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To-do list:

  • Consensus was to broaden the trope to be about stereotypical Asian store owners in general, even if they aren't violently protective, as mentioned in the third paragraph of this post (referred to in the post as the "widespread [stereotype]" of "South/Southeast/Central Asian convenience store owner[s]"), and transplant examples of racist store owners to Profiling.

    Original post 
Note: This thread was proposed by The Mayor of Simpleton.

The problem: Asian Store-Owner is a trope about Asian store owners who are violently protective of their store. Per the description:

Oh, you know the Asian person owns the store. They care about the money in the till. If they did not own the place, you and your gun could just have it. They do, though, so they'll either blow your head off if you try anything, or force you to do the same to them. All while speaking in a ludicrous and hilarious accent.

I brought this to Trope Talk as well to confirm the definition, and indeed that's what it was deemed to be.

Unfortunately, the name is very vague, and does not describe the "violent" part of the trope well at all. As part of my project to reduce the backlog of Tropes Needing TRS (where this was listed), I decided to do a wick check.

Wick check: Link here, but here's the quick results:

  • 3/50 examples were correctly used, dealing with a violently protective Asian store owner, or 6%
  • 9/50 examples were about the stereotype of Asians being store owners, or 18%
  • 20/50 examples, as written, were just store owners who happened to be Asian, or 40%
  • 15/50 examples were zero-context, unclear, or other, or 30%, and
  • 3/50 examples were unclassifiable, or 6%

Analysis: Alright, so just 6% correct examples is pretty bad, and the large number of examples that, as written, were store owners who happen to be Asian, along with Zero-Context Examples, indicate that most of the usage isn't salvageable. However, 18% of the examples dealt with a specific stereotype that store owners tend to be Asian (like Apu from The Simpsons), and some examples dealt with Asian store owners who were rude, but not violent.

Possible solutions: So here's what I was thinking. I genuinely think the Asian Store Owner Stereotype might be tropable on its own, so if we can hash out the specifics of that trope, that's what this could be turned into. We could then just clean out the rest of the use, and TBH I think a specifically violently protective Asian store owner stereotype is too strict. So yeah, rework into Asian Store Owner Stereotype. If that isn't a valid concept, we could just disambiguate this trope or even cut it, since the correct use is so low.

What does everyone else think? Any other ideas or suggestions?

Wick check:

Here a wick check will be performed for Asian Store-Owner.

Why?: This trope is, per the description and Laconic, supposed to be about Asian store owners who are "violently protective of their store", to quote the Laconic. Or maybe it's about most store owners being Asian, since the description mentions that too. Check for both, along with "any Asian store owner".

Wicks checked: 50/50

Wick totals:

  • 3/50 examples were correctly used, dealing with a violently protective Asian store owner, or 6%
  • 9/50 examples were about the stereotype of Asians being store owners, or 18%
  • 20/50 examples, as written, were just store owners who happened to be Asian, or 40%
  • 15/50 examples were zero-context, unclear, or other, or 30%, and
  • 3/50 examples were unclassifiable, or 6%


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    Correct use (Asian store owner who is violently protective of store) (3/50) 
  1. Characters.Jackie Chan Adventures The Chan Clan: Very protective of his antiques, and has the skills to back it up. Seems to be correct—an Asian store owner who is willing to use violence to protect his store.
  2. Film.The Ladykillers 2004: The introduction to the General shows him, rather brutally, foiling a hold-up in his shop. Seems to be correct.
  3. VideoGame.Leisure Suit Larry 1 In The Land Of The Lounge Lizards: The store owner from Quiki Mart speaks with an Asian accent (stuff like "Lubber" instead of "Rubber") and if you try to shoplift from him, he will shoot you. Correct.

    Stereotype of Asians specifically being store owners (9/50) 
  1. YMMV.Jeff Foxworthy: In one skit, he asks the crowd if they have "Abduls" working in their 7-Elevens, and then wonders if 7-Elevens in the Middle East have American workers. Later on, he adds ableist humor to the pile with "it's like a midget using mouthwash; who would know?" References the stereotype of Asians being store owners specifically.
  2. Literature.Contes De La Rue Broca: One recurring character is Papa Saïd, an Arab grocer (a famous stereotype of a shopkeeper in France). His eldest daughter, Nadia, is a protagonist of the first story and his youngest son, Bachir, goes to save her from the witch. He also has two twin daughters, Rachida and Malika, who are involved with the Clever Little Pig. References the stereotype of Asians being store owners specifically..
  3. NationalStereotypes.Asia:
    • In most of Northern Europe, the convenience-store owner who would be Asian in an American or British production will be an immigrant Turk (usually, though "generic Middle East" is gaining traction). Impressive facial hair is optional, shouty voice, huge gestures and Flowery Insults are not. No mention of wanting to violently protect their store.
    • Jobwise South Asians come in two types. The successful and academic types are typically Doctor, Scientists, Lawyers sometimes classy business tycoons or Politicians. If they are on the lower end of the economic ladder, expect them to be the Asian Store-Owner or a taxi driver (sometimes other types of driver) or Resturant/cafe/food worker.
    • Asian Store-Owner: Asians will be owners of grocery stores. All three reference the stereotype of Asians being store owners.
  4. Trivia.The Office USS 1 E 2 Diversity Day: Some extra back-and-forth after Kelly slaps Michael, including Michael comparing his Asian Store-Owner imitation to "Don Rickles on acid", and Jim, noting Michael's forehead card, asking why Kelly slapped Martin Luther King Jr. Seems to be referencing the stereotype of an Asian store owner.
  5. Creator.The Capitol Steps: One skit had a character proclaim "If you do not stop making fun of Pakistani people, we will be forced to do something drastic. We will close every 7-Eleven in your country!!" Seems to be a reference to the stereotype.
  6. Characters.Pulp Fiction: This trope is discussed by him in the film's opening conversation; he laments about how knocking over convenience stores has become nearly impossible, since many such store owners don't speak enough English to understand "Open the fucking register!" Seems to be referring to the stereotype? Still misuse though, as violence isn't mentioned.
  7. TheArtifact.The Simpsons: Apu was created to be a stereotype of the ethnic store clerk, and in many respects, it was Fair for Its Day—Apu was a relatable, fleshed-out character with a realistic, down-to-earth backstory. This excerpt, and the entry surrounding it, discuss the stereotype, but not the trope.
  8. WebVideo.Where The Bears Are: The clerk at the Stockroom seems to be this... at first. It turns out that she is a Dominatrix who manhandles the bears and chides Nelson for falling for the Asian stereotype act. References the stereotype.
  9. Music.Anal Cunt: Asians Eat Pets: Asians are not spared from Putnam's wrath: one of their songs is titled "I Sold Your Dog to a Chinese Restaurant", while "You Own a Store" contains the line "Hide your dogs, hide your cats". References the stereotype.

