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#1: Jun 29th 2022 at 10:45:49 PM

~The Mayor Of Simpleton gave others permission to launch this draft with their OP.


The problem: Fauxba Fett is supposed to be about direct Expies of the Star Wars character Boba Fett. However, the Fountain of Expies, Mountain of Problems thread suspected that it was suffering from misuse for any characters that shared superficial similarities to Fett, similar to what happened to Darth Vader Clone. I started a wick check of all wicks for the trope with categorization help from Amonimus that was pretty much exclusively done by Orbiting, Hello 83433, loserswithwifi and Yindee (so big, big thanks and almost all credit to all of them). The results were as follows:

The wick check: Here, with the quick results as follows:

  • 4/63 wicks, or 6.35%, were an invoked Boba Fett expy (the correct use),
  • 2/63 wicks, or 3.18%, were of superficial visual similarities,
  • 14/63 wicks, or 22.22%, were of superficial role similarities,
  • 2/63 wicks, or 3.18%, were of other misuse,
  • 19/63 wicks, or 30.16%, were ZCEs or unclear, and
  • 22/63 wicks, or 34.92%, were unclassifiable.

The wick analysis: Indeed, most of the non-ZCEs were just "character looks like Boba Fett". The ZCEs were a mix of "based on Boba Fett" and "looks like Boba Fett" upon a lookover. It indeed seems like Fauxba Fett is having similar problems to Darth Vader Clone.

The (possible) solution: I've pretty much got one.

  • We could disambiguate. That was what happened to Darth Vader Clone, and the problems with both are very, very similar. We could find tropes that apply to Boba Fett and similar characters, and point tropers to those instead. I am in favor of this option.
    • On one hand, this could end up being necessary if we cannot find a way to save this trope, which we may not end up doing if this is anything like Darth Vader Clone. There weren't many correct wicks anyway, and wick cleaning would also be easy at just 62 wicks. On the other hand, assuming there is a way to save this trope, we would be throwing that option or options out, and possibly destroying any good concepts that could come up in the process.

Any other possible solutions or ideas? What does everyone else think?

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#2: Jun 29th 2022 at 10:52:39 PM

The TLP for this mentioned a masked/armoured Bounty Hunter trope. Would that be a better idea than this?

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#3: Jun 29th 2022 at 11:04:15 PM

[up]I don't think there needs to be a subtrope of bounty hunter that's just "bounty hunter but wearing a mask and armor" tbh. I don't think an outer appearance alone is significant enough to warrant the separation from the main trope. too superficial of a difference

ETA: Looking at the description, a part of me thinks there might be a subtrope for a silent, Implacable Man or The Unfettered take on the Bounty Hunter, but idk if enough examples fit that exact niche and another part of me just thinks you could fit any example that would under those tropes' pages

Edited by amathieu13 on Jun 29th 2022 at 2:10:10 PM

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#4: Jun 30th 2022 at 12:03:55 AM

I’m good with disambiguating if we can find the tropes for it, but if not, I’m fine with cutting it. Any correct usage can just be moved to Expy.

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#13: Jul 2nd 2022 at 10:55:24 AM

Disambig or cut works for me. [tup]

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#14: Jul 3rd 2022 at 9:33:50 AM

Hooked a crowner to decide this.

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#15: Jul 5th 2022 at 10:24:32 PM

Calling crowner in favor of "Disambiguate, or redirect to Expy if there are not enough pages to disambiguate between."

I don't know any other tropes to disambiguate this one with so I'll just redirect to Expy for now. If we find more tropes for a disambiguation, we can undo the redirect.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 6th 2022 at 9:57:15 AM

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#16: Jul 6th 2022 at 1:27:14 AM

Previously I've suggested disambiguing between its components: Bounty Hunter, 24-Hour Armor, Mysterious Past, Shoulder Cannon, Wild Card, The Expy With No Name.

I'm indifferent with leaving it as just a redirect.

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#17: Jul 6th 2022 at 3:21:35 AM

I'd remove Shoulder Cannon and The Expy With No Name from that list, since there was almost no overlap with those tropes with what the wick check found it being used for.

