just innuendo- Subversion in "Go Fish": Willow mentions that she and Xander "played doctor." Then it's revealed that Willow meant that she looked up diagnoses for Xander in a text book.
Willow: (to Buffy, after Xander said the way they "played doctor" was wrong) How did you play doctor?
Buffy: (evasively) I...never have.
Just innuendo. And I don't think GCPTR can be played with under the current definition.- More like getting Communism Past the Radar...After liberating a bunch of homeless from slave labor in "Anne ", Buffy is seen walking from the building holding a couple of oddly familiar melee weapons.
...Seriously?- "Helpless": after a rather... tense training session with Angel, a fidgety Buffy is with Giles revising the effects of crystals. At one point she twiddles a rather long and thin crystal, and when Giles asks her if she's alright she responds:
Buffy: I guess that — I just have some... energy to burn.
Last season, Buffy and Angel had sex on screen. Does this troper think that showing sex is fine but alluding to it is not?- Faith getting Xander to have sex with her in "The Zeppo".
Faith: You up for it?
Xander: Oh, I'm always up. Suddenly, I'm very "up". It's just that I've never been "up" with people.
Again, someone thinks that it's fine to show Xander and Faith having sex, complete with topless Faith, but it's not OK for them to allude to the sex they're about to have.- Fun with Vamp!Willow — in "Doppelgangland":
- When she's staked by parallel-Oz, she's saying "Oh f...". (Word of God says that she is supposed to be saying "Oh fine.".)
Just a curse cut short, but no actual cursing.- Walking into a cage holding a chained, naked Angel:
"Puppy's all quiet. Come on. Don't be a spoilsport...That's right, Puppy. Willow's gonna make you bark."
This scene is no more violent than is permitted by the various age ratings. It's also not remotely sexual; it's supposed to come across as unsettling.- And on her return later in the season:
Buffy: It was exactly you. Except for the part about you being a dominatrix, far as we know.
Willow: Yeah right, me and Oz playing Mistress of Pain games every night.
Giles frowns at the thought.
Xander: Anybody go to a scary visual place?
Buffy: Oh yeah.
Giles lifts his glasses.
Just innuendo.- "Enemies":
- Buffy and Angel after seeing a very erotic movie:
I don't like getting you worked up like that. We can't actually do any of those things. You'd lose your soul. Besides, I don't even own a kimono. Just don't like to rub your nose in it. *cringes* Suddenly wondering where that expression comes from...
Just innuendo- Same episode. Knowing that Angel lost his soul after a moment of true happiness, Faith tries hitting on him, only to be knocked back. Which leads to this exchange:
Mayor: "So you couldn't give him one moment of true happiness."
Faith: I was thinking more along the lines of a long weekend..."
Just innuendo- Angel's Batman Gambit in convincing Faith he's lost his soul and wants to join the Mayor to get information. When she has him pinned on the ground he comments on how much he enjoys her wriggling on top of him.
Just flirting- "Earshot":
- Buffy hears the thoughts of an admiring teenage boy. They're about as clean as you'd expect.
- Don't forget the thoughts of Xander. Hooboy, I feel his pain, there.
Yeah, so? Californian media back then was willing to acknowledge that teenagers know about sex and are interested in having it.- When Buffy is freaking out over what 'aspect of the demon' she might take on:
Willow: "Was it a boy demon?"
Magic sex changes are a common trope.-
"Prison's like high school but they don't give you noogies, they give you...."
Edgy, but still just innuendo.- Having busted Wesley on his dirty thoughts Buffy makes a subtle finger gesture indicating he has a small penis.
Just innuendo.- Angel feeding off of Buffy. More than slightly suggestive.
They've had sex. This is just innuendo.- Willow gives Buffy relationship advice. Oz has no objections.
Willow: Ooh, Scott Hope at eleven o'clock. He likes you. He wanted to ask you out last year, but you weren't ready then. But I think you're ready now, or at least in the state of pre-readiness to make conversation, or-or to do that thing with your mouth that boys like. Oh! I didn't mean the bad thing with your mouth, I meant that little half-smile thing that you... You're supposed to stop me when I do that.
Oz: I like when you do that.
Just innuendo- From "The Freshman":
Willow: "It's just, in high school, knowledge was pretty much frowned upon. You really had to work to learn anything. But here, the energy, the collective intelligence... It's like this force, this penetrating force, and I can just feel my mind opening up, you know, and letting this place just thrust into and — and spurt knowledge into... That sentence ended up in a different place than it started out in."
Just a double entendre- From "The Harsh Light Of Day":
Anya: (DING) Fabric softener.