    Any Asian store owner with no other implications (20/50) 
  1. Film.Bait 3 D: The supermarket owner is Chinese, but apparently second-generation or later since there's no accent. Just an Asian store owner with no other references.
  2. Series.Coronation Street: Not much was done to remedy this until well into The '90s. When the producers remedied this by having the Desai family take over the corner shop However they mostly failed to click with audiences or the rest of the cast and were soon replaced with their cousin Dev Alahan who has been with the show ever since. Later joined by the Nazirs, who run the community centre or work at the factory, bistro, or medical centre. Just Asians being store owners with no other implications.
  3. Series.Sam And Cat: Afish, the owner of the Handy Quick near the apartment, is a Middle Eastern man who's extremely self-obsessed. Just an Asian store owner with no other implications.
  4. Film.Four Brothers: The owner of the store where Evelyn was killed is Middle Eastern. The clerk who was killed was likely one of his relatives as well. Just an Asian store owner with no other implications.
  5. Literature.Cannery Row: Lee Chong, who operates the local grocery, and who stocks pretty much everything and anything in his store. Just an Asian store owner with no other implications.
  6. WesternAnimation.Purno De Purno: Dr. Ha Chiu, who owns a Chinese store that sells various potion-like liquids. Just an Asian store owner with no other implications.
  7. UsefulNotes.The War On Terror: The Boondocks episode "A Date with the Health Inspector" made one hell of an allusion to the Iraq War in the form of a convenience store robbery. Ed Wuncler III and Gin Rummy (White Gang Banger takes on George W. Bush and Donald Rumsfeld) take some beer called "Black Gold", and when the Arab store clerk (Saddam Hussein) tries to charge them, they accuse him of having a gun (Weapons of Mass Destruction). A cop named Frank (France) shows up, and Ed III levels a gun to him, shouting "Whose side you on?!" The clerk's coworkers fight back, leading to a two-hour shootout with more allusions to the events around the War than can be listed here. It ends with the Arab store owners arrested and Ed III and Rummy hailed as heroes. As written, just an Asian store owner with no other subtext.
  8. Series.Kims Convenience: Mr. Kim and Mrs. Kim are the Korean owners of the titular store, with Janet often helping out (although she's against the idea of inheriting the store from her father). Just Asian store owners.
  9. ChuckCunninghamSyndrome.Western Animation: Dr. Ha Chiu, an Asian guy who runs an Asian store selling various potion-like substances, disappeared after the third series. Pothole just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  10. WesternAnimation.How Murray Saved Christmas: The clerk at the convenience store, who has eight arms.
    Santa: What are you?
    Clerk: I'm Vishnu.
    Santa: Vishnu?
    Clerk: I Vishnu wouldn't shoot me. As written, just a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  11. TheMirrorShowsYourTrueSelf.Western Animation The Simpsons: In "Brick Like Me", LEGO Homer starts seeing the real Homer in reflective surfaces after having a vision of his reality, where he was bonding with Lisa over LEGO construction sets. At one point, he yells at his reflection on the front window of the LEGO world's Kwik-E-Mart, causing him to be Mistaken for Racist by LEGO Apu. As written, just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  12. YMMV.Friday Film: The Asian Store-Owner in the first film randomly rising from the counter at his "Black Owned" convenience store and never appearing again. Just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  13. Website.Springhole: In Tips for Writing and Maintaining a Horror Atmosphere, guest writer Alexis Feynman points out that a shop lady in Chinatown would have more important things to do than punishing obnoxious teenagers for being obnoxious. Just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  14. Series.The Sarah Silverman Program: Sarah once robbed one for batteries since she didn't have enough money to afford them. As written, just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  15. Series.People Just Do Nothing: Kurupt FM's associate and business partner, Chabuddy G, an illegal immigrant from Pakistan who makes a living from ripping people off and living beyond his means. Just a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  16. Film.It Could Happen To You: The deli Charlie and his partner frequent is run by a Korean husband and wife pair. Just store owners who happen to be Asian.
  17. Recap.Welcome To Paradise: Woody hires a Korean convenience store owner to follow Denzel around and make sure he doesn't steal anything. There seems to be an implication that the store owner is violently protective, but it isn't explicit enough to count IMO. As written, it's just an Asian store owner.
  18. Literature.Angels Flight: Bosch finds himself inside a convenience store owned by a Chinese man at the end, just after he's escaped from the rioters. (That exact same shopkeeper and store pop up again in later Connelly novel 9 Dragons.) As written, just a store owner who is Asian.
  19. VideoGame.Dust A Tale Of The Wired West: Mr. Help (yes, that's his name), who offers hints if the player gets stuck and who is, at least to begin with, rather rude to the Stranger. Just a store owner who is Asian, and not violently protective of their store.
  20. Series.Count Arthur Strong: Bulent, though he's Turkish, and he runs a cafe instead of a shop. Averted with that one Indian guy Michael meets in a newsagent's, who's only a customer. Just a store owner who is Asian.

