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• "House of Death": Judge Death is, as usual, presented as a maniac who desires to spread death across the world. Brought back with the dimensional generator, Judge Death used the Brotherhood of Baal to kidnap and murder hundreds of people. When Judge Dredd arrived to investigate the matter, Death sends his fellow Dark Judges after him and then tries to kill him personally, succeeding in one of the endings, after which he proudly announces his intention to slaughter the entire population of Mega-City One.
• Fantastic Four: What Lies Between, by Peter David: Psycho-Man and Dormammu are interdimensional tyrants who meet each other and form an alliance. When a scientist named Dr. Rachael Hunt creates a portal to the interspace dimensions, Psycho-Man and Dormammu mentally manipulate her, convincing her to open her portal. They then infect Dr. Hunt, Human Torch, and Mr. Fantastic with a virus which kills Dr. Hunt and turns Human Torch and Mr. Fantastic into demonic beings that see everyone else as enemies. Psycho-Man and Dormammu have Human Torch and Mr. Fantastic try to kill the rest of the Fantastic Four, and when that fails, they threaten to kill Mr. Fantastic's son Franklin if he does not obey them. Psycho-Man and Dormammu order Mr. Fantastic to open the portals to Interspace and the Negative Zone at the same time so that Dormammu can absorb the energy from both dimensions and destroy the barriers between the dimensions, which would allow cosmic horrors to invade Earth and cause chaos and death across the multiverse.
• Just Another Judgment Day: Josie Prince is the founder and funder of "Precious Memories", one of the most abhorrent businesses in the already wretched societies of the Nightside. Josie has children kidnapped off the streets of London to become sex slaves and worse, having them raped, mutilated, and tortured before the kids finally wear out and are fed to dogs. Josie has these atrocities recorded to artificial memories she then sells to her depraved clients so they can get off to the agony of children any time they want, long after the kids themselves are dead. One of the most ruthless, sadistic people in the entire Nightside, Josie is even reputed to have killed her own kids, the oldest because he wasn't turning in enough profit, the youngest because he was exposed to the horrors of Precious Memories himself.
• Boss is the brutal commander of the Executioners, having them kill anyone she has labeled an Akudama. Ordered by the Board of Kanto to capture the immortal children Brother and Sister, Boss collaborates with Doctor in orchestrating a trap where Boss tries to kill the Akudama and bring Brother and Sister to Kanto, knowing that they would be used as extra storage for their supercomputer for all eternity. When people in Kansai start rioting, Boss pressures the Police Chief to declare them all Akudama, where she then initiates a wide-scale massacre throughout the city, killing thousands. When the rest start to rebel upon witnessing Swindler's execution, Boss attempts to force the Chief to declare them Akudama for her to kill them all, causing the Chief to commit suicide.
• Deca-Dence:
  • Hugin and Munin are the chief content administrators of Deca-Dence, deeming those that interfere with their narrative, "bugs", who they would torture before either executing them or send them to the Bugs Correctional Facility where they must shovel down feces created by Gadoll for decades, driving many into insanity, while the excrement gets converted into Oxyone that they forcibly inject into their prisoners. Among their many victims are Kaburagi's team, with them killing Mikey and imprisoning the rest before forcing Kaburagi to hunt down players, before sending him to the Bugs Correctional Facility when he disobeys orders. When Kaburagi and the prisoners rebel, Hugin and Munin send their forces to kill off all the prisoners, while they track down Kaburagi and Natsume to the factory where they created the Gadoll before sending them to Deca-Dence, and attempt to kill them with Hugin personally strangling Natsume. When Kaburagi saves Natsume, Hugin meets up with Munin where they active the force field's spatial compression to annihilate all life on Deca-Dence and restart their narrative, an act they’ve tried and succeeded in doing several times before.
  • Turkey is among the many cyborgs sent to the Bugs Correctional Facility, where he would take advantage of being Donatello's second-in-command to bully those weaker than him. Fearing that Kaburagi's rebellion might get him killed, Turkey collaborates with Hugin and Munin in sending the game police to slaughter the prisoners on the condition that they pardon his crimes, uncaring of the number of deaths they bring while manipulating Sarkozy into helping him cause the massacre. When Sarkozy gets fatally wounded in the crossfire, Turkey gleefully admits to using Sarkozy before leaving him to die while he attempts to escape the facility alone.
