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NOTE: The following thread was proposed by Mad About Love 97. Please give credit to them.


Like other appearance-based tropes that were cut or disambiguated, Bare Your Midriff mostly consists of chairs and ZCEs.

While there are tropes that tie into a bared midriff i.e. the Ms. Fanservice, No Dress Code or Exposed to the Elements, a crop top/half shirt on its own isn't a trope. Most examples aren't referred to in the work of question, leading to several one-handed troping examples.

Summary of Bare Your Midriff Wick Check:

  • A character is wearing a short shirt (35/77)
  • ZCE (36/77)
  • Applies to another trope (6/77)

Wick check:

The problem with Bare Your Midriff is that like other appearance-based tropes that were disambiguated, it attracts a lot of potholes or ZCEs that state "this character's midriff is exposed".

While there are several tropes that tie into an exposed midriff i.e. No Dress Code for when a character wears a crop top/half shirt in a school setting, Exposed to the Elements when a character wears a crop top in cold weather, or Age-Inappropriate Dress if a character is too old or young to wear said crop top, an exposed midriff on its own isn't a trope.

Wicks checked: 77/77

     Just "this character's outfit exposes their midriff" (35/77, 45%) 

    ZCE (36/77, 47%) 

     Applies to another trope (6/77, 8%) 
  • Mean Girls: "Most of her tops show off her belly button. How she gets away with this at school is anyone's guess." This is an example of No Dress Code.
  • Sly Cooper: Allies: ...and what a midriff it is. Especially when made to dress as a belly dancer in Thieves in Time. This sounds more like Bedlah Babe, also one handed troping.
  • The Man Who Sold the World: Huntress's outfit. The Hunter lampshades this, wondering how the hell nobody shot her there and calling it dangerous (and indecent). Sounds more like Chainmail Bikini since he's pointing out armor that doesn't protect her rather than the midriff.
  • Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind: Nausicaä at the end of Book 6 and part of Book 7, thanks to Heedra tearing her shirt off during an attack. This is more applicable to Clothing Damage.
  • Clone High: "Joan of Arc wears a black T-shirt that reveals her midriff. Even in the winter, she still wears outfits that show off her midriff." The later is more applicable to both Exposed to the Elements and No Dress Code.
  • Tropes A to C: Vicky's shirt exposes her bellybutton.
    • Along with Trixie in her Wonder Gal outfit, Veronica in her Wardrobe Malfunction, and few of the female students in Dimmsdale Elementary are like this too, the school itself has rather lousy dress code for allowing ten year olds walk around with their belly buttons revealing.
      • The former is a ZCE while the latter is another example of No Dress Code.

    Bare midriff is used for a reason(?/Total, %) 

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Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 7th 2023 at 2:58:47 PM

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#51: Mar 3rd 2023 at 8:37:58 AM

I support the disambig and taking Snicka's ideas to TLP

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#52: Mar 3rd 2023 at 8:39:32 AM

Bottom left on Bare Your Midriff's image would be an example of Tank-Top Tomboy: she's tough but we also have to show she's sexy so we'll show a little abs.

I like the idea of Exotic Midriff as a new "from the ashes" disambig target more than I like Feminine Midriff and will support it in TLP. Throw in "prehistoric aesthetic" too, as in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet

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#53: Mar 3rd 2023 at 9:45:40 AM

Feminine Midriff will be a great idea.

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#54: Mar 3rd 2023 at 12:16:50 PM

[up][up]Sure, Exotic Midriff can also include prehistoric aesthetic, though those examples will almost always overlap with Fur Bikini. Anyway, I think I'll take both ideas to the TLP then.

EDIT: I started Feminine Midriff, feel free to contribute. I'll also start Exotic Midriff tomorrow.

