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Boobs Of Steel is a very specific and narrowly-defined trope. In a work with at least two action girls, the action girl who is the best at fighting is the one with the biggest breasts. (It isn't a sliding scale; other action girls can have any cup size as long as the biggest goes to the best fighter).

That is not how people use the trope. Here is a wick check I did.

  • Correct usage: 18/52 (and some of those are being charitable)
  • Action girl has breasts: 26/52
  • Woman has breasts: 2/52
  • Unclear: 8/52

So we see that not only is the trope misused over half the time, at least half the misuse is just noting that women in action series have visible bosoms, which is not tropeable.

I suspect the trope as defined is valid; the issue seems to be the name. It sounds like it's the female counterpart to Balls of Steel, when in fact it's completely unrelated.

So I propose a rename to something clearer. Best Battler Has Biggest Breasts or something, but less clunky.

I'd like to page ~lexii, who started the thread that got me to finally make this proposal.

Wick check:

Wick check for Boobs Of Steel.

52 wicks were checked. Fractions add up to a little over 1 because in a couple of cases there were multiple examples on a page.

A few of the examples listed here as valid are ambiguous, and I made a judgement call as I'm not familiar with most of these.

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    Correct usage: 18/ 52 
The Fan
  • Boobs of Steel: It comes with the build. She well endowed, and has shown hints of being able to fight.

Precarious Woman Executive Miss Black General (Note: The first subbullet is incorrect but the second one is accurate, so I'm going to list this under correct usage)

  • Boobs Of Steel:
    • Impact has a decently big chest, being slightly smaller than the General, which does well to signify that despite being strong enough to be one of the Top 4 Heroes, her debilitatingly massive appetite, which causes her to lose her strength if she misses a meal, prevents her from being as effective a powerhouse as she could be.
    • Mother Justice has the absolute largest chest among the entire female cast, visibly beating out the General by 1-2 cup sizes, and she is far and away the strongest hero in the story, to the point that she's The Dreaded for the next 3 strongest heroes.

Shadow Hearts

  • Boobs Of Steel: The strongest fighter in the first half of the game next to Yuri, and even at the end, she and Keith are the strongest. And of course, she's far more buxom than Alice.

Characters/Shadowverse

  • Boobs Of Steel: Magic variation, she has the largest breast size when compared to the other female characters.

Battleborn LLC

  • Boobs Of Steel: One of the few female Battleborns whose methods of attack are dedicated to melee, comprised with stats to compensate the inability to block direct attacks or hide behind the frontlines while having a bust that is easily recognizable to her outfit compared to the other well-dressed femme fatales.

Stuff Of Legends

Juuni Jumon

  • Boobs Of Steel: She’s one of the more powerful characters. Needless to say, she has the largest chest in the series.

The Fiery Blush Of Dawn

Black Lagoon

A New Age

  • Boobs Of Steel: She has at least a D-cup, can easily dish out the most damage in combat

Earth Twenty Seven The Justice League

  • Boobs Of Steel: As you may have noticed, Karen is rather buxom. And being a Kryptonian she's one of the strongest heroes DC has to offer.

Fire Emblem - Recurring Characters

  • Boobs Of Steel: Called "The Voice", the daughter of Naga the Divine Dragon, and extremely powerful and long-lived in her own right. AND by the time she reappears in Awakening as an adult, she's among the bustiest of the cast, perhaps only behind Aversa and Tharja. Even further hammered home when she appears in a bikini as part of Heroes' "Ylissean Summer" Banner - without the dress to cover them up, it's clear she's buxom enough to give Camilla a run for her money. As icing on the cake, Female Robin, who is also revealed to be fairly well-endowed in the same Banner, is decisively smaller in comparison to Tiki when looking at both in swimwear side-by-side.

Punishing: Gray Raven - Playable Constructs

  • Boobs Of Steel: Has the largest bust thus far, and is a very physical fighter who uses a very large weapon.

Dragon Age: Inquisition – The Inquisitor

  • Boobs Of Steel: In addition to being the most physically imposing, a female Qunari inquisitor is bustier than human, elf, or dwarf inquisitors.

A New Hope (Danganronpa)

Unbreakable Red Silken Thread Secondary Characters

  • Boobs Of Steel: She has these just like in cannon, in chapter 11 she confirms they're a Double D 42. She is also probably the strongest character in the entire story so far.