• Lovesick Dead: The handsome young man of the crossroads, a mysterious being dressed in black, wanders the town in the oppressive fog spreading chaos and discord where he goes. Taking advantage of the urban legend of "crossroad fortunes", the young man delivers fortunes in ways that ruin or end the lives of the recipients, with a rash of suicides from his powers. When a teenage girl crushes on the hero Ryusuke Fukada, the young man forces her into obsession over him until it kills her, before telling an adulterous man's pregnant mistress to seek out larger problems until she murders her lover's young son and immolates herself. Initiating a mass suicide of 200 girls, the young man even forces the Ryusuke's Love Interest Midori into hating him for the rest of her life, a curse she kills herself to escape.
• Summer Wars: Love Machine is a deranged, rogue computer program out to throw the world into chaos for his own amusement. Designed to crave knowledge and unleashed onto OZ as a "test run", Love Machine quickly evolves beyond his parameters and begins absorbing avatars to take control of infrastructure across the globe and cause traffic pileups, sewer system damages, and many other forms of destruction. Ruthlessly shutting off the heart monitor of Sakae Jinnouchi so a heart failure would go unnoticed and result in her death, Love Machine later takes control of the Arawashi satellite in hopes of dropping it onto a random nuclear plant and killing countless people. When the Jinnouchi family uses a fair game of Koi to steal away the A.I.'s power—with Love Machine trying to cheat in any way possible—Love Machine reacts to the loss by spitefully attempting to redirect the Arawashi to crash and kill the entire Jinnouchi clan, giggling all the way.
• Fall of Cthulhu: Nyarlathotep himself manipulates everything for the purpose of unleashing his master Azathoth unto the universe and eradicating humanity. Nyarlathotep's Historical Rap Sheet is endless, having spent centuries perpetuating insanity, suicide, and catastrophe around him, in one case eradicating Atlantis after having driven the entire population into madness, keeping the only survivor as an immortal cat he keeps by his side for the thrill of eternally tormenting him. In the present day, Nyarlathotep, under the guise of "Mr. Arkham," ruins the life of Cy Morgan before having him tortured and leaving his insane form as almost an afterthought. Bringing his followers into the world one-by-one through the deaths of others, Nyarlathotep in particular drives a 7-year-old child so insane he kills his own parents, before killing him and using his hollow corpse as a vessel for his followers. Among his other cruel actions, Nyarlathotep hypnotizes the residents of a bar into burning themselves alive; hideously tortures the heroes; and has the brain of his human follower Connor extracted and set up to look in a mirror until he's driven insane, unable to move or die. Nyarlathotep seeks nothing less than to drive all humanity insane for kicks before eradicating them.
• The Lurker at the Threshold: A Horror Mystery, by Brandon Berntson: Abdul Alhazred is known as the Mad Arab and is the author of the Necronomicon. A worshipper of Yog-Sothoth, Abdul intends to allow his master dominion over this world for power and wisdom at the cost of the extinction of the human race in turn. Using the Necronomicon to release the Outer Gods on the city to slaughter it, Abdul also intends to brainwash a young woman into a Breeding Slave for his master.
• Code: Crisis & The Spectre Wars : X.A.N.A.—also known as Primeval—after surviving the events of season 4, establishes itself as far worse than his canonical counterpart by using phone calls to spread a horrific shriek that painfully kills a thousand people. Spreading more shrieks through Europe, X.A.N.A. also mind-rapes William Dunbar after tricking him into empowering it. Hidden in the Pentagon, X.A.N.A. controls several workers there to do its bidding, but doesn't take care of them, leading to their bodies ending up severely malnourished to the point that one worker's spine was exposed. Upon regaining its full power, Primeval destroys the Pentagon, killing even more people, and proceeds to slaughter the U.S. military. When Jérémie reveals he trapped Primeval in a human body where it'll ultimately die even if it won, Primeval attempts to rape Aélita in order to have progeny to continue its work. Ultimately defeated, Primeval spitefully uses the last of its code to attempt to destroy the world, all to deny the Lyoko-warriors their victory.
