Subpages cleanup: Complete Monster

BTW, similar to how we separated Alternate Continuities and What If at the Marvel page, would anyone object to giving Elseworlds its own sub-heading at the Batman page? I'll do that tomorrow if nobody objects.

edited 4th Mar '18 2:45:54 PM by ACW

Demon King and Angel

Machine from 8MM for all intents and purposes seemed to have a normal childhood. He's just a man who does what he enjoys.

There's definitely others as well.

Does this quote work?

edited 4th Mar '18 2:55:18 PM by ChaoticQueen

Angel and the Demon King.

Jack Angel. Funnily enough, I wrote a story online that includes a villain with the exact same name. Didn't even know Behind Closed Doors existed and thought I was being original.

Also for Demon King of Demons

edited 4th Mar '18 3:57:20 PM by therealjackieboy

Yea to Angel but abstain on the Demon King

Also, @hegel, I don't mean to make you feel unwanted but can we please tone it back with these bizarre questions and observations, they're becoming highly distracting from the thread's purpose and we should be devoting time and energy to other things.

• Goku: Midnight Eye: Seemingly an upstanding businessman, Genji Hakuryu is really a ruthless Arms Dealer who uses a psychic woman to hypnotize any detectives trailing him into committing suicide. Eventually killing all seven detectives the police have trailing him, Hakuryu goes on to attempt the same hypnosis-induced suicide on Goku. Selling to a general a chemical weapon which could potentially kill hundreds of thousands, Hakuryu then turns around and sells another weapon to the enemy country of the general he had just does business with, not caring who dies as long as he profits.
• The Trickster, real name James Jesse, is a bloodthirsty terrorist with a flair for the dramatic and the personality of a deranged child. After a killing spree that landed him in prison, the Trickster is introduced by breaking free from prison with the help of his son Axel, who he manipulated and groomed into becoming as dangerous a psychopath as him. With his help, the Trickster takes Henry Allen hostage and tries to have him impaled with knives while also poisoning the guests at a party so he can blackmail them into giving him money, with one guest dying as a demonstration. During his second appearance, the Trickster uncaringly abandons Axel and teams up with Mark Mardon/Weather Wizard for a chance to kill the Flash. And to do so, he disguises himself as a mall Santa and distributes over a hundred gift-disguised bombs to children, and forces the Flash to let Mardon torture him to death on threat of detonating the bombs and killing the children and their families.
• Gear: Emperor Pago, the leader of the North Plate Cats, desires the Forbidden Mechanism to power up his Guardian, planning on using it to conquer the world and expand his already large kingdom. Aware of Big Tomato’s plan of bribing the president of Dogtown into declaring peace with him, Pago takes advantage of the situation by declaring war on Newtown in order to find the Forbidden Mechanism, happily preparing to slaughter multiple cats and insects. Finding out that Gear is inhabiting the Forbidden Mechanism, he sends one of his men to capture him, forcibly putting Gear into the Guardian’s engine to power it up, keeping him alive and in pain. Taking control of his new Mega-Guardian, he gleefully destroys Waffle and Chee’s Guardian forms, immediately attempting to kill Mr. Black and the Elder afterwards. When his destroyed Mega-Guardian is sinking into a pit to Hell, Pago escapes the wreck, planning on building another Mega-Guardian and starting over, leading Gordon to sacrifice his own life to kill him. Refusing to abide by his ancestors’ honorable morals, Pago’s presence turned an already dark story into an even darker one.
• Justice League of America: The bloodthirsty Commander Benn Blanx, from issues 71 and 144, is the Evil Counterpart and Arch-Enemy of J'onn J'onnz. Blanx restarts a war between two races of Martians and exiles J'onn, whom he later tracks to Earth to kill, murdering countless humans in the process. Becoming the planet's dictator, Blanx uses the powerful Blue Flame to set all of Mars ablaze, leaving the civilization in ruins and leading to J'onn returning to find his people on the verge of extinction. When J'onn demands an explanation for Blanx's cruelty, Blanx reveals a mining corporation offered to purchase the planet from Blanx, but he had to be "the last living Martian".
• Teen Titans: Trigon the Terrible, the Archnemesis Dad of Raven, is an interdimensional demonic overlord who reigns over an empire where countless souls are kept in horrible bondage. Slaughtering the very cult responsible for his birth, including his mother, Trigon would go on to brutally conquer his entire dimension. Trigon has sired many children across the centuries, destroying any who dare to oppose him. Seeking to expand his dominion to Earth, Trigon took the form of a handsome man and impregnated a woman named Arella, revealing his true form and taunting her afterwards. After his daughter Raven's birth, Trigon would make numerous attempts to subjugate her to his will. When she refused to join him, Trigon destroyed her home world, Azarath, before corrupting Raven's soul and launching a campaign of destruction on Earth, forcing Raven to do battle with her own friends. During his invasion of Earth, Trigon reduced the island of New York to a graveyard, fusing the bodies of four million inhabitants together as part of an ever-growing spire of writhing, tormented souls. Trigon ultimately intended to merge Earth with his own dimension, happily condemning billions of lives to annihilation. Willing to exterminate entire worlds to make an example, and with trillions of deaths to his name, Trigon is the most terrifying and wicked foe the Teen Titans have ever faced.
• The Flash: Gorilla Grodd is the tyrannical ruler of Gorilla City and one of Barry Allen's most monstrous foes. Taking control of Gorilla City by killing his father and consuming his brain, Grodd tries to exact this same fate upon the Flash in the hopes of gaining his powers, intending to use them to conquer the Earth. Seemingly defeated by the Flash, Grodd viciously re-takes control over Gorilla City, killing all the Elder gorillas except for one, whom he straps to a torturous mental device to allow him and his army to invade Central City. Trapped in the Speed Force by the Flash, Grodd later returns, empowered by the Speed Force's energy. Upon discovering that the apes have made peace with the humans, Grodd impales their new leader, Solovar, and slaughters dozens of humans and gorillas alike until they submit to his will. Grodd promptly sets up a brutal dictatorship, reducing the human population to slaves and killing anyone who even mildly questions his orders. Eventually growing bored of his victory, Grodd destroys Central City, reducing it to a burning wasteland. A merciless despot willing to kill both human and ape alike to serve his goals, Grodd was as much a savage beast inside as he was on the outside.