    ZCEs, unclear, and other (15/50) 
  1. VideoGame.Kings Quest II Romancing The Stones: There's a merchant in town who seems to be this, but his tendency to slip into a cockney accent gives him away... Low context.
  2. WesternAnimation.The Proud Family: In "E-Z Jackster", Mr. Min, the owner of the record store, is a really angry guy who yells at Mega for not buying anything. He's furious when the titular piracy site puts his store out of business. While this is an angry Asian store owner, he is not shown to be violently protective of his store, and thus does not count.
  3. SpiritualAntithesis.Live Action Films: The Dutch film The Columnist is this to Falling Down. Both films are darkly comedic thrillers about an ordinary person who hits a Rage Breaking Point and goes on a violent vigilante rampage against what they see as a World Gone Mad, and are deeply satirical about modern society and its ills while ultimately revealing their respective Villain Protagonists to be a lot less righteous than they think they are. Falling Down's William Foster was a right-leaning, blue-collar Angry White Man who worked in the highly technical profession of engineering at a defense contractor before losing his job due to the end of the Cold War, and his targets, from an Asian Store-Owner to Gangbangers to a homeless Phony Veteran, represent the fears of conservative Middle America in the early '90s. Meanwhile, Femke Boot, the titular protagonist of The Columnist, is a left-leaning, white-collar woman who works in the highly social profession of journalism, pushed over the edge not by economic misery but by online harassment, and her targets are internet trolls and far-right conspiracy theorists who symbolize the fears of young liberals in the late 2010s. Also, while Foster only directly kills one person even as he builds up an increasingly outlandish arsenal of weapons, Femke is an outright Serial Killer who murders numerous people yet sticks to knives, garden shears, bathtubs, and other close-in weapons throughout. Little implication in the pothole—putting it here as a ZCE.
  4. Film.This Is England: He bans Shaun early on for continuing to read a magazine without paying despite a couple of warnings, and gets his Disproportionate Retribution later on. No implication of violence.
  5. Characters.Gilmore Girls Stars Hollow: Own the town antique shop. No context.
  6. Characters.Still Game: Indian variety. Commented-out ZCE.
  7. Characters.Power Rangers Megaforce: Indian, to be more specific. No context.
  8. DarthWiki.Four Oh Two: Hiroshi Shinitani, Holmes' martial artist friend, in "Discovery". No context.
  9. Film.Do The Right Thing: The Korean shop owner. He's able to fend off the angry black mob that torches the Italian pizzeria by claiming that he's "black too." This was inspired by a Real Life story mentioned in The Autobiography of Malcolm X. During the Harlem riot of 1935, a convenience store was spared looting and burning when the Asian owners hung a sign in the window saying that they were colored too. Not just an Asian store owner, but still isn't correct use nor does it fit any other category. Other.
  10. WesternAnimation.Mission Hill: George's dad, Mr. Bang No context.
  11. WesternAnimation.Tom And Jerry Kids: The Indian man running the 7 Million Convenience Store in "Galaxy Droopy". No context.
  12. WesternAnimation.Eight Crazy Nights: Mr. Chin, played by (Rob Schneider), fits a lot of the stereotypes; although he subverts Asian Rudeness just from the fact that the only time he acts angry is completely justified. (Davey dining and dashing). Beyond that he's just curt, not mean. Fits stereotypes, but not that all store owners are Asian. Also not violent. Misuse.
  13. Literature.Ordinary Time: Discussed mockingly by Sher’s father, when the Duke enlists him in a spot of intelligence work:
    “You were, as I recall, a spice and tea merchant, an East India Provisions wholesaler who, had y’ removed t’ Town, should have been the glory of a restored Mincin’ Lane and an ornament of the Worshipful Company of Grocers.”
    “No, Charles, I’m simply the British Asian who runs the corner shop. Of course you recall correctly: among the interests in which our holding company invested were firms which were considerable importers of spices and of tea. As you perfectly well know, and, as I expect, of which you have all our financials going back a decade. It’s allowed my brother-in-law note  to keep his pomp and state.” Unclear if it's discussing the stereotype or just someone who is an Asian store owner.
  14. WesternAnimation.Bro Town: note  No context, commented out.
  15. VideoGame.The Curse Of The Were Rabbit: Mr. Caliche. No context, commented out.

