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Caesar, and Mikaze and Landis for good measure.

I think Reilly's other works may yield another effortpost or two, but that will be another day.

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.

Caesar and Landis.

Why so serious?

@Austin: Alright thanks man.

@Demon Duck: I gave some reasons here. TL DR: I think his agency is impaired and he's got an Even Evil Has Standards moment.

I'm still not 100% convinced. Count me as an abstain for now.

So what's the final on Arianna? I'm wondering if she qualifies because on one level she's downright sadistic and causes misery to the main characters that people like Nicodemus can only dream of.

I think the consensus is nay for issues of relative heinousness in story due to her father overshadowing her.

Landis

I trimmed my effort post to 3245 words. Is it ok?

Okay, so it's now probably only the 3rd or 4th longest . Yeah, that's fine.

• While waiting for that, Mikaze (Evil Is Sexy anyone?), and Aaron Landis.
• Yami: It's possible, Reilly does NOT do subtlety . Once you've finished the latest Scarecrow novel, let me know. Besides the Big Bad, there's another character who MAY count.

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Speaking of which, before I do this week's batch, let me write up Caesar now, as he has MORE than enough votes. This is I think the longest writeup I've done.

• Area 7: Air Force Lieutenant General Charles Samson Russell, call-sign "Caesar", is secretly the head of the elite 7th Special Operations Squadron soldiers at Area 7, a secret base, as well as a top member of the Brotherhood, a secret racist society in the US Air Force. Putting into motion a plan he had been working on for 15 years, when the US President visits Area 7, Caesar activates a transmitter attached to the President's heart. If the President's heart stops, or if he fails to match is palm print to the nuclear football every 90 minutes, over a dozen bombs located in the airports of a dozen of the country's northern cities—including Washington, DC; Los Angeles; New York City; and Chicago—will go off. Willing to give the President a "final chance", Caesar has 50 7th Squadron soldiers face off against the President's Secret Service detail, which, unbeknownst to Caesar, includes US Marine captain Shane Michael Schofield, call-sign "Scarecrow", and several of his troops. After much action, the President explains how Caesar was supposedly put to death for a treasonous plot, tells about the Brotherhood, and explains how the cities that would be destroyed would all be Northern cities. In addition, Caesar would have the Sinovirus, a Chinese bioweapon, as well as the vaccine; the vaccine was the main purpose of Area 7. It is later revealed, even when the Sinovirus is no longer an issue, that Caesar also had a transmitter attached to his own heart, and is planning to die, which would set off the bombs; the heroes have to impersonate Caesar's transmitter signal to kill Caesar and save the cities.

edited 28th Aug '16 2:52:13 AM by ACW

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts

New proposal: Bony Lizzie from YA book series The Wardstone Chronicles.

What is the work?

The Wardstone Chronicles tells the adventures of Thomas Ward, the seventh son of a seventh son, during his apprenticeship with the Spook John Gregory. Spooks, all seventh sons of a seventh son, fight evil creatures. Tom and his master are later joined by Alice Dean, a girl who was trained as witch by her aunt Bony Lizzie. The series got a loose adaptation Seventh Son. Among the numerous changes, Lizzie was rewritten as a loving mother who dies trying to protect Alice. The character in the source material was very different.

Who is she?

Bony Lizzie, aka Elizabeth of the Bones, is a bone witch, a witch using bones for her magic, mainly thumb bones although she also practices blood magic and controls familiars. She's the granddaughter of another infamous witch Mother Malkin. "Mother" Malkin is named this way because she lured helpless pregnant women into a care home where she and her abhuman^note abhumen are monsters born from the Fiend and a witch son Tusk would kill them and their babies. Finally, Lizzie is the aunt of Alice Deane.

Lizzie appears in the first novel The Spook's Apprentice, the seventh novel The Spook's Nightmare, the twelfth novel the Spook's: Alice and the short story "Alice and The brain Gruzzler".

What does she do?

Backstory: It's not known if Lizzie worked with Mother Malkin in the "care home" but she did travel with her and Tusk. Thirteen years before the first book, the Spook John Gregory captured Mother Malkin with his silver chain but Lizzie and Tusk managed to escape. As the Spook didn't have the heart to either burn Mother Malkin or rip her heart out and eat it (the only ways to permanently kill a witch), he sealed her in a pit in his garden guarded by his pet boggart.

"Alice and the Brain Guzzler": The story takes place two years before the first book. After the sudden death of her parents, Alice Deane went to live with her kind aunt Agnes Sowerbutts. Three days later, her other aunt Lizzie abducted the 11 years old girl with the intention of teaching witchcraft. We're soon introduced to Old Spig, the titular Brain Gruzzler who feeds on brain from animals and humans. Lizzie had a servant, Nanna Nuckle, whom she allowed Old Spig to eat her brain and use her body as his vessel. Every month, she prepares Old Spig's favorite meal: brains plug in apple juice that she buries in the Witch's Dell at full moon.