• Teen Titans: Trigon is a being born of celestial blasphemy who willingly absorbed the collected evils of a hundred galaxies contained within the Heart of Darkness to become a supremely powerful demonic overlord. To spread his evil, Trigon would pull women from various universes into his realm, rape them, and send them back to their universes to give birth to his demonic spawn, often leading to the women's death. Through these means, Trigon brings about the ruination of countless worlds as his brood destroy everything in their path. Conceiving a daughter, Raven, with a human woman named Arella, Trigon intends to corrupt her into becoming his heir by having her cut a swathe of terror throughout his realm; aside from her, Trigon disregards his other offspring, considering them disappointments. Attacking New York City, Trigon and his sons wreak havoc, and even possesses the Teen Titans into turning on each other, all as part of a ploy to ingratiate Raven into the Titans and allow her to conquer Earth in his name.
• The Golden Age: The Big Bad Duumvirate, Adolf Hitler and the Ultra-Humanite, aim to Take Over the World. During World War II, the Ultra-Humanite performed inhumane experiments on German prisoners to perfect his process to Body Surf, killing all the scientists who helped him, before placing his mind inside superhero Tex Thompson. Becoming an American senator, the Ultra-Humanite places Hitler's brain inside another superhero, Dynaman and the duo begin plotting to take over America and launch a war on all Communist countries. When exposed at a press conference, Hitler attacks, killing many civilians in his rampage, while ranting he will use his newfound power to conquer the planet with force.
• Planetary: Randall Dowling is the leader of The Four, an evil analogue of The Fantastic Four. Having made contact with another world, Dowling plans to assist it in conquering Earth in exchange for power. For decades, he has kept Earth's technology at its current level by withholding or suppressing discoveries that could eradicate disease—including the cure for cancer—and save countless lives. in addition, Dowling locates children with budding technological skill able to advance humanity. He has their families killed in "accidents", before tormenting and brainwashing the kids into using their talents to stifle humanity's growth, with bombs planted in them in case anyone tries to rescue them. Using the Red Scare as a threat, Dowling also creates "City Zero", where suspected "spies" are rounded up and subjected to inhuman experiments, kept alive in horrible agony for Dowling's purposes. To store his experiments and weapons, Dowling also wiped out all life on a planet, just to ensure it was freed for storage. Treating his fellow members of the Four as disposable as well, Dowling's only care is for his own ego, advancement and power, no matter how many worlds he sacrifices.
• Dark Asylum: Luther Wells earned the nickname "the Trasher" for killing 14 people near trash cans and dumpsters. After savagely dismembering his victims, the Trasher took their corpses to his lair in the sewers as souvenirs. After being shot when the police apprehend him, Wells is detained in an asylum until the police arrive. After killing the lead psychiatrist, the head of security and all the cops who were watching him, the Trasher goes after Dr. Maggie Belham and asylum inmate and janitor Quitz for the keys, planning to kill Quitz and make Maggie a Sex Slave. After Quitz swallows the keys the Trasher's been after, so hebeats him with a fire extinguisher and rips the key from his body. He then escapes the asylum, rigging an explosive to kill the Feds when they arrive, and goes to try and kill Maggie's daughter.
• Death Warmed Up: Dr. Archer Howell wants prestige from inventing a surgery to make people immortal, and brainwashes his colleague's son into murdering said colleague and his wife when he questions Howell's methods. Performing his abhorrent surgery on hundreds, the victims need routine maintenance from Howell to stay alive, and when one annoys him by complaining about his pain, Howell has him put down. His institution is a nightmarish place, with Howell allowing the maddened patients to run amok and murder his own staff.
• Tolik is General Hruschov's sadistic enforcer. Allowing his prized fighter, Andrei, to rape the handsome Billy, Tolik punishes escape attempts from Billy by allowing Andrei to repeatedly assault him and eventually allows another prisoner to beat Billy so badly he bleeds to death. Angered by Kyle's defiance, Tolik puts him in a cell with an inmate known for killing his cellmates. When Kyle shows promise as a fighter, Tolik tries to order him to kill another prisoner in the Sparka. After Kyle refuses to continue fighting, Tolik happily carries out Hruschov's orders to chain him up outside in the winter.
• The Man with the Iron Heart: After being kicked out of the German Navy, Reinhard Heydrich is hired by Heinrich Himmler to join the SS. After the appointment of Adolf Hitler as Chancellor of Germany, Heydrich is tasked with annihilating Hitler's enemies in the German political sphere. Having been made Governor of Bohemia-Moravia for his efficiency and competence, Heydrich begins a brutal campaign of war crimes to make his territory the first to exterminate its Jews, ordering the crimes filmed for his later enjoyment. After setting his methods up in the rest of Germany, thus kickstarting The Holocaust, Heydrich works to put down a rebellion against his governance, killing enough resistance fighters to fill up a mass grave and torturing many more.
• Robot Holocaust: The Dark One caused a nuclear holocaust, killing billions and destroying everywhere except New York City. Controlling the air, the Dark One suffocates any humans who disobey him and becomes enraged when he realizes a scientist has invented a device to allow for people to continue breathing. Capturing the scientist, the Dark One has him tortured and threatens his daughter, trying to learn how he can undo the effects of the device, eventually absorbing the scientist for his disobedience.
• Witchfinder General: Matthew Hopkins, the titular Witchfinder General goes from town to town with his subordinate, John Stearne, brutally torturing false confessions of witchcraft from townsfolk, leading to their executions and to Hopkins and Stearne getting paid. After forcing a priest into confessing by stabbing him with needles, Hopkins agree to spare him after the man's niece offers herself for his safety, although Hopkins is called away to another village and Stearne rapes her in his absence. Angered that someone else had sex with Sarah, Hopkins kills her uncle, the priest, along with two village women, and abandons Stearne when the two are confronted by soldiers for their crimes. Capturing Sarah and her fiancé, Richard Marshall, Hopkins tries to torture them to get another confession. Although they manage to kill Hopkins, his torture drives them both mad.
