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That Man Is Dead in video games.

  • In Assassin's Creed I, when Altair is preparing to go on the final Jerusalem assassination, he apologizes to Malik for his actions in the past, which resulted in Malik losing his arm and his brother. Malik's response is to refuse to accept Altair's apology, and Altair stoically chooses to accept his rejection. Malik then points out that the Altair standing before him is not the same man who he was before, having grown wiser and more humble than the arrogant man he was before - and thus, he has nothing to apologize for.
  • Baldur's Gate
    • In Baldur's Gate II, Jon Irenicus gives a peculiarly sympathetic response to being called Joneleth. "Do not call me that. I lost all right to that name when the Seldarine stripped me of everything that was elven, as you well know."
    • In Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance II, after recovering from Amnesiac Dissonance and remembering his past as a terrorist, Ysuran tells his mentor, "Ysuran Aoundril is dead; I am simply 'Ysuran' now."
  • Batman: Arkham Knight has a side mission involving Knight Templar Azrael, who is being subconsciously controlled by the Order of St. Dumas. When Batman confronts him with his real name Michael Lane, he responds "Lane is dead. I am Azrael, knight to the Order of St. Dumas!" This is enforced if the player makes Azrael try (and fail, obviously) to kill Batman, but becomes averted if Azrael instead fights his programming and swears to bring the Order to justice.
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  • A variant is employed in Battle Realms, during the confrontation between Kenji and Zymeth in the Dragon campaign. Kenji's father was a king and Zymeth was said king's Evil Chancellor (until Zymeth framed Kenji for killing his father, forced him into exile, had the rest of the family killed and took over most of the kingdom).
    Zymeth: You've grown up. Where's the young pup I caught sulking behind the curtains in the Serpent's throne room?
    Kenji: Long gone. Where is my father's most trusted advisor?
    Zymeth: ...Also gone. Perhaps we've both grown up.
  • BioShock had a rather famous one from "Atlas", who, up until the death of Andrew Ryan, pretends to be your ally while subtly controlling your actions.
    Atlas: It's time to end this little masquerade. There ain't no "Atlas", kid. There never was...Name's Frank Fontaine.
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  • In BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Hakumen states that the name "Jin Kisaragi" means nothing to him now. In Calamity Trigger, one of his ending paths has him making sure that that name is dead by fighting him as a sign of his complete abandonment to his past.
  • In Blaze Union, Gulcasa finds his childhood friend Jenon's insistence on calling him by his fake name Garlot extremely upsetting and continually tries to make him stop, to little effect. A similar exchange occurs between Nessiah and Eater in another route, when Eater tries to call Nessiah by his original name "Aries"; Nessiah cuts him off, offended.
  • At the end of Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel!, after Jack is scarred by Lilith as he's absorbing the knowledge from the Vault, he launches into a terrifying, insane rant about how he's going to get vengeance on everyone who wronged him and will set the world on fire. At this point, Athena says that the "hero" who saved Elpis and willingly stayed behind to cover his employees' retreat was dead, replaced by the monster known as Handsome Jack, the Big Bad of Borderlands 2.
  • Both Dracula in Castlevania: Lords of Shadow and his vampiric offspring, Alucard in later games, will respond with this trope whenever addressed by their old human names.
    Dracula: Don't you dare call me that! EU SUNT DRACUL!
    Alucard: (to Dracula) Trevor died a long time ago father. I am Alucard.
  • Magus in Chrono Trigger. (though he just replies to "You're Janus" with "...")
    • Robo too.
      Atropos: Indeed. Mother remade me to eliminate humans more efficiently! Step back, Prometheus!
      Robo: My name is Robo.
    • And spectacularly and awesomely averted by Frog.
      Frog: My name is Glenn!
  • Devil May Cry 3: "Mary died a long time ago. My name is Lady."
  • Dragon Age:
    • When confronted in Dragon Age: Origins, Wynne will claim the abomination Uldred has gone mad. In response, he chuckles and says "Uldred? He is gone! I am Uldred and not Uldred. I am MORE than he was."
    • In Dragon Age II, Fenris has this reaction to being called "Leto" by his sister, stating that he considers the person he was before his lyrium tattoos were bestowed, (which wiped his memory), to be long dead. Fenris also experiences some Amnesiac Dissonance upon discovering that he fought to be chosen for the procedure, in exchange for his sister and mother's freedom from slavery.