One day, Alice insults Old Spig for jumping into her stew. Old Spig announces that he will consume her brains just before the next full moon. When Alice reports the incident to Lizzie not only the latter refuses to help her but she makes clear that's none of her business. Old Spig almost succeeds until Alice kills him by trapping him in Nanna Nuckle's skull with salt. When Lizzie returns, she's surprised to see Alice still alive, then angry about Spig's death. After burying the maid and the familiar, she explains to her student that she's, after all, relief that Spig is dead as familiars tend to grow in influence over their masters.

Spook's: Alice: This is the twelfth book is the series but there's a long flashback telling a story taking place after the short story but before the first book. Alice's parents' death was no accident. They'd been murdered by Lizzie, using a spell that made them look like they just died of a fever. Lizzie repeatedly abuses her niece. She also regularly murders people to harvest thumb bones. Alice notices that some of the thumbs are too small to come from an adult... Alice tried several time to run away but each time, Lizzie found her, dragged her back and gave "days and nights of pain, hunger and terror" as a punishment.

The bone witch is tasked by the coven to kill the old spook Jacob Stone. In his garden, she finds the pits where two undead witches are buried. With a knife, she extracts Alice's blood from her arms to feed those witches and sicks them on the helpless old man then proceeds to burgle his house where she finds a mysterious egg made of black leather. She uses the spook's thumb bones to trap him in the limbo and summon his spirit to interrogate about the mysterious artefact When he still refuses to say anything under the torture, Lizzie threatens to harm his family. Jacob retorts that he was the only survivor of his family. Lizzie then correctly guesses that any child will do and gladly announces her horrified student that tomorrow they're going to grab a child or more. The next day however, Jacob Stone escapes the limbo and finds his way to the light.

Lizzie takes Alice to see an old dowser whom she casts a spell on to transfer the egg's consciousness. It reveals it will grant the witch who sacrifices seven children on the night of a full moon with a coven of thirteen witches her heart's desire. Lizzie decides to make her own coven with twelve water witches ^note  Water witches are an aquatic Witch Species with near-animal intellect so that Lizzie could easily manipulate them. Lizzie and Alice meet the water witches' keeper Betsy Gammon. Lizzie deceives the latter pretending shes going to share her new powers. Betsy proposes to abduct thirteen children because "extras always come in useful." Lizzie personally kidnaps a girl while Betsy and her witches grab twelve other kids. Alice realizes Lizzie has gone too far and run to find the spook Bill Arkward. On her way, she meets the floating head of a mysterious boy^note  who’s later revealed to be the Fiend in disguise. The boy convinces her she's powerful enough to defeat Lizzie and her coven. She comes back in time just as her aunt was performing the ritual. Alice basically enters God Mode and single handedly beats Lizzie, kills Betsy and scatters the water witches. She rescues the children and uses her magic to make Lizzie forget about the whole adventure.

The Spook's Apprentice: Lizzie returns to Chipenden with a plan to free Mother Malkin. She bakes three blood cakes with Alice's blood and abducts a three-year-old boy as "welcome gift" for her grandmother. Since the boggart protects the garden where Mother Malkin is imprisoned, the bone witch orders Alice to trick John Gregory's new Apprentice Tom into providing Mother Malkin the cakes. Tom gives the first two then realizes his mistake too late. Mother Malkin becomes stronger and breaks out of her pit prison. Fortunately, Tom easily pushes her into the river where she drowns. After Tom rescues the child Lizzie intended to sacrifice, she and Tusk pursue him until he reaches the Spook's house where they are chased off by the boggart. Avenging Mother Malkin, she captures Tom using Alice as a bait, feeds him with a drug and throws him into a pit. She tells him that the ghost of Billy Bradley, Gregory's deceased apprentice, is going to eat his flesh at night. It's actually a lie but the drug inflicts Tom such nightmarish hallucinations. At dawn, Alice pulls him out of the pit before Lizzie comes back to cut off his thumbs. John Gregory arrives, kills Tusk and binds Lizzie in a pit.

At the end of the story, Alice shows Tom the scars on her arm. She explains that Lizzie extracted her blood countless times and that she has many scars all over her body.

Between books 1 and 7, Lizzie is rotting in the pit. I need to mention two major plot points. First in The Spook's Mistake, The Fiend reveals the truth about Alice's parentage, she's his daughter and Lizzie isn't her aunt but her mother. Secondly, in The Spook's Sacrifice, Tom is forced to make a literal Deal with the Devil to defeat the Ordeen in exchange for his soul. Alice created amulet, a blood jar, to keep the Devil from reclaiming Tom. The Fiend is so furious that he swears to drag both Tom and his daughter to his dominion and inflict them everlasting torment.