• The unnamed Doctor with the gold tooth created the homunculus Wrath by inserting Philosopher's Stones into the bodies of thirteen candidates, cackling when the process painfully killed the first twelve. Using the now-mindless bodies of the first dozen candidates, the Doctor unleashes them upon the heroes trying to stop Father from destroying Amestris. To force Mustang to open the Gate of Truth, the Doctor slits the throat of his Love Interest so she will bleed to death unless he opens it to save her. Knowing Father's plan would kill millions, the Doctor only strives to cause as much death as he can.
• Kamen Rider:
  • Kamen Rider Faiz (555) Seiden: Grotesque/Deformed Flowers: In this non-canon novel adaptation by Toshiki Inoue, Masato Kusaka/Kamen Rider Kaixa manages to be much more repugnant and heinous than he already was in the show. In the past, Kusaka was one of the "Ryusei Children", orphans raised to be able to successfully wear the drivers. Bullied by his peers, Kusaka had Mari to keep him company, but unbeknownst to her, Kusaka only saw her as a possession, rather than a real friend. When his classmates are attacked by an Orphnoch, Kusaka generalized the entire race as being monstrous abominations who deserve to be destroyed by him, even if there are good-hearted Orphnochs. Upon getting hold of the Kaixa Gear, Kusaka took the chance to try and kill all Orphnochs and keep Mari only to himself. Kusaka was responsible for the murder of Yuka, another bullying victim and a close friend to Kiba, driving him to hate the human race. After killing several innocent people, Kusaka rapes Mari, not caring if the assault had left her hopeless and depressed. Kiba is so disgusted by this that he personally rips off Kusaka's limbs as punishment for his crime. Later, Kusaka resurfaced once again to make Mari's life a living hell, but was ultimately stopped and killed by Takumi Inui. A calculating, antisocial bigot who saw others as mere objects for him to use in his genocidal quest, Kusaka served as a brutal example of how even the worst kinds of people can become Riders.
  • Kamen Rider OOO prequel novel, by Nobuhiro Mouri: The original Kamen Rider OOO and the Greater-Scope Villain of the TV series was an ancient king of a lost civilization who wanted power over anything else. He had three alchemists and Gara create five sentient creatures, the aforementioned Greeed, for the sole purpose of killing them off to reach his goal of becoming an immortal god. After the alchemists and Gara succeeded, he betrayed them and turned them into cell medals, with Gara still being conscious in this state. He then stole the core medals from the Greeed even though that would kill them over time. He used this power to take over a large portion of Europe and was well on the way to taking over the world; cloned himself to attack neighboring countries; burned down villages that opposed him; invaded enemy camps using subterfuge; and used earthquakes and tsunamis to wipe out the Spanish Armada. After Ankh betrays the other Greeed by working with him, he double-crosses Ankh and stabs him in the back for his Core Medals and causes all the Greeed to be sealed away just so he could have the medals for himself.
• True Blood: Lilith, the primordial vampiric "god" worshipped by the Sanquinestas, is the personification of the evils of vampirism, and stands out even in this series. Believing vampires to be above humans, who are nothing more than food, the Sanquinestas commit atrocities in Lilith's name to prevent any peace with humans, with Lilith directly influencing members of the Authority to her own ends. Under Lilith's influence, the Authority has massacred numerous people and committed terror attacks on Tru Blood factories, abducting and imprisoning numerous people to feed on in an effort to start a war. Lilith appears to members of the Authority convincing them they are to be her vessel, with Bill killing all of them before she possesses him. When Godric's spirit reaches out to Eric and Nora to warn them of Lilith's true nature, Lilith appears again and decapitates Godric. Lilith has Bill conduct experiments with fairy blood to further empower the vampires; it's revealed Lilith's previous attempt was when she raped and turned Mackyn Warlow into a vampire, turning him into the monster he is today and resulting in the massacre of his village and family. When Bill's experiments work and he's successful in saving captive vampires, Lilith sends her sirens to take Bill's life, now that he fulfilled his purpose. While Lilith claims to be above morality and other vampires, others who see her for what she is claim she's little more than a false god and even a devil figure, with Bill laying the blame on Lilith for the death and suffering in their world directly and indirectly with her religion and war.
• Wallander:
  • Film Series:
    • Alfred Hardeberg, the actual killer from The Man who Smiled, at first comes across as a friendly, philanthropic businessman who helps Wallander find the killer who murdered Sten Torstensson and his father. He hires two assassins who kill Sten and his father after a business deal that didn't go as he wanted, as well as blowing up different places in the process. He is able to hide his true colors for a big part of the story, but once he is revealed as the killer, some even deeper secrets are revealed. His latest project, with his daughter Kristina, is TLL, a way poor people can donate their organs to wealthy people. In order to test the project, he, along with his daughter, kill numerous children.
    • The aforementioned Kristina Hardeberg from the same work is as much a sociopath as the above. This person, who seemed somewhat strange even from the beginning, is the primary lead of TLL, and is technically more involved in child murdering, and is also equally as involved in hiring assassins. This person is shown killing a random man from her and Alfred's house for fun, before asking to kill Wallander as well. While younger than other villains, Kristina still stands out as a child murdering sociopath.
