Characters: Baldurs Gate Main Party Members
The Player Character and recruitable party members that appear in both Baldur's Gate
games, as well as their associated tropes.
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From a Five-Man Band
perspective, considering who the canonical party members from BG1 are, CHARNAME is The Hero
, Jaheira is The Lancer
(though it's clearer in BG2), Minsc is The Big Guy
, Dynaheir is The Smart Guy
, and Imoen is The Chick
. Khalid is just kind of there.
- CHARNAME/The Bhaalspawn
Is it true dragon meat tastes like chicken? Never mind, I'll find out for myself.
The player character is known throughout the game as "The Bhaalspawn" and "Gorion's Ward", and among the fans as CHARNAME due to the name variable in the game's files. In BG1, you spend the majority of the game thinking you're merely the adopted child of Gorion, which while true, doesn't mean you can't also be the son/daughter of the ironically-dead god of murder. Which, y'know, you are. You stop Sarevok (your half-brother) from igniting a war to feed off the death and become the new god of murder, and everyone lives happily ever after.
Until you're kidnapped by Jon Irenicus, off screen, and forced into the events of BG2. Then, after you handle him, it's time for BG2: ToB, where you fight the high Priestess of Bhaal. THEN it's happily ever after. Maybe.
- Abusive Parents - Your biological father conceived you specifically so you could later be killed for his benefit, and your biological mother was the one holding the knife when it was time to do this. Doesn't get much more abusive than that.
- Adventure Duo- Can be part of one with various party members. Especially Edwin and Minsc.
- A God Am I - You can choose to be this if you want in ToB.
- Badass: It doesn't matter how you play, by the time Throne of Bhaal roles around, CHARNAME just walks over everything. Even Elminster will beat a hasty retreat if you threaten him.
- But Now I Must Go - If you accept godhood and are good, most of your party will wish you luck where they cannot follow. Minsc is especially distraught that his best friend in ass-kicking will be gone.
- Cain and Abel - You and Sarevok. And almost every other Bhaalspawn except Imoen.
- The Call Knows Where You Live
- Canon Name - Abdel Adrian.
- The Casanova - Potentially. A mod called Romantic Encounters allows the PC, female or male, to have flirtations/flings with dozens of different characters in BG2, including a giant red dragon, a guy called Renal Bloodscalp, and the god of lies of and insanity.
- Character Alignment - You can choose from the whole spectrum for CHARNAME, from Lawful Good to Chaotic Evil.
- Chick Magnet - If male, and human, elf, or half-elf. In BG2 three of six joinable female characters will automatically start to fall for him, and a number of female NPCs will also proposition him over the course of the game. Averted if the PC is female - the only man who will show interest is Anomen, at least in an unmodded game. Played straight again with game mods, which can very well give a female PC an Hello, Nurse! effect with her male companions, as well as a handful of other females.
- The Enhanced Edition's four new NPCs also make it straighter for females, with three new romance-options for females, and two new for males (one overlapping).
- Crusading Widower: If CHARNAME is a male who romances Viconia and turns down godhood, Viconia and CHARNAME will get married and start a family. But shortly after the birth of their child, Viconia is assassinated by an agent of Lolth. In retaliation, CHARNAME launches a one-man crusade against Lolth and her drow followers (even taking the fight to Lolth's home turf by traveling to the Demonweb Pits).
- Deadpan Snarker - Moreso in BG1 than BG2, but some of your dialogue options are this.
Iron Throne Guard: You wouldn't kill a man with a wife and ten children, would you?
CHARNAME: No, you've got a fate worse than death already.
- Then there's this gem from Throne of Bhaal:
CHARNAME: Why do you use so many big words? Are you trying to make me feel stupid?
Kiser Jhaeri: My utilization of complex locution is more a reflection of my own superincumbent mental acuity than an aspersion on your circumscribed lexicon.
CHARNAME: Maybe your grandiose vocabulary is a pathetic compensation for an insufficiency in the nether regions of your anatomy.
- Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu? - CHARNAME has acquired the ability to kick the ass of the baddest beings on Faerun, from Demogorgon to Amelissan.
- By Throne of Bhaal, even Elminster doesn't want to fight you. Yeah, you're that Bad Ass.
- Doom Magnet - Justified by the prophecy. "Chaos will be sown in [the Bhaalspawns'] passage." Plus, y'know, you're the son/daughter of MURDER.
- Empowered Badass Normal: Being a Bhaalspawn renders you more powerful than most people. You're a Bhaalspawn all along, but your powers are unknown most of the first game. There are also many ways to increase attributes permanently in both games. Most notably the tomes in the first game. There’s one book for each attribute, except for Wisdom (there are three including Tales of the Sword Coast), which means if you're a cleric, druid or another divine class who initially started BG with 18 Wisdom, you can potentially start Shadows of Amn as level nine with 21 Wisdom!
- Fan Nickname - CHARNAME, obviously.
- Fridge Logic - There's no problem if CHARNAME is human, hafling or half-elf, but if s/he's any other race then their age makes no sense, because s/he's only twenty years old at the start of BG1.
- The way certain game files are structured suggests that the developers did plan for slightly different stories depending on the main character's race or class, but apparently they never got around to implementing it.