StarCraft: Ghosts

  • Boobs Of Steel: She's definitely stacked, and she's strong enough to throw a Terran Marine in full power armor over her shoulder.

DCAMU: Justice League

    Action girl has breasts: 26/ 52 

Skeleton Knight in Another World

  • Boobs Of Steel: She's one of the deadliest Dark Elves and is quite stacked.

The Origin of the Keys

  • Boobs Of Steel: Downplayed. Ronka's got some curves, but they haven't been given much focus yet.

My One-Hit Kill Sister

  • Boobs Of Steel: Both Maya and Kilmaria are well-endowed women who are the two most powerful beings in the fantasy world.

Dark Deity

God Couple

.hack//First Generation

  • Boobs Of Steel: Even as the other players do get stronger, Ouka is the only main team member (aka not Balmung) to be able to take an enemy down in one hit. Hell, her first scene in human form is beating the crap out of a data-bugged skeleton with her fists, something that gave everyone else trouble. Of course, that also falls into Rule of Funny whether or not she's able to.

Video Game/Drakensang

Megami Device

BlazBlue

  • Bullet also strongly resembles Angel in, eh... build, hair colour, dress sense and fighting style, though their personalities couldn't be further from each other.
[[//quoteblock]]

Project Naruko

  • Boobs Of Steel: Leigh and Mai Giru, who Naruko nicknames 'Busty boobs' and 'Super-busty-boobs-sensei' because of this.

Dead Mount Death Play

  • Boobs Of Steel: Clarissa's core cadre of assassins is all women with sizable busts, including Zaki.

7 Seeds

Incredibles 2 (Helen might be a valid example, but the example as written takes the trope to mean "big breasts" rather than "bigger than the other action girls")

  • Fanservice Pack: Helen was redesigned to be more buxom and toned, and Violet has slightly wider hips than in the first movie. Violet and Tony also received upgraded designs, the former also having longer hair.
[[quoteblock]]

High School D×D: SLASHDØG (one or the other might be a valid example, but they can't both be). [[quoteblock]]

  • Boobs Of Steel: The Harem King Memorial artbook listed her boobs size at 100 cm, surpassing the likes of Rias.
  • Boobs Of Steel: As the head of the Himejima family she is a powerful mystic with an immense purification ability. She also ties with her cousin as having the biggest recorded breasts in the series at 102cm.

Vainglory

  • Boobs Of Steel: Every female hero in the game have sizable busts, and all are badasses.
[[quoteblock]]

Black Widow [[quoteblock]]

[[quoteblock]]

Manga/Freezing [[quoteblock]]

  • Boobs Of Steel: Generally prevalent among the stronger and strongest cast members, particularly Satellizer and later, Cassandra, but some characters such as Charles Bonaparte are extremely skilled and very petite in build.

Punishing: Gray Raven - Playable Constructs

  • Boobs Of Steel: She's typically not this as she's a long-ranged fighter, but her Abystigma frame puts her into this category by both making her an incredibly powerful melee combatant and most overtly showing off her ample bust.

Call of the Night

Stargate Universe

  • Boobs Of Steel: Lt. James has an incredible rack and is the only female character to have engaged extensively in combat. She's good at it, including hand-to-hand — reference the brutal butt-stroke she deals out in "Divided" and when she "kills" Scott at the beginning of "Pain".

Azur Lane Sakura Empire Battlecruisers And Battleships

  • Boobs Of Steel: Has a quite sizable rack, and she's one of the strongest Sakura Empire battleships.

Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA

  • Angelica, full goddamn stop. The fans are already clamoring for her when she first appeared with her awesome Gilgamesh Install, and her following appearances gave her plenty of time to shine, what with The Reveal about this series' background and her awesome fight vs. Kuro and Miyu's brother. After her Heel–Face Turn, she's become even more popular as the fans jokingly said that she embodied "the perfect heroine for TYPE-MOON", with her combining traits of all three of Stay Nights heroines (blonde hair, Girlish Pigtails, big boobs', stoic yet honorable nature, and older sister-like personality).

Of Gemstones and Watches

  • Boobs Of Steel: Yang and Ceres have the largest busts and the hardest punches.

Wanna Be the Strongest in the World!

  • Boobs Of Steel: Tons. It's justified since many of the female characters are wrestlers.

Basara

A New Hope (Danganronpa)

  • Boobs Of Steel: She's quite fit and very well endowed. Her large chest somehow doesn't affect her running. Anna is confused by this, and how she got them.