    • Heinrich Böhle, from "The Pyramid", is a criminal mastermind who is seeking to destroy drug dealer Yngve Holm's entire life after a drug deal gone wrong. Introduced during a flashback scene during Wallander's early police career, a gunshot can be heard inside an old man's house while Wallander is having a fun time with one of his best friends outside. Wallander hears this, and sees Böhle, who manages to escape the scene, killing Wallander's friend in the process. Twenty-five years later, Böhle meets Wallander again, but is even more sadistic and evil this time around. He is this time around introduced shooting an helicopter with two people in it for fun. After one of Yngve Holm's drug dealers accidentally causes an overdose, Böhle, scared that he might get caught by the police, targets Holm's family and friends. He starts out by kidnapping Yngve's sister, and taping her around a chair, he puts a heart rate monitor on her, so that if she tries escaping her heart rate will go up, and a bomb will explode, blowing up the entire house. Her sister comes and tries saving her, but the house blows up, killing them both. Böhle then meets with Yngve's right-hand Frank, and kills him as well. To complete his killing spree, he kidnaps Yngve's daughter who he puts a bomb on. He puts a heart rate monitor on himself this time so that if his heart rate goes below 50 or over 90, the bomb will explode. Despite murder being a very common aspect in the Wallander series, Böhle stands out as a psychopath who only wanted to destroy and kill for his own benefit.
  • Swedish TV Series:
    • Rolf Liljeberg, from "The Secret", at first seems like a really nice guy who is enjoying his retirement after a long career as a police officer. He helps the protagonists find the man who killed a boy named Johannes, the suspect being one of Rolf's friends Magnus. He manages to keep a really good façade, but his true colors are shown when Stefan remembers how he was heavily abused by Rolf as a child, and a flashback scene is shown where Stefan is running away from Rolf and gets his scar. Stefan goes home to Rolf, and constantly points his gun against Rolf and is willing to shoot him. Rolf laughs and wants Stefan to kill him, since he'll never get away with it. He also states that no one else has successfully tried getting away with similar things previously either. A picture can be seen of a young Stefan naked in Rolf's house. All of this is too much for Stefan to handle, so he commits suicide. It is also now revealed that Rolf is behind the murder of Johannes as well. In his last scene, he kills one of his friends for revealing to much information to the police and tries killing her child as well, but fails. Even in a series like Wallander, where all of the main antagonists have murdered at the very least one person, Rolf stands out as one of the few, if not the only, pedophile in the series.
    • Leonard Belker, from "The Leak", is a well-known mass murdering terrorist. The episode starts with one of Belker's henchmen shooting an innocent, random old man who was jogging, for fun. The next day, Belker launches a massive terrorist attack, injuring, if not killing, many people. Belker himself is shown a bit later in the movie after trainee Pontus got caught by Belker's henchmen. They trap Pontus in his own car, and Belker finally shows up. He sets the car on fire and leaves Pontus to slowly die, just barely failing to kill him. The next time Belker is shown on screen, he launches another massive terrorist attack in the city, injuring many people, while Belker smugly smiles while innocent people die and the police slowly eliminate every single one of his minions. The leaker, Sven, is shown to have been heavily blackmailed by Belker, and once he is supposed to have his money for his work as the leak, Belker only gives him half the money, and threatens to kill his wife Mette by putting a photo of the two in the bag where the money is in, and then aims with a laser gun on the photo from behind. Belker doesn't lie, and betrays Sven at the climax of the episode, where he shoots Mette through her spine, before getting away scot-free.
• Transformers: Robots in Disguise (dub only): Megatron is the leader of the Predacons, who arrived on Earth in search of the Autobot Weapon Fortress Maximus under the pretext of raiding Earth for its energy. Upon arrival, he kidnaps Doctor Kenneth Onishi and probes his mind to find the location of Fortress Maximus. After receiving knowledge of the Autobot Protoforms, Megatron corrupts their sparks in order to create his Decepticons. Although initially A Father to His Men to his minions if they prove themselves worthy of respect, he discards these qualities upon his rebirth as the Decepticon Galvatron—absorbing the energies of the Predacon Brothers against their will to power his new body immediately upon his transformation, and later reducing Scourge and the Decepticons to mindless drones for plotting to overthrow him with the use of Fortress Maximus. Galvatron's worst actions, however, came during the finale when, after surviving a battle with Fortress Maximus, he transforms into bat form and drains Fortress Maximus's energy to power himself. He then unleashes his bat swarm to brainwash human children with the goal of enslaving them and repeating the process from planet to planet until he has conquered the universe, threatening to harm the children if Omega Supreme or the Autobots intervene. When the Autobots flee into the Space Bridge, Galvatron sends the Decepticons to pursue with the intention of destroying both groups by collapsing the Space Bridge, not caring if any Predacon gets caught in the collapse, all so he could have the entire planet to himself.
• Jak II:
  • Kor, the leader of the Metal Heads, sought to destroy Haven City to obtain and consume the last Precursor Life Force. To this end, he disguised himself as a kindly old man to help La Résistance, while making deals with Baron Praxis for Eco in exchange for softening his attacks—which he then undermines by sending Jak to sabotage Praxis's Eco supply and having Kaeden attack Haven City's defensive systems. When the systems are finally disabled, Kor kidnaps the younger version of Jak and promises to tear the city apart to find the Precursor Egg and murder all its inhabitants. Said to be the one to have wiped out the Precursors, Kor was driven entirely by his lust for death, destruction and the devouring of the last Precursor.
  • The aforementioned Baron Praxis is the despotic ruler of Haven City, which he conquered by waging war to overthrow the good-hearted King Damas. Leading his people to poverty and suffering, Praxis's rule is so barbaric that even his own daughter attempts to betray him, which leads to him threatening to have her killed. Kidnapping civilians as part of his "Dark Warrior Program", Praxis has them infected with Dark Eco, creating mentally unstable Super Soldiers for his army. Ostensibly enacting his cruel ruling policies to keep his Haven City able to combat the Metal Heads, Praxis is actually supplying his "enemy" with Dark Eco to keep the war going and himself in power. Upon being fatally wounded, Praxis attempts to destroy all of Haven City—including his daughter—purely out of spite.