• Those Who Wish Me Dead: Jack and Patrick Blackwell are a pair of trigger-happy hitmen who always take the most violent, murderous route for their jobs. Opening the film by murdering an entire family—including an infant—the Blackwells later kill their target Owen Casserly, as well as a bystander who stumbles upon them. When tasked to also kill Owen's young son Connor, the Blackwells plan to murder anyone who sees their faces before starting a massive forest fire just to distract from their rampage. Later beating, torturing, and trying to kill the pregnant Allison, the Blackwells take her husband Ethan as a hostage with Jack planning to force him to kill Connor for them, while Patrick later sadistically beats Connor's friend Hannah to draw the boy out with her screams.
• Borderlands: Unconquered, by John Shirley: Dr. Vialle is a Mad Scientist allied with General Goddess Gynella in her plan to subjugate Pandora. Using his SusDrug, Vialle drives entire villages and camps into lustful frenzies, making the males slaves to Gynella while the females are handed off to be raped by her armies. Vialle also performs horrifying experiments on countless people to test his new inventions, resulting in one subject tearing himself apart, and Vialle plans to ultimately betray Gynella herself for his own power.
• "Exorcist Road" novella & Exorcist Falls, by Jonathan Janz:
  • Malephar is a demon with many, many long years of possessing, corrupting, and murdering all those who placed themselves in his path. With this legacy of murder, Malephar targets the priesthood, inducing suicide in one priest before ending up in the body of the hero Father Jason, guiding him to evil in order to kill the "Sweet Sixteen Killer", Danny Hartman. Torturing Jason into compliance at times, Malephar later flees from him to possess a priest who has lost his faith. Revealing himself to Jason, Malephar mutilates and flays a nun alive, telling Jason he will coax Hartman's nephew into new heights as a murderer while murdering Jason's Love Interest and her daughter while framing Jason for the nun's death.
  • Danny Hartman is a seemingly friendly police officer, but in actuality is hiding the fact that he is the infamous Sweet Sixteen Killer, a vile kidnapper and murderer of teenage girls. Spurred to his wicked ways due to a rejection by his childhood crush, Hartman began raping, torturing, and killing young girls in horrid ways, and used his position to cover them up. Ultimately planning to slaughter his brother's entire family, Hartman corrupts his nephew into becoming a killer like himself before executing his current police partner, trying to frame Father Crowder for the crimes, and welcome the demon Malephar into his body so as to kickstart a bloody reign of terror for decades to come.
• House of Skin, by Jonathan Janz: Annabel Carver is a mysterious young woman found by the Carver brothers, David and Myles. Marrying the former while conducting an affair with the latter, Annabel comes to dominate their life while swaying David into murdering children for her amusement. Eventually revealed as a centuries-old being who seduces men and drives them to madness and ruin, Annabel spitefully murders a woman for an affair with Myles after he kills David and marries her. Swaying the last Carver, Paul, into murder as well, Annabel ends the novel murdering him and his lover Julia before moving on to a brand-new victim whom she intends to drive into murder and destruction as well.
• The Nightmare Girl by Jonathan Janz: Patrick Grayman is a cult leader terrorizing the town of Shadeland in search of immortality. Claiming to have lived for centuries, Grayman has used his cult to murder entire families to serve as "heathen" sacrifices before using indoctrinated members to burn themselves alive to complete life-prolonging rituals. Now targeting Joe Crawford, Grayman has the ashes of the man's dead son thrown in his face, stalks his family, and viciously kills those around him. Endorsing his members to torture and cannibalize their victims as well as abuse their children, Grayman tries to burn Joe and the infant Stevie alive, promising to follow it up by killing Joe's wife and daughter.
• The Sorrows & Castle of Sorrows, by Jonathan Janz:
  • Gabriel Blackwood, first appearing as an innocent boy adopted by the Blackwoods in the Sorrows, is in truth the sadistic god Pan. After having slaughtered most everyone in the region, Gabriel waits until the arrival of others at the Sorrows. Seducing the women there, Claire and Eva, Gabriel sleeps with both of them before violently raping Eva and mutilating her. Torturing and killing everything in the castle he can get his claws on, Gabriel later has his daughter with Claire returned to him and proceeds to massacre everyone who comes to the island, using their sins and guilt to torture them further when he can. Even taking control of one woman to kill the baby, Gabriel ends the sequel possessing Ben's father-in-law—Claire's father—to murder Ben's family out of spite at being thwarted.
