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Edited by Twiddler on Aug 6th 2023 at 11:53:14 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#21202: Jun 27th 2019 at 7:38:39 PM

In line with whole "Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait" clean-up, please cut the Internet Backdraft entry on the YMMV page for The Amazing Atheist.

whizzerd Transcender of Gender from Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Transcender of Gender
#21203: Jun 28th 2019 at 3:13:18 AM

Requesting a removal of the Internet Backdraft pothole in the Spell My Name With An S example on Final Fantasy VII, as Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait.

they/them || "Forgive me, regent of queer amphibians" - Lt.BGob
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#21204: Jun 28th 2019 at 6:28:07 AM

Since Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait.

Please remove the entry on Game of Thrones S8 E6: "The Iron Throne"

Also in the second Hilarious in Hindsight entry. Change "Considering the amount of Internet Backdraft it caused"

and make it " Considering the amount of backlash it caused"

Edited by miraculous on Jun 28th 2019 at 6:30:27 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#21205: Jun 28th 2019 at 6:38:11 AM

At Spider-Man, please change Other 616 Characters to Other Earth-616 Characters

At X-Men, please do the same, and also tweak Dark Beast's entry as follows:

  • Dark Beast: This Evil Doppelgänger of the kind-hearted Henry "Hank" McCoy" originally hails from the Age of Apocalypse. Initially the Bastard Understudy of Mr. Sinister, Dark Beast earned a reputation as a sadistic monster in Apocalypse's concentration camps for his cruel experiments which tortured and killed many, giving him the nickname of "Beast", which he liked enough to mutate himself to better fit the moniker. When Dark Beast was brought to the X-Men's world, he set about killing everyone the good Beast cared for and continued his monstrous experiments on innocents. With his most heinous actions being to create a machine that fed off Hank's lifeforce while keeping him in unspeakable agony, in addition to his experiments on children, Dark Beast eventually attempted to foster a war between the X-Men and S.H.I.E.L.D.. When exposed and dying from experimenting on himself, Dark Beast attempted to initiate a bomb to take the X-Men with him simply out of spite.

At Complete Monster, please replace the final 2 sections (Resolved issues and never-again) with this:

Resolved Items

Please do not bring up characters that have already been discussed. It wastes our time. Any discussion that has been concluded is permanently shelved unless:

  • A new work in the same continuity is released featuring said character (alternate continuities don't count as they are treated as separate characters. This also means that if the discussion on Character from Universe A is closed, it doesn't apply to the same character in universe B, C or D).
  • The person bringing up the discussion again proves that there was evidence that was not brought up in the discussion before. If people don't use the Search Function to see if it was brought up they get a warning to start with, repeated offenses result in suspension.
  • The character reappears.

This rule especially applies to the characters on following list, which will be edited as needed and may include characters judged to be a CM or not to be a CM:

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Special Cases

Definitely a CM

  • Berserk: Griffith/Femto (He was selfish even before getting tortured, none of his crimes are treated as justified by said torture, and he has shown no indication that he can be redeemed, even himself admitting he feels no regret for anything. Any other interpretation relies on Alternative Character Interpretation, which isn't relevant to being a Complete Monster.)
  • Fullmetal Alchemist: Shou Tucker (Passes the heinous standard easily as, despite having fewer resources than other villains, he subjected his 4 year old daughter and wife to a Fate Worse than Death, an action which was treated in-universe with horror.)
  • Infinite Crisis: Superboy-Prime (As it stands now, he has been definitively shown as a CM.)
  • Harry Potter: Bellatrix (Her relationship with Voldemort isn't love, thus not disqualified. She doesn't love Voldemort himself, she views him as the embodiment of her own Fantastic Racism).
  • Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater: Volgin (His "love" for Raikov is nothing but possessive desire, and does not disqualify him.)
  • Naruto: Hidan (Makes the most of his relatively limited resources; notably sadistic; Naruto as a whole doesn't have such a high standard to prevent Hidan from counting.)
  • Toy Story 3: Lots-o'-Huggin' Bear (Lotso is proven to be a Manipulative Bastard and his Freudian Excuse does not justify his crimes during the movie. Also, Woody states that his former owner didn't abandon Lotso so much as Lotso abandoning her.)

Definitely not a CM

Edited by ACW on Jun 28th 2019 at 1:29:36 PM

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#21206: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:16:11 AM

Literature.The Vampire Diaries contains the lines

Please remove "See Dojikko." and the entire Dojikko line.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#21207: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:46:29 AM

[up][up]Dark Beast is actually an Evil Doppelgänger

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#21208: Jun 28th 2019 at 10:30:40 AM

[up] Changed.