Kamen Rider Amazon

• Ten-Faced Demon Gorgos is the leader of Geddon and a brutal sadist with a taste for human blood—which gives him power—and giving ironic deaths to his own men. A subordinate to Ruler, Gorgos is introduced pouring incendiary blood over the Amazon rainforest, burning a tribe alive and wounding Daisuke Yamamoto. In his mission to defeat Daisuke and obtain his bracelet, Gorgos punishes those who dare to fail him, through such means as burning; consumption by vampire bats; and exposure to the sun. Gorgos makes sure to ruin Daisuke's life by killing people close to him, and laughing at their deaths. In one occasion, Gorgos discovered that Daisuke was a close friend to a little girl, and he had her father Eaten Alive by a giant snake. After kidnapping several students from an elementary school, Gorgos has them tied to the ceiling and tortured with hot gas. Growing bored of drinking men's blood, Gorgos uses his servants to try and capture young women, and later children, for him to drain their blood. Capturing a human criminal, Gorgos turns him into the Ant Beastman, praising him for his violence even after he had attacked his own allies. Before his ultimate defeat, Gorgos invaded a local university and slaughtered multiple people with acid.

Kamen Rider Faiz (555):

• Seiden: Grotesque/Deformed Flowers: In this non-canon novel adaptation by Toshiki Inoue, Masato Kusaka/Kamen Rider Kaixa manages to be much more repugnant and heinous than he already was in the show. In the past, Kusaka was one of the "Ryusei Children", orphans raised to be able to successfully wear the drivers. Bullied by his peers, Kusaka had Mari to keep him company, but unbeknownst to her, Kusaka only saw her as a possession, rather than a real friend. When his classmates are attacked by an Orphnoch, Kusaka generalized the entire race as being monstrous abominations who deserve to be destroyed by him, even if there are good-hearted Orphnochs. Upon getting hold of the Kaixa Gear, Kusaka took the chance to try and kill all Orphnochs and keep Mari only to himself. Kusaka was responsible for the murder of Yuka, another bullying victim and a close friend to Kiba, driving him to hate the human race. After killing several innocent people, Kusaka rapes Mari, not caring if the assault had left her hopeless and depressed. Kiba is so disgusted by this that he personally rips off Kusaka's limbs as punishment for his crime. Later, Kusaka resurfaced once again to make Mari's life a living hell, but was ultimately stopped and killed by Takumi Inui. A calculating, antisocial bigot who saw others as mere objects for him to use in his genocidal quest, Kusaka served as a brutal example of how even the worst kinds of people can become Riders.

edited 6th Mar '18 5:53:53 AM by ACW

@ACW Emperor Pago looks great, but the sentence needs to be "desires the Forbidden Mechanism to power up his Guardian, planning on using it to conquer the world".

Whoops. Fixed.

Thanks!

Angel and the Demon King.

Alright, so it's Oscar night, but I've got one last Xeno candidate... fairly quick one, but we look to have missed one from Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

What's the setting?

The latest entry in the Xeno franchise with another setting revamp from the first game like X before it, we move to the world of Alrest for this one... in a world where beings known as Blades and those who control them, their Drivers, make up the core cast of the setting, with our main protagonist Rex and the enigmatic Blade he bonds with, Pyra — or Mythra — driving the plot. Now, Blades are essentially living weapons bound to a Core Crystal, and there are also ways of making artificial Blades.... some of which like the Nopon, Tora, figures out how to do by literally building them up from the ground up like the adorable Poppi. Other individuals, however? Have much, much more sinister ways of doing this. Enter Dr. Castrofari.

