To-do list:
- Since Blinding Bangs is now a disambiguation page, move any examples with narrative significance to another trope, such as Eyes Out of Sight, Hide Your Otherness, or Meaningful Appearance, and cut examples that lack narrative signficance. Note that the thread decided to take no action with Peek A Bangs.
Original post:
Both Blinding Bangs and Peek A Bangs have been used for any character with eye obscuring bangs. There's personality traits lists for both tropes but those rarely come into consideration in the wicks.My solution is to disambig both tropes (Hide Your Otherness, Eyes Out of Sight, Meaningful Appearance) and split or yard new tropes based on the personality listed in the descriptions for both tropes. I didn't find many wicks for bangs that indicate shyness/aloofness, deceptiveness, or sensuality but more of those examples can be sifted out of the on page examples (I'll sort them out later).
Wick check for Blinding Bangs.
50/50
- Blog.Ask King Sombra: Cocoa Chill's eyes are covered by his mane. He doesn't seem to have any problems seeing though.
- Characters.Avatar The Last Airbender Mentors: In a flashback during her time in prison.
- Characters.Bungo Stray Dogs The Guild: The entire upper half of his face is covered by hair, though his left eye sometimes peeks through, as seen in the image for this entry.
- Characters.Case Closed One Scene Wonders: Had these in the anime flashbacks.
- Characters.Codex Equus Shinseina Pantheon: Implied, as a canon Codexverse drabble in their group entry mentions that he has an "obscuring fringe".
- Characters.DC Super Hero Girls 2019: In his civvies, Carter's Messy Hair covers his eyes, and Hawkman's helmet is an
- Characters.Earth Bound Antagonists: To the point where it can be an Eyeless Face.
- Characters.Happy Tree Friends Main Characters: His hair covers up his eyes.
- Characters.Hunger Games Simulation Lore Characters: Her bangs peek out from her helmet and cover her eyes.
- Characters.Kashimashi Girl Meets Girl: Before being revived.
- Characters.Lisa Main Characters: Her eyes remain unseen under her mop of hair.
- Characters.Mega Man X Supporting Cast: Her bangs covers her eyes. From time-to-time, you can see her eyes through her bangs.
- Characters.Mitsumete Knight: Just like his predecessor Naoto Takami from Tokimeki Memorial 1, but unlike him, doesn't have any art with full face and eyes.
- Characters.My Little Pony And Friends Villains: The tall raptorian's eyes are always covered by his droopy hair, except for a few moments where he holds it up to see better. '''
- Characters.One Piece Blue Seas: Carrot's eyes are covered by his hair.
- Characters.The Idolmaster Cinderella Girls Voiced Idols: When she doesn't have her hair styled in her trademark hawk.
- Characters.The Magic For Idiots: They reach halfway down her face.
- Characters.Valiant Hearts
- His scruffy gray hair keeps his eyes out of sight.
- His hair is quite short, but it’s long enough to cover his eyes.
- Her hair is long enough to cover her eyes.
- Her blonde hair covers her eyes quite effectively.
- Characters.Yandere Simulator Other Characters: Every one of them has these.
- Characters.Ultraseven:Not a typical trope for kappa portrayals
- ComicStrip.Knights Of The Dinner Table: Newt and Brian.
- Eye-Obscuring Hat: Just a related section wick + plus two wicks that are just eye obscuring bangs.
- Manga.Sketchbook: Tsukiyo.
- Manga.Manga Dogs: Kanna.
- Roleplay.Resident Evil Roleplaying: Rachel Commented out ZCE
- Sandbox.Characters Ace Attorney Minor Characters Phoenix Wright: In the film.
- Sandbox.Furrtwo: Just the trope's name.
- UsefulNotes.Koreans In Japan: Potholed under Yam Koo
- VideoGame.Dark Parables:Prince James's red hair covers almost half of his face, though it's not clear why this is or how he can see anything.
- VideoGame.Dragon Fable: Potholed under sheep dog-haired
- VideoGame.Suikoden V: Shigure is too lazy to move his hair from his eyes.