  • In Dragon Quest XI, Erik's sister Mia doesn't like it when he calls her that after finding her in the gold palace. She's Gyldygga now, scion of Mordegon, and spreader of the Gold Fever.
  • Although he never utters the line in question, Archer from Fate/stay night takes this trope to a whole new level. He not only considers himself to have outgrown his past self to the degree that he's not the same person, he states that he doesn't have his past self's memories anymore, he wants to kill his past self to ensure said past self will never have to become him as well (and in the hope that it will cause a Temporal Paradox and erase him from existence — Archer also takes 'self-loathing' to a whole new level). So, "That man isn't dead... yet."
  • Greil in Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance. When the Black Knight refers to him as Gawain, he responds, "That was my name, once. but I... threw it away."
  • Most heroes in Freedom Force retain some ties to their original identity, but Tombstone completely refuses to be Nathan Graves, as is observed when he's introduced.
  • One ending in Guilty Gear XX has Venom try to call Faust "Dr. Baldhead". Before he can finish the name, Faust smacks him and declares, "That is not who I am any more."
    • Also, Sol Badguy despises his past identity as Frederick, the scientist who created the Gears, and calling him by his old name is a real good way to piss him off.
  • In Jay's Journey, this is apparently played straight: The heavily-disguised character of Shade has a number of flashbacks focusing on one Tezla Concerto. At one point, Atolla (who knew Tezla) makes the claim that Shade is Tezla, but Shade denies this and says that Tezla is dead. This is actually a subversion, however; in a hidden scene, it's revealed Tezla really is dead. Shade is Tezla's sister, Tanya.
  • In the Kingdom Hearts games, Squall Leonhart changed his name to Leon out of shame at not being able to prevent his home world from being overrun by The Heartless. Mildly lampshaded as Yuffie tends to keep using his real name.
    Yuffie: I think you might've overdone it, Squall!
    Leon: It's Leon.
    • Terra-Xehanort drops a similar line in the Final Episode of Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep:
      Terra's heart has been extinguished... smothered by the darkness within him!
  • In Kingdom of Loathing, Rene C. Corman, a one-time boss, stated, "There is no Bigg. There never was a Bigg."
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel has variation five, the "just a mask" variation, with Crow Armbrust - "...But at the end of the day, I'm C. That's the real deal. The Crow Armbrust you've known all this time... he isn't real. He never was."
  • The Legend of Zelda series: For the most part, in-game dialogue makes reference to Ganondorf when he is in his human form, and Ganon after touching the Triforce and becoming the Demon King. Interestingly, Ganondorf has only ever been shown using his human name, so it's possible that "Ganon" could just be a name his enemies made.
    • Subtle example in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild when the mysterious Old Man reveals his true identity. He says "I was Rhoam Bosphoramus Hyrule....the last leader of Hyrule" rather than "I am Rhoam Bosphoramus Hyrule, the former king of Hyrule," indicating that he feels so much shame about his role in Hyrule's doom that he doesn't like to acknowledge who or what he was when he was alive (though the subsequent text boxes still give "King Rhoam" as his name).
  • In the end of Lost Isle, the villagers go out looking for their hero Morvayn. When they ask the Big Bad what has become of him, this is his response:
    Morlach: Don't interrupt me! Morvayn is no more, there is only Morlach now.
    • Darkflamewolf even took this opportunity for a little laugh:
      Darkflamewolf: Don't interrupt me! I'm the mega-villian [sic] giving my evil monologue! You will listen to me!
  • Lunar Knights draws on this trope toward the end of Chapter 4. When Ernest recognizes Lucian as Sartana, his old war buddy, Lucian responds with one of these.
  • Jacob Taylor's loyalty mission in Mass Effect 2 has something close to the Danny Phantom example listed below. When Jacob learns what his missing father has been doing for the ten years he was presumed dead, he's so disgusted that he refuses to acknowledge him as the same man. No matter how you end the mission, he will tell Shepard "I've already mourned the man he used to be" in the aftermath.
    "Neutral" ending: "You were a better man dead. As far as I'm concerned, you still are."
  • Metal Gear Solid 4: "I am Raiden. Jack is no more." Or "Jack is dead." By the time in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, he eventually is changed back.
    • At the very end of the series, Solid Snake gives up his codename and starts going by David again.
    • Inversely, at the end of Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, Jack finally embraces his Face–Heel Turn when he wants people to refer to him as Big Boss from now on.