Who is Castrofari? What has he done?

So, who is Castrofari? That's a question that remains unanswered for a while when the affinity quest for the Rare Blade Perun, "Eternal Spirit," where Castrofari serves as antagonist, is started up. What we do know from the start is that children from all over Alrest are being abducted, separating them from their families and taking them out of the countries they inhabit... many, many children. Castrofari is behind all of the kidnappings, paying mercenaries to drug and bring the children to his hideout in Mor Ardain and even teaming up with the terrorist organization Lindwurm to use their goons as muscle, which brings the heroes to his location to free the children kept there.

Castrofari's intention? Well, simply to put all of them through horrifying experimentation to augment them into artificial Blades and not stopping until the experiments succeed. Perun liberates the children, but Castrofari's there waiting for her, eager to see the power of a real Blade. Castrofari tries to get Perun to work for him while promising to let the kids go if she agrees, but Perun quickly picks up that Castrofari would just murder the children himself to prevent them from speaking up the moment she agrees... to which Castrofari laughs and calls her a sharp one, vowing to experiment on Perun until she's nothing more than a withered husk after he's killed the children and threatening to completely wipe out her memory. Eventually, Perun's continued defiance prompts him to tiredly order his minions to kill Perun and slaughter the children as well, only for the heroes to burst in and defeat Castrofari... intercepted in his escape and completely baffled as to how a "mere Blade" could defeat him, Perun resists the urge to strike the bastard dead and instead turns him over to the authorities, happily predicting Castrofari's getting at least fifty years for his atrocities.

Any mitigating factors?

None with Castrofari himself. What's his excuse? He was envious of Tora managing to make an artificial Blade and wanted to prove he could make the greatest Blade Alrest has ever seen. Why children? Because he is a sadistic asshole. The game goes out of its way to give Castrofari nothing even resembling a redeeming quality; he's just a giggling psychopath more than happy to experiment on and murder dozens of children because he wants attention.

Heinous standard? For his niche, resources, and maybe five minutes of screentime in a completely optional side quest? Castrofari more than stands out. He's not up to the level of Amalthus or Malos, obviously, or even Bana, but he barely even has a quarter of the room they have to act and still manages to define himself through his specifically horrible victim choice and complete lack of any redeeming qualities. Easily over any minor villain in the game, so for where he is, I think he passes.

Conclusion?

Keep.

Thoughts?

edited 4th Mar '18 8:26:56 PM by Scraggle

Castrofari is an easy keep

Castrofari.

to Castrofari (That is one of the hardest name to spell here)

Btw Scraggs.....is he going to be the last Xenoblade keeper for now?

Castrofari.

Castrofari

Absolute last Xeno one for now. I'm pretty sure unless we missed someone from Xenosaga — and I'm pretty sure I remember nobody at all counting there (Albedo is a damn fascinating villain though) — the franchise has been bled dry at this point and nobody else counts from the Xenoblade games.

edited 4th Mar '18 8:45:14 PM by Scraggle

Any thoughts on the quote I suggested?

Do any of you remember Alan Wake? and how amazing that game was? My candidate was created for the sole purpose of being the sickest, most repugnant antagonist that Alan had to face. Serial Killer, Card-Carrying Villain, Ax-Crazy, the recipe for an evil douchebag: Mr. Scratch, from the American Nightmare DLC.

Who is Mr. Scratch? Mr. Scratch, the so-called Herald of Darkness, is a being from the Dark Place who took the form of Alan Wake. Mr. Scratch is not as powerful or god-like as his "friends" from beneath the lake, he compensates this by acting more "human", and this is definately not a good thing. During the game, Mr. Scratch will possess numerous people with the Dark Presence and send them to commit general mayhem, but for most of the time, he will just stay inside his room, filming video diaries and murders for Alan to watch. The first one has Mr. Scratch with a man tied to a chair, he explains that unlike his good twin, he is not afraid to be the center of attention, before killing the guy "just for kicks", trying to contain his laughter while strangling him. The second has Mr. Scratch punching his next-door roomate to death for interrupting his speech. The third one, and my personal favorite, has Mr. Scratch dancing to "The Happy Song", by "Poets of the Fall", with a knife in one hand, and kicking a man he had tortured earlier. The fourth one has Mr. Scratch explaining how he had lured a woman to his room and is preparing to kill her, excittingly telling Alan to "Watch this!" moments before slitting her throat and mimicking her death sounds. He then watches TV with her dead body next to him like nothing had ever happened. The fifth one has Mr. Scratch giving Alan a "serial killer tutorial", saying how he deslikes using guns because "How are you supposed to connect with somebody with a bullet?". The sixth one has Mr. Scratch holding a portrait of Alice, Alan's wife, and explaining that soon she will be only his wife, telling Alan to not worry because he will not treat her like his victims, that is, seconds before he confesses that "Maybe i'll slip up and she spots something. Or maybe she just starts running her mouth. And then... i'll do it."

The seventh one has Mr. Scratch discussing about Barry, Alan's best friend, and deciding that he will kill him for being a "little parasite". The eighth one has Mr. Scratch explaining his origins and how the Cauldron Lake brought him to life to be an "improved" Alan Wake. The ninth and final one has Mr. Scratch finally revealing his master plan of bringing his more eldritch brethren to our world: "I do my best work in the dark. And there's so much darkness out there. It goes deep, and the things that live in it are vast. Big bastards! They don't mind getting a bit of elbow room. All that chaos and madness . It doesn't really do that much down there. It's like pouring a glass of water into the ocean, right? But up here... Yeah, you can really make an impact."