- VisualNovel.Brass Restoration: Being, of course, blessed with some of the staples of nearly every old-school Dating Sim Visual Novel protagonist, Ryo's eyes are obscured from the player's view by his green hair.
- WebVideo.Vinesauce Tomodachi Life: Part of a caption sinkhole.
- Webcomic.Black Haze: Lidusis has these before his Important Haircut.
- WesternAnimation.Fudencio E Seus Amigos: Under By The Light Of Their Eyes - Used often. These also reveal that Popoto has crossed eyes under his Blinding Bangs.
- WesternAnimation.Xavier Riddle And The Secret Museum: Tyler from "I Am Marie Owens" has his eyes covered by his hair.
- WorldOfWarcraft.Tropes A To B: Tauren as of Shadowlands have this as a cosmetic option.
- WesternAnimation.Home On The Range: All three of the Willie Brothers with one Peek A Bangs moment during the fight scene near the train tracks. This also applies to their horses.
- Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo Chrome Dome Empire: Under Hidden Eyes — The Blinding Bangs variety.
- Manga.Plus Sized Elf
- Laika, in all her forms.
- Hitome uses this haircut to hide her single eye Hide Your Otherness but I didn't feel like splitting the entry up.
- Characters.Elfen Lied: Another sign of when Lucy is in control; Nyuu's bangs tend to be parted whereas Lucy's tend to almost completely cover her eyes, taking on a dagger-like appearance as they conceal her face. Could go under Duality Motif
- Characters.IDROCR Angikuni Village: Lampshaded by Yuuto in the first trial. It's to hide his one eye. This is Hide Your Otherness
- Characters.Monster Girl Doctor:
- Her hair is styled in such a way to completely obscure her eyes. Even after having her hair trimmed and styled by Kay and Lorna, it still covers her eyes. Eyes Out of Sight
- Played with. Her regular human eyes are completely bare, but her hair is styled to have the bangs cover the four spider-like eyes on her forehead. Hide Your Otherness
- Characters.The Powerpuff Girls Main Antagonists: And for a good reason too. Big Billy has bangs that cover up his single eye. Hide Your Otherness
- Risk It All: Due to being in a coma for six months, Ren's hair has grown to the point that it drapes over his eyes. He keeps it out of his face with a hairclip, but he complains about how inconvenient it is and intends to get it cut as soon as he can.
- Radio.The Ricky Gervais Show: Under The Faceless—Suzanne in the animated show. Whenever they have her drawn for a story involving her, its always from behind, or her face obscured by an object, or in the fifth episode, completely enshrouded by darkness while standing in a lit doorway leading into a dark room, and later episodes just resorted to showing her with Blinding Bangs.
- NonIndicativeName.Web Original:"With some rare exceptions, examples of Blinding Bangs are not obstructing vision at all; most characters having them can see perfectly fine."
- Webcomic.The Handbook Of Heroes: Thief has bangs which cover the upper part of her face, hiding her eyes — specifically, the fact that she has six of them, as a result of her tiefling heritage. Hide Your Otherness
- Webcomic.Yokokas Quest: Kalliv's eyes aren't visible beneath his hair while in demon form, though Copycat notes after copying Kalliv that his eyesight is awful
, even without hair in the way. His eyes are uncovered while in mouse form.
- WesternAnimation.Chop Socky Chooks: Oni/Deadeye. When she's Oni they cover her Mad Eye, but when she's Deadeye they cover her normal eye. Hiding Your Otherness / Duality Motif
Wick check for Peek A Bangs
50/50
- Shadow Archetype: "...and stops above the eyes while Leonardo's is straighter and has Peek A Bangs.
- Animation.Guardian Fairy Michel:Salome's hair covers her right eye.
- Anime.Noir: Silvana Commented out ZCE
- Characters.Ascension The Eagles: [Airdan] Just the trope's name
- Characters.Brutal Legend
- Gravediggers: When you've got as much hair as they do, it's unavoidable.