  • Used rather terrifyingly in Parasite Eve, where after opera actress Melissa Pierce is taken over by her mitochondria and mutates into the Big Bad, she calls herself Melissa one last time before correcting herself and declaring her name to now be Eve. The way it is worded heavily implies that Melissa was fighting against Eve, but failed and figuratively died as she was completely taken over.
    Melissa/Eve: I'm Melissa... No... I am... I'm... I am EVE!
  • The introduction to The Path of Thanatos states that when a man named Kale returned to the lands he was exiled from he'd been long dead. "In his place was Thanatos."
  • Near the end of Radiant Historia, Eruca asks the protagonist who he identifies as, since he was born Ernst, but has no memories of the time and now goes by Stocke. At this point both are valid for him, and the player can choose either; if they choose Stocke, he says that Ernst should rest in peace and the current crisis is Stocke's burden.
  • In Rosenkreuzstilette, Grolla's grandfather and mentor, Raimund Seyfarth, who had passed away four years prior to the game's storyline, was revived by Graf Sepperin as a Grim Reaper-like wraith and a guardian of his castle bridge. When your character reaches him at the end of Sepperin Stage 3 and recognizes his voice, he states that his name was the name he carried as a mortal but states that said name is of no use to him now.
  • Part of Rowdy Reiko's back story in Rumble Roses is that she had killed her former self Reiko Hinomoto.
  • The ending of Shadow the Hedgehog has the titular character declare this as he tosses away a photo of his past life into deep space. This is especially notable as the entire game was about his Quest for Identity.
    Goodbye forever, Shadow the Hedgehog.
  • It's the same name, but the first form of Skies of Arcadia's final boss says "The Ramirez you knew is already dead, Fina!" to the party right before going One-Winged Angel. In this case the two identities are Fina's kindhearted older-brother figure and Galcian's ruthless right-hand man.
  • Used tragically in Starcraft when Sarah Kerrigan becomes the Queen of Blades.
    James Raynor: Sarah, is that you?
    Kerrigan: It was.
  • Star Ocean: The Last Hope: When Edge challenges him, the Apostle of Creation shrieks "Faize is gone! Faize is nowhere! You will not address me by that weakling's name!"
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  • Super Paper Mario: "The man known as Blumiere died long ago. Now there is only Bleck!"
  • Lamia Loveless, in Super Robot Wars: Original Generation, either the OVA or OG Gaiden, while breaking free from the Bartoll for the first time: "I am... W17... no, I am...! Lamia Loveless...!!"
    • Variation: Sanger Zonvolt in Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden. First is "I am Sanger Zonvolt, The Sword Of Magus!!". But one Heel–Face Turn and the next time he says that, it becomes, "I am Sanger Zonvolt, The Sword That Cleaves Evil!!". So, That Title Is Dead.
  • Used in Tales of Vesperia in regards to Raven and his previous identity as Captain Schwann.
    Raven: Sorry, but you buried that poor schmuck alive yourself. I'm Raven. Pleased ta meet ya.
  • In the Golden Ending of Undertale, Asriel Dreemurr says something like this. You've spent most of the game thinking of them as Flowey, the soulless flower, but at that moment, they've temporarily recovered from their affliction. But because they act so differently, they want you to think of them as different people. Which is to say, for the moment, Flowey is dead, but soon, he'll come back, and Asriel will be dead again, this time permanently.
  • In Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, playing as a Malkavian allows you to ask Velvet Velour who 'Susan' was. After chewing you out for going inside her head, she states coldly that Susan was a weak woman who died.
    • You can also invoke it literally when attempting to convince Samantha (a friend from your living days) that you're not... you.
  • Jack from Wild ARMs 1 in regards to his old life as Garret, a knight of Artica. In fact, reminding him of this is a good way to piss him off.
  • In World of Warcraft, Bolvar Fordragon has words to this effect after donning the Helm of Domination and becoming the new Lich King. His voice even gains the Lich King's signature Power Echoes to emphasise the point.
    Tell them only that the Lich King is dead... and that Bolvar Fordragon died with him.
  • KOS-MOS in the last moments of Xenosaga, Episode 3: "I am not Mary. I am KOS-MOS!!"
  • X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse has both Beast and Angel saying this upon being brainwashed by Apocalypse.
  • In Yu-Gi-Oh! Reshef of Destruction, Sol Chevalsky claims this about how he used to be.
    My past means nothing to me. I am no longer Pegasus. I am Sol Chevalsky!


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