The Spooks Nightmare: When Tom, Alice and The Spook return to Chipenden, they find out that during their absence, the County was attacked by a foreign army. With the boggart gone a group of witches were able to enter the garden and release Bony Lizzie. The trio seek refuge on the Island of Mona ^note  basically the Isle of Man. Lizzie secretly follows them. She infiltrates a fishing boat and slaughters the crew. The fishermen were later found drained of blood and their thumbs cut away.

Alice, separated from Tom and the Spook, is captured by Lizzie. The men of Lord Barule (the ruler of Mona who's also a shaman) find Lizzie and Alice and manage to seized them both but not before Lizzie killed many of them. Barrule who has also captured Tom, makes up a fight between the boy and the two witches in his fortress Greeba Keep. Lizzie convinces Tom and Alice to unite against the shaman. Lizzie, Alice and Tom escapes the fortress. A while later Lizzie trades Tom to the Shaman in exchange for the right to leave the island with Alice. Back to Greeba Keep, Tom is forced to fight three dogs who belonged to the spook Bill Arkwright who died in the previous book. Lizzie comes back and summons the ghost of Bill who sicks the dogs on the Shaman. In order to summon the ghost, Lizzie had to trap the poor man in the limbo. With Barule's bones, she's so powerful that Tom can't even raise his chain to stop her. She announces her intention of ruling Mona. Meanwhile, the soldiers who fled the castle asks John Gregory to stop Lizzie. He fails miserably as Lizzie paralyzes him by mere will. She threatens to force Tom with her Compelling Voice to break the blood jar and let the Fiend takes him if he disobeys.

She charges Tom to ask commander Stanton, who leads the soldiers, to work for her. She adds "They have ten minutes to decide. Every five minutes over that time, and one of their number will die."She's not bluffing. Daniel Stanton waits 20 minutes and two yeomen suddenly die from suffocation before he finally accepts the meeting. The self-proclaimed queen releases all the prisoners, organizes a feast in her honor and invites the landowners and members of the Ruling Council. When a miller challenges her authority, Lizzie makes his head bleeds to death. She immediately traps his soul in the limbo and summons his ghost to cow her audience. She then announces that death awaits those who oppose her along with fear and suffering beyond the grave. It turns out that miller was the father of Adriana Lonan the bird witch whom Tom and Alice befriended earlier. Adriana is soon taken down to the dungeon to be fed to the Buggane ^note  a daemon who feeds on the anima of its victims along with the Spook.

Tom and Alice picks up the shaman's notebook so Lizzie can't get her hands on it, freed John Gregory and Adriana, and they all escape through the Buggane's labyrinth where they discover the Cache of Grim ^note a huge source of power. A few days later, Tom encounters Daniel Stanton who now leads La Résistance. Stanton reveals that Lizzie led raiding parties against some of the local landowners and farmers who had refused outright to pledge their support. Entire families including children were slaughtered. He convinces our heroes to join him to ambush Lizzie and her army while she'll be with the parliament.

The operation epically fails. Lizzie uses her dread spell scaring both armies leaving just Tom, the Spook, Alice and Stanton, the latter of whom she knocks him unconscious. Alice, Tom and the spook flee leaving Daniel Stanton behind. For several days, Lizzie sends bad dreams to John Gregory tormenting him. After a while, Alice and Adriana decide to storm Greeba Keep and let Tom kill the witch in her sleep.

Falling in a trap, Tom wakes up in a cell with Horn the abhuman (another offspring of Satan). He sees Daniel Stanton's soulless body after the Buggane drained his anima. Lizzie arrives and cut away Stanton's thumb bones. She then warns Tom that she found the Cache of Grim and she'll have enough power to Take Over the World when she'll learn how to control it. She adds that she will cut away his thumb bones too after the buggane devoures him. Tom convinces Horn to help him and they both escape the prison. Horn localizes the bone witch waiting for them. She had just killed of one her guard and drank his blood. Tom remembers that Lizzie prefers children's blood but would drink an adult's if she's thirsty enough. She raises her hand toward Horn and his head collapses in on itself. Just as she was about to slice off Tom's thumb, Alice projects her spirit in the room and reveals to her mother that she has Barrule's notebook and she wants to trade it for Tom's life. She argues that without it Lizzie will never be able to control the Cache of Grim. After Alice double crosses her by burning the book, Lizzie points her finger straight at her daughter with the intention of taking her life. The girl actually used the Cache to protect herself. She makes a huge mistake by letting the witch escape Greeba Keep.

The group consisting of Tom, Alice, the Spook, Adriana and her fiance Simon Sulby finally catches the fallen queen near the cliffs. Lizzie casts a spell of compulsion on them to make them throw themselves off the Cliff. John, Tom, Alice and Adriana resist but Simon being neither a witch nor a Magical Seventh Son jumps onto the rocks. Lizzie seizes Adriana by the throat, lifts her off her feet and hurls her over the cliff. A flock of seagulls swoops towards the witch to avenge their friend Adriana. Out of magic, Lizzie can't fight back and fall into the sea.