- Forced To Take Levels In Bad Ass - In the start of the Baldur's Gate Saga, you're just a level one newbie, however, your continued survival against Everything Trying to Kill You eventually transforms you to a Bad Ass of (literally) god-like proportions.
- Genre Savvy - See the quote from the info page?
- Amusingly, CHARNAME seems to get less genre savvy as you proceed in the story.
- Half-Human Hybrid - But because Bhaal was a god, you're still entirely human (or elven, or dwarven, or whatever). How does it work? It just does.
- Well, he had to take on a physical form to... procreate.
- Happily Adopted - Until your foster father gets gibbed by your evil older half brother.
- Heads Tails Edge - Fortune tellers and hermits tell CHARNAME that they're a coin which landed on edge; incidentally making them Immune to Fate.
- Hello, Insert Name Here
- I Just Want to Be Normal: At the end of Throne of Bhaal, the CHARNAME has the option to dismiss their Bhaalspawn powers and become a regular mortal.
- Jerkass - In the novels. Or it might just be bad writing.
- The Hero
- Karma Meter - Via reputation.
- Luke, I Am Your Father
- Morality Pet: If a male player character's alignment is good or neutral, then he becomes Viconia's should he romance her.
- Multiple Endings
- Odd Friendship - Several dialogue options have CHARNAME have friendly interaction with a Spectator Beholder, a Crazy Awesome recurring monster that appears in BG2 and Throne of Bhaal.
- Never Got to Say Goodbye - Fortunately, there is absolutely no angsting about this.
- The death, however, comes up a good deal in the hero's dreams, so he/she still hasn't gotten over it.
- Of course, he/she probably would if anyone would let them. It seems like somebody reminds you of Gorion being dead every other week.
- Prophetic Dreams
- The Reveal
- Separated at Birth - From Sarevok.
- And it extends this by having a What If? moment as one of the trials in Throne Of Bhaal by showing what would have happened if Sarevok had been saved by Gorion and CHARNAME was put into Sarevok's shoes. Character Alignment being what it is, of course, the answer could very well be "you would have ended up just as evil as you are anyway".
- Not necessarily. Several characters can change alignment throughout the course of the series, often depending on player actions. It's how the game handles dynamic characters.
- The Starscream: Several quests involve CHARNAME serving under a villain to reach one goal or another, almost invariably ending in you becoming his or her right-hand-man with an agenda. Mae'Var and Phaere in the second game are two employers who meet poor ends thanks to CHARNAME turning on them.
- Superpowered Evil Side - Though it's really not very powerful, and for non-warriors it's actually detrimental.
- And you lose alignment points for using it. And if you use it too much, it's game over for you.
- Really, its only use is to adjust your alignment just in case you wanna be good, but keep evil party members.
- And for cheesing your way past Kangaxx, as it's completely immune to his big gun, Imprisonment.
- With Ascension installed, the improved Ravager form makes you able to eat most things for breakfast. Even the improved Ascension TOB bosses go down like wimps to carefully executed Ravager onslaughts. Though it is still only good for fighter classes and multi-classes.
- Taught by Experience - Obviously, given that it's an RPG, but CHARNAME deserves special note. At no point in your life have you received formal training in a combat-capable profession prior to being dumped on your ass in the wilderness, left to fend for yourself in world where seemingly 80% of the people you encounter want to kill you and another 15% only want you alive so that they can corrupt you or manipulate you for their own purposes. Surviving in this environment for two and a half games slowly sees you rise from a callow youth to one of the most powerful mortals in the world, and possibly a god thereafter.
- Troll - A Villain Protagonist can often incline to this through the "evil" dialogue options.
Guard: I... I give up. Please don't hurt me; I promise I won't scream! I don't want to die! Oh please let me live... just don't kill me. Are ya gonna let me live? Area ya? Huh? Huh!?
CHARNAME: Sure, I'll let you live, just tell me everything I want to know.
Guard: I'll tell ya everything, everything! (...) Now are ya gonna let me live?
Just like old times. Well, except for the torture and all.
Voiced by: Melissa Disney
Imoen is the only Bhaalspawn who can join your party (Sarevok doesn't count, because by the time you get him he makes it clear he has no more of Bhaal's essence). Imoen is a perpetual child in BG1, and in BG2 she still acts more childish than anyone else.In BG1, Imoen is simply a sidekick who's known you for your whole life but has no effect on the plot, in BG2 she becomes much more important as the first half of the game is about saving her and the second half involves saving her soul. She was in CHARNAME's canonical party in BG1.
- Action Girl
- Ascended Extra - Originally she wasn't part of the plot at all, and her voiceover lines were recorded for a female extra. She was only added when playtesters complained that the early chapters of the game were too difficult to complete if the PC didn't recruit unstable nutjob Montaron into the party (this is the reason she never interacts with other NPCs, incidentally — there was no time to record additional dialog). She became one of the most popular characters in the game and in the sequel was made a central part of the plot, in addition to being retconned as a Child of Bhaal and the PC's half-sister.
- Imoen is technically this in the sequel as well, as she was originally supposed to die in Spellhold. The developers changed their minds upon seeing fan poll results, leading to the aforementioned RetCon.
- Being Tortured Makes You Evil - She never actually turns EVIL but being abducted and tortured by Irenicus does contribute greatly to her Taking A Level In Badass.