    Unclassifiable (3/50) 
  1. Laconic.Asian Store Owner The Laconic.
  2. Asian Rudeness: Can also overlap with Asian Store-Owner as well as with Arrogant Kung-Fu Guy, or (in Japanese media) Bokukko or even The Idiot from Osaka. "See also" link in description.
  3. Pantheon.Businesses And Corporations Pantheon.

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#1: Mar 21st 2023 at 10:17:28 AM

To-do list:

  • Consensus was to broaden the trope to be about stereotypical Asian store owners in general, even if they aren't violently protective, as mentioned in the third paragraph of this post (referred to in the post as the "widespread [stereotype]" of "South/Southeast/Central Asian convenience store owner[s]"), and transplant examples of racist store owners to Profiling.

    Original post 
Note: This thread was proposed by The Mayor of Simpleton.

The problem: Asian Store-Owner is a trope about Asian store owners who are violently protective of their store. Per the description:

Oh, you know the Asian person owns the store. They care about the money in the till. If they did not own the place, you and your gun could just have it. They do, though, so they'll either blow your head off if you try anything, or force you to do the same to them. All while speaking in a ludicrous and hilarious accent.

I brought this to Trope Talk as well to confirm the definition, and indeed that's what it was deemed to be.

Unfortunately, the name is very vague, and does not describe the "violent" part of the trope well at all. As part of my project to reduce the backlog of Tropes Needing TRS (where this was listed), I decided to do a wick check.

Wick check: Link here, but here's the quick results:

  • 3/50 examples were correctly used, dealing with a violently protective Asian store owner, or 6%
  • 9/50 examples were about the stereotype of Asians being store owners, or 18%
  • 20/50 examples, as written, were just store owners who happened to be Asian, or 40%
  • 15/50 examples were zero-context, unclear, or other, or 30%, and
  • 3/50 examples were unclassifiable, or 6%

Analysis: Alright, so just 6% correct examples is pretty bad, and the large number of examples that, as written, were store owners who happen to be Asian, along with Zero-Context Examples, indicate that most of the usage isn't salvageable. However, 18% of the examples dealt with a specific stereotype that store owners tend to be Asian (like Apu from The Simpsons), and some examples dealt with Asian store owners who were rude, but not violent.

Possible solutions: So here's what I was thinking. I genuinely think the Asian Store Owner Stereotype might be tropable on its own, so if we can hash out the specifics of that trope, that's what this could be turned into. We could then just clean out the rest of the use, and TBH I think a specifically violently protective Asian store owner stereotype is too strict. So yeah, rework into Asian Store Owner Stereotype. If that isn't a valid concept, we could just disambiguate this trope or even cut it, since the correct use is so low.

What does everyone else think? Any other ideas or suggestions?

Wick check:

Here a wick check will be performed for Asian Store-Owner.

Why?: This trope is, per the description and Laconic, supposed to be about Asian store owners who are "violently protective of their store", to quote the Laconic. Or maybe it's about most store owners being Asian, since the description mentions that too. Check for both, along with "any Asian store owner".

Wicks checked: 50/50

Wick totals:

  • 3/50 examples were correctly used, dealing with a violently protective Asian store owner, or 6%
  • 9/50 examples were about the stereotype of Asians being store owners, or 18%
  • 20/50 examples, as written, were just store owners who happened to be Asian, or 40%
  • 15/50 examples were zero-context, unclear, or other, or 30%, and
  • 3/50 examples were unclassifiable, or 6%


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    Correct use (Asian store owner who is violently protective of store) (3/50) 
  1. Characters.Jackie Chan Adventures The Chan Clan: Very protective of his antiques, and has the skills to back it up. Seems to be correct—an Asian store owner who is willing to use violence to protect his store.
  2. Film.The Ladykillers 2004: The introduction to the General shows him, rather brutally, foiling a hold-up in his shop. Seems to be correct.
  3. VideoGame.Leisure Suit Larry 1 In The Land Of The Lounge Lizards: The store owner from Quiki Mart speaks with an Asian accent (stuff like "Lubber" instead of "Rubber") and if you try to shoplift from him, he will shoot you. Correct.

