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  • Anti-Climax Boss: Kamui in Daibanchou. It's guranteed to be at least a 3 on 1 fight in your favor, but you can have up to 6 party members during it. Combined with the fact that, though his stats are the highest of any enemy in the game, he's really no different from every other enemy you've fought up to this point, not even possessing a That One Attack like all of the other boss characters did. Generally one or two attacks from Rouga or Gou are all you need to defeat him.
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  • Awesome Music: Tons.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • With a character like Rance, it's inevitable. Plenty consider him to be a Crazy Awesome breath of fresh air from the generally uninspired Visual Novel protagonists, while just as many consider him to be an immature series of rape jokes and nothing else. Whether he's a Rounded Character who shows large amounts of depth and Character Development across the series or a Flat Character is also a recurring argument. The fact that a woman created him the way he is also often comes into play when discussing his habits and why he is like that.
    • Sill Plain is a very divisive character, with many seeing her as a fantastic Foil to the incorrigible Rance while just as many deride her as a bland and out of place Love Interest in a series that doesn't need one. This is also reflected in the character polls where, despite being the de facto main heroine of the entire series, Sill doesn't ever place very high.
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    • Outside of the Rance series, both Rouga and Tougou suffer from this. Plenty are happy to play as a hero who can actually be sympathized with and admired on a regular basis while others are annoyed by their apparent Bishōnen designs and bland "hero-type" personalities and generally find their antics boring in comparison to Rance.
  • Broken Base: Beat Blades Haruka receiving a commercial release internationally caused this. While the fanbase is for the most part ecstatic about the potential for the company to finally open itself up to foreign waters, others are disappointed that the launch game isn't a Rance title, especially due to the partnership leading to the indefinite halting of two nearly completed fan translations.
    • Fortunately this wasn't the case as Rance titles from 5D, along with Evenicle, are picked up for localizations.
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  • Disappointing Last Level: Hell in Daibanchou is a short series of battles before an easy boss fight. After the Nintendo Hard game you just played through, this comes off as a little underwhelming.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • Uesugi Kenshin actually beat out Saber on the first Visual Novel Character Poll she appeared on.
    • On the male side of things, Rick went from a character who was simply meant to serve as the Crutch Character and Always Someone Better to Rance to one of the most iconic characters in the series and Rance's best male friend by the later games. Being a Char Clone helps.
    • Shizuka is probably the earliest example, to the point where she was put into a patch for Sengoku Rance due to the uproar caused by her absence from the game, despite most of the regular cast being sidelined apart from a few cameo characters.
    • Camilla is also well loved by the fanbase, which is impressive considering she's only appeared in one game so far.
    • From the Dai games Satsu ended up becoming the most popular heroine from Daiakuji despite being only a secret route and quickly came to dominate all advertisements for the game, Gou from Daibanchou proved to be incredibly popular to the point of getting a spot in Widenyo's roster over Rouga and Retia Adolf from Daiteikoku became an instant hit from the moment her design was revealed.
  • Franchise Killer: Daiteikoku, the ambitious third installment of the Dai series, received lukewarm reception and put the future of the series into question. It is almost unanimously agreed to be inferior to its predecessors.
  • Game-Breaker: Rick in Rance IV and Kichikuou Rance, due to being level 50 with a fantastic special attack from the moment you get him and being available pretty much immediately. While these helped lead him to his Ensemble Dark Horse status, it also led to complaints about him making the games too easy, causing his following playable appearances in Rance VI and Rance Quest to make him a late game Eleventh Hour Super Power.
    • He's back to being one in IX where he's once again available from early on and is now a Lightning Bruiser with a fantastic critical hit rate.
    • He's one again in Mamatoto, where he's continues to be an insanely powerful Lightning Bruiser who is available as early as the first chapter. His only weakness, his poor commanding ability, is offset by his having the highest attack growth in the game as well as a long-reaching special attack that can take out ten enemies in a single shot. While there are party members who match Rick in usefulness, almost all of them join toward the end of the game, meaning Rick is the only one capable of being fully abused.