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#18: Jul 6th 2022 at 4:18:13 AM

I disambiguated it based on the above two posts, since now we have more to work with than just Expy.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 6th 2022 at 6:23:17 AM

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#19: Jul 6th 2022 at 4:46:48 AM

Shouldn't take too long to dole out the wicks since they're all in the wick check.

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#20: Jul 6th 2022 at 6:53:57 AM

[up]x4 Also have it disambiguate with May the Farce Be with You

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#21: Jul 6th 2022 at 9:42:50 AM

I'm not gonna bother putting this on the projects page because there's so few wicks to begin with. I assume this'll be the next one to close?

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#22: Jul 7th 2022 at 3:33:06 AM

Wicks didn't take long to clean up, so closing.

Here's the wick check for reference purposes, since I'm cutting the sandbox:

Here we will be performing a wick check for Fauxba Fett.

Why?: As brought up in the Fountain of Expies, Mountain of Problems thread in Trope Talk, Fauxba Fett is suspected of attracting examples that are not direct homages to the character Boba Fett, but rather share superficial similarities similar to what happened to Darth Vader Clone. Is it also suspected of duplication with The Expy With No Name.

Wicks checked: 63/63

NOTE: Big thanks to Amonimus for helping with categorizing.


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    Invoked Boba Fett Expy (4/63) 
  1. Characters.Arrowverse Mick Rory: He's a heavily armored, time-travelling, space-faring Bounty Hunter, who pursues the team throughout history. Leonard Snart blatantly lampshades this within seconds of laying eyes on the guy, before even learning Chronos's profession.
    Snart: We go out for one lousy drink, and you guys somehow manage to pick a fight with Boba Fett!
  2. Characters.Firefly Other: Director's commentary reveals that he was partially inspired by Boba Fett, his ship even resembles the Slave I.
  3. Characters.South Park Phone Destroyer: Bounty Hunter Kyle wears a face-concealing helmet that has a T-shaped visor in his card art, flies with a jetpack (made from a leafblower), uses a blaster as a weapon, and one of his idle quotes is "Nothing compared to Sarlacc!". Given that the premise of the game is a bunch of kids playing dress up, it's most likely a deliberate Shout-Out in universe.
  4. Characters.Subverse: A notorious and unfettered space-faring bounty hunter clad in feature-obscuring armor whose dubious origins are Shrouded in Myth? Even Word of God says that the Huntress was explicitly made as a female expy of Fett.

    Superficial visual similarities (2/63) 
  1. Recap.Star Wars The Clone Wars S 5 E 19 To Catch A Jedi: Darth Vader Clone/Fauxba Fett: Ventress, due to the face-concealing helmet, which also distorts her voice.
  2. VideoGame.Crusader: The Silencer. Feature-concealing armor? Check. Able to carry and use an impressive arsenal? Check. Rarely speaks? Check. Mysterious past? Check. He lacks the Bounty Hunter/Hired Gun trait, though (he's a Defector from Decadence).