Heinous? Unlike the other creatures inhabiting the Dark Place, who are unable to fully comprehend humans and the real world, Mr. Scratch is an openly-malicious bastard who just likes to mess with humans for his own sick enjoyment. Getting some Nyarlathotep vibes?

Excuses? Mr. Scratch claims that his own existence is somewhat confusing to him, and how he tries to find his purpose in life? By killing people and being "better" than Alan in everything.

Conclusion? You decide.

edited 4th Mar '18 9:42:37 PM by TheMadCr0w

I can't quite remember why, but I think we disqualified him in the past for agency issues.

Lighty is correct, a quick search reveals that is indeed the reason he was cut. That said, Crow, do you have anything to refute the original cutting argument? I'm all ears if there's something to debate.

Worth a shot.

What's the work?

Maplestory is an MMO with multiple plotlines that depend on which class you are. A handful of these classes are the Nova, draconic humanoids from Grandis, a parallel world to the main dimension in the gamem and the Flora, the other world's equivalent of elves. Heliseum, the capital city, was attacked many years ago and taken under enemy rule by the commander of Gerald Darmoor, the arch enemy of the Nova race. The two main Nova classes, Angelic Buster and Kaiser, follow two young Nova training to reclaim Heliseum from the commander currently occupying the city, Magnus.

Who is Magnus?

Referred to as "Magnus the Betrayer", Magnus was a Nova that was exiled from Grandis due to violently abusing his abilities. He was recruited by Gerald Darmoor, the Transcendent of Life and a Flora prince attempting to recreate Grandis in his own image, in exchange for more power. Being granted what he asked for, Magnus lead an army into Heliseum, destroying its protective forcefield and slaughtering the inhabitants that did not manage to escape, including the royal family. During this time, he entered battle with the previous Kaiser, the champion of the Nova, who sacrifices himself to (unsuccessfully) stop Magnus, who would end up surviving and taking over Heliseum, as well as claiming Kaiser's sword and taking his abilities, leaving the rest of the Nova without their strongest warrior and protector for the following decades filled with ongoing attacks by Magnus' army. He would become a commander of the Black Mage; once he receives his share of power, he turns on his fellow teammate and fatally stabs him In the Back before returning to Grandis and remaining in Heliseum, trying to raze down the rest of the planet.

Migating Qualities

Despite everything stated, Magnus's motive is never outright stated in a single narrative. It's very easy to find textual evidence that he's a power hungry megalomaniac that just enjoys chaos, but it's not hard to believe that he does what he does For the Evulz when fragments of his actions are across multiple storylines.

Heinousness

He has sided with two different forces that wish to destroy the world, as well as possessing full intention to fight the Nova heroes, who are in their teens at best, and has killed or attempted to kill numerous people onscreen. While the other villains in the game have done their fair share of deeds, Magnus's crimes stand out due to the fact they have a prevalent lasting impact on the plot and affects nearly all of the Nova characters, directly or in spirit. He's reviled and feared by the entire Nova race, his coworkers hate him, and he willingly double crosses them once he's gotten what he wanted. He enjoys what he does, and it's very easy to see it.

Conclusion

Was reading his bio and thought to see if he qualified in any way.

I'll give ayes to Magnus there. Welcome aboard!

Before bed...have a proposal. One of my more difficult ones. MAJOR spoilers will follow.

What's the Work?

''The Limehouse Golem'; is a recent horror/mystery film. Billl Nighy stars as inspector John Kildare, investigating a series of hideous murders in Limehouse, London during Victorian times. The community is so shaken, they've taken to terming the thing a Golem out of legend. Kildre finds a lead when, on the night of the final Golem murder, the wealthy John Cree is supposedly poisoner by his wife Elizabeth, a music hall actress working alongside famous performer Dan Leno...and Kildare finds evidence of the Golem's true identity through a diary he discovers. The Golem had left it in a library and only four men were there that day, one being Cree himself. Kildare investigates, comparing handwriting samples of the men as he listens to Elizabeth, or "Lizzie's" tragic tale as she desperately begs Kildare to prove her innocence. Kildare relieves the Golem's monstrous crimes, always ending in the haunting "here we are again," which is also Leno's famous catchphrase at the music hall....

Only for, at the end, Kildare realizes the horrific truth....

Who is the Limehouse Golem?

Elizabeth "Lizzie" Cree. Lizzie grew up a poor girl on the docks with a religious fanatic of a mother. Lizzie was awed by fame and the passion of the stage, and would entertain the sailors by acting out scenes. Unfortunately, one sailor got a mite too...close to her, and Lizzie's mother abused and burnt her as a result...or so she says. The movie unfolds as Lizzie tells her story throughout, so I'll get to the crimes soon.