    Stereotype of Asians specifically being store owners (9/50) 
  1. YMMV.Jeff Foxworthy: In one skit, he asks the crowd if they have "Abduls" working in their 7-Elevens, and then wonders if 7-Elevens in the Middle East have American workers. Later on, he adds ableist humor to the pile with "it's like a midget using mouthwash; who would know?" References the stereotype of Asians being store owners specifically.
  2. Literature.Contes De La Rue Broca: One recurring character is Papa Saïd, an Arab grocer (a famous stereotype of a shopkeeper in France). His eldest daughter, Nadia, is a protagonist of the first story and his youngest son, Bachir, goes to save her from the witch. He also has two twin daughters, Rachida and Malika, who are involved with the Clever Little Pig. References the stereotype of Asians being store owners specifically..
  3. NationalStereotypes.Asia:
    • In most of Northern Europe, the convenience-store owner who would be Asian in an American or British production will be an immigrant Turk (usually, though "generic Middle East" is gaining traction). Impressive facial hair is optional, shouty voice, huge gestures and Flowery Insults are not. No mention of wanting to violently protect their store.
    • Jobwise South Asians come in two types. The successful and academic types are typically Doctor, Scientists, Lawyers sometimes classy business tycoons or Politicians. If they are on the lower end of the economic ladder, expect them to be the Asian Store-Owner or a taxi driver (sometimes other types of driver) or Resturant/cafe/food worker.
    • Asian Store-Owner: Asians will be owners of grocery stores. All three reference the stereotype of Asians being store owners.
  4. Trivia.The Office USS 1 E 2 Diversity Day: Some extra back-and-forth after Kelly slaps Michael, including Michael comparing his Asian Store-Owner imitation to "Don Rickles on acid", and Jim, noting Michael's forehead card, asking why Kelly slapped Martin Luther King Jr. Seems to be referencing the stereotype of an Asian store owner.
  5. Creator.The Capitol Steps: One skit had a character proclaim "If you do not stop making fun of Pakistani people, we will be forced to do something drastic. We will close every 7-Eleven in your country!!" Seems to be a reference to the stereotype.
  6. Characters.Pulp Fiction: This trope is discussed by him in the film's opening conversation; he laments about how knocking over convenience stores has become nearly impossible, since many such store owners don't speak enough English to understand "Open the fucking register!" Seems to be referring to the stereotype? Still misuse though, as violence isn't mentioned.
  7. TheArtifact.The Simpsons: Apu was created to be a stereotype of the ethnic store clerk, and in many respects, it was Fair for Its Day—Apu was a relatable, fleshed-out character with a realistic, down-to-earth backstory. This excerpt, and the entry surrounding it, discuss the stereotype, but not the trope.
  8. WebVideo.Where The Bears Are: The clerk at the Stockroom seems to be this... at first. It turns out that she is a Dominatrix who manhandles the bears and chides Nelson for falling for the Asian stereotype act. References the stereotype.
  9. Music.Anal Cunt: Asians Eat Pets: Asians are not spared from Putnam's wrath: one of their songs is titled "I Sold Your Dog to a Chinese Restaurant", while "You Own a Store" contains the line "Hide your dogs, hide your cats". References the stereotype.

    Any Asian store owner with no other implications (20/50) 
  1. Film.Bait 3 D: The supermarket owner is Chinese, but apparently second-generation or later since there's no accent. Just an Asian store owner with no other references.
  2. Series.Coronation Street: Not much was done to remedy this until well into The '90s. When the producers remedied this by having the Desai family take over the corner shop However they mostly failed to click with audiences or the rest of the cast and were soon replaced with their cousin Dev Alahan who has been with the show ever since. Later joined by the Nazirs, who run the community centre or work at the factory, bistro, or medical centre. Just Asians being store owners with no other implications.
  3. Series.Sam And Cat: Afish, the owner of the Handy Quick near the apartment, is a Middle Eastern man who's extremely self-obsessed. Just an Asian store owner with no other implications.
  4. Film.Four Brothers: The owner of the store where Evelyn was killed is Middle Eastern. The clerk who was killed was likely one of his relatives as well. Just an Asian store owner with no other implications.
  5. Literature.Cannery Row: Lee Chong, who operates the local grocery, and who stocks pretty much everything and anything in his store. Just an Asian store owner with no other implications.
  6. WesternAnimation.Purno De Purno: Dr. Ha Chiu, who owns a Chinese store that sells various potion-like liquids. Just an Asian store owner with no other implications.
  7. UsefulNotes.The War On Terror: The Boondocks episode "A Date with the Health Inspector" made one hell of an allusion to the Iraq War in the form of a convenience store robbery. Ed Wuncler III and Gin Rummy (White Gang Banger takes on George W. Bush and Donald Rumsfeld) take some beer called "Black Gold", and when the Arab store clerk (Saddam Hussein) tries to charge them, they accuse him of having a gun (Weapons of Mass Destruction). A cop named Frank (France) shows up, and Ed III levels a gun to him, shouting "Whose side you on?!" The clerk's coworkers fight back, leading to a two-hour shootout with more allusions to the events around the War than can be listed here. It ends with the Arab store owners arrested and Ed III and Rummy hailed as heroes. As written, just an Asian store owner with no other subtext.
  8. Series.Kims Convenience: Mr. Kim and Mrs. Kim are the Korean owners of the titular store, with Janet often helping out (although she's against the idea of inheriting the store from her father). Just Asian store owners.
  9. ChuckCunninghamSyndrome.Western Animation: Dr. Ha Chiu, an Asian guy who runs an Asian store selling various potion-like substances, disappeared after the third series. Pothole just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  10. WesternAnimation.How Murray Saved Christmas: The clerk at the convenience store, who has eight arms.
    Santa: What are you?
    Clerk: I'm Vishnu.
    Santa: Vishnu?
    Clerk: I Vishnu wouldn't shoot me. As written, just a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  11. TheMirrorShowsYourTrueSelf.Western Animation The Simpsons: In "Brick Like Me", LEGO Homer starts seeing the real Homer in reflective surfaces after having a vision of his reality, where he was bonding with Lisa over LEGO construction sets. At one point, he yells at his reflection on the front window of the LEGO world's Kwik-E-Mart, causing him to be Mistaken for Racist by LEGO Apu. As written, just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  12. YMMV.Friday Film: The Asian Store-Owner in the first film randomly rising from the counter at his "Black Owned" convenience store and never appearing again. Just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  13. Website.Springhole: In Tips for Writing and Maintaining a Horror Atmosphere, guest writer Alexis Feynman points out that a shop lady in Chinatown would have more important things to do than punishing obnoxious teenagers for being obnoxious. Just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  14. Series.The Sarah Silverman Program: Sarah once robbed one for batteries since she didn't have enough money to afford them. As written, just references a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  15. Series.People Just Do Nothing: Kurupt FM's associate and business partner, Chabuddy G, an illegal immigrant from Pakistan who makes a living from ripping people off and living beyond his means. Just a store owner who happens to be Asian.
  16. Film.It Could Happen To You: The deli Charlie and his partner frequent is run by a Korean husband and wife pair. Just store owners who happen to be Asian.
  17. Recap.Welcome To Paradise: Woody hires a Korean convenience store owner to follow Denzel around and make sure he doesn't steal anything. There seems to be an implication that the store owner is violently protective, but it isn't explicit enough to count IMO. As written, it's just an Asian store owner.
  18. Literature.Angels Flight: Bosch finds himself inside a convenience store owned by a Chinese man at the end, just after he's escaped from the rioters. (That exact same shopkeeper and store pop up again in later Connelly novel 9 Dragons.) As written, just a store owner who is Asian.
  19. VideoGame.Dust A Tale Of The Wired West: Mr. Help (yes, that's his name), who offers hints if the player gets stuck and who is, at least to begin with, rather rude to the Stranger. Just a store owner who is Asian, and not violently protective of their store.
  20. Series.Count Arthur Strong: Bulent, though he's Turkish, and he runs a cafe instead of a shop. Averted with that one Indian guy Michael meets in a newsagent's, who's only a customer. Just a store owner who is Asian.