- Black Magician Girl - It didn't take long for many BG1 players to notice her absurdly high Intelligence score, and it became a common strategy to dual-class her as a Mage after a few levels. BG2 canonized this by starting her off as one.
- Break the Cutie - Irenicus did this on purpose in his attempts to feel emotion again. It's the primary impetus for Imoen's Character Development, in addition to serving as a Player Punch and initial Kick the Dog moment for Big Bad Irenicus at the beginning of the second game.
- The Chick
- Can't Catch Up - In BG2, she'll fall way behind other characters in experience if you don't set out to rescue her right away.
- Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass - More like Crouching Genki Girl Hidden Badass, but the principle holds.
- Distressed Damsel
- Empty Shell - She's like this initially when you rescue her from Spellhold. Being tortured by Irenicus and having her soul ripped out will do that to a girl.
- Fridge Logic - Oh so much.
- How come she can be resurrected when other Bhaalspawn can't?
- If she's not included in your ToB party, and doesn't journey with you to Tethyr, how can the PC have the final piece of Bhaal's essence Amelissan needs to ascend to his throne?
- Gameplay and Story Segregation - The games go to great lengths to make it clear that Bhaalspawn can't be resurrected: if you die, the game ends, and by the time Sarevok joins your party he's no longer a Bhaalspawn and can be resurrected. But Imoen, despite (retroactively) being a Bhaalspawn since BG1 can be raised with no penalty whatsoever. If she used part of her soul to resurrect Sarevok, there's even an exchange they have where she notes that she has "died" in the way that many D&D characters do—a quick trip to the priest getting her back on her feet—even if she hasn't.
- There's also the fact that she will cast the spell that gets her arrested when the party exits Irenicus' dungeon, even if she's magically incapacitated or has no spells left memorized when you leave the dungeon.
- Or even if you're playing the mega-mod Baldur's Gate Trilogy which merges both games into one, and you never dual-class her to mage at all.
- Genki Girl - As Valygar states: "A chipmunk with a sugar high and a death wish."
- Go Mad from the Revelation - Originally, it was planned that she'd exit the story after this happened. Even in the revised version, she comes close.
- Incorruptible Pure Pureness - According to Irenicus, she held the taint of Bhaal inside her at bay for her entire life, wholly by virtue of being innocent, sweet, and loving.
- It is however pretty clearly implied that she's not incorruptible, just less corruptible. Though still good, she becomes less nice as the series rolls on, and in ToB in particular can even be a bit of a Bad Ass at times.
- Also note that, with the Ascension mod to fix some banter placement, she starts to develop powers like the main character does in the first game as her taint grows and she also experiences nightmares similar to the main character.
- Kid-Appeal Character - She's the single character most like your stereotypical "less mature" RPG protagonist - young, idealistic, child-like, and generically heroic.
- Like Brother and Sister - More than just "like"...
- Lovable Rogue - And she knows it.
- Mind Rape - Part of what Irenicus does to her.
- Neutral Good - More clearly so in the first game than the second.
- Obfuscating Stupidity - Perhaps more like "Obfuscating Innocence". By the game's statistical measure she's actually a genius, and it turns out she's got quite a vicious streak as her dialog in BG2 reveals, but neither is readily apparent when you first meet her (or indeed for most of the game).
- The Pollyanna - Her natural personality is this. She gets kicked around more than just about any other character in the series, and a large part of her Character Development is driven by her struggle to hold on to her natural innocence in light of the things she learns about herself.
- The Quiet One - She's the only NPC that doesn't interact at all with other characters in BG1, though this was due to her late addition rather than a choice on the part of the writers. She's not all that talkative in the sequel, either, however.
- Partially unintentional; a spelling error in her codings prevented around 15 of her dialogues from functioning properly. Seriously, Bioware, did you hate her that much? Fortunately, there are mods which fix the coding.
- Retcon - And a rather messy one at that (see Fridge Logic above).
- The Reveal
- Screw This, I'm Outta Here! - If she comes close to dying in the first dungeon of Baldur's Gate II, she will run off and escape on her own. This is necessary as she needs to be alive in order to be abducted by Irenicus when the party gets out.
- Ship Sinking - Of all the characters introduced during the first game, she's the one with the closest relationship to the PC, so when it became known that romance subplots would be included in the sequel many fans were surprised and disappointed that she wasn't one of the options. The writers had other ideas, but there are still people who would have preferred her as a love interest.
- Soul Fragment - She can part with a portion of her soul at one point in order to resurrect Sarevok. He still has mostly his own personality, but it does give him and Imoen a strange bond.
- The Soulless - For awhile.
- Stuck Items - Her belt in BG2.
- Suddenly Sexuality - In the terrible novels, Imoen turns into a lesbian for no reason at all.
- In the game itself, her sexuality is never brought up at all.
- Took a Level in Badass - After she finds out what she is, she toughens up immensely.
- Wide-Eyed Idealist - At first, a bit.
- (Wo)man Child - So much so that Jaheira even refers to her as "Child".
- You Can't Thwart Stage One - No matter what you do, Irenicus will succeed in whisking Imoen away to Spellhold.
Minsc & Boo
Stand back... FOR JUSTICE!