    • Feliss whenever she's playable by virtue of being completely immune to all enemy attacks. This reached a point where, after Rance 5D, she stopped being playable to avoid easy and boring victories.
    • Kavahuan in Mamatoto has the highest natural magic stat in the game, along with a special ability that hits every enemy on screen, which make him lethal in combination. Hunty Kalar plays the very same role in Rance IX, making both incredibly powerful units. This is balanced by the late availability of both characters in their respective games, but still doesn't stop them from steamrolling through the endgame content.
    • Kunagi and Kuga in Daibanchou are both insanely broken units. Kunagi, while having low health and stamina, has a special ability that guarantees that she'll dodge the attacks of all but the strongest enemies, and will generally avoid them as well, making her functionally invincible. Kuga, on the other hand, is essentially a slightly weaker version of Rouga with a mid-range attack instead of a short one and many more type advantages, which combined with his cheap special move that deals twice as much his regular damage and large stamina pool make him capable of one-shotting practically every enemy in the game. The kicker? While Rouga has better growth rates than either, both of them can be Character Cleared whie he can't, meaning they'll end up with higher stats than him on every playthrough following their clearing.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: Sengoku Rance is widely regarded as the best Alicesoft game period in the United States, while it is merely considered a particularly good installment in the Rance series in Japan, where Kichikuou Rance still holds the title for best in the series.
  • Growing the Beard: A given considering how long they've been around, but even their detractors have to admit that their stories have become more complex and their characters more rounded as time has gone on.
  • Heartwarming Moments: Plenty, surprisingly enough. One of the most iconic is Rance tenderly embracing Sill at the end of Kichikuou Rance.
  • Just Here for Godzilla: Plenty play the games for the gameplay alone.
  • Marth Debuted in "Smash Bros.": Widenyo was the English-speaking debut of several franchises, but special mentions go to Tsubasa and Ragou, who were cameo characters in Daiakuji from different games but appear in Widenyo in their Daiakuji incarnations, leading most English speakers to assume Daiakuji is the debut game of both, when in reality it is true for neither.
  • Memetic Loser: Bird, who almost nobody likes. This also applies to Kayblis, though he's intended to come off as pathetic in-universe as well.
  • Memetic Mutation: Whenever Sill is being discussed by the fanbase, there is a tendency to mimic Rance and act Tsundere towards her. Also, whenever Pink Mask is brought up, expect multiple people declare that "Sill's at home!".
    • Anyone who makes derisive comments about Rance is immediately assumed to be Bird in disguise trying to slander him.
  • Mexicans Love Speedy Gonzales : Eagle Douglas from Daiteikoku is incredibly popular in the US, to the point of overshadowing the less popular Sarah Britten and Katherine.
  • Moral Event Horizon: You find out something is not quite right with Oda Nobunaga. However, once the Fiend Xavier takes over Nobunaga, he orders Kouhime to be raped or killed (depending on the route), while Nobunaga watches helplessly in his own body. At that point, you want to kill the bastard.
    • The Demon King ending of Kichikuou Rance has Rance breeding humans like cattle, something far worse than anything else he's ever done.
  • More Popular Spinoff: Two major examples. The Rance series is technically a spinoff of Little Princess, but became Alicesoft's most popular series. Alicesoft itself is technically a branch company of Champion Soft, an old Interactive Fiction developer that was going defunct.
  • Narm Charm: Sex scenes are usually set to outrageously over the top rock music and tend to have hilarious dialogue that makes them hard to take seriously. Unless they're set to appropriate music (Yamamoto Isoroku's 2nd sex scene with Rance) or evil music (Fiend Nobunaga/Xavier raping Kurohime, the rape orgy of Uesugi Kenshin and Naoe Ai).
  • Periphery Demographic: Their tendency to have incredibly rich and well-developed back stories attracts a lot of people from outside the Eroge community.
    • The games actually attract a rather sizable female audience, to the point where Alicesoft gives them a small nod via special White Day wallpapers.
  • Play the Game, Skip the Story: Quite a number of people couldn't care less about the game's narrative, chosing instead to focus on the gameplay.