Spook's: Alice: Back to book twelfth, this time for the present day storyline. Alice must travel in the Dark inhabited by the spirits of the deceased witches and evildoers in pursuit of the Dolorious Blade, necessary for a ritual Tom intends to perform on Halloween to defeat the Fiend for good. Alice allies with deceased assassin Thorn.

Alice and Thorn are ambushed by Lizzie, Mother Malkin and Tusk who bring them to their new master Beelzebub. The daemon interrogates Alice about the goal of her quest. Beelzebub dissolves into flies and the swarm covers Alice's entire body. Some of these flies invade her mouth and nostrils while Lizzie watches with a big smile. After reforming himself, the lord of flies threatens to do the same thing to Thorn. At this moment, the latter frees herself, heads into the daemon and cut off his thumbs. Alice and Thorn escape through a magic door after being chased by Mother Malkin and Lizzie. That's the last we see of them.

Mitigating factors?

No Freudian Excuse elaborated besides being raised by a clan of evil witches. Early on The Spook's Nightmare, Lizzie reveals to Tom that she considers her conception of Alice with the Fiend as her "gift to the County". She believes Alice is destined to unite the clans of Pendle and end their rivalry. Quote:

"Know what Alice is, boy? She's my gift to the County [...]'She's my special gift to the Pendle clans, One day she'll unite 'em once and for all, and then the world had better watch out!'"

She might sound like a Well-Intentioned Extremist but it's likely more about uniting the witches against the rest of the world. Anyway it's not compelling considering how she repeatedly put Alice in harm's way and no longer cares by the time she directly tries to kill her.

The fact that she went in great ways to free her grandmother Mother Malkin and attempted to avenge her could invoke an Even Evil Has Loved Ones but there's little evidence beyond that. I paid attention and even thought in the first book, Lizzie is irate after Tom killed Mother Malkin, she doesn't seem to be sad at all. In fact, she never mentions her, not even once. Before throwing Tom in the pit, the only things she says to him are sadistic taunts. Ditto for the Spook's Nightmare where she never brings Mother Malkin and makes clear that she resents Tom and his master for pitting her. When Alice accuses her of taking on the Fiend to bear a child because she couldn't find a normal man, she retorts that she had men in her life but they all left her because they were "scared of a real woman in her prime". When she takes over Greeba Keep, she releases all the prisoners but that's just an act of Pragmatic Villainy to gain more supporters.

Moral Agency?

Most creatures Tom faces are either Always Chaotic Evil entities (daemons, evil spirits...) or feral beasts. While most witches are evil, they're human and have moral agency. The series has several token "good" witches (or not entirely evil): Alice, Adriana the bird witch, Agnes the benevolent witch, Grimalkin the ruthless killer who wants to avenge her son killed by the Fiend

Heinousness?

I do think she stands out in heinousness being one of the few recurring antagonists and the one with the most crimes. Lord Barrule from the Spook's Nightmare is also an awful human being as he hunts witches despite being a sorcerer himself. Still I don't see him as a CM since Lizzie has a much larger body count with the same level of resource and he dies halfway the story. I seriously considered Mother Malkin but in the story she just ties to kill Tom and later, as a ghost, tries to kill his entire family but I think it's standard villainy. The story about the serial killing of pregnant women is backstory and Offscreen Villainy. Lizzie overshadows her by what we actually see. The other evil witches fail the moral standard. The heroes also face several elder Gods (The Bane, Golgroth, the Ordeen, Siscois, etc) who want to feed on humanity but they all come out as a Generic Doomsday Villain.

The only other candidate I consider is Alice's other parent, the Fiend himself. I'll make an effort about him post later.

Verdict

My only slight hesitation is her unspecific relationship with her grandmother Mother Malkin but considering she hates her own daughter for no reason I have a hard time to imagine her liking anyone period. At best it's a Villainous Friendship between two awful people like Voldemort and Bellatrix or Ramsey and Miranda. So for Bony Lizzie.

edited 28th Aug '16 3:47:44 AM by Silverblade2

The effort post about the Fiend is probably going to be shorter as he makes sporadics appearances before the last book.

to Bony Lizzie.

Here's Mike Logan's entry.

• Cannibal Ferox: Mike Logan is an unstable and sadistic drug dealer who fled the city after stealing 100 000 dollars from the mafia. When introduced to Gloria, Rudy and Pat, Mike tells of how he and his partner wounded Joe where attacked by the natives while looking for emeralds. In addition to repeated attempts to leave Joe to die, Mike seduces the naive Pat with drugs and encourages her to torture a young native girl, before eventually shooting said girl. Joe soon reveals that during the hunt for emeralds, Mike took the tribe hostage, torturing their guide such as castrating him and cutting out one of his eyes, as well as killing one of his hostages, and natives are hunting them down in retaliation. Mike later leaves Joe behind to die and steals the groups map and money. When the natives capture them, during Mike's final escape attempt, Mike cuts a rope that Gloria and Pat where trying to climb to leave them to their fates.