Voiced by: Jim Cummings
A berserker from Rasheman, Minsc is easily the most popular character in the series despite having very little effect on the plot. He's a ranger who was hit on the head in a sneak attack and later sold a "miniature giant space hamster", Boo, who gives him advice as he travels. In BG1, Minsc's goal is to protect Dynaheir; in BG2, it's to avenge her, and in BG2: ToB, he mostly hangs out because he likes you. Although it rarely comes up, Minsc is the most loyal of your sidekicks after Imoen. Minsc was in CHARNAME's canonical party in BG1.
Minsc's miniature giant space hamster, bought from a completely trustworthy merchant after he'd taken a blow to the head. Boo forms the brains of the Minsc-Boo duo, directing Minsc's wrath... or so Minsc says. While it's technically possible that Minsc is correct about Boo being from space, all evidence points to Boo being a normal, if brave, hamster.
- The Dev Team Thinks of Everything - You can spawn any NPC with a cheat... and Boo, who's normally an inventory item and not an NPC. He's not very good in a fight, though.
- Loyal Animal Companion - Oddly, despite being the least ranger-y of all ranger NPCs (Minsc wears heavy armor, uses a two-handed sword, and never seems to use stealth), Minsc is the only one with an animal companion.
- Shout-Out - The Spelljammer setting actually does have giant space hamsters (space gnomes use them to power their starships), and these come in many bizarre variants, which include "miniature giant space hamsters". Spelljammer and Forgotten Realms do have canonical crossovers, so a miniature giant space hamster making its way to Faerun is, while extremely unlikely, technically possible.
- Talking Animal - If you take Minsc's word for it.
- Team Pet
- True Neutral
You are amusing, in a "what the hell is wrong with you" kind of way.
Voiced by: Heidi Shannon
Jaheira is a half-elven druid of Silvanus (Forgotten Realms' main nature god). In BG1, she's a friend of your late adoptive father who joins you along with her husband, Khalid. In BG2, she at first joins to track down Khalid, but when she finds he's dead, she joins for the dual purpose of revenge and helping you. Jaheira was in CHARNAME's canonical party in BG1.
- Action Girl - More so than any of the other female characters, which is saying something.
- Adventure Duo - In BG1, with Khalid, and if the player character is male, potentially with him in BG2.
- Anger Born of Worry - She reacts this way after the PC takes an arrow for her when she's taken hostage by bandits.
- Badass: Oh HELL yes.
- Battle Couple - As above. As the only potential female love interest who's also a front-line fighter, this applies much moreso to her than to Aerie or Viconia.
- Bodyguard Crush - She potentially falls in love with a male CHARNAME while traveling with him out of a promise made to Gorion.
- Broken Bird - In BG2, but not in BG1.
- Broken Pedestal - With her mentor in her personal quest.
- But for Me, It Was Tuesday - Her reaction to a slaver she helped put away. Subverted, because she knew exactly who he was but wanted everybody around him to find out who he was.
- Can Not Spit It Out - Her romance probably features more unfinished sentences that trail off with ellipses than any of the others.
- Character Development - She gets more of it than perhaps any other character.
- Chickification - In the novels.
- Crutch Character - Jaheira gains early levels relatively fast in both games due to the low XP requirements of her fighter/druid multitype (and starts with a significant pool of XP to help this along in BG1). She's invaluable for her high HP, combat skills and healing early on, but in both games she'll suffer in the mid- to late game (in BG1 because Yeslick and Branwen bypass her with better spell lists, stats and equipment options, and in BG2 and Throne of Bhaal the absurd XP requirements for Druid levels 14 and 15 effectively stalls her spellcasting for the entire late-game).
- Deadpan Snarker - Moreso in BG2 than BG1.
- Defrosting Ice Queen - She's never as cold or as haughty as Viconia, but she does warm up considerably over the course of the series.
- Distress Ball - If you're in a romance with her, she picks it up on a few occasions, such as when she's surprised and taken by the throat by a group of bandits, and when she's abducted by Bodhi.
- Don't You Dare Pity Me! - Her reaction to the attempts of the other characters to console her after she finds Khalid's corpse.
- First Girl Wins - If you romance her; it's a bit of a subversion however in that she was Happily Married and not available when the protagonist first met her.
- Fridge Logic - When Jaheira and Khalid are first met, they say that Gorion had appointed them to become CHARNAME's guardian should anything happen to him before CHARNAME grew up. Come the sequel, Jaheira is a romance option, which means a male PC is being crushed on by a woman who's not only much older than him, but was designated to become his stepmother. Squick?
- Green Thumb - Since she's spent much of her life adventuring it's a bit of an informed ability, however.
- Wouldn't all Druids have green thumbs? Er, except Faldorn in BG2.
- Guide Dang It - YMMV, but some find her romance a bit difficult the first time, due to the precise actions required to progress and finish it. For example, did anyone realize that you have to buy the engraved locket from the Docks merchant, despite the fact Jahiera clearly states its not necessary, without a guide?
- Happily Married - To Khalid in BG1. And to the PC in her epilogue, if her romance is completed.
- Half-Human Hybrid - She's a half-elf.
- Heroic BSOD - She does not take Khalid's death well. Galvarey and Dermin's treachery even more so.
- Hostage Situation - Happens to her a few times; see Distress Ball above.
- How Dare You Die on Me! - She has this reaction if Khalid dies in the first game. She responds somewhat differently when he's Killed Off for Real.
