Follow TV Tropes

Following

Trope Pantheon Restructure thread

Go To

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#276: Oct 7th 2015 at 11:29:41 PM

Well, someone got in for Drives Like Crazy, despite that being why Roscoe P Coltrane was disgraced for. And it doesn't give a reason why she gets to be in and he doesn't. I request Roscoe's eliminating, or replacing his current disgraced role with something actually disgracable

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#277: Oct 8th 2015 at 5:45:13 AM

I don't think there is much else I can add. Where would she go with Do a Barrel Roll?

Erica Hartmann, Goddess of Cool Aerial Maneuvers and Incredibly Dirty Bedrooms (Frau, Hartmann, the Black Devil)

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#278: Oct 8th 2015 at 6:02:22 AM

[up] [tup] but dissapointed that Peppy hare isn't her High Priest.

edited 8th Oct '15 6:02:51 AM by fasoman1996

Uni cat
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#279: Oct 8th 2015 at 6:06:10 AM

Tppr@ Combat? Now I'm wonder if there are enough examples for tactics.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#280: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:22:40 AM

[up] So where precisely she should go in Combat?

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
MeeMaggot :D from Halcyon Fold Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
:D
#281: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:59:46 AM

Heads up, first rework draft for the Spy. Give me any suggestions please.

    The Spy 

OK, who's...... (Backstabs)

Gentlemen

The Spy, God of Double-Reverse-Quadruple Agents

—> "Hello again!!"
  • He has a bit of a nasty habit of seducing the mothers of his enemies and sending the pictures to them in the act to the enemy in question, using it as mental warfare. Needless to say, this is an extremely effective tactic. Except for those who don't love their mamas, but the Spy has other methods or those people.
  • Widely regarded as one of the least trustworthy individuals of the Pantheons, as befitting of his position. His catch phrase of "I never really was on your side" is a completely justified one, as countless members of the Pantheon have noted.
  • While his present aspect's loyalty is extremely indeterminable, his RED and BLU aspects which he originated from are trustworthy enough to their own teams (and them only)....
    • ....except for the Pyro and Dell Conagher, with the former being the only weakness to him and the latter despises him due to his constant sapping of his inventions. This got him immediately banned from the House of Technology, though that did not stop him. Which is probably the reason why Dell decided to employ the Pyro to keep watch of the House.
  • Has given a few advices to Pepe Le Pew if he wanted to help attract the ladies. Ironically though, the Skunk thought that he was copying him, instead he became interested in the Spy's technique: the "Stalk, then Meet" method.
    • However, the Spy had a horrible memory of doing the same method to Charlotte Dunois, because he almost got caught. If he did get caught, he would have been turned into ashes. At the same time, Charlotte fears him as well due to his sapper being a weakness to her IS unit, and the fact that he can turn into anyone in a quick second.
  • Somehow recently, he sometimes likes to hide in a cardboard box and sneak around, much to the confusion of Snake.
  • "I never really was on your side"

edited 9th Oct '15 3:49:10 PM by MeeMaggot

This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.. ∩(·ω·)∩ WAIT, is this supposed to be the mistress herself?
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#283: Oct 9th 2015 at 11:15:33 AM

[up][up] I'm Surprised that the Sniper isn't in Rivals. They had an entire update dedicated to their rivalry, in fact, Mr. Mundy is the only sniper smart enough to invent something that can counter the backstab. Mundy may be the only one who can go toe-to-toe with the spy in his game.

Also, Why no mention of This? come on Mee...

    open/close all folders 

edited 11th Oct '15 10:43:27 AM by fasoman1996

Uni cat
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#284: Oct 9th 2015 at 11:52:23 AM

Erica Hartmann has been moved from War Lesser Gods to Supportive Combat.