Reorganization of a tree at Literature A To F:

  • Deptford Mice series:
    • Jupiter is a powerful sorcerer and the Big Bad for the original trilogy. Born as a deformed kitten named Leech, he grew envious of his older brother and hated him for possessing magical powers he longed to have. After he lets his brother die in a fire, he gains control of his body and later becomes a malicious god-like entity. With hundreds of rats at his disposal, Jupiter forced his army to dig underground so he could unleash the Plague onto the world, and allowed his rats to slaughter dozens of innocents. When his plans to unleash the Plague fail and his spirit is trapped in limbo, he cajoles Madame Akkikuyu to try and resurrect him, and even convinces her to bring a corn dolly to life, which later went on and murdered two Fennywolder mouselets. Once his spirit was released, Jupiter quickly took control of a power station and started to freeze the city. After gaining more power, he brainwashes Morgan into bringing his horde of rats to the station so he can kill them all and use their spirits as his new soldiers. He then attacks Audrey Brown's friends and family, killing several of them all while he attempts to destroy the sun and start a new ice age. A savage, bloodthirsty cat who demanded to be worshipped by all, Jupiter only cared about killing his brother and destroying the world, no matter how many innocent lives were lost or how many loved ones he chose to neglect.
    • Deptford Histories:
      • Lady Morwenna, from The Oaken Throne, is the traitorous handmaiden for the Starwife and the High Priestess for the Hobbers. After years of planning, Morwenna betrays and kills the Starwife before ordering Rohgar and his legion of bats to destroy Greenreach; anyone who survived was fed to her pet toads. Seeking the Silver Acorn, Morwenna also has the bats bomb Ysabelle's hometown of Coll Regalis, before ordering the Hobbers to hunt her and her friends down and kill anyone who gets in their way. After the Hobbers and bats fail, Morwenna finds Ysabelle herself while posing as a good Samaritan, and later steals the Acorn from her and tries to feed her to her toads. With the Acorn in her possession, she wastes no time betraying and killing Rohgar, and once Hobb is resurrected, she immediately tries to use him to kill Ysabelle. A cunning squirrel who enjoyed hearing her victims scream, Morwenna stands out as being one of the few villains in the series who resurrected a demon and nearly used him to Take Over the World.
      • Wendel Maculatum, also from The Oaken Throne, is a traitor in disguise and the High Priest for the Hobbers. Posing as a comical jester, he traveled alongside Ysabelle and her group in hopes of acquiring the Silver Acorn. After separating from her group, he and his Hobbers kidnap or kill her and her friends before he uses the Acorn and the blood of three dead squirrels to summon Hobb. He and his Hobbers constantly stalk and taunt Ysabelle's group as they travel through the woods, even going as far as throwing a mouse's head at them just to scare them. When his true identity is discovered by Tysle Symkin, the former immediately murders the latter and flays his corpse, leaving it for Ysabelle's friends to find. His Hobbers later attack and destroy a stronghold full of warriors; while fleeing with Ysabelle's group, he finally reveals his identity and gloats how Ysabelle and her friends are doomed, and nonchalantly taunts Giraldus over Tysle's death. Even after Wendel dies, he reappears as a ghost just to kill Vesper out of spite and to fulfill a curse he placed on him earlier.
      • Thomas: The unnamed High Priest of Sarpedon is the leader of the Scale, which longs to resurrect the serpent god Sarpedon, also known as Suruth Scarophion and Gorscarrigern. Seeking nine fragments of a jade egg, the high priest and his vast Scale army scourged the world and killed anyone in their path. After running into the Calliope, he capsizes the ship and kills hundreds onboard before heading to the Temple of the Twelve Maidens and massacring everyone in and around the temple, leaving their defiled corpses to be found later. After acquiring the seventh fragment, the high priest and his army head to Hara, where he attacks the city and slaughters thousands in hopes of finding another fragment. Once the high priest steals the last two fragments from Thomas, Woodget, and Simoon, he takes them all to the Black Temple so he can resurrect Sarpedon and offer them to the god as a sacrifice. When Thomas and his friends greatly damage the high priest's army, he chases after Thomas's crew using a statue possessed by Sarpedon's spirit, longing to kill them out of spite.

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falcontalons from Earth-2 Since: Apr, 2019
#21209: Jun 28th 2019 at 11:07:04 AM

EDIT: Never mind.

Edited by falcontalons on Jun 28th 2019 at 11:11:01 AM

mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#21210: Jun 28th 2019 at 2:14:23 PM

Following on from my last post, I stuck DarthWiki.Fallen Creator in a sandbox to clean up grammar, formatting, and indentation errors, as well as trimming Word Cruft (particularly Examples Are Not Recent violations). I haven't added or deleted any examples; that seems like something for a discussion thread or cleanup project.