"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."

@ACW: Yes, they piled on the fanservice big time with Mikaze... the transformation sequence from bitch to witch isn't any more subtle.

On that subject, writeup time.

• Occult Academy: The sweet, kindhearted Mikaze Nakagawa turns out to be a black mage with a penchant for seduction and a desire to open a gate to Hell and obliterate the world. Disguised as a chef at a a curry eatery with no apparent connection to the occult, Mikaze attempted to murder then-principal of Waldstein Academy Jun'ichiro to remove him as a threat to her own designs, and targeted his daughter Maya shortly after apparently killing him. Mikaze is responsible for the periodic monster attacks that have led to a number of deaths, and directly seduces time agent Fumiaki into doing her bidding. After exposing her true nature, Mikaze paralyzes Fumiaki after he wears out his use and promises to give him a torturous death, and utilizes her cult of brainwashed innocents to try and kill Maya and her friends, succeeding in murdering vice principal Chihiro and nearly attaining her goal of unleashing Hell upon the world. Mikaze was a manipulative sociopath with a wide sadistic streak with not one reservation about murdering anyone who got in the way of her omnicidal plans.

edited 28th Aug '16 4:23:56 AM by Scraggle

to Bony Lizzie.

Look forward to reading the Fiend's effort post, it sounds a very interesting series I might have to look it up.

I like the series but it mostly aims to young readers.

I don't think Movie!Mother Malkin counts despite her bigger role. There's no mention of her killing pregnant women. She's rewritten as John Gregory's former lover who killed his wife but that's Offscreen Villainy. Julianne Moore's acting was so narmy I couldn't take her seriously anyway.

edited 28th Aug '16 5:02:25 AM by Silverblade2

You know what else aimed at "young readers?" Redwall.

Look how well that turned out. Fantastic series (some installements like Triss not withstanding) but it got really, really violent at places - helps it's probably got one of the largest rosters of CMs this side of Song of Ice and Fire - Brian Jacques did not believe in making his villains particularly subtle in their evil. Point is, children's literature can push its boundaries far more easily than something like a kid's film, and if a character like Lizzie or the Fiend can comfortably exist in this series, I see no reason why "aimed at young readers" should be much of a turn-off.

Before I forget, I'll yea Lizzie.

edited 28th Aug '16 5:14:26 AM by Scraggle

Bony Lizzie.

Welp. It's over now. I've officially finished my adrenaline, action-fueled adventure with Strike Back. It's right up there with Spooks in terms of quality, and right up there with Modern Warfare in terms of action scenes and character deaths. In other words it's incredible.

Anyways....enough about me gushing about said show. I came across two people I wanna discuss, but for now I'll only bring up one candidate. I'll bring up the second one later.

Who is He?

Tahir is the leader of a group of Sudan rebels known as the Janjaweed.

What Has He Done?

At the beginning of the fifth episode in the Project Dawn season, the rebels are seen invading a clinic run by Clare Somersby and her fiancé, Bakri. During the invasion, they burn down the clinic, kill some of the civilians (including a woman whom escaped the Janjaweed after being stabbed and raped) and kidnap Clare, Bakri, and a young child. When we first see Tahir's camp, we're shown a group of young boys who are being verbally forced into beating a man with a stick, giving the implication he's raising Child Soldiers.

When Tahir first appears on-screen, he explains how he needs the doctor alive, but that he only needs one doctor, at which point he nonchalantly guns down Bakri. The episode reveals that Clare was kidnapped over a dispute with a known arms dealer named Gerald Crawford; Tahir intends on trading Clare in exchange for the weapons he was promised. When Tahir meets with Crawford, he explains he has no weapons, only money, and pleads to Tahir to release his daughter. Tahir responds by cutting off Clare's right ear, and moments later, Scott and Stonebridge intervene and start gunning down Tahir's men. However, Tahir manages to recapture Clare and takes her back to his camp.

In the next episode, Tahir decides to honor Clare's wish to give her fiancé a proper burial. Only one catch: she has to search through a wadi filled with several mangled corpses, no doubt a Janjaweed mass grave. Tahir then gives Clare an ultimatum: either spend the rest of her life with him, or die and be buried in the same grave as her husband. Since we never see Bakri's corpse again, we can only assume that Clare didn't search the graves (or maybe she did, and never found the body). Later that night, Tahir tries to woo Clare in his home and plans to have sex with her, while his men are outside about to gang-rape Clare's friend, Subin. Clare tries to give herself up to the men in order to spare her the trauma, but Tahir stops her, declaring that Clare is "his." Before Tahir can do anything, however, Subin snatches a grenade off one of her would-be rapists and blows herself—and some of Tahir's soldiers—up.