Lizzie managed to secure an acting career at the Music Hall...unfortunately, she wasn't as good as she thought or hoped and it didn't really took off. However, Lizzie saw another way to achieve the fame she craved, and it just so happened the complete lack of a conscience or remorse didn't hinder her. After a humiliation on stage after her rival gave her a line in Hebrew to greet the Jewish audiences that actually meant something along the lines of "go die", and Lizzie later performing an unfinished play to jeers and hisses that John had backed, Lizzie kicked off her spree by going to visit a prostitute, gutting the woman and gouging out her eyes to announce the birth of the Golem. Lizzie proceeded to hunt down a Jewish man, murdering him and severing his genitals posthumously out of anti-semitic spite and mockery, before murdering two more prostitutes, one via crucifixion. Lizzie continued her spree, the killings growing more violent and deranged until she attacked an entire family, killing the husband, and then cornering the wife and two young children in their room and butchering them after greeting them with a cheerful "here we are again!"

Things at Lizzie's home were also...tense. Despite having swung a marriage with the wealthy John Cree...a marriage she hated. It soon became loveless, and John began to have an affair with Aveline, Lizzie's rival at the music house and their maid...however, John soon knew something was dreadfully wrong and began to grow terrified of his wife....you see, people around Lizzie...started to die when they crossed her. A dwarf who copped a feel fell down a flight of stairs, her uncle who attempted to blackmail her ended up smothered...and John himself finally realized Lizzie was the Golem. Lizzie poisoned him. Lizzie proceeds to play the wounded little lamb in jail, winning Kildare's sympathy as he struggles to find the 'true' Golem, first believing it's John Cree....finally, though? Kildare learns her true plan: he's meant to discover the truth and reveal that Lizzie is the Golem, giving her fame throughout all London. Lizzie smugly awaits Kildare to stop her from being hanged to reveal the crime, but Kildare, knowing what she wishes, instead conceals the evidence and posthumously allows London to believe it was John Kree. Lizzie is led to the gallows, realizing her plan has failed and icily snarling at the hangman she is "more than a mere poisoner"...as the noose is fitted around her neck, she calls out "here we are again" one final time before she hangs. John is framed as the Golem, Lizzie posthumously awarded the fame of having ended the killer's rampage.

....oh, as a last 'fuck you?' Knowing Aveline would be holding the lead in a special play, Lizzie sabotaged the harness, meaning Aveline is hanged for REAL in front of an audience at the music hall. Kildare retires, the case having devastated him.

Heinousness?

Lizzie is the only real villain. Victorian London is not, is NOT a nice place. At all, but she's the worst by far. She has a boatload of victims, including two children, and kills in painful, brutally inventive ways.

Mitigating qualities?

Here's the complicated part. Lizzie tells Kildare how a sailor molested her as a child and how her furious mother burnt her inner thighs with a hot poker as a result. Mom died soon after, with the clear insinuation later that Lizzie killed her. Lizzie married John Cree, who raped her on the wedding night and treated her like shit, belittling her dreams of being a famed actress, abandoning her, cheating on her (even if she brought in Aveline specifically so she wouldn't have to sleep with John anymore)....you could say Lizzie has a genuinely hard life

The problem here, ultimately is that Unreliable Narrator is in full effect. Lizzie isn't a good stage actress, but she is a master actress in society. She acts the sweet, innocent lamb wrongfully accused and victimized by everyone to manipulate Kildare as she's manipulated so many others. It's highly, HIGHLY questionable if the events Lizzie describe happen or happen in the ways she describes them. We see flashbacks to the Golem murders and Lizzie is...gleefully sadistic, wantonly violent and savage as hell. When she confronts the murdered family, she strides right into the kids' room, soaked in their father's blood with a huge Slasher Smile, and yells "here we are again" before the flashback ends, indicting that everything we've seen of her is an act...furthermore, even if it's true...I'm reminded of Scraggle's argument for Erica "Mothergod" Pierce in "can I see Lizzie without the excuse?" and in the end, I have to say that yes I can. Lizzie is not an abused child lashing out like other serial killers who've been screwed up by childhood abuse. Lizzie murders for one purpose: fame. When she realizes her plan to expose herself as the Golem has failed and Kildare will let her hang, she's shown to grow sullen and mutter to the hangman how she's not just a poisoned, before dying completely unrepentant.. Everything she does is for her own enjoyment, to remove obstacles and to achieve the fame she utterly craves.

The other big thing is as more of the story gets revealed Lizzie's story as "I was ever so terrified of my husband, Mr. Kildare" falls apart. John was terrified of her, absolutely petrified and was manipulated by her from the get go, rendering Lizzie's testament of him suspect. Overall, the film's tactic is to present a sympathetic figure who you truly believe is wrongfully accused...only to sweep the rug from under you to realize you've been just as deceived by a total monster fame junkie as badly as Kildare himself. Lizzie is a sociopath and a liar, and even if she's not lying about her dreadful past, it doesn't justify or even explain her ultimate motives of fame via murder. Furthermore, she is needlessly-and I mean really needlessly- brutal and gruesome with her killings. All of it is subject to Gory Discretion Shot, but the details are made clear. The Golem's diary, which is revealed to be Lizzie's of course, also gleefully describes the killings and reveals a sadistic relish in the murders.

Conclusion?

A very difficult example for me, I must admit. Part of it is how well done the film is and how excellent the twist turns out to be. Ultimately, I have to say Lizzie counts. Her sympathetic backstory is ultimate the product of an Unreliable Narrator attempting to sell herself as a Sympathetic Murderer when Kildare eventually realizes she is anything but. She's a spiteful, vicious murderer who delights in her crimes and has no real justification before them but a lust for fame. The true Lizzie is the Limehouse Golem, and I have to say I think she keeps in the end.

edited 4th Mar '18 10:58:21 PM by Lightysnake