- In Harmony with Nature - Like most druids, one supposes. She does talk about "balance" a lot more than any of the others you meet however.
- Insignia Rip-Off Ritual - If your actions meet her moral standards, she will eventually resign from the Harpers in disgust because of their persecution of the protagonist.
- Knight in Sour Armor - She starts out pretty cynical, and only grows more so over the course of the saga, but she still believes in fighting for justice and balance.
- Lady of War - The most clear-cut example in the series, from her appearance to her personality to her choice of weaponry. Since she's a Fighter/Druid, she gets a bigger range of weapons and armor to wear than if she were just a Druid.
- The Lancer - In BG2; in BG1 she's more of an Obi Wan.
- Large Ham - Not as large as some of the others, but she still uncorks some choice lines.
- Level-Up at Intimacy 5 - Completing her romance sidequest successfully nets her a very nifty item, as well as buckets of XP for both her and the PC.
- Lzherusskie - Despite the fact that she and Minsc are from different countries in the game world, she too sounds kinda Eastern European.
- Mood Whiplash - in BG2 all the time. Give her an order to walk somewhere, and she will speak in a calm, sometimes even caring tone ("As I would have done"). But order her to attack someone, and suddenly she screams at the top of her lungs: "FOR THE FALLEN!!!" "NATURE, TAKE THE LIFE SHE GAVE!!!" "FALL CREATURE, AND FEED THE EARTH!!!"
- Nature Hero - Not a fantasy-world Granola Girl like your stereotypical female druid, however.
- No Guy Wants an Amazon - Averted, possibly more than once depending on the PC's actions. Jaheira has a very strong personality, but is nevertheless Happily Married to Khalid in BG1, and is one of the female romance options for the PC in BG2.
- Red Herring Mole - You can accuse her of being a spy sent to watch the protagonist for the Harpers, but she's not.
- Romancing the Widow - If you choose her, this is what her romance subplot boils down to.
- Secret Test of Character - Elminster shows up at the end of her main subplot to subject her to one.
- She Is Not My Girlfriend - If she's being romanced, she'll react this way when a merchant in the Docks District offers to sell the PC a lovers' locket inscribed to the two of them; it's fairly apparent however that he's on to something.
- Single Woman Seeks Good Man - Don't listen to the Fan Dumb; Jaheira and Khalid's marriage reeks of this, not that us sane folk are complaining.
- Sugar and Ice Personality - A classic example.
- Team Mom - To almost everyone.
- Tomboy and Girly Girl - Tomboy to Aerie's girly girl.
- Turn in Your Badge - The Harpers may threaten to expel her from the organization in the second game for refusing to follow orders, depending on the player's actions.
- True Neutral - She's officially True Neutral of the balance variety, being a druid (so in-universe, although how well she fits the alignment is a matter of debate).
- Vitriolic Best Buds - With Aerie.
- Walking the Earth - Her default epilogue. She apparently crosses Faerun thrice over during it, although she never returns to the Sword Coast again.
- Women Are Wiser - She thinks so, at least.
- Edwin Odesseiron
(Sigh. It's aggravation like this that will eventually cause me to fireball the entire party as they sleep. Yes indeed, everyone peaceful and quiet and then FOOM!)
Edwin is of no consequence plot-wise, but he's one of the more popular characters, for being a delightful combination of Psycho for Hire
, Deadpan Snarker
, Smug Snake
and Butt Monkey
. He belongs to the Red Wizards. In BG1, he's out simply to kill Dynaheir (the witch Minsc must protect) for unknown reasons, so having Minsc, Edwin, and Dynaheir in a group causes problems. Canonically he fails to kill her, but in BG2 if you have both Minsc and Edwin in a group he'll taunt Minsc about her death until Minsc finally tries to kill him.
- Aerith and Bob - Edwin is a not-exactly-rare English name. And the name of a character in How to Succeed in Evil.
- Always a Bigger Fish - One of Edwin's idle chatter comments is how he's stronger than Elminster — who, for the uninitiated, is basically the most powerful wizard in all of the Forgotten Realms. If he survives until the end of Throne of Bhaal, it's revealed he was actually stupid enough to try and live up to this boast. Elminster transformed Edwin back into "Edwina", and is implied to strip him of his magical powers for good measure. Edwin spends the rest of his life as a "bitter, lonely" woman working in a tavern somewhere.
- Arch-Enemy - To Minsc. In BG1 it's nearly impossible to recruit them into the same party without them coming to blows, but in BG2 they don't do much more than snipe at each other, though a fight still CAN break out.
- To recruit both in BG1, you have to complete Minsc's quest WITHOUT talking to Edwin until you recruit Dynaheir into the party. Then talk to Edwin, and he'll offer to join your party "to keep an eye on the witch". The method itself is pretty simple; it's just hard to figure out without reading a walkthrough.
- However, even if you do succeed in getting them both in your party in BG, a fight which kills one of them (probably Edwin) will break out - in BG2, this is less likely, though as noted above still possible.
- Minsc and Edwin will be guaranteed to not kill each other in the first game if Dynaheir leaves the party. But to keep Minsc while removing Dynaheir, you either have to get Dynaheir killed in battle, or use a cheesy exploit by sending Dynaheir alone to a house, shutting the door with her still in there, and then removing her from the party. Characters need to walk up to Charname in order to activate their exit dialogs, and it's Dynaheir's exit dialog which triggers the code for Minsc to leave with her...but since NPC's can't open doors without player direction, you'll be able to keep Minsc and Edwin peacefully in your party so long as you keep Dynaheir trapped in that house for the rest of the game by never opening the door again...