The "tidied up" version is at Sandbox.Fallen Creator; could a mod please swap it in for the current DarthWiki.Fallen Creator page? If/when this is done, I'll cutlist the Sandbox/ page.

Edited by mlsmithca on Jun 28th 2019 at 5:14:35 AM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#21211: Jun 28th 2019 at 2:58:09 PM

This is gonna bug me, so please move Crossovers to the end of Fan Works.

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rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
he/him | Image Pickin' regular
#21212: Jun 28th 2019 at 4:24:03 PM

7[up] Ken Wheatley's name shouldn't have a period after it and Fridge Horror should be linked.

Keet cleanup
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#21214: Jun 28th 2019 at 7:46:18 PM

Under Cloud Strife's folder in Final Fantasy VII: Playable Characters:

  • Depending on the Writer: Cloud ranges from self-doubting and insecure AntiHero to a cocky and confident {{Badass}}, sometimes in the same appearance. Justified due to the two or three personas he's adopted and come to terms with, an entirely consistent personality is probably not going to result from this.

Badass is under Definition-Only Pages. Please replace "{{Badass}}" with "badass".

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#21215: Jun 28th 2019 at 7:58:11 PM

On the YMMV page for The Bible, please cut the Internet Backdraft entry as it's now considered Flame Bait.

mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#21216: Jun 28th 2019 at 8:41:47 PM

Thanks for swapping in the sandbox version of DarthWiki.Fallen Creator... inevitably, I've just noticed a few mistakes in the first of the two second-level bullets for Frank Miller (who has the first entry in the Comic Books folder). It should read as follows:

In the meantime, I'll cutlist the Sandbox/ page. Thanks again!

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#21217: Jun 29th 2019 at 1:11:51 AM

Slight rewrite for:

  • Black Sails: Edward "Ned" Low, captain of the Fancy, outdoes any other pirate in series for evil and cruelty. In the opening scenes of season 2, Low waylays a ship called the Good Fortune that peacefully surrenders, but upon finding a valuable hostage on the ship, Low has the crew massacred and personally shoots the captain dead as the man pleads he has a family. Low sets up shop at Nassau and tries to intimidate the head of business Eleanor Guthrie with a speech of how his crew knows Low is a monster. He later fantasizes about raping Eleanor to within an inch of her life. When his quartermaster, Meeks, tries to ally with Eleanor, Low tortures and beheads him in full view of Eleanor's entire bar, then kills her bodyguard when the man tries to make him leave. Low makes clear he will eventually come for Eleanor and confesses he is a man driven solely by cruelty and instinct that he often surrenders to.

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Khugol Since: Nov, 2018
#21218: Jun 29th 2019 at 1:25:50 AM

I think the poor little Christina Hendricks page should be updated with her filmography (I'm not here to gush).

MysteriousStranger from We Are Everywhere Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#21219: Jun 29th 2019 at 4:07:42 AM

The Complete Monster page for Resident Evil describes Excella as Wesker's "girlfriend". I think "Ignored Enamoured Underling" is really the best description of her. Or The Dragon if we want to compromise. Just because she insists she will be Wesker's "Queen" and puts her hands all over him when he physically pushes her away does not make her his girlfriend.

whizzerd Transcender of Gender from Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Transcender of Gender
#21220: Jun 29th 2019 at 5:01:33 AM

Requesting a few more edits to the last YMMV pages that have Internet Backdraft, which is now Flame Bait.

Thanks in advance.

they/them || "Forgive me, regent of queer amphibians" - Lt.BGob
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#21221: Jun 29th 2019 at 6:51:59 AM

Spiderman Far From Home was relased in China and japan yesterday.

Could I request that the pages be unlocked since its no longer an unrelased work.

Edited by miraculous on Jun 29th 2019 at 6:52:33 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#21223: Jun 29th 2019 at 7:22:45 AM

[up]Thank you.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald from US Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Short-Term Projects herald
#21224: Jun 29th 2019 at 8:43:12 AM

Given that his death was nearly 4 years ago, is it worth unlocking Creator.Satoru Iwata?

Contains 20% less fat than the leading value brand!
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#21225: Jun 29th 2019 at 10:13:28 AM

At Western Animation, for Jayce, for Saw Boss, please change "get rid of him and his companions," to "get rid of him and his companions, the Lightning League,"

Also, for the Jonny Quest stuff, for the intro, please change "Many" to "Several".

EDIT: At The X-Files, please cut the last sentence of Cecil's entry.

Edited by ACW on Jun 29th 2019 at 5:30:47 AM

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