    ZCEs, unclear, and other (15/50) 
  1. VideoGame.Kings Quest II Romancing The Stones: There's a merchant in town who seems to be this, but his tendency to slip into a cockney accent gives him away... Low context.
  2. WesternAnimation.The Proud Family: In "E-Z Jackster", Mr. Min, the owner of the record store, is a really angry guy who yells at Mega for not buying anything. He's furious when the titular piracy site puts his store out of business. While this is an angry Asian store owner, he is not shown to be violently protective of his store, and thus does not count.
  3. SpiritualAntithesis.Live Action Films: The Dutch film The Columnist is this to Falling Down. Both films are darkly comedic thrillers about an ordinary person who hits a Rage Breaking Point and goes on a violent vigilante rampage against what they see as a World Gone Mad, and are deeply satirical about modern society and its ills while ultimately revealing their respective Villain Protagonists to be a lot less righteous than they think they are. Falling Down's William Foster was a right-leaning, blue-collar Angry White Man who worked in the highly technical profession of engineering at a defense contractor before losing his job due to the end of the Cold War, and his targets, from an Asian Store-Owner to Gangbangers to a homeless Phony Veteran, represent the fears of conservative Middle America in the early '90s. Meanwhile, Femke Boot, the titular protagonist of The Columnist, is a left-leaning, white-collar woman who works in the highly social profession of journalism, pushed over the edge not by economic misery but by online harassment, and her targets are internet trolls and far-right conspiracy theorists who symbolize the fears of young liberals in the late 2010s. Also, while Foster only directly kills one person even as he builds up an increasingly outlandish arsenal of weapons, Femke is an outright Serial Killer who murders numerous people yet sticks to knives, garden shears, bathtubs, and other close-in weapons throughout. Little implication in the pothole—putting it here as a ZCE.
  4. Film.This Is England: He bans Shaun early on for continuing to read a magazine without paying despite a couple of warnings, and gets his Disproportionate Retribution later on. No implication of violence.
  5. Characters.Gilmore Girls Stars Hollow: Own the town antique shop. No context.
  6. Characters.Still Game: Indian variety. Commented-out ZCE.
  7. Characters.Power Rangers Megaforce: Indian, to be more specific. No context.
  8. DarthWiki.Four Oh Two: Hiroshi Shinitani, Holmes' martial artist friend, in "Discovery". No context.
  9. Film.Do The Right Thing: The Korean shop owner. He's able to fend off the angry black mob that torches the Italian pizzeria by claiming that he's "black too." This was inspired by a Real Life story mentioned in The Autobiography of Malcolm X. During the Harlem riot of 1935, a convenience store was spared looting and burning when the Asian owners hung a sign in the window saying that they were colored too. Not just an Asian store owner, but still isn't correct use nor does it fit any other category. Other.
  10. WesternAnimation.Mission Hill: George's dad, Mr. Bang No context.
  11. WesternAnimation.Tom And Jerry Kids: The Indian man running the 7 Million Convenience Store in "Galaxy Droopy". No context.
  12. WesternAnimation.Eight Crazy Nights: Mr. Chin, played by (Rob Schneider), fits a lot of the stereotypes; although he subverts Asian Rudeness just from the fact that the only time he acts angry is completely justified. (Davey dining and dashing). Beyond that he's just curt, not mean. Fits stereotypes, but not that all store owners are Asian. Also not violent. Misuse.
  13. Literature.Ordinary Time: Discussed mockingly by Sher’s father, when the Duke enlists him in a spot of intelligence work:
    “You were, as I recall, a spice and tea merchant, an East India Provisions wholesaler who, had y’ removed t’ Town, should have been the glory of a restored Mincin’ Lane and an ornament of the Worshipful Company of Grocers.”
    “No, Charles, I’m simply the British Asian who runs the corner shop. Of course you recall correctly: among the interests in which our holding company invested were firms which were considerable importers of spices and of tea. As you perfectly well know, and, as I expect, of which you have all our financials going back a decade. It’s allowed my brother-in-law note  to keep his pomp and state.” Unclear if it's discussing the stereotype or just someone who is an Asian store owner.
  14. WesternAnimation.Bro Town: note  No context, commented out.
  15. VideoGame.The Curse Of The Were Rabbit: Mr. Caliche. No context, commented out.