- Beard of Evil - Of the diabolic goatee variety.
- Bunny-Ears Lawyer - Edwin isn't quite as severe a nutcase as Minsc, and is both capable of functioning like a normal person and a skilled mage on top of it, but he constantly talks to himself loudly (about, say, a plot to fireball the entire party in their sleep later) and is completely taken by surprise when people can overhear him.
- The Cameo: See Always a Bigger Fish. There's a barmaid called Edwina in Dragon Age: Origins.
- Clasp Your Hands If You Deceive - His character portraits.
- Did I Just Say That Out Loud? - His pontifications about the low intelligence of his companions as well as the temptation of raining fireballs upon them as they sleep aren't as sotto voice as they should be. He is startled when called out by certain NPC's.
- First Law of Gender Bending - His transformation by Elminster must really have been permanent, as by the time he leaves Waterdeep to make a cameo in Dragon Age: Origins he still hasn't returned to normal.
- Gag Boobs - Edwina has an enormous rack.
- Gender Bender - Edwin has a sidequest about this, and his ultimate unmodded ending is this.
- Insufferable Genius: Many of the other characters consider him one, but his schemes tend to backfire on him, which undercuts it somewhat.
- Large Ham - However different Edwin and Minsc may be, they have... certain similarities...
- Lawful Evil
- Lzherusskie - Another way he and Minsc are Not So Different.
- Man, I Feel Like a Woman - He can't help but check himself out when he's turned into a woman.
- Manipulative Bastard - He tries to be, though he's not particularly good at it.
- Retcon - Sort of. In BG1 Edwin has a villainous goatee, which was fine, but in the time between BG1 and the sequel, Red Wizards were declared by canon outside of the Baldur's Gate series to consider facial hair barbaric, making Edwin a bizarre and unique case of Retcon, Characterization Marches On (but for his country, not for him), and artistic license, because Bioware could easily have just removed the goatee for the sequel.
- Although this is probably justified by the fact that there are hints that he is an exile.
- Sarcastic Devotee - He might snark at you and talk about fireballing his allies, but he's as loyal as the other evil-aligned characters (who tend to leave when reputation climbs too high).
- Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness - He likes using $10 words as a way to show that he's smarter than everyone else.
- Shout-Out - gets one in Dragon Age: Origins, in the form of the serving wench in the Gnawed Noble tavern in Denerim.
- Small Name, Big Ego - Edwin likes to brag about being a powerful and well-connected Red Wizard who's traveling the Sword Coast for his own reasons, but when you actually encounter other members of his organization it becomes clear that he's a low-ranking wizard of little importance, and the reason he was entrusted with killing Dynaheir was because it's a mission of equally little importance. In the sequel, he's no less proud of his affiliation, even though it's intimated that he's been exiled.
- Smug Snake
- Squishy Wizard - He's the game's best pure offensive magic-user. He's also by far its most fragile character. Furthermore, unlike most of the other magic-oriented characters (Imoen, Aerie, Nalia, Dynaheir, etc.) he doesn't have a high DEX or the ability to equip a shield to make up for his squishiness.
- The Starscream - Edwin makes absolutely no attempt to hide the fact he plans to kill everyone in the group, especially Minsc and yourself, but he never actually tries it.
- To be more specific, for all his talk of performing treasonous behavior, Edwin is one of the most loyal NPCs you can recruit. You can basically be a paladin type character who does tons of good things, have a largely good aligned party, with a high reputation, and the most Edwin will do is make some snide remarks. Just don't get that reputation point to 19 or 20, because he'll REALLY leave.
- Though you might wind up losing him anyway, as there's an unusually high number of NPCs who will try to kill him as a result of banter interactions: Valygar, Minsc, and Keldorn all come to hate him through dialogue, and if you don't step in, things can go very badly for him.
- To whit: Minsc and Valygar will end up trying to kill Edwin just because he doesn't know when to shut up. Keldorn is almost a special case, though, in that Edwin seems to almost have some sort of pathological fear of him, and the fight is actually provoked by him finally freaking out to such a degree that Keldorn tries to put him out of his misery.
- Token Evil Teammate - Since he's the only pure mage in the game in BG2, he often ends up being this in good-aligned parties.
Viconia De Vir
- Viconia DeVir
'Tree hugger, I have a question for you. If a tree falls in a forest, does anyone care?
Viconia is one of the romanceable characters who can join you. A drow (dark elf) who fled to the surface not
to do good and so on but because she hated the ridiculously evil life of her kin. A case of "evil, but not quite THAT evil
- Aborted Arc: According to David Gaider, Viconia was originally going to have a far bigger role in the Underdark sequence. She would betray your group and attempt to regain her status in drow society by becoming the woman who captured Bhaal's child, though she'd have a change of heart after realizing Matron Mother Ardulace would sacrifice her too, and break you out of captivity instead. This even had a resolution of sorts; when the party confronts Ardulace, the matron mother was to express surprise that Viconia would betray her, and offer to let her join House Despana, an offer Viconia declines. She still has a lot of unique flavour dialogue there, and essentially serves as the best possible Underdark guide of the playable characters.