  • Ron the Death Eater: Sill gets some of this from fans who see her as getting in the way of more popular characters like Uesugi Kenshin pairing up with Rance.
  • "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny: The original Rance games were considered amazing at the time for being H-games that featured actually sophisticated gameplay rather than just sex scenes. By today's standards, not only are the graphics dated, but the gameplay is hugely underwhelming and boring, to the point of making the first three games nearly unplayable by modern gamers. This is being fixed by remaking them, and completely overhauling the gameplay for the first one.
  • Squick: Demon Nobunaga/Xavier raping Kurohime. There's Parental Incest and there's Villainous Incest, and then there's this. For added squick factor, Kurohime is a product of rape from the same man.
    • Lessened somewhat if you remember that Xavier is possessing Nobunaga's body at the time. It's still disgusting, but it's technically not incest.
  • Strangled by the Red String: Several see the relationship between Rance and Sill to be this.
  • Take That, Scrappy!: How else could you explain Maitrea from Mamatoto (really someone who looks identical to him) getting brutally murdered after being outed as a villain in Rance IX?
  • Tear Jerker: Sill's Heroic Sacrifice and Rance's following Heroic BSoD are legitimately heartfelt moments, and mark one of the only occasions when the player gets to see Rance in a moment of complete vulnerability.
    • Kouhime's rape scene from the same game is also made to be as disgusting as possible to make the player feel even more heartbroken.
    • Rance's mourning of Sill if she dies in Kichikuou Rance, where he breaks down into tears, places his most prized possession, a beautiful rare pink shell onto her grave and says that it always reminded him of her hair. He then admits that he always tried to reign himself in when she was around and, now that she's gone, he's not going to let anything hold him back. This can potentially lead to him Jumping Off the Slippery Slope, murdering Miki to gain her power, and destroying everything as the Archfiend.
  • That One Boss:
    • Oda Nobunaga in Kichikuou Rance. As he is a Fiend in this game, he can only be damaged by Rance, Kentarou or one of the recruitable Fiends. While this isn't that bad, the arena size of 400 means that the unit attacking him needs to have 400 troops or less in order to damage him while Nobunaga himself has over 2000 troops and is incredibly damaging. At the same time, Nobunaga sends out his two ninja assassins Gekkou and Shinobu to attack Leazas, causing them to occasionally permanently kill off one of your units between turns. One of these units can be Rance, which results in an automatic game over, making it an indirect Timed Mission.
    • Kakaro, the final boss of Mamatoto is incredibly difficult. Not only are his health points and defense much, much greater than anything you've ever fought before, but his body is separated into multiple parts besides the "main" one, all of which have different highly damaging attacks, one of which hits the entire party. While taking these additional parts out may seem to take first priority, they respawn the turn after they're destroyed, meaning the best solution is to simply ignore them and tough it out. Along with this, he spawns about five incredibly strong foot soldier units every turn and, since your best fighters will be concentrating their attacks on the main body, will only increase in number as the fight goes on. This, combined with the insane health and defense of the main body itself, once again makes the fight into a Timed Mission where the player has to figure out how to do enough damage to kill him before he wipes out your entire party with his infinitely spawning henchmen.
  • That One Sidequest: Really good characters tend to involve doing this before recruiting them.
    • For Sengoku Rance:
      • Trying to recruit Nogiku from the One-Eye house involves recruiting Akashi Kazemaru and going through a whole series of events to get Hibachi. The fact that Kazemaru has no relevance to Nogiku at all means this sidequest is also one Big-Lipped Alligator Moment. It doesn't help that trying to conquer the Akashi house means losing the first three battles against them. You cannot vassalize the Akashi house to complete this sidequest; you must conquer them.