    Woman has breasts: 2/ 52 
Victorious - The Group
  • Boobs Of Steel: She's one of the bustier girls of the main cast, and she's no slouch in the physical strength department, either, as her Action Girl entry shows.

Cupid's Chocolates

  • Boobs Of Steel: Tang Xuan supposedly has the largest chest of the main characters, and she's also a very tough tomboy.

    Unclear: 8/ 52 
Super Rivals

Yatagarasu

[[quoteblock]]

Fabricant 100 [[quoteblock]]

  • Boobs Of Steel: One of No. 100's clear characteristics beside her strength is her very large breasts size.

Furry Fight Chronicles

  • Boobs Of Steel: She has one of the largest busts among the characters and is one of the three leaders of her biker gang.
[[quoteblock]]

Survival in Another World with My Mistress! [[quoteblock]]

  • Boobs Of Steel: Sylphy is quite stacked, and one of the most lethal ground combatants in the series.

Ben-To

  • Boobs Of Steel: Zig-zagged. Ayame is the bustiest character (so far) but is below a less-endowed Yarizui in terms of fighting capability, but Matsy used to be the "Monarch Butterfly", the strongest Wolf in the east, and she's bustier (even back then) than Yarizui is.

Adaptational Curves

Sexy Cat Person

Conclusion: Fully half of the examples are cases of people thinking the trope is simply about action girls with visible bosoms, and that's not even all of it.

I suspect the issue is the name. It sounds like the female counterpart of Balls of Steel, but is a completely unrelated trope.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 10th 2023 at 6:11:56 AM

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#1: Jul 31st 2023 at 4:01:43 AM

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    Original post 
Boobs Of Steel is a very specific and narrowly-defined trope. In a work with at least two action girls, the action girl who is the best at fighting is the one with the biggest breasts. (It isn't a sliding scale; other action girls can have any cup size as long as the biggest goes to the best fighter).

That is not how people use the trope. Here is a wick check I did.

  • Correct usage: 18/52 (and some of those are being charitable)
  • Action girl has breasts: 26/52
  • Woman has breasts: 2/52
  • Unclear: 8/52

So we see that not only is the trope misused over half the time, at least half the misuse is just noting that women in action series have visible bosoms, which is not tropeable.

I suspect the trope as defined is valid; the issue seems to be the name. It sounds like it's the female counterpart to Balls of Steel, when in fact it's completely unrelated.

So I propose a rename to something clearer. Best Battler Has Biggest Breasts or something, but less clunky.

I'd like to page ~lexii, who started the thread that got me to finally make this proposal.

Wick check:

Wick check for Boobs Of Steel.

52 wicks were checked. Fractions add up to a little over 1 because in a couple of cases there were multiple examples on a page.

A few of the examples listed here as valid are ambiguous, and I made a judgement call as I'm not familiar with most of these.

    open/close all folders 

    Correct usage: 18/ 52 
The Fan
  • Boobs of Steel: It comes with the build. She well endowed, and has shown hints of being able to fight.

Precarious Woman Executive Miss Black General (Note: The first subbullet is incorrect but the second one is accurate, so I'm going to list this under correct usage)

  • Boobs Of Steel:
    • Impact has a decently big chest, being slightly smaller than the General, which does well to signify that despite being strong enough to be one of the Top 4 Heroes, her debilitatingly massive appetite, which causes her to lose her strength if she misses a meal, prevents her from being as effective a powerhouse as she could be.
    • Mother Justice has the absolute largest chest among the entire female cast, visibly beating out the General by 1-2 cup sizes, and she is far and away the strongest hero in the story, to the point that she's The Dreaded for the next 3 strongest heroes.

Shadow Hearts

  • Boobs Of Steel: The strongest fighter in the first half of the game next to Yuri, and even at the end, she and Keith are the strongest. And of course, she's far more buxom than Alice.

Characters/Shadowverse

  • Boobs Of Steel: Magic variation, she has the largest breast size when compared to the other female characters.

Battleborn LLC

  • Boobs Of Steel: One of the few female Battleborns whose methods of attack are dedicated to melee, comprised with stats to compensate the inability to block direct attacks or hide behind the frontlines while having a bust that is easily recognizable to her outfit compared to the other well-dressed femme fatales.

Stuff Of Legends

Juuni Jumon

  • Boobs Of Steel: She’s one of the more powerful characters. Needless to say, she has the largest chest in the series.