Also, Mildred and Angelia are now fused together.

edited 9th Oct '15 11:52:46 AM by TPPR10

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Catalyst375 Returning Browser Since: Jan, 2015
Returning Browser
#285: Oct 10th 2015 at 7:49:41 PM

Work in Progress - Suggestions and Advice Welcomed

Yhwach, Emperor of the Vandenreich, God of Soul Empowering Until Deemed Useless

  • Greater God, Potential Overdeity post-Soul King absorption
  • Symbol: Five-pointed Quincy Cross.
  • Allignment: Chaotic Evil (thinks he is Lawful something)
  • Portfolio: Adaptive Ability, Authority Equals Asskicking, Badasses, Bad Bosses, Combat Pragmatists, Curb-Stomp Battle, Emperors, Knight of Cerebus, The Thirty Six Stratagems, Your Soul Is Mine!
  • Followers: Gerard Valkyrie, Lille Barro, Pernida Parnkgjas, Askin Nakk le Vaar, Haschwalth Jugram
  • Former Followers: The Stern Ritter
  • Allies: Grahf, Father (?), 'Sensei'
  • Rivals: En Sabah Nur
  • Enemies: Genryuusai Shigekuni Yamamoto, Kurosaki Ichigo, Zaraki Kenpachi, all Shinigami, Arrancar and Hollow, Pit, Asura, Parasoul, Alucard, All Might
  • Yhwach is a unique Quincy, born with the ability "to share power with others". When he does so, "miracles" occur such as lung disease being healed and lost limbs re-grown, as the power he shares one soul to accomplish what normally cannot be done with two souls.
    • However, his ability has a price: eventually the cultivated power will return to Yhwach, a process that usually results in the death of the person he gave power to. When he was a crippled infant, this process caused people to die within a couple years, a couple months, or even a few days in some cases. If he stops absorbing power, he'll return to his crippled state.
    • He can either impart power by touch, or by engraving a "Letter" signifying an ability onto another person's soul via them taking in his blood.
  • Yhwach is the Emperor of the Vandenreich and the "Father of the Quincy", who is determined to bring about the destruction of the Gotei 13 and the Shinigami. He attempted to replicate this success in the Pantheon by invading the House of Nature and killing Yamamoto after he killed his physical body, unaware this act was against the Pantheon's rule.
  • Yhwach's status changed considerably after Bittercold overpowered him for the spot of "God of Outside Context Villain". Although he still retains his second title, it is now established that his power is ineffective against opponents who are more powerful than him. Melkor was quite happy with Yhwach being put in his place, while YHVH would have preferred Yhwach being tossed out of the Pantheon altogether.
    • Moreover, he was forced to watch as Yamamoto was "willed" back to existence by the Pantheon Akashic Records, and the Main House issued a warning to him against breaking the rules of the Pantheon again. Yhwach relented, realizing he could not incur the wrath of the Main House without being cast out completely (or worse, thrown into the Disgraces).
    • As a result Yhwach reined back his ambitions, limiting his quarrel with his Shinigami enemies to his home dimension. He is not keen on winding up in the Disgraces alongside Madara, whom he has heard he's apparently been compared to as an alternate world equivalent.
  • Many in the Pantheon were shocked when Ishida Uryu was seen by Yhwach's side, leading many to question why one of Ichigo's Nakama sided with one of his enemies. Others consider Uryu to be a clue to defeating Yhwach, as he was the only Quincy to survive Yhwach's Auswahlen of the Gemischt Quincy.
    • Additionally, he has a list of five individuals from his home world he has particular interest in and as possible threats. Three of these five individuals - Ichigo, Aizen, and Zaraki - were already in the Pantheon before him. Currently, all three stand opposed to him, although one cannot be too sure about Aizen's position...
  • Rumours circulate that Yhwach is at his most vulnerable when he sleeps at night, as that is the time of day where he consolidates his power.
    • This has led to many attempts to break into the Wahrwelt, his newly formed castle, and assassinate him in his sleep, although the Schutzstaffel have been able to avert any attempts.