  • Ray Rubio is a two-bit thug unconnected to Gabriel or any of his machinations who manages to match the Humanoid Abomination in savage evil. A gangster on the payroll of Marvin Irvin, Ray Rubio is a Serial Killer, a Serial Rapist, and a torturer who introduces himself in the second book working at an unfortunate man with a mandolin slicer. Ray proceeds to slaughter numerous other people as he goes on, in one case raping and murdering an unfortunate jogger after she witnesses him offing a pair of FBI agents, and even after being trapped in the castle within the bowels of the Sorrows, all Rubio can think about is his intent to rape and kill everyone he comes across.
  • Castle of Sorrows only: Troy Castillo was a rapist through his teen years who gained a love of killing after beating a prostitute to death to sate his own ego. Becoming an FBI agent to mask his rapes and killings, Castillo murdered an entire family by first executing the father, then gang-raping the mother and daughter with his goons. Upon arriving at the Sorrows, Castillo arranges for the deaths of several of his compatriots, and ultimately plans to rape his partner Jessie then hand her off to be tortured to death.
• Liar's second season: Oliver Graham is a Serial Rapist who raped many men throughout the many years he was active. When Andrew Earlham discovers what he has been doing, he goes over to his house with footage of his rape. Oliver figures out why he didn't turn him in: Andrew was fascinated by the idea of the power raping gives him over his victims. Oliver gives Andrew a vial of the drugs he used to knock out his victims and corrupts Andrew into becoming a serial rapist like himself. After Andrew is caught for his rapes, he contacts Oliver asking for his help to disappear. Oliver accepts willingly at first under the condition that Andrew will leave him alone. He later ends up forced to help Andrew with his plan, and when Andrew ends up murdered, he continues with his plan and blackmails a police detective to frame Laura Nielsen for Andrew's murder.
• Primeval's second season: Oliver Leek is the ARC's treacherous second-in-command. Allying with Helen Cutter, Leek set about capturing dangerous predators from the anomalies and neural clamping them, intending to use them to Take Over the World. Amassing a secret army, Leek placed a dozen predators at locations across the UK, planning to release them and kill as many people as possible to cause chaos. Smuggling a future predator into the ARC, Leek massacred all of the staff present and then attempted to kill James Lester, toying with him the whole time to try and draw out his death as long as possible. As a demonstration of power, Leek then unleashed a deadly Silurian scorpion onto a crowded beach, killing numerous people. Abducting the team, Leek attempts to feed them alive to a Smilodon whilst forcing Professor Nick Cutter to watch the whole thing. His plans foiled, Leek then corners Cutter with his future predators and threatens to dismantle him joint by joint unless Lester calls off his men.
• Marah in the Mainsail's Bone Crown: The "Great" Fox is a treacherous, sinister manipulator out to control the dark forest through force. Though first seeming to be simply paranoid in ordering any humans who enter his forest be slain, the Fox is revealed to have usurped the ivory throne of the forest from the true Stag King, torturing, killing, and gnawing the very antlers from his head for the Fox to don as his "bone crown". When the Owl and Timber Man reveal the Fox's crooked actions, the Fox viciously mains his friend the Owl before ordering the entire forest be burned down with everyone inside, happy to see its entire populace perish with him so long as nobody rules the dark forest but him.
• The Mercury Theatre on the Air's version of Dracula: Count Dracula himself is, as ever, an undead fiend with an air of terrifying sophistication who strives to turn all of England into his feeding ground. Dracula takes on Jonathan Harker as his real estate agent before his trip to England, only to leave Jonathan Harker trapped in his castle surrounded by wolves when Harker figures out too much about Dracula, intending to leave Harker to go mad from the solitude in his confinement. Dracula arrives in England after slaughtering a ship full of people and promptly begins dispersing coffins across the country, feeding on the beautiful Lucy Westenra and attempting to take the beautiful Mina for his own too.