The explosion gives Stonebridge, Crawford, and good Samaritan Jacoub (who reveals that his family was also kidnapped and possibly killed off-screen by the Janjaweed) enough time to engage Tahir's forces. Tahir emerges from his hut with a knife at Clare's throat, and threatens to kill her in front of her father. Just as he's about to, one of the child soldiers stabs Tahir, and Stonebridge is able to shoot and "kill" Tahir. It's later revealed that he was wearing body armor, and Tahir gathers what's left of his soldiers to chase after Clare, Stonebridge, Crawford, Jacoub, and the young kid, ready to kill them all. Eventually they track them down, a large shootout ensues, and Tahir and his soldiers are killed.

Freudian Excuse?

Nope.

Redeeming Qualities?

Nah. There are a few moments where he saves Clare from being harmed and possibly raped by his soldiers, but only because he intends on keeping her to himself. He sees her as his personal slave, nothing more.

Is He Heinous By The Series Standard?

He fits the bill. Each season of Strike Back (except the last one) follows a standard two-episode arc. When it comes to Strike Back's villains, they fit one of three categories. They're either an Arc Villain, they're the Big Bad, or they're directly associated with the Big Bad, most likely as The Dragon. Tahir falls in the first category, as his role in the show hardly impacts the overall plot of Season 2 at all. It's really hard to compare every arc villain in the series, because all of them are heinous in their own unique way. Season 2 has a cold-hearted mercenary who murdered a kid's father mere feet away from him (but left him alive and traumatized), and then later killed a Sacrificial Lamb in front of Stonebridge; the same season has a drug and arms dealer who's also responsible for some human trafficking; Season 3 has an Arch-Enemy for Stonebridge who callously murdered Stonebridge's wife in front of him; Season 4 has a Columbian cartel leader who also owns a team of corrupt cops, and so on and so forth.

Now, no, Tahir doesn't try to do anything heinous such as trying to set off a nuclear bomb (like Conrad Knox did), nor did he try to deploy nerve gas into a populated area (like Latif did). But then again, none of the arc villains do. Nearly every villain goes as far as they're willing to go; it isn't a question of if they're heinous enough or not. It's a question of if they have any redeeming qualities. Over 80% of the arc villains have loves ones, or they're mercenaries or soldiers following orders, or they have some kind of tragic backstory, etc., that prevents them from being a CM.

Except for Tahir. As far as I can tell, he's the only arc villain who embraces his nefarious deeds. I should also point out, he's one of the small amount of arc villains who is perfectly fine with letting his soldiers gang-rape innocent women, and he's the only arc villain in the entire series who stood out to me.

Final Verdict?

He seems like he counts. Again, he doesn't do anything as horrifying as the Big Bads, but that's only because he's just a standard African warlord, a mere arc villain, nothing more. He doesn't really have that many resources, but for what he does have, he's pretty damn evil.

Any thoughts?

edited 28th Aug '16 5:27:01 AM by Tyk5919

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.

Hmm, not sure if Lizzie's relationship with Malkin is disqualifying or not, but I'll take your word that it's not, and Bony Lizzie.
Tahir too. Not as high a body count as the big bads, but he has fewer resources. Incidentally, especially since Adebisi didn't count, I THINK this would be Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje's first CM.

edited 28th Aug '16 5:44:46 AM by ACW

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts

Tahir

Welcome to the world of greatest media!

to Tahir.

Tahir and Lizzie.

edited 28th Aug '16 6:32:40 AM by AustinDR

@ACW: That's not too surprising. Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje doesn't really portray that many villains, from what I recall anyway.

Also if anyone has any questions about Tahir or the show in general, I won't be answering them until this afternoon since I'll be very busy soon and away from my computer.

edited 28th Aug '16 6:35:04 AM by Tyk5919

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.

Lizzie and Tahir.

Why so serious?

Once we finish up the Webcomic cleanup, all that we will have left is the fan works. Several months from now, we should take care of the MLP fics. The other fics might take a bit longer.

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Lizzie and Tahir

• Yhwach ^note pronounced Yoo-Ha-Vahk is The Emperor of the Vandenreich, the King of all Quincies, and the final Big Bad. Yhwach attacks the Soul Society, killing numerous Soul Reapers, while personally slaying the Gotei 13's commander Yamamoto Genryusai. It is then revealed Yhwach was responsible for the Auswahlen ^note "Holy Selection" nine years prior—stealing the power from Quincies he deemed "impure"—for all intents and purposes killing them—to restore his own power, which led to the deaths of Ichigo and Uryu Ishida's mothers. Furthermore, Yhwach maintains his power and life by harvesting the souls of those slain in the war, on both sides. On his second invasion, Yhwach callously uses the Auswahlen on his elite Stern Ritter forces, save his own personal guard, when he deems them useless to the coming battle. Finding the Soul King, Yhwach destroys him, nearly sundering the separate worlds, while not caring about the innocents or even his own soldiers caught up in the destruction. Said soldiers offer their aid to the Shinigami once they understand the extent of Yhwach's threat to existence; this Enemy Mine also includes various other factions, demonstrating how dangerous Yhwach is. Absorbing the Soul King's power, Yhwach later uses Auswahlen a third time on his Royal Guard, including his trusted second-in-command Haschwalth, before defeating Ichigo himself, stealing his powers and declaring his intent to bring ruin to Soul Society and the human world, while threatening to kill Ichigo's friends in their happiest moments should they interfere, all to create a world where he won't have to die. Brutal, callous and unrelenting in his selfish belief that everything exists to benefit and empower him, Yhwach stands as Bleach's cruelest and most dangerous villain.