What?- Harmony, who it's made pretty clear Spike mostly puts up with for sex, complains about him leaving her to go digging for the tomb that holds the Gem of Amarra:
"You love that tunnel more than me!"
She's talking about romance- "I think about two girls doing spells together, and I do a spell by myself."
Just innuendo- In "The Initiative", when Spike first encounters his Restraining Bolt. Does This Remind You of Anything??:
Spike: I don't understand. This sort of thing's never happened to me before.
Judt an epic double entendreWillow: Maybe you were nervous.
Spike: I felt all right when I started. Let's try again. (He tries, but he can't do it.)
Spike: Damn it!
Willow: Maybe you're trying too hard. Doesn't this happen to every vampire?
Spike: Not to me, it doesn't!
Willow: It's me, isn't it?
Spike: What are you talking about?
Willow: Well, you came looking for Buffy, then settled. You didn't want to bite me, I just happened to be around.
Spike: Piffle.
Willow: I know I'm not the kind of girl vamps like to sink their teeth into. It's always like, "Oh, you're like a sister to me," or, "Oh, you're such a good friend."
Spike: Don't be ridiculous. I'd bite you in a heartbeat.
Willow: Really?
Spike: Thought about it.
Willow: When?
Spike: Remember last year? You had on that fuzzy pink number with the lilac underneath. (Gives her a sexy look.)
Willow: I never would have guessed. You played the bloodlust kinda cool.
Spike: Mmmm. I hate being obvious. Being all fangy and 'Rrrr.' Takes the mystery out.
Willow: But if you could...
Spike: If I could, yeah.
Willow: You know, this doesn't make you any less terrifying.
Spike: Don't patronise me! (Paces around the room.) I'm only 126!
Willow: You're being too hard on yourself. Why don't we wait a half an hour and try again? (Makes a funny face.) Or... (Grabs a lamp and whacks him.)
- In "Something Blue" — before the love spell:
Buffy: "Oh make a move, please. I'm dying for a good (s)lay."
Troper intentionally alters dialogue to make it sound sexual.- The two-finger gesture Spike makes in "Hush" is understood to be quite rude in the United Kingdom — it's the British version of flipping someone off — but slipped under the U.S. network radar.
- It's considered rude enough that the UK airing of the show alters the credits; the scene of Spike's hand gesture is replaced with a different clip.
- Compare Angel, Season 5, episode "The Girl In Question" when an Italian demon makes the equivalent Italian chin-rub gesture.
So the censors did pick it up?OK, a couple of things. The double finger gesture isn't the British version of extending the middle finger - that gesture exists in Britain too, and is exactly as rude. Giving two fingers is a more offensive gesture, because you're using two fingers, not just one. But the double finger gesture is not considered obscene in America. Heck, I've seen a whole bunch of American YouTubers use it to simply represent the number 2, without any intention of causing offence.
- The gang communicating without their voices:
- When discussing how to kill the Gentlemen, Buffy makes a stabbing motion It's... suggestive.
{Surprisingly Lenient Censor- "What do they want?" Willow points towards her chest, meaning her heart. Xander misunderstands, and makes a rather obvious cupping motion with both hands, while mouthing "Boobies?"
Just innuendo- After Xander beats up Spike for mistakenly believing he had attacked Anya, Anya makes the classic gesture of making a circle with the fingers of one hand and thrusting a finger of the other hand through it. They exit quickly, stage right. To this day, Joss Whedon is unsure how that got past the censors.
- It didn't get past BBC2's censors - both of the above examples (as well as Spike's gesture) were cut from the Beeb's early evening airings (although all three remained intact on Sky).
Surprisingly Lenient Censor which was picked up by the BBC's radar- Before losing their voices, Xander thinks Spike wants to eat him.
Spike: Sure, you're just a yummy treat.
Xander: Course, I am. I'm moist and delicious.
Xander is comparing himself to food as a joke- Faith-in-Buffy's-body to Spike in "Who Are You?":
"I could ride you at a gallop until your legs buckled and your eyes rolled up. I've got muscles you've never even dreamed of. I could squeeze you 'til you pop like warm champagne and you'd beg me to hurt you just a little bit more".
- Which Spike hadn't forgotten. He brings it up with Faith three years later, after she talks about one guy she was with who liked her to dress up as a schoolgirl and use a whip on him. It's only then he finds out it wasn't Buffy.
Just innuendo- When Buffy-in-Faith's-body is trying to convince Giles of who she is:
Giles: All right. If you really are Buffy, you'll let me tie you up, without killing me, until we can work this out.
Buffy: Giles, Faith has stolen my body and for all I know she has taken it to Mexico by now. We don't have time for bondage fun.