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  1. Laconic.Asian Store Owner The Laconic.
  2. Asian Rudeness: Can also overlap with Asian Store-Owner as well as with Arrogant Kung-Fu Guy, or (in Japanese media) Bokukko or even The Idiot from Osaka. "See also" link in description.
  3. Pantheon.Businesses And Corporations Pantheon.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 8th 2023 at 9:38:13 AM

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#3: Mar 21st 2023 at 12:22:01 PM

Maybe this is too rare to trope. Or even chairs. The description doesn't really offer a possible reasoning for this being a Thing.

Based on the third paragraph, is the actual idea "Minority Store Owner" (in a "let's make fun of the Funny Foreigner" way) instead of "Asian"? 'Cuz if you're a small business owner in a town where you're part of a minority, you may have faced some nasty people and have to aggressively protect yourself and your business... but again the description says nothing about that.

We already have a trope for Asian Rudeness.

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#4: Mar 21st 2023 at 12:24:30 PM

So, this is a stereotype, though it depends on what you consider "Asian" because the stereotype mostly applies to Indians and Middle Eastern characters running convenience stores and gas stations and stuff (obviously they're Asian but in the states Asian tends to mean East Asian). Granted, IDK if the stereotype actually means anything.

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 21st 2023 at 3:24:57 PM

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#5: Mar 21st 2023 at 12:33:42 PM

"Asians aggressively protecting business" only brings to mind US news events from the early 90s. Don't think I've seen it in media before, though the media I consume tends to be from much more recently than that.

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#6: Mar 21st 2023 at 12:36:39 PM

I know Asian store owners are stereotyped as being violently overprotective in the Shop Lift And Die sense (in the US at least) but the Asian Store-Owner just boils down to the trope name.

I guess if we do keep this trope, we retighten it to focus on the violently protective as aspects but I don't know if that's worth doing. If not, there's the aforementioned Shop Lift And Die (which is oddly centered on video games).

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#7: Mar 21st 2023 at 1:00:19 PM

My issue then is that if we extrapolate from the wick check's 3 correct examples, a potential rework might have only a dozen examples.

Shoplift and Die is video game focused because it's a fairly common video game mechanic to punish the player for theft (note the paragraph on the mechanical effects), and a bit of an in-universe way to address the "issue" of shoplifting not being an option in many games (devs: OK, we'll make shoplifting an option, and we'll make you suffer for taking it).

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#8: Mar 21st 2023 at 1:07:28 PM

I agree with Tabs that this might not be salvageable in its current state, but I'm not sure what course of action to take if we get rid of it (with or without Yarding the stereotype).

Maybe we could remove the "violently protective" part and broaden it to include examples about the stereotype of Asians being store owners, which is 9/50 wicks in the wick check (add the examples that fit the narrower current definition and that would mean 12/50 wicks), and might be a Trope in Aggregate, but I'm not sure.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 21st 2023 at 3:11:59 AM

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#9: Mar 21st 2023 at 1:20:49 PM

Can't quite remember what I had in mind regarding Asian Store Owner Stereotype — either I was thinking Apu-type characters (as Jay alluded to) or I was thinking of the stereotype of store owners tending to be Asian, but if neither of these ideas are workable I'll back off from them.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Mar 21st 2023 at 4:21:31 AM

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#10: Mar 21st 2023 at 1:56:50 PM

I was actually thinking of the stereotype WarJay mentioned involving South Asian convenience store owners/employees, though I don't know how prevalent the "violently protective" part is. As she said, Asian usually means East Asian in the US, and I'm not familiar with any similar stereotypes involving East Asian store owners/employees, and I don't know if this stereotype is present in the UK despite people there usually meaning South Asian when they say Asian.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 21st 2023 at 3:59:15 AM

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#11: Mar 21st 2023 at 2:19:15 PM

I wanted to be paged because I have a lot of thoughts on this trope. This is going to be long so apologies in advance.

The way I see it, there are two related but somewhat distinct stereotypes being merged into one by virtue of them both centering on "asian store owner".

The first is what I'm going to call the "widespread one" of "south/south east/central asian convenience store owner". This is the stereotype that was popularized in the US by Apu and mainstream media (this will become important) that points out that south/south east asians often work at or run convenience stores as commentary on real world immigration and occupation habits. In the US it's almost always a South Asian or South East Asian person, but in the UK I think it's more often a South Asian or Central Asian, even Middle Eastern person because again, different immigration patterns. This is similar to other stereotypes about Asian people and occupation like Chinese Launderer, "Asian nail salon worker" (notable example is Ms. Swan from Mad TV, also see page 3 of this article [1]) as Asian women, particularly Vietnamese women, dominated the industry in the 80s and 90s [2] and "Asian massage parlor workers" (which we cover on the site with Happy-Ending Massage).