- Affably Evil: Compared to most evil companions. Sure, she's a jerk, but she can show genuine politeness and gratitude to those on her "approval list". She's also sane and stable, being the only recurring Evil party member who isn't crazy in some way.
- All Girls Want Bad Boys: In order to successfully romance Viconia, you must not appear to be weak or submissive to her during the early stages of the romance. Unless you choose options that make you seem self-confident and somewhat cocky she'll quickly lose interest in you.
- Beauty Mark
- Betty and Veronica - She's the Veronica.
- Birth-Death Juxtaposition - Her ending.
- Bittersweet Ending - If the protagonist falls in love with her, this is her ending. It's widely panned by fans of her for being completely nonsensical as well. Killing a Properly Paranoid epic level cleric with poison? Not happening. Rather than fix this like some had hoped, all the Ascension mod does is try and hamfistedly justify it by stating outright that the poison used was a super-special epic poison brewed by Lolth herself.
- Yeah, plus, your epic level Bhaalspawn can't bring her back from the dead... Why? Hell, even if a god like Lolth was involved, it's not like they're inviolate in the FR setting...
- What's really egregious is that Viconia's non-romantic ending is happier than her romantic one: she fights alongside Drizzt Do'Urden and becomes a hero.
- There's a mod to fix this of course. Strangely, It's in Edwin's romance mod. The writer just liked Viconia and threw in a happy romantic ending for her as a separate component of the mod.
- Black Widow - During her romance, she admits to having had four husbands before. The first three she apparently "killed for sport", while the last one, whom she actually feels a little guilty about, she caught in bed with her sister and so she set them both on fire. Given Viconia's... issues, it's hard to say how much of this is truth and how much of this is her either testing the protagonist, trying to drive him away, or both.
- Blessed with Suck - She has natural magic resistance, which comes in handy - except when she's critically injured in the middle of a battle and a healing spell fails on her.
- Broken Bird - Viconia has had a lot of nasty stuff happen to her, and it's left serious scars on her.
- Burn the Witch! - In the first game, you have to save her from a Flaming Fist mercenary hunting her down. In the second game, some fanatical Beshaba cultists are planning on literally doing this to her in the Government district. If you don't save her in either case, she dies.
- Can Not Spit It Out - Viconia has no problem sleeping with a male protagonist if you romance her, but admitting that she loves him proves to be very difficult for her.
- Character Development - She undergoes quite a bit, particularly if the PC romances her.
- Clingy Jealous Girl: Averted. If CHARNAME is romancing Viconia and has sex with the prostitute in Throne of Bhaal, Viconia will be more amused than anything else; believing that there's no way such a "low woman" could possibly pleasure CHARNAME as well as her and it will only make the player appreciate her more.
- On the other hand, she reacts with incredulity and frustration if you flirt with her fellow drow Phaere in the Underdark. She's more understanding if you choose to sleep with Phaere (at least compared to Aerie and Jaheira), but she still notes that she'd love to kill Phaere herself would it not risk your disguise.
- Dark Action Girl - A heroic example.
- Dark and Troubled Past - Where do we begin...?
- Firstly, she's a drow, so that means she has torments in her past by definition; four dead husbands, a dead sister, etcetera.
- Then she finds she has a limit to what she will do and refuses to sacrifice a baby to Lolth, condemning her to death as a heretic.
- Her beloved brother Valas helps her flee to the surface, but is caught and punished with the Drider transformation.
- On the surface, she finds shelter with a Calimshan merchant, but has to trade sexual favors to him... and then the overweight pervert up and has a heart attack mid-coitus, forcing her to run as her guards accuse her of murdering him.
- When the player encounters her in the first game, she's being pursued by a Flaming Fist mercenary who wants to kill her pretty much just for being a drow.
- In the interim between the two games, she tries to buy a small farm outside of Beregost and just live a peaceful life. No matter how benevolent the protagonist was there, she ends up being tricked, knocked over the head, "tortured and abused" (which some consider euphemism for "raped") and buried alive.
- When the player encounters her in the second game, she's been captured by Beshaba cultists and is about to be Burned At The Stake, again just for being a drow.
- Deadpan Snarker - And how.
- Defrosting Ice Queen - At times. She tends to freeze back up again however (see Tsundere below).
- Deliver Us from Evil - Regardless of whether her alignment change is triggered, her romance ending shows that having CHARNAME's child makes her nicer.
- Diabolus ex Machina - What happens to her in her ending if she's the main character's love interest.
- Distress Ball - In both games, she manages to independently get herself captured by xenophobic fanatics, requiring you to save her from being burned at the stake. Or, if you prefer, you can just leave her... though the fanatics claim to want to kill her because she's evil (technically true), she hasn't actually committed any crimes. Unless you count the serial murders she committed in her backstory.
- Even Evil Has Standards: The entire reason she's on the surface stems from her inability to kill a baby.
- Fantastic Racism - Your reputation goes down if she joins the party.
- She also displays quite a bit of Fantastic Racism herself, towards pretty much every race other than Drow.
- Femme Fatale - Sorta, though you don't have to go along with her machinations if you don't want to.
- Fish out of Water - Though she's said to have been on the surface for many years, Viconia still has trouble adjusting to the ways of its people.