- Ratgut: Sports a stereotypical Eurotrash haircut.
- Hero: One of her eyes is constantly hidden behind them.
- Characters.Fate Prototype Masters: Master of Archer— His default hairstyle as seen in material.
- Characters.Flanders Company: About half the time.
- Characters.Jojos Bizarre Adventure Stardust Crusaders The Joestar Group:'80s Hair Noriaki Kakyoin—He has a mullet aside from his bang(pothole).
- Characters.Jormungand: Schokolade —Her right eye is covered by her hair.
- Characters.Naruto Hidden Mist Village: Mei Terumi—Her left eye is often covered by her bangs.
- Characters.Noblesse Traitor Nobles: Edian Drosia—Hair covers her left eye.
- Characters.One Piece Impel Down: Head Jailer Domino—On top of wearing shades, her hair covers her right eye. She has had this haircut since she was a kid.
- Characters.Pocket God: Moon—Has one large bang that covers her left eye. Her eye is rarely seen.
- Characters.Pokemon Rejuvenation Player And Friends: Player Character— Aevis, Aevia and Ariana in previous versions. None of the redesigns have it.
- Characters.Pokemon Ruby And Sapphire: Her hair covers her left eye in her Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire design.
- Characters.Princess Tutu: Fakir's hairstyle sometimes hides one of his eyes, as it did during his Slipknot Ponytail moment
- Characters.Punch Out: In some parts of the Wii game, his bangs completely cover one of his eyes.
- Characters.Silent Mobius:
- Rosa Cheyenne: Her hair covers the right side of her face.
- Ganossa Maximillion: His hair covers the right side of his face.
- Characters.Sweet Jade And Hella John: His final design has his left eye covered by a part of his hair.
- Characters.The Frollo Show Supporting Cast: Yomika—But it's not like you can see her eyes anyway.
- Characters.The King Of Fighters 94: Chin Gentsai —In '98 through 2000 and XIII, we actually get to see one of his eyes in character portraits.
- Characters.The Legend Of The Legendary Heroes Peoples Republic Of Sphelliyet: Zohra Rom—Just the trope's name
- Characters.Thermal Operator
- Yuuki Kurasaki: Hair hides half her face.
- Hikawa Takeru: Hair hides part of his face, but the eye can sometimes be seen when he's in motion.
- Akai Tsubasa: As can be seen in the page image, bangs hide one of his eyes, though it's sometimes visible when he's in motion.
- Characters.Wolf Children: Part of his hair covers his left eye.
- Characters.Yosh: Lien—(under Blinding Bangs) Occasionally switches to Peek A Bangs later on in the story, though just barely.
- Characters.Yu Yu Hakusho Other Characters: Ruka— Her hair is always covering on of her eyes.
- DarthWiki.Project Alter: "Eve Frankenstein has a bit of this going on, her discolored, somewhat bulging eyes peering through her Peek A Bangs"
- DarthWiki.Total Drama Tumblr: Fitz's hairstyle covers one of his eyes.
- Manga.Ghost Hunt: Lin.
- Music.Saltatio Mortis: Alea's red streak has been known to turn into this.
- Quotes.Most Common Superpower: "Possibly the hottest babe of the 8-bit era, with her Veronica Lake hair (pothole) and huge bazooms."
- Webcomic.Canterlot Is Corrupt: From certain angles. Commented out ZCE
- WesternAnimation.Fudencio E Seus Amigos: Under Ambidextrous Sprite—"...this happens often; notably with Delcídio's Peek A Bangs, which always cover the eye farthest from his face."
- WesternAnimation.Major Lazer: Goosh’s always cover his right eye.
- Fashionable Asymmetry: Hanako wears her hair(pothole) to cover just the scarred side of her face. Potholed in "wears her hair.