The second one is much more specific to black American media and discourse: the often racist and sometimes violent asian store owner. Again, Truth in Television as far as "Asian store owners in predominantly black and urban neighborhoods" goes, since that was a real world phenom [3] due to a mix of immigration trends and racist loaning practices from banks that led to tension and confrontation between the two groups throughout the 80s and 90s [4] that did show up in black media (most controversially with Ice Cube's song Black Korea) and eventually boiled over during the LA Riots.

In general, I think the larger Asian Store-Owner trope should still exist as a stereotype trope or Trope in Aggregate. We can make it work by adding some specifications like how these characters will typically be the only Asian character in the work, they'll speak either Stereotypical South Asian English or Asian Speekee Engrish (depending on the ethnic background of the character), it will often be a family affair, etc and include some of the history of the stereotype. Honestly, I think Chinese Launderer's description is a good jumping off point.

As for the "rude/racist and violent" angle, 2 things. Ideally, I think that should be broken out into its own subtrope or Sister Trope. However, because the trope is 1) somewhat specific to black American media which is undertroped on the site in general since it's historically been not considered mainstream until the late 2000s and 2010s and 2) something of a Forgotten Trope, I think the idea can be yarded for now.

Edited by amathieu13 on Mar 22nd 2023 at 3:14:10 PM

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#12: Mar 21st 2023 at 2:27:37 PM

[up] Excellent analysis Amathieu. I agree with reworking the trope as you had suggested.

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#13: Mar 21st 2023 at 2:42:07 PM

Right. Something like Kim's Convenience where the Asian store-owners are the focus of the work should not be an example.

Re: the note about migration patterns + the description's paragraph about how in Europe it the storeowners are more likely to be MENA than East/Southeast Asian: is the actual trope about "ethnic minority storeowners" and should not be about Asian people specifically?

Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 21st 2023 at 4:42:41 AM

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#14: Mar 21st 2023 at 3:05:30 PM

^I actually disagree about Kim's Convenience. I think the show was created to intentionally play with the stereotype by giving what are typically 1-dimensional bit characters and walking stereotypes in most shows an actual narrative, characterization, interior life, etc. It's part of the re-examination of the trope.

And as for "ethnic minority store owner," this is a tough one. In some ways, I get the idea behind expanding it, that said, if the trope as it shows up in the wild predominantly focuses on a specific ethnic group, then it makes sense to focus on them. Latino store owners and black store owners aren't really that much of a distinct trope in the sense that black and latino representation goes beyond those stereotypes. Part of the issue is that "asian" is used broader in the UK than it is in the US making the stereotype seem more amorphous than I think it actually is and asian representation in media is so limited so most long-term representation of Asian characters becomes uniquely stereotypical.

Edited by amathieu13 on Mar 21st 2023 at 6:06:59 AM

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#15: Mar 21st 2023 at 9:12:07 PM

I think Ethnic Menial Labor is already the expanded version of this trope.

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#16: Mar 21st 2023 at 9:57:07 PM

[up]I agree! This should be a subtrope of that (unsure why it wasn't to begin with)

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#17: Mar 21st 2023 at 11:07:36 PM

I think I'll give a [tup]to reworking.

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#18: Mar 22nd 2023 at 12:28:44 AM

I agree with reworking now that further input has been provided, and I think the stereotype counts as a Trope in Aggregate.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 22nd 2023 at 2:28:54 PM

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#19: Mar 22nd 2023 at 12:43:10 AM

I was thinking about this some more and came across Profiling. An old trope with not too many wicks that can probably absorb the specific subtrope of "racist asian store owner" since all of them deal with racial profiling anyways.

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#20: Mar 22nd 2023 at 1:54:54 AM

[up]Sounds good.

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#21: Mar 24th 2023 at 6:09:35 AM

So, it's been three days. Do we have any ideas other than expanding to be about the broader stereotype mentioned in the third paragraph of this post and possibly renaming? Transplanting the stereotype of racist store owners to Profiling was also suggested.

Asking because I'm not entirely sure what to put on a crowner if we have one, or if we're even ready for one.

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#23: Mar 24th 2023 at 6:43:23 AM

I hooked the crowner since I was waiting to see how what I posted looked before making it. Holler if I missed anything.

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#24: Mar 24th 2023 at 6:50:28 AM

Mod hat off since I'm just making a suggestion this time. I was thinking either Stereotypical Asian Store Owner or Asian Store Owner Stereotype might work as a name if we rename, kind of like how a previous rename for a previous rename for an ethnic stereotype only involved the addition of a single word (Angry Black Man becoming "Angry Black Man" Stereotype).

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#25: Mar 24th 2023 at 7:02:19 AM

Ngl idt I've ever seen "Central Asian store owner" in any media. East Asian, yes.

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Asian Store Owner is currently defined to specifically refer to violently protective and often racist store owners, and broadening it to be about more general stereotypes of Asian store owners (possibly including transplanting the stereotype of racist store owners to Profiling), possibly with a rename, was suggested. What should be done with Asian Store Owner?

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