Albums worthy of receiving their own TV Tropes article?

In a similar vein, Rush's 2112. Was the first massively successful prog album of the 80s, codified the trend of epic by epic rocking standards rock operas arranged in imitation of classical suites, and Temple of Cyrinx is practically one of the most famous prog songs out there.

Plus, Clockwork Angels already has an article.

Should we aim for trying to fill in "significant" albums first or just kind of write in whichever ones strike anyone's fancy?

If we have to, just go with "significant".

Overexposed, Hands All Over, V, and the other Maroon Five albums... if they don't have them already. :D

I would also prefer everyone to start off with the significant albums first, then move on to the others. In fact, that is why I made that long list at the start of this thread, but few people seem to have picked up upon that.

I even made special pages with lists of music albums we could need (though I don't always agree with the choices, it does give us an inkling of what albums are still popular among many people and would definitely attract interest from outside TV Tropes as well), much like the film lists we have on this site:

• Classic Albums

• National Recording Registry

• Time All Time 100 Albums

edited 12th Oct '14 10:43:14 AM by Patachou

I'm late to the discussion, but I seriously think that it should just be whatever anybody wants to write about. Standards of 'significance' are merely measures of popularity. I would much rather see limits based upon which albums are conceptually interesting enough to deserve their own entry, (Decided by group discussion on the forums) rather than mere popularity. Besides, what constitutes significance is very varied from person to person. I would probably call Taake's Nattesid Ser Porten Vid a 'classic' album, for its significance and respect within the black metal community, but there's likely quite a few people here who have never heard the album at all. What I would call a classic, another troper would probably consider trash, and vice versa.

As for albums that I think deserve an article, despite its entry-level nature, In The Aeroplane Over The Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel certainly deserves an entry. You won' find it on any mainstream 'top 100 albums' lists, (as by their nature and need to sell copies/get clicks, they are prevented from listing anything that any of their potential readers may not have heard of) but it just tells a certainly trope-worthy story, and has exactly the sort of interesting ideas that deserve to be written about as more than a mere brief entry in another article.

edited 20th Oct '14 6:26:52 AM by CardsOfWar

I only said that I would prefer the significant albums to have their own pages, not that these should absolutely receive priority on less famous albums. I'd rather have someone who absolutely adores a certain album and writes a great passionate article full of tropes and interesting information that encourages other readers to go and check out that particular album than a page that is just copy pasted from Wikipedia with two tropes, just to add something for good measure.

I've read some great entries by artists or albums I never heard of and I've added albums by artists I'm sure not all music fans are familiar with.

It might be nice to have some classic albums by musicians outside the US or the UK too. So far we only have three albums by the German band Kraftwerk and two by Björk.

Currently, I'm working on adding the major albums by The Beach Boys, The Beatles, Pink Floyd and The Rolling Stones. After that, who knows?

@ bluesno1fann "After that The Who knows?" We could use some more albums by The Who too.

Meanwhile... since the last time I summarized them here, some new albums have been made the past weeks:

• Aftermath by The Rolling Stones.
• The Beatles Anthology by The Beatles.
• Between the Buttons by The Rolling Stones.
• Blood & Chocolate by Elvis Costello.
• Blue Train by John Coltrane.
• Closing Time by Tom Waits
• Creatures of the Night by Kiss.
• Discovery by Daft Punk.
• Fear of Music by Talking Heads.
• Giant Steps by John Coltrane
• A Hard Day's Night by The Beatles.
• Help! by The Beatles.
• Led Zeppelin (1969) by Led Zeppelin.
• Let It Be by The Beatles
• Let It Bleed by The Rolling Stones.
• Let Love In by Nick Cave
• Magical Mystery Tour by The Beatles.
• The Man Who Sold the World by David Bowie.
• Motel Shot by Delaney & Bonnie & Friends.
• Music from "The Elder" by Kiss.
• My Favorite Things by John Coltrane.
• On Tour with Eric Clapton by Delaney & Bonnie & Friends.
• Otis Blue by Otis Redding.
• Outlandos d'Amour by The Police.
• The Piper at the Gates of Dawn by Pink Floyd.
• A Saucerful of Secrets by Pink Floyd.
• Siamese Dream by The Smashing Pumpkins.
• Some Girls by The Rolling Stones
• Something/Anything? by Todd Rundgren.
• Sunflower by The Beach Boys.
• Talking Heads: 77 by Talking Heads.
• Tattoo You by The Rolling Stones
• Their Satanic Majesties Request by The Rolling Stones.
• Unmasked by Kiss.
• Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd.
• Yellow Submarine by The Beatles.
• Zoot Allures by Frank Zappa.