• The Unquenchable Thirst of Dracula: The Count, a savage predator as ever, takes refuge in India where he allies with the cult of the local Rani. When young heroine Penny arrives seeking her sister Lucy, it is revealed Dracula has been preying on countless young women, killing or turning them into soulless vampires which infuriates the Rani due to Dracula tainting her sacrifices. Dracula proceeds to massacre the cult and escape to terrorize and slaughter his way through the city.
• Corpse Killer: Dr. Hellman is a necro biologist who plans to create a new world order with his army of the undead. Originally the head of Project Manpower, which provided the United States with undead soldiers to fight in wars, Hellman would also allow his zombies to be used to slaughter several third world countries, even rigging cameras onto them to record the carnage. After resigning to the Cay Noir island, Hellman uses the island's undead as personal slaves, with the intent to unleash his zombies all across the globe. Kidnapping four of five Marines sent by the U.S. government to take him out, Hellman tortures and converts them into mutant zombies to fight their lieutenant.
• Serious Sam 4:
  • Lord Achriman is the chief strategist and propagandist of the alien overlord Tah-Um, better known as "Mental", who on his master's behalf has made a thousand worlds across the galaxy cow and burn, their races either exterminated or enslaved. Achriman spearheads a similar assault against Earth, razing entire cities like Paris and Rome while having people either killed by the millions or converted into mindless, mutated fodder for Tah-Um's armies. Achriman even personally murders Sam's rookie friend Kenny in front of Sam's face just to hurt him. Unusually and distinctly dark for the World of Ham he lives in, Achriman is the vilest ever yet seen of Mental's armies.
  • General Howard Brand secretly allies with the forces of Mental to help them invade Earth. Sacrificing any troops and allies of Sam's he needs to supposedly for the greater good, Brand soon enough reveals his treachery as he impales Sam's friend Mikhail then orders the rest of his partners be devoured. Brand ultimately plans to pave the way for Mental's forces to wipe out all life on Earth, hoping to hand Sam over to serve as a slave while Brand gets promoted and helps bring about "the end of history", Brand downright cheerful at his self-proclaimed status as the "Beast of the Apocalypse and last human."
• Dice Funk's "Ilium" (season 3): Gylan Cadun is a vile member of the Order of the Merciful Sword who uses his position to indulge his sadism and prejudices. In the past he ordered the destruction of a village of peaceful Orcs, and when his men refused, had Rolen Hawklight beaten and banished from the Order and destroyed the village anyway. When the vampire Count Danto attacked the Order, Gylan sold them out, killed any paladins that resisted, and willingly became a vampire servant of the tyrannical Danto. Gylan then began recruiting people to become vampires within the Order, allowing them to harass and murder whoever they please, and having dozens of people held captive and drained of their blood. When Rolen and Veltari confronted him, Gylan attempted to cut off Rolen's fingers, and then attempted to force a protesting Veltari to murder an innocent man.
• Castlevania (2017): "Death"—the true identity of the seemingly blowhard vampire Varney—is revealed to be the mastermind behind the fourth season's conflict, and a creature far worse than Dracula ever was at his cruelest. A gluttonous, sadistic Ancient Evil who has been feeding on souls since the birth of humanity, Death personally partook in Dracula's attempted genocide against humanity with the anticipation of a feast, only to be left disappointed and hungry upon Dracula's demise. Solely so he'd never be hungry again, Death concocts a plan to manipulate the Count St. Germain into evil as part of a complex scheme to pluck both Dracula and Lisa's souls from Hell, upon which Death fuses them both into the same body in a state of pure agony. Death intends to drive Dracula so insane with his wife's screaming soul he'll slaughter the entire planet, a prospect Death is all too entertained and delighted by.
• Shepsheska is a felonious priest who willingly serves Aker and repeatedly betrays Pharaoh Merenre. Poisoning and attempting to usurp his master in his first appearance, he later brainwashes Princess Tethi into profaning a cat sanctuary to draw the wrath of Bastet on her family; attempts to murder Ratoufer and release the destructive Red Sphinx on the land. Abducting a dozen people, Shepsheska has their ka stolen and sacrificed to Sekhmet in order to brainwash the Pharaoh into warring against the Libyans. In his worst scheme, Shepsheska threatens to set the Nile on fire before the flood to cause a country-wide conflagration.