I don't believe there are any specific rules against acknowledging the existence of BDSM.- Faith catches on about Willow and Tara pretty much immediately (and before any the others have), remarking, "So Willow's not driving stick anymore"
Just innuendo- Willow and Tara perform a spell together that, along with all the panting and sweating, seems to resemble something else entirely. But since homosexual scenes aren't as commonly accepted as heterosexual relationships, the writing team had to come up with creative ways to show their passion. Hence the orgasmic spell, or as Willow put it, "connecting with the Nether Realms."
Just a double entendre- In "The I In Team" when Tara offers Willow a dolls-eye crystal that belonged to her grandmother, but Willow refuses on the grounds that it's a valuable family heirloom. But after they spend the night "casting spells", Willow turns up at her dorm the following morning holding the crystal, implying that she accepted it as a love token. (If that's not enough for you, the episode has both Buffy and Willow returning to their empty dorm the morning after Buffy and Riley had sex for the first time, and the following episode has Willow and Tara talking about what happened last night in one of their more famous lesbian sex = spellcasting conversations).
Just a double entendre- In "New Moon Rising", we end the episode with a tender moment between Willow and Tara. Willow apologises for everything that happened and says she's going to start "making it up to [you] right now", and Tara blows out the candle.
Just innuendo- "The Yoko Factor":
Xander: Maybe that all changes when I'm off doin' sit-ups in Fort Dix!
Giles: (quite drunk) Fort Dix? [begins to giggle hysterically]
Just Heh Heh, You Said "X"- In "Buffy vs. Dracula", the girls discuss Dracula's "dark, penetrating eyes". Buffy decides to hold off on killing him until they have more information. Riley is suspicious.
Riley: You're not just saying that because of those "dark, penetrating" eyes of his . . . Are you?
Just innuendoBuffy: No! His eyes were — there were — there was NO penetration! Cross my heart.
- In "Real Me", Dawn's mentions telling her mom she wants Willow and Tara to teach her the stuff they do together "then she got quiet and told me to go to my room".
Just innuendo- In "Checkpoint", Spike taunts Buffy about her inability to keep a boyfriend:
Maybe your beauty's fading. Maybe slaying's aging you prematurely. Things aren't firm and high as they used to.
Spike is calling Buffy ugly. He does this because he's an asshole. In other news, Pope Francis admits he is Catholic.- A Mood Dissonance moment from "The Body":
Dawn: Uh, this one time in history, uh, she had this book called Annals of History, and she didn't know how to say the word "annals" so she kept saying-
Heh Heh, You Said "X"- Willow is feeling ill after eating too much.
Tara: Oh, baby, want me to rub your tummy? (to the others) She likes it when I ... (quietly) stop explaining things.
Just innuendo- "Intervention". There's no delicate way of putting this, Spike is enjoying a cigarette when the Buffybot pops up from below. There's absolutely no way to misinterpret what she was doing.
That's the intended reading. And we've seen multiple characters have sex on screen by this point.- Slightly darker is when Glory throws a tied up Spike on her bed, straddling him and digging a finger into his chest while he screams and struggles in pain.
Nothing here that violates the age ratings.- That time Spike tried to kill Drusilla for Buffy.
Spike: Don't mock this!
Buffy: Go mock yourself.
No cursing here.- "Bargaining Part 2". There is absolutely no uncertainty what the demon is talking about. Warning: it's disturbing.
Demon: Now let tell you something children. We're not gonna fight you. We're just gonna hold you down and enjoy ourselves for a few hours. You might even live through it. Except that certain of my boys have anatomical incompatibilities that tend to tear up little girls. So who wants to go first?
Edgy, but still just innuendo- From "Flooded", Dawn insists that she's old enough to look through the books on demons.
"That's a strange place for a horn..." Beat, Beat, Tara grins as Dawn gets it. "...it's not a horn."
- She then opens the book again for another peek.
Just innuendo.- "Life Serial":
"I need you to hold hands"
"With each other?"
"Well you know what homophobia really means... Stop touching my magic bone!"
Just innuendo- Buffy has brought a bucket of chicken parts for dinner:
Dawn: I'll take a drumstick.
Willow: I'm a breast girl myself. [beat] But then again you knew that.
Just innuendo- In "All The Way", we get another gem thanks to Anya's bluntness and Xander's pirate costume:
Anya: But you get to dress up and play games. Xander's gonna teach me a new one after work called Shiver Me Timbers. Ever heard of it?
[later]
Anya: How about you? Ever played?
Tara: Not really one for the timber.