• Brave Exkaiser: Dino Geist is the universe's most infamous Space Pirate, having ravaged and plundered planets across the universe with his crew, the Geisters, who were usually Laughably Evil, while Dino Geist was played dead seriously. Dino Geist would endanger countless human lives to either gain as much treasure as he can, or simply to spite the Kaisers, to the point of attempting to detonate Mt. Fuji and put the 8 million people in the surrounding area in danger, purely to harm the humans the Kaisers cared so much about. On several occasions, Dino Geist takes hostages, both human or Kaiser, to gain an advantage, then tries to kill them without a second thought once he got his way, in some cases even indulging in torture while waiting. Even his own allies aren't safe from his ruthlessness, as both his Friend in the Black Market and his own crew are ultimately abandoned to the Kaisers without a second thought when it suits the pirate's goals. The Final Battle sees him attempt to kidnap Kouta and take him off world as a trophy solely to spite Exkaiser for getting in his ways, and when that fails, threatens his life get an advantage over his archenemy. Even Dino Geist's death is an act of malice and spite, as he casts himself into the sun, taking his own life to insult Exkaiser's belief all life is a treasure rather than allowing the Kaiser to arrest him. Vindictive and Greedy beyond measure, Dino Geist's reputation as the worst Space Pirate in the universe was well earned.
• Occult Academy: Mikaze Nakagawa appears sweet and kindhearted, but is actually a black mage with a penchant for seduction and a desire to open a gate to Hell and obliterate the world. Disguised as a chef at a a curry eatery with no apparent connection to the occult, Mikaze attempted to murder then-principal of Waldstein Academy Jun'ichiro to remove him as a threat to her own designs, and targeted his daughter Maya shortly after apparently killing him. Mikaze is responsible for the periodic monster attacks that have led to a number of deaths, and directly seduces time agent Fumiaki into doing her bidding. After exposing her true nature, Mikaze paralyzes Fumiaki after he wears out his use and promises to give him a torturous death, and utilizes her cult of brainwashed innocents to try and kill Maya and her friends, succeeding in murdering vice principal Chihiro and nearly attaining her goal of unleashing Hell upon the world. Mikaze was a manipulative sociopath with a wide sadistic streak with no reservation about murdering anyone who got in the way of her omnicidal plans.
• Cannibal Ferox: Mike Logan is an unstable and sadistic drug dealer who fled the city after stealing $100,000 dollars from the mafia. When introduced to Gloria, Rudy and Pat, Mike tells of how he and his partner wounded Joe where attacked by the natives while looking for emeralds. In addition to repeated attempts to leave Joe to die, Mike seduces the naive Pat with drugs and encourages her to torture a young native girl, before eventually shooting said girl. Joe soon reveals that during the hunt for emeralds, Mike took the tribe hostage, torturing their guide—including castrating him and cutting out one of his eyes, as well as killing one of his hostages, and natives are hunting them down in retaliation. Mike later leaves Joe behind to die and steals the group's map and money. When the natives capture them, during Mike's final escape attempt, Mike cuts a rope that Gloria and Pat where trying to climb to leave them to their fates.
• Nick of Time: Mr. Smith is a psychotic assassin with a Hair-Trigger Temper hiding under a paper-thin veneer of affability. A member of the conspiracy to assassinate Governor Eleanor Grant, Smith and his cohort Ms. Jones snatch accountant Gene Winston from off the street and browbeat him into carrying out the assassination at the threat of his young daughter Lynn's life—with full plans to likely kill both after they have worn out their use. Smith relentlessly hounds and beats Gene and threatens to brutally murder Lynn for the slightest deviation from the plot, and at one point reminisces over murdering a friend of his for being a "fuck-up." Smith coldly shoots Eleanor's assistant dead after she inadvertently learns too much, and once the plot to kill Eleanor goes awry for the final time, Smith simply indiscriminately fires into a populated crowd to take her out and shortly thereafter tries to murder Lynn himself. Deprived of any real emotion except murderous anger, Smith's tendency to harm anything that so much as displeased him marked him as the absolute worst of those involved in the conspiracy.
• Realm of the Elderlings: The Pale Lady is The Man Behind the Man for almost every bad thing that's happened in the Farseer Trilogy, as she purchased the skill scrolls from Regal and learned the art of Forging from them. As The Tawny Man trilogy showed, she relished in the psychological aspects of forging; she loved unleashing mindless Forged ones against their own families and kinsmen. In addition, she would ransom the dead bodies of Out Islanders she'd captured to their families, with the threat that if they didn't pay she'd return them as Forged. She was behind the war between The Six Duchies and the Out Islands, using the Out Island warlord Kebal Rawbread as her Heavy. It was implied that she may have had her hands in the Jamaillian slave trade. She was a recreational Torture Technician as well. When Kebal Rawbread failed her, she chained him to a frozen throne in her ice palace, used magic to keep him alive through what would have been lethal frostbite, and fed him body parts of other Out Islanders she'd forged. Forging was a process that could be done very slowly over the course of weeks. And she tortured The Fool over the course of days for no reason other than the joy of it. Her sole motivation was the complete collapse of civilization.