Edited by Snicka on Mar 3rd 2023 at 11:21:42 AM

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#55: Mar 4th 2023 at 2:50:16 AM

EDIT: I started the Exotic Midriff TLP but I got rid of it after some negative feedback (saying that it's redundant to the other TLP, that it has too many Unfortunate Implications about exotifying non-European cultures, and that it can attract a lot of ZCE that are just "non-white character in a midriff-baring outfit"); I reworked the idea as a part of the "Bare Midriffs Are Feminine" TLP, saying that in the depiction of cultures where men go bare-chested, women will wear midriff-baring clothes instead.

Edited by Snicka on Mar 4th 2023 at 7:52:43 PM

MadAboutLove97 Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#56: Mar 4th 2023 at 6:41:45 AM

Getting back on topic. Are we still going through with a disambig? I’m not a mod so I’m not sure how pages get changed from tropes to disambigs.

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#57: Mar 4th 2023 at 9:23:19 AM

I hooked a crowner to see whether we're doing that. As I said both in the thread and in the crowner's header, more tropeworthy concepts can be taken to TLP independently of this thread.

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#58: Mar 4th 2023 at 10:46:47 AM

Did renaming not show up enough for it to be listed on the crowner? (I'm partly wondering because I would like to know how much an option on TRS has to be brought up for a crowner to list it.)

EDIT: To explain myself, I'm bringing this up because it was brought up several times on the first page. And from my experience, when an option is brought up on a thread like this, it usually gets a slot on the crowner.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Mar 4th 2023 at 10:58:39 AM

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#59: Mar 4th 2023 at 10:49:24 AM

Just renaming doesn't solve the zero context/non-tropeworthiness issues, though.

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#60: Mar 4th 2023 at 10:51:59 AM

[up]So, just to make sure, stuff like that is entirely based on the mod's decision?

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#61: Mar 4th 2023 at 10:53:16 AM

[up]As Tabs said, the issue here isn't the sort of thing that can be solved with a rename, which is why I didn't add it.

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#63: Mar 4th 2023 at 10:55:27 AM

Adding missed crowner options normally isn't solely mod decision, but I do disagree with this one. ([up][up][up])

Edited by Tabs on Mar 4th 2023 at 10:56:13 AM

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#66: Mar 6th 2023 at 6:42:18 AM

There seems to be a great consensus for Disambiguation. Like I suggested on the last page, throw in Seashell Bra, Fur Bikini and Walking Swimsuit Scene among the disambiguated tropes too.

Edited by Snicka on Mar 6th 2023 at 3:44:52 PM

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#67: Mar 6th 2023 at 6:46:48 AM

[up]Those can be added. That's where the "and possibly other tropes" part of the crowner option comes in (since the contents won't be set in stone).

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#68: Mar 6th 2023 at 12:29:20 PM

Since a Disambiguation is likely to happen based on the number of votes, I created Sandbox.Bare Your Midriff as a draft for the Disambiguation page. Feel free to edit it. I already added Bare Midriffs Are Feminine to it, since the TLP got many hats and I'm planning to launch it soon.

Edited by Snicka on Mar 6th 2023 at 9:35:38 PM

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#69: Mar 6th 2023 at 1:08:27 PM

Snicka, I helped out the page and added a few more relevant tropes for the future disambig.

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#71: Mar 7th 2023 at 12:40:01 AM

Calling in favor of disambiguating.

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#72: Mar 7th 2023 at 4:09:26 AM

Since this has almost 6,000 wicks and is the sort of Chairs-y ZCE magnet we usually use bulletins for, I asked the other mods about putting a dewicking bulletin up, so one is now up. I took the Bonus Boss one down after it was determined to be a failed experiment (we already only intended to leave it up for about a month even if it didn't work out), plus I needed to make room for a bulletin regarding the LARP/ namespace being deprecated.

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#73: Mar 7th 2023 at 5:50:42 AM

Where can you view the dewicking bulletins?

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#75: Mar 7th 2023 at 6:44:14 AM

There wasn't much in the redirect, though that is done.

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Crown Description:

Bare Your Midriff attracts Zero Context Examples and examples that have no meaning beyond a character wearing a short shirt. What should be done with it? Note that tropeworthy concepts related to midriffs can be taken to the Trope Launch Pad independently of this thread.

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