Edited by ACW on Jun 7th 2021 at 5:20:16 AM

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to the brother and Black Phillip.

Sorry if this is already something that has been discussed and I am missing it, but why are the keepers from Once Upon a Time under Live-Action TV: G to O when they are already on on the Disney page and it is already linked on the main Live-Action TV page?

Edited by Ordeaux26 on Jun 6th 2021 at 9:41:09 AM

CM Sandboxes, MB Sandboxes

I.. THINK...because even though it's Disney characters, it's not an official Disney series.

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In case someone missed it on the MB thread last night, I saw Cruella. It was fun/good. PM me to discuss.

For the FS of Batman Forever (watched it Friday night and it was really good), no one counts. Catwoman (Aiyanna doing Michelle Pfeiffer) was obviously never gonna count, but appears in the end and might do enough to become an MB. Two-Face (Malcom doing Billy Dee Williams) not only has the mitigating factor of a split personality, he legit loves his wife Grace, is effected by learning he has a child and ends up in such conflict refusing to hurt himself or others that he suffers amnesia and forgets everything that happened after the accident.

The Riddler/Edward Nygma (Doug doing Robin Williams, late great) is a near miss. He absolutely has the heinous actions necessary with tortures and through bombings and poisonings, murders (as well as just plenty of bombs threats as well), but he's given humane qualities too. He meets Grace who calls herself Angela and seems to be legit interested in her (though he sells her out to Two-Face/Harvey when he learns the truth) and Riddler/Edward does still seem very deeply effected and driven by his father's abuse of him as a child that he dies wanting to spite him too (and there's probably a legit Alas, Poor Villain angle too).

No to Black Phillip.

Yeah I agree that no one counts in the FS episode. Riddler comes close, but he has redeeming qualities and an excuse.

Edited by Bullman on Jun 6th 2021 at 12:16:25 PM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

for Rosmacdonald and Petensen.

for the brother and Black Phillip (tentative).

No to Black Philip.

Alright, having watched Lupin III: Mystery of the Hemingway Papers planning to look into Crazy Mash (got some bad news on him but I'll cover that after) I found the resident Big Bad Ensemble to be particularly nasty. Diving in to the story about the author's "suicide" actually being a murder to steal his notes leading to a treasure he had discovered on a remote island:

Who are they? What have they done?

Carlos (someone grab me his first name if they find it) and Combalona Maledorich Nanno Cosano were formerly two explorers who launched a joint venture into excavating the hidden treasure of Hemingway on Corcaca Island. Both greedy to the core, they each tried to take power as "President" to further their stronghold on the treasure, beginning a civil war that saw all the locals killed or driven out except for Lupin's eventual ally Maria, who runs a bar.

Throughout the film, the two live in luxury while constantly trying to outgun each other. With no care for their soldiers lives, during negotiations one merely smugly comments that he only lost 100 men in a single day, while his enemy lost 103, making it "clear" he'll outlast him. To bolster their forces Carlos hires Jigen and Cosano Goemon, as well as making a deal with Arms Dealer Marces and his mercenaries lead by Crazy Mash. Out paying Marces to have Mash kill him and obtain the papers leading to the treasure, Cosano forces Carlos into negotiations, both agreeing to look for the treasure as a joint venture once more while clearly plotting to screw the other over the second they find it.