      • Trying to recruit Hojou Sooun, especially after the first playthrough. It involves recruiting Nanjou Ran and a very long series of sidequests. The problem with recruiting Ran is that you cannot have both Sooun AND Ran in the same party. If you fulfill certain conditions before the 5th gourd has been broken, you get the Ran IF route. If you fill those same conditions after the 5th gourd has been broken, Ran dies, but you get Sooun on the next turn. The reason you can't have both is that Ran's body holds one of Demon Xavier's apostles. Once Xavier takes control of Oda Nobunaga, Gigai/Suzaku will come out of her, killing her. While this in itself may not be the worst thing, you have to wait several turns after attacking the Houjou house to even try to capture Ran. You won't be able to capture Ran until you have viewed all CG events related to Sooun's disappearance. And once you do recruit Ran, her affection level is at "Hate", which means you either have to spend several turns trying to get her affection to "Trust" or give her plenty of affection boost items. Oh, and if you fail to clear the Oil Dungeon before the Demon Army appears, Sooun will be lost for good due to the aforementioned fact about her body holding one of the Apostles. In all, a long and winding series of tasks for one of the best Divinner units... or an IF route.
      • Recruiting Seigan. You either have to either be fighting the Tenshi sect when the Honnouji event becomes available, or he joins you when the Demon Army appears. The former means you have to deal with uprisings WHILE fighting the Tenshi sect, while the latter is not a guaranteed means of recruitment.
    • For Kichikuou Rance:
      • Recruiting Aristoles Calm involves ignoring any and all combat with his unit while invading Helman, turning down the alliance with the Patton Faction (which is not only ridiculous because it gives you four very strong units, but also because Patton is one of the main characters of the entire series) and then agreeing to accept the aid of Convert Tax, Aristoles' self-admittedly shifty scumbag of a second in command who is no longer working with Aristoles at the time.
      • Recruiting Galtia in the same game requires doing the seemingly innocuous and time-consuming Martina Curry cook-off sidequest, then allowing Galtia to take four of your own territories from you.
      • Recruiting the Seizel sisters is also quite hard, though only because the dungeon you need to complete to find one of them is really hard to find.
      • Recruiting Cafe Artful. Chances are, you won't get her unless you use a guide, and even then it's incredibly infuriating. You first need to find the Lady Caravan in one of your conquered territories, while this doesn't seem so bad initially, the caravan will randomly appear in any of your territories, meaning you'll have to go through the tedious task of checking all of them until finally finding it. Then you need to do that two more times, while also having the item given to you by British (whose location on the map is a tiny pixel) and information from Ho Raga (Which costs a search point and requires you to sacrifice all of the soldiers from one of a set of Bishōnen commanders, all of whom are very good units). Even the walkthrough complains about how random and tedious the entire ordeal is.
  • Tier-Induced Scrappy: Cocona from Mamatoto has low stats and a lackluster special ability that is overshadowed by more or less every other character. While other characters balance out their weaker special abilities with strong stats or talents, Cocona is generally useless. However, her aversion to following in her family's footsteps of becoming a warrior and desire to become a chef may make this intentional.
    • Senna in Daibanchou. While she's actually really good, possessing an ability that has passive HP regeneration, high stamina and attack, and a mid range, she requires you to give up the far more threatening Kunagi to use in the national chapter. The primary reason to use her would be to see the large differences in her route and to get the characters exclusive to her route for character clears.
  • The Woobie: They seem to have a particular talent for writing these.
    • The most legendary example is Kouhime from Sengoku Rance, who experiences far more than a twelve year old ever should. She's so sympathetic that even Rance starts to act more paternally to her over time rather than his initial plans for Wife Husbandry.
    • Aristoles Calm, Commander of the Second Helman Army is also this. He's a good man who wants to rid his nation of corruption just as much as his best friend Patton does, but his love for Sheila Helman, Queen of Helman, makes him try to change it from the inside rather than start a revolution like Patton did. As a result of their different methods of achieving the same ideals, the two friends are forced to fight on opposite sides, with no hope of a peaceful resolution to the conflict. This gets taken to its logical extreme in Kichikuou Rance, where the player can save him from his canonical death and recruit him only by killing the entire Patton Faction and using Sheila as a hostage to force him into servitude. There's no way to give him anything better than a very Bittersweet Ending.

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