  • While it is not a publicly-known fact, Yhwach is the son of the Soul King.
  • Although he is called "The Father of the Quincy" and it is believed the Quincy began with him, a certain Quincy folktale indicates he may only be this to the modern-day Quincy (beginning c. 1000 C.E), not the Quincy predating that time period:
    • Every few decades prior to 1000 C.E, Quincy were born who had no ability to absorb spirit particles or create spirit bows. These Quincy were culled when young as aberrations. The last time such a Quincy was born was over two hundred years before 1000 C.E. That Quincy was Yhwach. The next Quincy like that (Haschwalth Jugram) was born two hundred years later.
  • He is said to keep a special horse in a private stable, one which is mighty enough to withstand his reiatsu when it would bring others to their knees.
  • He used to be a frequent visitor to the House of Personal Appearance, mostly to have his mutton chops trimmed, since his facial hair has been noted to grow more voluminous within the space of even a day.
  • Aizen has rubbed it in Yhwach's face that he lost his original title and was humiliated by the Main House, but Yhwach still contents himself with the fact that he succeeded where Aizen failed.
  • Yhwach has been seen reading Romance Of The Three Kingdoms and The Art Of War, and it is rumoured he owns a copy of Lure the Tiger Out of the Mountains: The Thirty-Six Stratagems of Ancient China, since many have compared the strategies he has used against his enemies to The Thirty Six Stratagems.
  • His view on war has been seen as paradoxical. He claims to dislike conflict and preaches about peace, but war is one of his primary means of sustaining his life and growing in power.
  • Yhwach maintained his ties with Sinestro and Hades despite Bittercold's success, but he has yet to hear the end of it from the God of the Underworld: note 
    • Sinestro, on the other hand, has said nothing. Rather, he has observed that Yhwach seems more open in seeking alliances with other Gods of the Pantheon, something he rarely did before.
      • One of the first is Grahf, who is able to impart power unto other villains and often shows up in the middle of battles to offer then power (generally to mech users.) It is presumed that Yhwach sought himself as a fellow villain with the ability to empower others.
      • The second was Father. Both desires souls to gain power, and both seek to usurp the power of a God (The Truth for Father, the Soul King for Yhwach). Yhwach offered Father his assistance in future attempts. Father has yet to respond.
      • The third is "Sensei". Considered a kindred spirit and rival God, Yhwach has common ground with "Sensei" in the nature of their powers, although they share marked differences with one another - "Sensei's" "All for One" can steal and give Quirks wholesale, whereas Yhwach requires people to cultivate the power he gives before he steals it to empower himself.
  • In battle, Yhwach is pragmatic, either taking advantage of opportunity when it presents itself, or using "The Almighty" to observe the future flow of battle and turn it against his enemies or to nullify their abilities. When it is night and he sleeps, he leaves battle to his subordinates. When he intends to move against his enemies, he takes the lead himself.
  • He is uncertain how his power would affect Alucard, and in the same manner Alucard is wary of Yhwach. Either Alucard drinks Yhwach's blood but fails to kill him, potentially allowing Yhwach a direct line to absorb all the souls from Alucard (and Alucard himself), or Alucard actually kills Yhwach and absorbs his soul completely. Neither wants to see how it would play out, and Father explicitly warned Yhwach against trying it, having made the mistake himself before.
  • Yhwach has taken an interest in En Sabah Nur as a rival. Both of them are conquerors who wage war for their own benefits, and each professes to be the first of their respective races (Mutants for En Sabah Nur, Quincy for Yhwach), and each has been worshipped as a God at one point in the past.