Uncaring for the dangerous conditions they're putting their entire forces for to devote all resources to the hunt as the rain pours down, they run afoul of Lupin and the escaped Jigen and Goemon, having previously tried to make them fight to the death. Foolishly attacking while the gang hides on treacherous cliffs, Carlos and Cosano die to their greed, drowned or crushed in the heavy downfall and falling debris of tanks and vehicles.

Heinousness?

Inserting themselves as dictators, killing or driving away the locals to use their country as a treasure map and getting hundreds of their men killed by the day for their own profit. Nuff said.

Mitigating factors?

They refer to each other as having once been brothers but their clear self interest, how easily they broke apart and pattern of betraying anything to get ahead prove this to be hot air. Like a lot of Lupin stuff they've got some silly moments but their crimes are punctuated and nasty and they're no joke villains.

Verdict?

Pass.

Edited by 43110 on Jun 6th 2021 at 4:31:01 AM

Sure to those two.

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Yes to Lupin III duo

Carlos and Cosano

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

Yea there

And a yep to the latest duo

Now the sad part of business, the guy I was hoping I'd get to talk about and expand:

• Crazy Mash is a sadist who works for the rebel forces on Colcaca Island in the Mediterranean Sea. He routinely leads his men to Rape, Pillage, and Burn innocent people all along the countryside. He is also a former comrade of Jigen's, and he betrayed Jigen and his entire group, gunned them all down and left Jigen for dead. Ultimately a Dirty Coward, he is unable to fight the superior Jigen one-on-one and wants to corner him in traps or when he's in a group.

... is gonna have to go. The only thing I can think of Rape, Pillage, and Burn as referring to is one scene where two men in his unit try to rape Maria but there's no indication he knew anything about this.

What does Mash do in the series? He gives a creepy animalistic smile when assigned missions, betrayed Jigen's unit to their deaths in the past and I guess you could say in addition to trying to kill the heroes he's helping keep a conflict going by virtue of being a mercenary. He does lie to Marces when he told Mash to try to convince her to come back to him so he can kill her but these nasty little flourishes just don't add up.

It's a lot like Shinsuke: he loves killing and there's probably a history of more war crimes in addition to hiss Jigen betrayal but this is neither shown nor even alluded to. In the movie he's smiling like a sadistic CM when given orders but he really just does what he's told: killing the guy with the key for the Hemingway chest, attacking Lupin and the crew, aiding Cosano when Marces signs up with him, killing Marces on Cosano's orders, trying to kill the heroes again and surviving Carlos and Cosano to face off against Jigen one last time. He's a cheap fighter but we've got a single Serial Killer with an attempted bodycount of 100, we've got Mamo and X trying to erase the Lupin line from existence, Logan bodyjacking his son, people who force child prostitution or even outright pedophiles themselves, a single mob boss who essentially mass tortures towns to squeeze out every penny from them he can in a racketeering scheme and all of these people debatably have fewer resources than Mash.

Sad one but I gotta say it's time for him to go.

Oh man that sucks. So he has the personality of a cm but no deeds.

Cut him

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

Carlos & Cosano

Cut Mash

Edited by therealjackieboy on Jun 6th 2021 at 11:43:44 AM

"No running in the halls!"

Trust me mir, this was sad and I'll admit I spent some time twisting the whole "Well I guess he's technically extending a war" angle in my head for sometime until I accepted he's not high enough on the totem pole to pull that one. It's like 2020 Texas Gladiators where the Big Bad keeps but the one who you'd really want is the group traitor cuz of the personal stuff.

Shit...cut Mash.

So two of our earliest Lupin entries (Mash and the Count) are now gone.

Edited by ACW on Jun 6th 2021 at 3:01:00 PM

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Okay, since there was no opposition, i'm going to repropose a guy

What is the Work?

Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme is an Animated Origin Movie about Doctor Strange, retelling about how he has gotten his title and powers and his first encounter with his archenemy Dormammu. As the invisible monsters started to rampage through the city and the Ancient One and his students oppose them, Doctor Strange arrives to the for help and discovers the demonic being, who wants to plunder the Earth.

Here is the first clip to show the premise of the story:

His name is Dormammu.