A special thanks to bluesno1fann, Mark Lungo, TrustBen, Zennistrad, Xydux, MrMatt, Vic George 2011, Mr Lavisher Moot and m8e for enrichening our albums list.

edited 1st Nov '14 11:17:24 AM by Patachou

Yep, there needs to be more albums by The Who done. Particularly The Who Sell Out. And just added Tattoo You.

Just added Out of Our Heads. There needs to be more tropes on it though, as well as more crosswicking.

We have one for Daft Punk's Discovery? That's gonna be awkward if someone makes an article for the Electric Light Orchestra album of the same name.

In th naming, we can just do the Wikipedia thing.

Discovery (Electric Light Orchestra album) rather than Discovery 1 and Discovery 2.

For other works in the same media that share names, the default is to distinguish them by the year they came out. So, Discovery (1979) for the ELO album, and Discovery (2001) for the Daft Punk album.

I suppose turning Music.Discovery into a disambiguation would be necessary there.

edited 5th Nov '14 2:09:42 PM by Odd1

Animals and The Final Cut by Pink Floyd has now been added.

edited 6th Nov '14 8:31:29 PM by bluesno1fann

Alright, a day or two ago I glanced at a lot of these albums, and while in general they are decent starts, they really need to be cleaned up a bunch. Zero Context Examples abound, the descriptions are often grammatically weird, the formatting is wrong on a lot of the pages (e.g. song titles italicized when they should be in quotes), YMMV and Trivia items on the main pages...

It's great that we have these articles now, but do be careful when you're editing. We might need to start a coordinated effort to clean these pages up. I don't have firsthand knowledge of all of these albums, and I also don't have the time to clean all of them up.

edited 6th Nov '14 2:43:27 PM by Odd1

Just finished up King Diamond's Abigail. I think I got the plot mostly correct.

Hoping it doesn't sound too praise-heavy (like a review). I'm also not sure if it needs any spoiler tags (what's the etiquette regarding album storylines?)

edited 6th Nov '14 11:40:38 PM by Alucard

I would say use them just to be safe. Virtually nothing is lost by way of their inclusion, and you might prevent some poor sap from having his listening experience spoiled.

I should get to making some album articles of my own, instead of just sitting back and giving useless feedback...

Once I get some free time that is not occupied by something else, I'll get to do the articles on Björk's other albums.

About the confusion between albums with the same name like "Discovery" by Daft Punk and ELO: we've already had some ambiguous album titles and titles that are the same as a band or an artist. Indeed, we solved it by putting the name of the artist and the word album between brackets: Blue is a band. Blue (Joni Mitchell Album) is the album by Joni Mitchell.

However, I and 11 others have tried to make our point across that the creation of a new namespace Album/... would solve a lot, but the discussion never seems to amount to something, people keep arriving late in the discussion to make and ask the same remarks and questions that have already been answered or covered several times before by other tropers. Some keep wondering how it would be possible to trope music albums, even though at this point we already have more than 200 albums covered. Others wonder who would be interested in albums, which is again a strange question seeing that we also have articles about fanfiction, where the interest rate for that topic must be far lower worldwide than those for music albums. At this rate we're not going to get anywhere soon.

We started the discussion here, if you're interested: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13345901180A51310200&page=15

So, yeah...

edited 23rd Nov '14 5:01:56 AM by Patachou

I think someone needs to improve on the Led Zeppelin (1969) page (particularly the description), as I kind of half-arsed it.

Because, obviously, I can't be arsed.

Agreed that the albums should be converted from Music/ to Album/.

Been adding quite a few albums lately, such as Meddle, Ummagumma, and Surf's Up. As you can see, it's mainly Pink Floyd...

edited 8th Nov '14 2:11:30 AM by bluesno1fann

I'll give a new update of recently added albums here:

• Abigail by King Diamond
• Animals by Pink Floyd
• Atom Heart Mother by Pink Floyd
• The Band (Album) by The Band
• Beatles for Sale by The Beatles
• Bongo Fury by Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart
• The Boston Record by John McLaughlin and the 4th Dimension
• Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits.
• Elvis Presley by Elvis Presley
• The Fat of the Land by The Prodigy
• The Final Cut by Pink Floyd.
• good kid, m.A.A.d city by Kendrick Lamar
• Here's Little Richard by Little Richard
• Interpretations The British Rock Song Book by Bettye LaVette
• King of Rock by Run–D.M.C.
• Live! by Bob Marley
• Live in Amsterdam (2014) by Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa
• A Love Supreme by John Coltrane
• Lumpy Gravy by Frank Zappa.
• Meddle by Pink Floyd.
• Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music by Ray Charles
• Out of Our Heads by The Rolling Stones
• Run DMC by Run–D.M.C.
• Surf's Up by The Beach Boys
• Ummagumma by Pink Floyd

Many thanks to bluesno1fann, Mr Matt and Alucard.

edited 8th Nov '14 7:58:41 PM by Patachou