MeeMaggot :D from Halcyon Fold Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
:D
#286: Oct 11th 2015 at 10:26:21 AM

Here is Spy's second draft. Give any suggestions ASAP.

    The Spy 

OK, who's...... (Backstabs)

Gentlemen

The Spy, God of Double-Reverse-Quadruple Agents

—> "Hello again!!"
  • Often in his free time, he goes in every temple around the Pantheon, without being caught. In fact, he is too well hidden, that the Main House doesn't notice him (he either stays invisible or goes in another disguise). Many gods have started to become very paranoid (especially Kane) due to his Paranoia factor.
    • His espionage did not last long though, due to him getting bored of being disguised as John Carmack for too long, he decided to use Haruhi instead. It only took fifty seconds for the real Haruhi to reveal the Spy's appearance. However, rather than kick him out horribly, Haruhi decided to allow the Spy to enter the Main House, but under three conditions:
      • NEVER reveal any info to any god regardless of alignment.
      • When entering the House, stay invisible and check if anyone is following you.
      • Follow Haruhi.
    • As a result, he accepted such ordeal, though he is still pretty embarrassed on how she found him out that quickly.
  • He has a bit of a nasty habit of seducing the mothers of his enemies and sending the pictures to them in the act to the enemy in question, using it as mental warfare. Needless to say, this is an extremely effective tactic. Except for those who don't love their mamas, but the Spy has other methods or those people.
  • Widely regarded as one of the least trustworthy individuals of the Pantheons, as befitting of his position. His catch phrase of "I never really was on your side" is a completely justified one, as countless members of the Pantheon have noted.
    • He is also known as one of most annoying spies to take down in the Pantheon. If he is being chased, he can either turn invisible or disguise as another person. And if someone thinks they got him? He probably used the Dead Ringer to fool you.
    • His characteristics followed by his expertise in espionage (remarkably equal skill with Solid Snake) has gotten him the complete hate from every single robot deity due to being machines, in which his sapper can make short work of them, and that the information they have on their databases can be tampered or worse, spread around the Pantheon. Its not only that though, even snipers around hate him due to his habit of tricking, backstabbing and owning every sniper in existence.
      • Speaking of snipers, the only sniper that can outsmart and outmaneuver him is non-other than Mr. Mundy. He curses the Australian for creating a shield meant to fend off his backstabs. Due to this, many snipers and archers have bought said item and used it ever since. However, that doesn't stop bullets though.
  • Has gained an "ally" of Nova Terra for many reasons: They are very well hidden from the Pantheon, they are very dangerous, and that their sides are a little confusing, though Nova has truly changed at the end. Ironically though, she complains that the Spy keeps on mocking her "Unreleased Projects".
    • The Spy is also accompanied by another Manipulative Bastard, Revolver Ocelot. They both love changing sides and how they are able to extract information without getting caught. Ocelot sees The Spy as a potential weakness to Snake, though the The Spy refuses to kill or even provoke him.
  • While his present aspect's loyalty is extremely indeterminable, his RED and BLU aspects which he originated from are trustworthy enough to their own teams (and them only)....
    • ....except for the Pyro and Dell Conagher, with the former being the only weakness to him and the latter despises him due to his constant sapping of his inventions. This got him immediately banned from the House of Technology, though that did not stop him. Which is probably the reason why Dell decided to employ the Pyro to keep watch of the House.
    • For the Scout however, he has a somewhat love-hate relationship with the Spy due to being a bigger Jerkass than him and the fact that, since he seduced his mother, he is officialy his dad.
  • While he does love to make a "visit" to every single temple in the Pantheon (hell, he's even glad when he visited Giygas' temple), the only gods that he will NEVER meet is The Slender Man and recently Raul Menendez. The former is just too bloody creepy to begin with and the latter brain-manipulated him into killing his teammates and invading the main house. Due to the aformentioned reasons, he will never attempt to have contact ever with them.
  • Has given a few advices to Pepe Le Pew if he wanted to help attract the ladies. Ironically though, the Skunk thought that he was copying him, instead he became interested in the Spy's technique: the "Stalk, then Meet" method.
    • However, the Spy had a horrible memory of doing the same method to Charlotte Dunois, because he almost got caught. If he did get caught, he would have been turned into ashes. At the same time, Charlotte fears him as well due to his sapper being a weakness to her IS unit, and the fact that he can turn into anyone in a quick second.
  • Somehow recently, he likes to hide in a cardboard box and sneak around, much to the confusion of Snake.
  • "I never really was on your side"

edited 11th Oct '15 7:07:53 PM by MeeMaggot

This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.. ∩(·ω·)∩ WAIT, is this supposed to be the mistress herself?
GM_3826 (Not) A Game Master from Ylisse Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
(Not) A Game Master
#287: Oct 11th 2015 at 11:03:38 AM

@The Catalyst Could we please just stick with one trope titles? I mean, I'm fine with multiple titles, but not if they each have more than one trope.

@Mee Maggot Use the folder control.

Ore-O Unbroken Bond from Alrest (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#288: Oct 11th 2015 at 11:11:15 AM

    open/close all folders 

edited 11th Oct '15 11:11:51 AM by Ore-O

"I treasure every day with you, darling." "No need to be so sappy, love." "You know that's how she is, Nia." - AU!Pyra, Nia, Mythra
r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#289: Oct 11th 2015 at 12:59:55 PM

@The Spy: He, the Pyro, and Heavy Weapons Guy got involved in a race with Sonic and other Sega characters. In this video, Pyro is in the car, Heavy Weapons Guy is in the boat, and Spy is in plane (Spy also shows up for the All-Star Move).