Just innuendo- Same joke pops up in season 7:
Rona: Gotta go with the stake. It's classic. I like the feel of wood in my hand.
Kennedy: Lost me there.
Just a double entendre- "Once More, With Feeling" is full of them.
Spike: Just come to pump me for information?
Buffy: What else would I want to pump you for? [beat] I really just said that, didn't I?
Just innuendo- Xander parodies the "Seduce and Destroy" speech from misogynist-dream film Magnolia... while playing with donuts. "Respect the cruller! And tame the donut!"
Just innuendo- Spike sings "Rest in Peace":
"I can lay my body down but I can't find my sweet release"
Innuendo at most- Xander and Anya sing "I'll Never Tell"
"Warm in the night, when I'm right in her tight... embrace, tight embrace!"
"''You're the cutest of the Scoobies with your lips as red as rubies and your firm yet supple... tight embrace!"
Just innuendo- Best for last — Tara and Willow's love song, "Under Your Spell". In one part Tara is floating above the bed with Willow... down there... and then there's the lyrics:
"The moon to the tide/ I can feel you inside"
"Lost in ecstasy/ spread beneath my Willow tree/ you make me come-plete"
Just innuendo- Spike's line from the beginning of "Tabula Rasa".
Spike: We kissed! All Gone with the Wind like with the rising music and the rising... music.
Just innuendo- "Wrecked":
- Spike and Buffy are making out again after a night together, and Spike says the following:
"I knew the only thing better than killing a Slayer was fu--" [Buffy punches him before he finishes the sentence]
He doesn't actually say the fuck-word, so it's OK- Dawn: "It was like a meat party in my mouth! ... Okay, I'm just a kid, and even I know that sounds wrong."
Just a double entendre- After creepy magic drug dealer Rack "tastes" Willow, he says she tastes like strawberries. Beyond the usual Strawberry Shorthand, in certain parts of the US, a "strawberry" is drug culture slang for a woman who trades sexual services for drugs.
Probably AI. If intentional, it's just innuendo- When Buffy returns home from her tryst with Spike, she's limping and grimaces when she sits down. Considering they hadn't left much of a mark on each other until the sex happened, one can only guess the fighting isn't the only source of her soreness...
Spike is abusive. In other news, water has been found to be wet.- In "Gone":
- Buffy gasping whenever Spike puts his (off-screen) hand near her waist.
- Spike being in the middle of telling Buffy to leave, then cutting off abruptly, looking down and declaring "Hey, that's cheating!".
- Spike demonstrating his naked push-ups and Buffy is heard gasping.
Spike is the fourth man Buffy has had sex with, an she was visible every other time.- "Doublemeat Palace", starting with the name of the restaurant and eventually ending with a demon shaped like... Well, imagine an eight-foot-long chestburster with no arms and an even larger, rounder forehead, which spits thin streams of pale fluid (and was defeating by a lesbian cutting it off to save her helpless female friend from it, although I am [or was] doubtful that that was the intended Subtext). The fact that the "Buffy At Work" The Making Of documentary used a clip of Buffy watching a video of "the cow and chicken coming together for the first time" (the back of a television emitting frantic moos and clucks was all that was shown of that part of the worker orientation video) when a Buffy writer who worked for a video store was talking about pornography, especially with the Doublemeat mascot, implies that the doublemeat subtext was intentional. (But despite that, who doesn't want one of those hats, or a plush toy of the mascot?)
- And, just in case it wasn't obvious enough, see Willow describing the demon to Tara when they get back together in "Entropy".
Tara: Okay, wait, it was under her wig?
Willow: Well, it was this thing, it just came out from inside her head.
Tara: That's disgusting. What did it look like?
Willow: Well... let's put it this way. If I wasn't gay before...
Just innuendo- From "Flooded",
- In "As You Were", Buffy refuses to let Spike inside... the house
Spike: I hear you. I want you, you want me. I can't go inside, so maybe the time is right for you to... come outside.
Just innuendo, probably accidental- In "Older And Far Away" when Buffy's friend Sophie is listing things she can't eat, there's a break in the conversation and in the background music you can quite clearly hear the uncensored lyrics to Rilo Kiley's 'Pictures Of Success', the specific line being "Mexico can fucking wait."
I'd need to check the clip to be sure, but a single, vague (NO IT ISN'T CLEAR!) lyric in the background containing the word "fuck" can get in under the age ratings given.- In the same episode, Willow buys Buffy an electric messager for her birthday, describing it as a way for Buffy to get a bit of "instant gratification" after slaying. Considering that it's well established at this point that slaying tends to turn Slayers on, the implication is uh... probably a bit different than Willow realized.