    Superficial role similarities (14/63) 
  1. Main.Refitted For Sequel: The Mandalorian had many ideas and plot beats that were carried over from Disney's cancelled Boba Fett solo movie. Like the movie, the series stars a stoic Mandalorian bounty hunter going on missions for a bounty hunter guild and teaming-up with other bounty hunters and mercenaries. Boba Fett himself would appear in the Mandalorian and later in his own spin-off series The Book of Boba Fett.
  2. Characters.Darkest Dungeon Heroes: He shares a lot of his traits with Boba Fett, namely his large arsenal, concealing armor, terseness, and Mysterious Past. Funnily enough, one of his four color schemes is based on Boba Fett's.
  3. Characters.Darkest Dungeon The Hamlet: He shares a lot of his traits with Boba Fett, namely his large arsenal, concealing armor, terseness, and Mysterious Past. Funnily enough, one of his four color schemes is based on Boba Fett's. Not an error, is same entry.
  4. Characters.Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger Zangyack: A space-faring bounty hunter employed by The Empire, Kiaido even looks like a red Mandalorian.
  5. Characters.Metroid Samus Aran: Samus Aran is a bounty hunter in feature-concealing Powered Armor with an Arm Cannon that has several firing modes and a mysterious past, though less mysterious after the reveal at the end of the first game.
  6. Characters.Samurai Jack Enemies: Princess Mira is a heavily armored, mysterious bounty hunter who is inexplicably awesome and has noble intentions for attacking the hero.
  7. Characters.Star Wars Bounty Hunters And Mercenaries Republic Era: Suspiciously Similar Substitute: Also, with Jango having died in Attack of the Clones and Boba not having the legendary status he would soon have, he could be seen as something of a Fauxgo Fett. He's a Badass Normal capable of matching Jedi who often Dual Wields blasters that he uses like a cowboynote , has a similar blue Color Motif and is capable of some manner of Flight, though with Tricked-Out Shoes as opposed to a Jet Pack, and have a variety of other gadgets such as wrist-mounted flame-throwers and grappling hooks. Plus, both held the title of Best Bounty Hunter in the Galaxy, though for Bane this was because Jango was dead.
  8. Characters.Star Wars The Mandalorian Character Sheet: Put him next to the legendary bounty hunter, and aside from different armor colors, the two aren't all that dissimilar—a Badass Baritone Mandalorian bounty hunter with his face hidden behind a fierce helmet, a strict sense of honor, The Stoic who has a strong personal connection to a loved one (Grogu for Din and Jango for Boba), a signature Cool Starship (The Razor Crest for Din and the Slave 1 for Boba), and a deadly force to be reckoned with. This becomes more evident when Boba himself meets Din.
  9. Characters.Star Wars The Old Republic Imperial Class Bounty Hunter: The class is clearly inspired by Boba Fett, with their Imperial affiliation representing Fett being a hired gun for Vader.
  10. Recap.Stargate SG 1 S 3 E 7 Deadman Switch: Bounty hunter, armor, exotic arsenal, distorted voice. Though Boch selectively reveals bits of his past (mixed in with lies) to gain SG-1's trust.
  11. Series.Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger: #28: Kiaido is a space-faring bounty hunter employed by The Empire who looks like a red-colored Boba Fett.
  12. Series.The Mandalorian: The titular character himself. A Mandalorian bounty hunter clad in armor, covered with weapons, and almost never seen without his helmet. Amusingly the actual Boba Fett himself would show up in Season 2 and team up with Djarin.
  13. WesternAnimation.Loonatics Unleashed: Sylth Vester has many similarities to Boba Fett, being a bounty hunter with cybernetic enhancements, with a grudge against one individual who has foiled him at every turn and accepts a contract from a Hidden Agenda Villain in order to satisfy his revenge on said individual. Unlike most Fauxba Fetts, he's rather chatty.
  14. WesternAnimation.Plasmo: Brucho. He's a former bounty hunter-turned mechanic (he actually flunked out of his bounty hunting program). He constantly wears heavy body-concealing armor in a green color scheme (to the point that he wears his helmet in the bath), and his original pilot origins had him, along with his partner Coredor, tracking down Plasmo as a bounty. Unlike Boba Fett, though, he's ridiculously chatty, as a way to emphasize his heavy lateral lisp. Also, in contrast to both Boba Fett and Coredor, he's much kinder than expected.

    Suits The Expy With No Name just as well (0/63) 

    Other misuse (2/63) 
  1. Characters.Star Wars Boba Fett: His status as the Trope Maker would have been deconstructed in an unproduced story arc of The Clone Wars. In that arc, Cad Bane would have tried to mold Boba into a copycat of Jango Fett (while he is Boba's father, he's a Fauxba on the grounds of being conceptualized after Boba) just so he could get some closure on his rivalry with Jango. This is Doppelgänger Gets Same Sentiment, as Boba is a clone of Jango
  2. Characters.Metroid Bounty Hunters: He's introduced in Metroid Prime: Hunters as having a deep resentment towards Samus and the Galactic Federation but otherwise shrouded in mystery. He gets more characterization than the other hunters, even if that's not too much. He later made cameos as a Mysterious Watcher in two separate games, fueling much speculation that he'll eventually get a starring role to be more fleshed out. The only similarity described here is having a mysterious past

    ZCE and unclear (19/63) 
  1. Main.Ace Pilot: BattleTech: In-Universe-wise the Battletech setting has had multiple Ace Pilots, with each main timeline having at least one Famed In-Story example. These include characters like Natasha "Black Widow" Kerensky, The Bounty Hunter, Kai-Allard Liao, Morgan Kell and his son Phelan Kell, Danai Liao-Centrella and Gray Noton.
  2. Main.Team Member In The Adaptation: Transformers: Animated: This generally happens to unaffiliated villainous characters like Lockdown]] and Unicron in marketing, as until recently, the toys were sold as either under the Autobot or Decepticon banner, with no third faction, so various toys of those two have been released as Decepticons, albeit only in packaging. In the case of Lockdown, his IDW version is still a bounty hunter for hire like his original Animated self, but wears the badge, because the 'Cons give him consistent and substantial payment. Meanwhile, his Cyberverse version is just a straight up Decepticon, with no trace of being a bounty hunter.
  3. Characters.Mega Man X Villains: Expy: Yes, his character design is based on Boba Fett. Why do you ask? Becomes even more obvious in X8 where his armor is the same color as Fett's. Also, he has more in common with Bass, being The Rival of their era's Mega Man who even rebel against their superiors because of it.
  4. EvenEvilHasLovedOnes.Western Animation: Implied with the Fauxba Fett Sibling Team SixSix, SevenSeven, and EightEight in Ben 10. Ordinarily, they're a group of amoral Bounty Hunters but they seem to get along with each other well enough, with SevenSeven being seen enjoying a car show with their baby sister TwoTwo on one occasion in Ben 10: Omniverse.
  5. Franchise.Metroid: Most bounty hunters, including Samus herself, to some extent or another. Sylux is probably closest to the original though.
  6. Recap.The Simpsons S 25 E 9 Steal This Episode: We see a clip of Cosmic Wars where the Yoda expy fights off a group of different coloured Mandalorians.
  7. VillainsOutShopping.Western Animation: Also in Omniverse, SevenSeven is seen enjoying a car show with his baby sister in "OTTO Motives".
  8. WesternAnimation.Dogstar: Baba Ganoosh, at least until he turns out to be Gemma's short uncle in an oversized suit of armor.
  9. Webcomic.Jix: Pratos, at least before "he" is revealed to be Aranis in disguise. Maricax's armor even resembles Fett's somewhat.
  10. YMMV.Star Wars Clone Wars: Evil Is Cool: The series introduces us to Durge and General Grievous. They are practically up there in being one of the most fondly remembered villains in the entire franchise. Both being nigh-unstoppable villains, who leave one hell of a impression upon fans. The former being the local Fauxba Fett but is even cooler than his inspiration as he's able to go toe to toe with a Jedi, while the latter is pretty much a Jedi-killing machine, striking down Padawans, Jedi Knights and Masters almost left and right.
  11. Main.Spotlight Stealing Squad: Played with in The Mandalorian despite having loads of amazing characters, the titular Fauxba Fett Mando himself is such an awesome protagonist only a handful of characters can effectively steal limelight from him (three of whom are Jedi).
  12. Main.Predator Pastiche: The ninja cyborgs from the Mortal Kombat franchise are relentless trackers/hunters inspired by Boba Fett and the Predator. This can be seen in their masked faces with dreadlock-like wires coming out the back, and their abilities which include invisibility and energy attacks, and some have (energy) nets and a self-destruct (via arm control) as a fatality. Doesn't explain which traits are like Boba Fett and which are like the Predator
  13. Characters.Battletech NG Os And Others: Green armor, check. Bounty hunter, check. Mysterious past, check. Badass, check. Awful example writing, check. Lack of context for any these, check.
  14. Characters.Transformers: The original version of this character was likened to Boba Fett, and it has colored all subsequent versions of the character.
  15. Characters.Villains From The Strider Games: He's based on Boba Fett, with his creation being inspired by Fett's Establishing Character Moment in The Empire Strikes Back.
  16. Creator.Foobar 137: Delft Phaltar, as described in "The Collar 4: Halloween", is the evil bounty hunter from Space Adventure 5 and 6, with blue and grey armor. Probably correct, but lacks context
  17. EvilCounterpart.Live Action TV: Although Jango Fett is long dead, the eponymous Fauxba Fett Din Djarin aka Mando serves as his Good Counterpart throughout the series. They’re both foundlings who were raised by Mandalorians and grew up to be badass Bounty Hunters who pilot a Cool Starship, are crack shots with blasters, have a Jet Pack and are skilled enough fighters to give even Jedi some trouble. Mando and Jango are also accompanied by skilled gunslinging female partner (Cara Dune and Zam Wesell, respectively) and both Mando and Jango adopt a child (Grogu and Boba) whom they genuinely love as sons. Where they differ is that Mando after meeting The Child grew a conscious and fought the Empire becoming a real hero in the process, whereas Jango had no such moral hang ups, killing his partner in cold blood and offered his services for Count Dooku and the Confederacy, which got him killed by the Jedi. Ironically Mando on the other hand becomes a friend and ally to the Jedi Order. The entire entry is about his similarities to Jango, not Boba
  18. SelfDemonstrating.Din Djarin: Some in the galaxy have compared me to another of my kind named Boba Fett. After I met him years later, I can see some resemblances. Maybe you'd better read his page to get an idea of what that's like. This reached a new level after I was declared an apostate for revealing my face to Grogu and his teacher; now neither Boba nor I belong to a Mandalorian tribe. Tells the reader to go to another page to find out how the two are similar
  19. Trivia.Star Wars: Fountain of Expies: Boba Fett is so popular that he's inspired other bounty hunters in fiction.

    Unclassifiable (indexes, etc.) (22/63) 
  1. AlliterativeName.Tropes F To L: Fauxba Fett
  2. Main.Bounty Hunter:
  3. Main.Fountain Of Expies: Fauxba Fett (Boba Fett)
  4. Main.Older Than Cable TV Fauxba FettStar Wars, 1980
  5. Main.Stock Shout Outs: A Super-Trope to: If an example fits into one of these subtropes, it should be on that page, not here: Fauxba Fett
  6. Main.The Newest Ones In The Book: Despite Boba Fett himself making his debut in the Star Wars Holiday Special in 1978, he rose to fame in the 1980 Star Wars movie The Empire Strikes Back, putting him right on the cutoff date for this index.
  7. Pantheon.Fictional Expies: Vile, God of Boba Fett Pastiches
  8. Pantheon.Mega Man: Vile, God of Boba Fett Pastiches (VAVA) as a Intermediate God in the Hall of Fictional Expies (House of Derivatives)
  9. QuoteSource.Live Action TV: Legends of Tomorrow: Fauxba Fett
  10. TropeNamers.Star Wars: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back: Fauxba Fett
  11. UsefulNotes.North America: Useful Notes and other articles related to North Americans and North American culture: Northern America: Fauxba Fett
  12. SelfDemonstrating.Boba Fett: It seems I have a lot of copycats running around. Since I'm out of the bounty hunting business, it's not an issue. If I still were, it would be a different story.
  13. ImageSource.Star Wars
  14. ImageSource.Video Games A To L
  15. ImageSource.Video Games M To Z
  16. ImageSource.Western Animation
  17. Laconic.Fauxba Fett: An expy of Boba Fett.
  18. SandBox.Marvel Fan 2003 Pantheon Adoptables: Din Djarin, God of Boba Fett Pastichesnote 
  19. Sandbox.Cleaning Tropes Needing TRS
  20. Sandbox.Fountain Of Expies Cleanup
  21. Sandbox.TRS Queue
  22. Sandbox.Fauxba Fett Wick Check


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Fauxba Fett is supposed to be about direct Expies of the Star Wars character Boba Fett. However, the Fountain of Expies, Mountain of Problems thread suspected that it was suffering from misuse for any characters that shared superficial similarities to Fett, similar to what happened to Darth Vader Clone. What should be done with it?

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