- Characters.Captain Planet And The Planeteers: She wears her hair partially over her face. Turns out it's to hide the fact she's Two-Faced. Duality Motif
- Characters.Classicaloid: Frederyk Chopin—His hair covers his eyes most of the time, except for a select few moments when he makes eye contact with someone else. Trope slashed with Blinding Bangs
- Characters.Doubt Academy Omega Roster: Tamaki Manabe— Sports these, highlighting their generally shady personality. Using bangs to highlight deceptiveness/shadiness
- Characters.Dream Eater Merry:"Function" Jayce—Sometimes an eye is seen when it is livid in Dream Demon form.
- Characters.Flame Of Recca: Not using his hair, though. His eyes are always covered with his helmet, hat or hood. Eyes Out of Sight
- Characters.Gugure Kokkurisan: His left-eye seems to be perpetually hidden by his hair.Downplayed Eyes Out of Sight?
- Characters.Guilty Crown Main Characters:Gai Tsutsugami—After being revived, his hair covers his right eye.
- Characters.Identity V Survivors: Andrew Kreiss - The Gravekeeper—Has one of his eyes covered to increase the mysteriousness.
- Characters.Slow Damage: Towa—He has hair that covers the right side of his eye which obscures the medical patch over it.
- Characters.Tales Of Crestoria Main Characters: His bangs conceals his Stain of Guilt on his left eye. Hide Your Otherness
- Characters.The Way RPG Maker: Strata— Part of his "wannabe cool" appearance.
- Characters.Yu Gi Oh Industrial Illusions: After he obtains the Millennium Eye. Conveniently used with very good camera angles in the Awakening The Dragon season of the anime and GX to hide that one of his eyes is missing. Hiding Your Otherness
- Fanfic.I Wont Say: Beyond does the Emo version.
- Manga.Fushigi Yuugi Byakko Ibun: Under Two-Faced— Nirusha, one of the POV characters from the first chapter, has quite the marks on one side of his face and his whole body. He covers the face marks with his bangs.pothole
- Recap.Natsumes Book Of Friends Episode 17 A Chick Hatches: Isozuki no Nezumi has some of his long grey hair over his missing eye though it does not disguise that the left side of his face is heavily scarred.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 14th 2022 at 3:31:57 AM
the Retromancer
Blinding Bangs is effectively a duplicate of Eyes Out of Sight, so it can be merged instead of disambiguated.
Peek A Bangs to me looks like enough of a trope but it'd be difficult to explain, especially since it lists multiple types at once, but it can be summarized as a sign of an antisocial behavior. Not confident I can re-write the description (yard?), so if everything fails I guess the best examples can be moved to Meaningful Appearance.
Edited by Amonimus on Jun 21st 2022 at 7:20:03 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
(she/her)
Eyes Out of Sight was a new trope that was made while I was waiting to TLP these tropes. I was unsure about taking Blinding Bangs to the TRS because I think a character's who's eyes are always obscured by their is an actual trope but not that we have broader trope for that to go into I see no reason to keep Blinding Bangs the way it is now. I am fine with merging.
I don't know if Peek A Bangs can be summed in one trope. We can probably meld shyness, aloofness, and deceptiveness together but sensuality or seductiveness is another thing entirely.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 21st 2022 at 12:35:46 PM
Macron's notes
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I'm fine with the merge.
But for Peek A Bangs there's enough significance behind the bangs obscuring one eye that I think we should lose it as a trope. Let's send it back to TLP to hunt for examples with context. Maybe split the sensual and deceptive types from the aloof type too?
(she/her)
Well, regardless, it can't have the same name because it's focused the style itself and there are a lot of characters with the style just because. The trope was clearly based around the hairstyle. The personality traits seem secondary.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 21st 2022 at 2:52:18 PM
Macron's notes
the Retromancer
The names are zce-magnets, that's true.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Peeks from Under Rocks
Hiding Behind The Bangs for shy/vulnerable/secretive (not necessarily deceptive/sly)?
The Unknown
I'd rather just cut. Both have ridiculously high ZCEs rates (80% of the wick check for Blinding Bangs) and they're appearance tropes, which attract misuse like the plague. We have precedence for "cut and forgot" with appearance tropes, too.
Edited by Karxrida on Jun 21st 2022 at 1:42:38 AM
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
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I agree, except I'd rather go with disambiguating instead of doing a full-fledged cut.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 21st 2022 at 6:17:16 AM
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Should we hook a crowner? It's been 3 days.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Done.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
I wonder why disambiguating Peek A Bangs is so unpopular.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
(she/her)
People probably think Peek A Bangs has more tropable concepts than Blinding Bangs which is already covered by another trope (Eyes Out of Sight). The description already says that new concepts can be yarded though and we can move example with context from Peek A Bangs to Meaningful Appearance. It doesn't make any sense to leave Peek A Bangs alone and a rename won't be enough because the "trope" is the hairstyle.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2022 at 5:08:50 AM
Macron's notes
the Retromancer
I think people confuse Meaningful Appearance with Astonishingly Appropriate Appearance or incorrectly think it's an index, and don't want the trope to be disambiguated with it.
tbf Blinding Bangs is not 100% about personal appearance, but I think it can be redirected to Eyes Out of Sight if it already covers everything relevant.
Peek A Bangs has at least two Internal Subtropes, meaning people are likely unwilling to touch it if these aren't yarded/TLP'ed, like, right away, which isn't how TRS typically works.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
(she/her)
(Waited an extra day to call the crowner to see if the votes stabilized) Calling crowner in favor of disambiguating Blinding Bangs. Peek A Bangs will not be disambiguated because there wasn't enough consensus (1.63) to do so.
Since we aren't disambiguating Peek A Bangs, I guess we can just remove the TRS banner and focus on Blinding Bangs then?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 27th 2022 at 1:45:18 PM
Macron's notes
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Yeah, that sounds good, so I removed the TRS banner from Peek A Bangs since we're narrowing this thread's scope to Blinding Bangs.
As a side note, I starred the thread since there's nothing left to do other than disambiguate Blinding Bangs (if that hasn't been done already) and dewick it.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Double posting because I disambiguated Blinding Bangs, posted a notice on the discussion page, de-indexed it (aside from Ambiguity Index), and cut the subpages.
1322 wicks to go through.
Edit from the following day: I added a to-do list to the opening post.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 28th 2022 at 12:50:41 PM
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Just stoic wisdom.
Too lazy to do a dewickification summary this time but I added this to the Cleaning page.
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
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Under 1000
Macron's notes
Just stoic wisdom.
I've had to refile tropes under Eye-Obscuring Hat twice now, and I only did ~15 wicks.
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
...Were people misusing this trope to refer to hats instead of hair? I'd expect something like that with a Missing Supertrope or Missing Related Trope case, but in this case the related trope (well, related before we got rid of the hair trope) actually exists.
(she/her)
Well, some characters fell under both Blinding Bangs and Eye-Obscuring Hat. I usually just put examples under Eyes Out of Sight.
Macron's notes
Just stoic wisdom.
Yup. "This effect but with a hat" was what they both said, basically.
Crown Description:
Peek A Bangs and Blinding Bangs are Zero Context Example magnets and attract examples with no narrative significance. Should they be disambiguated? Tropeworthy ideas can be sent to TLP or the Trope Idea Salvage Yard.
To-do list:
Original post:
Both Blinding Bangs and Peek A Bangs have been used for any character with eye obscuring bangs. There's personality traits lists for both tropes but those rarely come into consideration in the wicks.My solution is to disambig both tropes (Hide Your Otherness, Eyes Out of Sight, Meaningful Appearance) and split or yard new tropes based on the personality listed in the descriptions for both tropes. I didn't find many wicks for bangs that indicate shyness/aloofness, deceptiveness, or sensuality but more of those examples can be sifted out of the on page examples (I'll sort them out later).
Wick check for Blinding Bangs.
50/50
Wick check for Peek A Bangs
50/50
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 14th 2022 at 3:31:57 AM
Macron's notes