- Heel-Face Turn - If the protagonist romances her, he can turn her from Neutral Evil to True Neutral.
- Her non-romance ending also implies one. Teaming up with Drizzt and saves Sundanasellar (again) and accepts a place among them.
- Hey, It's That Voice! - Averted, even within the game. You probably wouldn't know unless you were told that Viconia shares a voice actress with Nalia. And Raelis Shai. And Illasera of the Five. Although you'd probably notice she sounds a lot like Azula. Grey DeLisle is a really good voice actress.
- In Love with Your Carnage - The other three potential love interests are disturbed by the PC's sinister heritage and ability to wreak destruction, but Viconia is quite attracted to it.
- It Burns!: In Baldur's Gate 1 during day time hours she'll randomly exclaim: "The light! It burns!" There's no in-game effect though.
- It's Not You, It's My Enemies: Ultimately why she breaks off the relationship during Baldur's Gate 2. It can be rekindled in Throne of Bhaal.
- Jerkass - Viconia will insult other party members for no apparent reason beyond spite, mocking, for example, Jaheira for being half-elven, Valygar for being dirty, Minsc for being as thick as a brick sandwich, and Aerie for her religion.
- Averted in the first game. She will actually compliment Jaheira or Dynaheir if one or both are in your group. No, really.
- Could be considered a Jerkass Woobie. It's easy to feel sorry for her knowing how others have treated her (mostly because of her race rather than manners), and easy to feel angry at her for the way she treats others.
'''Viconia: "You are one of those among us whom I can respect."
- Jerkass Has a Point: Frequently. She is quick to call good aligned characters out when they start picking on her for being evil, even if she haven't done anything in-game.
- Lady Macbeth - If an evil male protagonist romances her, she actively supports and encourages his ambitions.
- Licensed Sexist - Rare female-to-male version. Viconia hasn't given up much of her drow tendencies yet.
- A Lighter Shade of Black: She may be evil, but she's a Saint compared to most drow.
- Love Is a Weakness - Subscribes to this to begin with.
- Love Redeems - Goes up there with Heel-Face Turn.
- Morality Pet: Back when she still lived in the Underdark, she had one in the form of her brother Valas, of whom she was fond. As punishment for saving her after she refused to sacrifice an infant to Lloth, he was turned into a Drider, which haunts her to this day.
- My Species Doth Protest Too Much - Kind of a subversion: most drow in these types of stories are Chaotic Good types rebelling against their horrible world, while Viconia simply doesn't enjoy it. Still, she's nowhere as evil as the typical drow.
- Neutral Evil - Though she swings between this and True Neutral.
- Pet the Dog - She gets a few moments, such as when she shames a guard who chases off a beggar near the location that she herself was almost burned at the stake some time earlier. The guard relents that if a drow woman is willing to come to the defense of a human beggar, he must surely not have been illegally begging after all. If a character points this out, she says it was not done out of any particular compassion for the beggar, but born from her contempt for the hypocritical system of "justice" she sees on the surface world.
- Please Dump Me - She invokes this a few times during her Romance Sidequest.
- Rape as Backstory - Although not explicitly stated, Viconia mentions that she was "abused and tortured" by a farmer and his sons before they buried her alive. Many players believe this to mean that she was raped.
- Religion of Evil - She's a priestess in one of the setting's many Religions of Evil, though it doesn't play any part in the plot.
- Sex Goddess - If romanced, Viconia will boast more than once about her skills in the arts of pleasure. For example, she admits to trading sexual favors to a Calimshan merchant for safety after escaping to the surface; unfortunately for her, she was so skilled he had a heart attack from... er, "excitement", and she had to run away because the guards assumed she'd murdered him deliberately.
- Shaming the Mob: She tries this in the second game when she's about to be burnt. It fails. Revisiting the town later can lead to an amusing exchange between Viconia and a city guardsman, where she harangues him about not stepping in to save an innocent woman just the other day...
- Squishy Wizard - Though a cleric, Viconia is unsuited for the front lines. She has great dexterity and (in the second game) wisdom but lacks the strength to wear heavy armour and the constitution to take many hits.
- This can be subverted later in the second game, however, if the player has the components to forge Crom Faeyr. Due to being specialized with warhammers, Viconia can wield the weapon very effectively and, due to the massive enhanced strength bonus received from it (it raises the wielder's strength to 25), wear the heaviest armor possible as well as deal enormous melee damage on top of her already formidable Cleric abilities. She's still best placed in the middle of the group, but becomes a perfectly viable front line fighter.
- True Neutral: As mentioned above, she's Neutral Evil with a tendency towards True Neutral. After her optional Heel-Face Turn, those tendencies become permanent.
- Tsundere To quote:
Viconia: Bastard! Stubborn bastard! Why must I trust you?! WHY?! I will not be dominated! Stay away!
Viconia: You are not so terrible CHARNAME...for a male.
- What Is This Thing You Call Love? - An ongoing theme in her romance. Viconia came from a cruel society that considers love, trust, and compassion to be signs of weakness, so naturally, she struggles to understand these feelings within herself and in context to her relationship with CHARNAME.
- White Magician Girl - A complete inversion. She's a female healer (and probably the best one in the game), but she's mean, tempermental, ruthlessly ambitious, and turned on by violence.