Who is Dormammu?

A being, who is said to consist of corrupted magic, Dormammu have come from the world, that he had "consumed with his brutal appetite". After his attack on Earth was repelled by The Ancient One and he was sealed in the Nexus, Dormammu have plotted his escape by putting dozens of children into coma and starting to use their minds to open the veils, so he could manage to open a portal to Earth.

After Dr. Strange started to get ahold of the magic and some of the Ancient One's students were killed by the attack from Dormammu's monsters, The Ancient One took Dr. Strange and his remaining students to Nexus, where he "introduced" Dormammu to him and showcased the world, that Dormammu has destroyed. From there Dr. Strange sees how souls of the children are used by Dormammu and informs The Ancient One of Dormammu's scheme, after which he and Mordo travel to the hospital to free the children from Dormammu's grasp.

There Mordo desided to betray everybody and uses a child to travel to Dormammu and offer his help, Dormammu initially threatens to simply imprison Mordo and proceed by himself, only for Mordo to reveal that Dr. Strange is awakening the children. Agreeing for "an alliance", Dormammu entrusted Mordo to take out Dr. Strange and guide the "controlled" children to a place, where he can be released upon the Earth.

(1:50 time mark for Mordo and Dormammu's talk)

As the last of Dormammu's creatures attack the city and devour countless innocents, including nearly all remaining students of The Ancient One, Mordo kills The Ancient One himself and then fights Wong and Strange, as Dormammu is released.

As Mordo is easily beaten by Dr. Strange, dissapointed Dormammu announces: "You have failed me Mordo", before he devoured him and then stole The Ancient One's amulet, while laughing, destroying the sanctuary and putting the amulet on himself. Dr. Strange confronts Dormammu, as he encourages his monsters to spread chaos and destrution upon the Earth and eat humanity, and they battle, with Dormammu mocking Strange by saying: "You are but a child, fighting a god".

Strange nevertheless managed to find a way to beat Dormammu, as Dormammu nearly won, by absorbing him into the amulet, imprisoning him again and stopping his reign of terror.

Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

None. He was rejected before for being GDV and supposedly having an agency issues, but i rewatched the movie and can say more strongly that neither are the case presented in the movie, while he is said to be "consisted of corrupted magic", what this even means and how this affects him is never brought up, there were a lot of monsters approved in media, that were made out of evil sounding stuff, and in the movie itself it is never presented as something that could force Dormammu do evil stuff, he is presented through the movie as a creature, fully capable of making his own decisions.

Personality wise, while he is not rich and a bit flat, he still has one, whenever he speaks, it is always in threatening tones and full of arrogance and sadism, he laughed a lot furing the final battle, mocked Strange for "daring" to fight him, initially desired to simply imprison and torment Mordo, when he wanted to help him and devoured him, when he deemed him useless, after which he flied and specifically destroyed the Ancient One's sanctuary, despite it was not stated to present any danger to him now, seemengly purely out of spite.

Do they meet the Heinousness Standard?

Destroyed his own world and seeks to destroy Earth as well, influences his monsters to rampage through the city and kill a lot of innocent people, puts children in a coma and plans to use them in a painful looking ritual to free himself and devours Mordo, the moment he appeared to be useless, while he intends to eradicate humanity. I think he passes.

Final Verdict?

What do you think?

Mmm. You know what? Saying yes to this Dormammu on reflection.

Stay tuned. I might have another, similar Dormammu to relitigate soon.

Tentative to this version of Dormammu (or as my buddy likes to call him, Mephisto-lite)

Dormammu

CM Sandboxes, MB Sandboxes

Yes to Dormammu. Great job on the re-evaluation Vile!

I can double check on the Count for you ACW but the only argument I see for keeping him is being the original pedophile villain with the dozens of skeletal remains for victims: does something like that happen in Green or Red Jacket? Also I wanna be certain he's actually a rapey creep and not just trying to force a marriage for money.

Edited by 43110 on Jun 6th 2021 at 3:33:30 PM

Yes to Carlos and Cosano.

Sure to Dormammu.

Cut Mash.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread