Opening, bumping, but altered the header tag.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIf it’s just an examples fix and nothing wrong with the name or description why take it here? Trope Talk threads don’t often pick up steam, but I think that’s still where something like this should be addressed.
Misuse is a legitimate concern to raise a thread over. Sometimes TRS decides that a cleanup and nothing else is needed, but it doesn't have to be that outcome.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanDoes low context actually qualify as misuse, though? They're using the trope correctly, the examples are just poorly written.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessSorry, I just try to pick the best kind of problem that's available. Anyways, there's nothing wrong with the trope or its description but the half-baked examples are what I'm worried about.
Google Snake Game.If it’s not really being misused then a projects thread would be more appropriate...
Yeah, I think this would be better for a Short-Term Projects thread, since there’s less misuse and more just poorly-written or low-context examples.
back lolFair enough, I'll move it to Short-Term Projects. Now that I think of it, putting this thread in TRS is kinda overkill.
Google Snake Game.Clock is set.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanClock expired; closing.
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The title is Exactly What It Says on the Tin, and I just realized I messed it up. I made a thread just like this but it wasn't picking up steam for a week, which is why I move it here.
Anyways, the description of White-and-Grey Morality is that there are unambiguously good heroes and morally ambiguous villains. The problem is that many examples of this trope only talk about how the "bad guys" aren't bad and/or evil simply not existing (unless exceptions are mentioned) while saying nothing about The Heroes and why they're good, which is ignoring the word WHITE in its title. Meanwhile the other Shades of Conflict, Black-and-White Morality, Grey-and-Gray Morality, and Black-and-Gray Morality have both sides detailed and descripted.
I think this is a problem because not only is telling half of this trope's examples feels half-baked, it's unfair when this trope doesn't get full contexts whereas the other tropes do, and this habit of leaving out the heroes results in people thinking "no bad guys = this trope", even though that rule also applies to Grey-and-Gray Morality and Good vs. Good. If people follow this habit, then by that logic, examples of Black-and-Gray Morality would only detail the "good guys" and why they're not good while leaving out the Villains and why they're evil.
These are the examples of half-context WAGMs that are deleted for not having heroes:
Here are some examples of this trope that leave out the White in WAGM:
Here are the examples of half-context WAGM that I fixed so far (the fixes are both bold and italicized like this):
Granted, the fixes may not be perfect, but at least they mention the white side. If anyone feels iffy about these fixes and/or examples, feel free to re-edit them.
Edited by KJsixteen on Jul 10th 2020 at 8:38:26 AM
Google Snake Game.