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#290: Oct 11th 2015 at 1:39:03 PM

@Spy still no mention of This...

Wonder how many Gods can turn invisible like him?

And you could make something out of This..?

Uni cat
MeeMaggot :D from Halcyon Fold Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
:D
#291: Oct 11th 2015 at 5:15:05 PM

Ummm, faso its in the beginning of the folder....

Can anyone help me think of other enemies and allies for Spy. I need to finish him ASAP.

edited 11th Oct '15 7:26:08 PM by MeeMaggot

This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.. ∩(·ω·)∩ WAIT, is this supposed to be the mistress herself?
shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#292: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:57:29 AM

Guys. I was browsing through the House of Life & Death, and I discover that Don't Fear the Reaper isn't present. I suggest to pothole that trope into Death of The Endless's profile, with her title as "Benevolent Anthropomorphic Personification of Death". It would separate her from the rest of the AP from that place. What do you guys think?

[down] So you suggest the Discworld version of Death get the trope?

edited 12th Oct '15 8:25:31 AM by shatterstar

GM_3826 (Not) A Game Master from Ylisse Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
(Not) A Game Master
#293: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:11:55 AM

@shatterstar Well, uh, she's mostly benevolent, sure, but there was that one little freakout after someone suggested she wasn't the reaper of all men...

There are other examples in fiction who are just as good, and a few (such as Discworld's Death, which had a whole book dedicated to the trope) which fit it even better. That isn't even bringing up Manny Calvera.

edited 12th Oct '15 8:12:07 AM by GM_3826

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#294: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:16:25 AM

[up][up] I'm kinda iffy on the endless inclusion, since they have short profiles and don't do much outside of their role at their respective thing.

Same thing with the Horsemen. Why do they get the chance to be in without a trope? That's unfair... (Granted, there are a lot of gods who are tropeless)

edited 12th Oct '15 8:16:53 AM by fasoman1996

Uni cat
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#295: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:31:03 AM

[up] Chaos Gods, Lucifer, most deities in House of Food don't have trope titles. Though, we could Just merge all four Horseman and Plot Hole the actual title.

[down] Ok. Though, we can just merge the profiles and give them Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

edited 12th Oct '15 8:38:22 AM by WhirlRX

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#296: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:34:36 AM

[up] I think he means that the Horsemen are just "X the Horsemen". They don't have a position or anything. They are just in.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#297: Oct 12th 2015 at 9:34:49 AM

[up][up],[up]I'd honestly just replace the Shitternatural ones with better ones. Like Strife, War, Fury and Death.

[down]Nope, it's just that 95% of depictions of them get it wrong. It's Conquest, War, Famine and Death. The italicized ones are the two who always get changed.

Plus, the original Fab 4 don't really have that much of a personality (that and Conquest is also heavily implied to also be Jesus, or the Antichrist)

edited 12th Oct '15 10:02:07 AM by BlackSunNocturne

Ore-O Unbroken Bond from Alrest (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#298: Oct 12th 2015 at 9:56:37 AM

[up]I guess the original horsemen are out of the question, by Jesus Taboo.

"I treasure every day with you, darling." "No need to be so sappy, love." "You know that's how she is, Nia." - AU!Pyra, Nia, Mythra
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#299: Oct 12th 2015 at 10:12:41 AM

I say keep the Supernatural Horseman.

Catalyst375 Returning Browser Since: Jan, 2015
Returning Browser
#300: Oct 12th 2015 at 1:48:18 PM

[up][up]

The original Horsemen would have had Conquest; I believe Pestilence was the add-on to replace Conquest.

I think the Supernatural Horsemen are in the Pantheon because 1) they actually showed up during the Apocalypse in that show, and 2) are one of the modern interpretations that reflect what the Horsemen are.

So yes, keep them. The most one should change about them would be to group the four of them together, even in Death is more prominent overall than the rest of them.

edited 12th Oct '15 1:50:14 PM by Catalyst375


Total posts: 6,851
Top