• Scarecrow (Shane Michael Schofield) series, by Matthew Reilly:
  • Area 7: US Air Force Lieutenant General Charles Samson Russell, call-sign "Caesar", is secretly the head of the elite 7th Special Operations Squadron soldiers at Area 7, a secret base, as well as a top member of the Brotherhood, a secret racist society in the US Air Force. Putting into motion a plan he had been working on for 15 years, when the US President visits Area 7, Caesar activates a transmitter attached to the President's heart. If the President's heart stops, or if he fails to match his palm print to the nuclear football every 90 minutes, over a dozen bombs located in the airports of a dozen US cities—including Washington, DC; Los Angeles; and New York City—will go off. Willing to give the President a "final chance", Caesar has 50 7th Squadron soldiers face off against the President's Secret Service detail, which, unbeknownst to Caesar, also includes US Marine captain Shane Michael Schofield, call-sign "Scarecrow", and several of his troops. After much action, the President explains how Caesar was supposedly put to death for a treasonous plot, tells about the Brotherhood, and explains how the cities that would be destroyed would all be Northern cities, as "Caesar wants an America without the North". In addition, Caesar would have the Sinovirus, a Chinese bioweapon, as well as the vaccine, which was the main purpose of Area 7. It is later revealed, even when the Sinovirus is no longer an issue, that Caesar also had a transmitter attached to his own heart, and is planning to die, which would set off the bombs.
  • Scarecrow: Jonathan James Killian III is the head of Axon Corp., as well as part of Majestic-12, a cabal of billionaire industrialists who dominate global political and economic policy, and plot to fake several nuclear attacks in order to escalate The War On Terror into a second Cold War, as well as to create more business for themselves. Fascinated by anarchy and its results, Killian plans to make the targets think they were struck by their most hated enemies; this included China and Taiwan, and India and Pakistan. Even after the other members deny permission, he secretly changes the missiles being constructed to carry out his plan, to be capped off with a supposed Israeli weapon, with an American nuclear warhead, to strike Mecca on the start of Ramadan, which would spark worldwide vengeance by Muslims against American citizens and tip the balance into global anarchy. He also makes a habit of trapping people—including another Majestic-12 member—in a Shark Pool equipped with a guillotine, to see who will kill themselves or each other to spare themselves pain, and after capturing Scarecrow’s Love Interest Libby Gant, he has her beheaded to make Scarecrow want vengeance and distract him from stopping the plot, which nearly drives him to suicide instead. Even after Scarecrow comes back, helps stop the attacks and confronts Killian, Killian gloats that he will have won even if Scarecrow kills him.
• To Kill a Mockingbird: Robert E. Lee "Bob" Ewell personifies all that was wrong with Dixie in the 1930s. For starters, he's a terrible, neglectful father, to the point where the sheriff actually turns a blind eye to him hunting out of season out of pity for the little Ewells. He gets Tom Robinson, a disabled black man, arrested for supposedly raping and beating his daughter Mayella. Atticus Finch, the defense lawyer, shows that Tom was physically incapable of committing the crime, and that it was Bob who caught Mayella making advances on an unwilling Tom ,and beat her himself, with it being implied at one point that Bob himself has been sexually abusing Mayella. Since the book takes place in the Deep South several decades before the Civil Rights movement, the all-white jury sentences Tom to death anyway. Even though Tom Robinson is dead, Bob tries to get revenge on those who opposed him at the trial, culminating in trying to kill Atticus's children on their way home from a school play.

Family

• Silver Odysseus stands out as a particularly Ax-Crazy individual in a Vice City run by a superpowered Mafia. When he was heir apparent to become the next Don of the Odysseus crime family, he regularly whacked other made guys before his associates killed him to make his younger brother Gio the new boss. Silver comes Back from the Dead years later and goes on an indiscriminate rampage, killing gangsters, cops, and civilians alike with his explosive powers. He also murders his nephew Chrissie to hurt Gio, as well as a gangster named Stone by blowing him up while he's in his petrified form so his disembodied head will remain conscious. At the same time he's using his old partner Al to play Gio and his rival Cane against each other, hoping to unleash a citywide Mob War. He ultimately reveals his real purpose is to wipe out everyone in the family and bring a true reign of terror to Oysseus City.

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