- Driven home further when Buffy looks to Spike, and he raises a suggestive eyebrow.
Just innuendo- Spike's mad rambling in "Beneath You":
I wanted to kill you. I think they were dreams. So weak... you made me weak, thinking of you. Holding myself, spilling useless buckets of salt all over your.... ending.
- but I'm sure they meant tears...
- It also includes a heart-rending reference to Buffy using him while not seeing him as a person:
Hey, hey! No touching! Am I flesh? Am I flesh to you? Feed on flesh. My flesh. Nothing else. Not a spark. Oh, fine. Flesh, then. Solid through. Get it hard, service the girl. [unbuttons pants]
Just innuendo. Plus Spike has had sex with Buffy on screen.- On Principal Wood and Buffy's date in "First Date", Buffy calls the rum-soaked pear "the best thing I ever put in my mouth". And then Spike shows up standing right next to Buffy...
- This one was good enough that House ended up using it.
Just a double entendre- "Chosen" and the cookie analogy
Buffy: I'm cookie dough. I'm not done baking. I'm not finished becoming who ever the hell it is I'm gonna turn out to be. I make it through this, and the next thing, and the next thing, and maybe one day, I turn around and realize I'm ready. I'm cookies. And then, you know, if I want someone to eat — or enjoy — warm, delicious, cookie me, then that's fine. That'll be then. When I'm done.
Just innuendo, probably accidentalThis is where the show ended and the series continued as comics. The Comics Code was well defunct by that point, and I don't believe Dark Horse impose significant content restrictions on their writers.
- "I'm gonna sleep with you under my pillow once I'm done with you." One of several possible comments Faith makes upon finding a stake. What do you think she's gonna do with it? The comics deftly answer that question.
Just innuendo- Buffy and Spike barge into Xander's room unannounced and Xander protests that he could have been naked doing... naked things.
- D'Hoffyrn teleports into Buffy's bedroom, also unannounced, and Buffy protests that she could have been doing bedroom activities.
Just innuendo- Faith and Drusilla end up on opposites sides of a fight, and have the following exchange:
Drusilia: Spike always said there was no tastier treat than taking down a Slayer. - For context; Buffy and Spike had recently begun dating at that point in the continuity.
Just a double entendreFaith: I guess he'd know. Word on the street is he's taking Buffy down every night.
So by my count there are 0 valid Buffy examples. While we're at it, let's also do Angel. Angel, thankfully, doesn't have a dedicated Radar/ page, but there are a few radar examples here. Angel is aimed at a more mature audience, and so DIH is even less present.
Ratings as per IMDB
:
Yeah, apparently Angel was rated G in Quebec. That seems completely wrong; by my estimation, even given the RCQ's documented leniency
, it warrants at least a 13 on Quebec's apparently-defunct ratings system
. However, I can't find any other sources about this; can anybody confirm that Angel was rated G in Quebec?
As to the examples...
- Upon discovering that Cordelia has suddenly turned heavily pregnant, Angel instructs Wesley to take her for an ultrasound to see exactly what they're dealing with. Wes misunderstands this.
Angel: I want you to see what's inside her.
Wesley: I BEG YOUR PARDON?"
Just innuendo- Cordelia toys with the idea of becoming David Nabbit's wealthy mistress for a while. "I like David. It's such a— strong, masculine name. It just feels good in your mouth."
- May or may not be a writer snarking at the lead actor.
Innuendo at most.- Wesley provides several synonyms for "private investigator," including dick. Gunn tells him to never use that term again.
Heh Heh, You Said "X"- Season 4 also has Cordelia's quip in 'Spin the Bottle', upon hearing that teenage Wesley was "Head Boy" at academy.
"Wonder how you got that name."
Just innuendo- In the same episode, Fred shares her theory of aliens, and doing "whatever they wanted to [her] naked helpless body". Cue Wesley's wrist blade spontaneously extending.
Just innuendo- Gunn shifting uncomfortably in his seat after a kiss with Fred. His face is priceless.
Nothing objectionable here- In Waiting in the Wings, while Angel and Cordelia are trying to get out of a mystical room that's making them fool around:
Cordelia: Open the door!
Angel: Kinda hard.
Cordelia: Kinda noticed.
Just innuendo- And then when they finally get out:
Cordelia: Good thing it wears off right away, huh?
Angel: Yeah. (Takes off jacket and folds it in front of his pants)
Just innuendo- Pretty much every other thing Angelus says is this.
ZCE, and Angelus is an asshole. In other news, bears were observed defecating in the forest.Edited by VampireBuddha on Dec 26th 2020 at 12:23:54 PM
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