The Fiery Blush Of Dawn

Black Lagoon

A New Age

  • Boobs Of Steel: She has at least a D-cup, can easily dish out the most damage in combat

Earth Twenty Seven The Justice League

  • Boobs Of Steel: As you may have noticed, Karen is rather buxom. And being a Kryptonian she's one of the strongest heroes DC has to offer.

Fire Emblem - Recurring Characters

  • Boobs Of Steel: Called "The Voice", the daughter of Naga the Divine Dragon, and extremely powerful and long-lived in her own right. AND by the time she reappears in Awakening as an adult, she's among the bustiest of the cast, perhaps only behind Aversa and Tharja. Even further hammered home when she appears in a bikini as part of Heroes' "Ylissean Summer" Banner - without the dress to cover them up, it's clear she's buxom enough to give Camilla a run for her money. As icing on the cake, Female Robin, who is also revealed to be fairly well-endowed in the same Banner, is decisively smaller in comparison to Tiki when looking at both in swimwear side-by-side.

Punishing: Gray Raven - Playable Constructs

  • Boobs Of Steel: Has the largest bust thus far, and is a very physical fighter who uses a very large weapon.

Dragon Age: Inquisition – The Inquisitor

  • Boobs Of Steel: In addition to being the most physically imposing, a female Qunari inquisitor is bustier than human, elf, or dwarf inquisitors.

A New Hope (Danganronpa)

Unbreakable Red Silken Thread Secondary Characters

  • Boobs Of Steel: She has these just like in cannon, in chapter 11 she confirms they're a Double D 42. She is also probably the strongest character in the entire story so far.

StarCraft: Ghosts

  • Boobs Of Steel: She's definitely stacked, and she's strong enough to throw a Terran Marine in full power armor over her shoulder.

DCAMU: Justice League

    Action girl has breasts: 26/ 52 

Skeleton Knight in Another World

  • Boobs Of Steel: She's one of the deadliest Dark Elves and is quite stacked.

The Origin of the Keys

  • Boobs Of Steel: Downplayed. Ronka's got some curves, but they haven't been given much focus yet.

My One-Hit Kill Sister

  • Boobs Of Steel: Both Maya and Kilmaria are well-endowed women who are the two most powerful beings in the fantasy world.

Dark Deity

God Couple

.hack//First Generation

  • Boobs Of Steel: Even as the other players do get stronger, Ouka is the only main team member (aka not Balmung) to be able to take an enemy down in one hit. Hell, her first scene in human form is beating the crap out of a data-bugged skeleton with her fists, something that gave everyone else trouble. Of course, that also falls into Rule of Funny whether or not she's able to.

Video Game/Drakensang

Megami Device

BlazBlue

  • Bullet also strongly resembles Angel in, eh... build, hair colour, dress sense and fighting style, though their personalities couldn't be further from each other.
[[//quoteblock]]

Project Naruko

  • Boobs Of Steel: Leigh and Mai Giru, who Naruko nicknames 'Busty boobs' and 'Super-busty-boobs-sensei' because of this.

Dead Mount Death Play

  • Boobs Of Steel: Clarissa's core cadre of assassins is all women with sizable busts, including Zaki.

7 Seeds

Incredibles 2 (Helen might be a valid example, but the example as written takes the trope to mean "big breasts" rather than "bigger than the other action girls")

  • Fanservice Pack: Helen was redesigned to be more buxom and toned, and Violet has slightly wider hips than in the first movie. Violet and Tony also received upgraded designs, the former also having longer hair.
[[quoteblock]]

High School D×D: SLASHDØG (one or the other might be a valid example, but they can't both be). [[quoteblock]]

  • Boobs Of Steel: The Harem King Memorial artbook listed her boobs size at 100 cm, surpassing the likes of Rias.
  • Boobs Of Steel: As the head of the Himejima family she is a powerful mystic with an immense purification ability. She also ties with her cousin as having the biggest recorded breasts in the series at 102cm.

Vainglory

  • Boobs Of Steel: Every female hero in the game have sizable busts, and all are badasses.
[[quoteblock]]

Black Widow [[quoteblock]]

[[quoteblock]]

Manga/Freezing [[quoteblock]]

  • Boobs Of Steel: Generally prevalent among the stronger and strongest cast members, particularly Satellizer and later, Cassandra, but some characters such as Charles Bonaparte are extremely skilled and very petite in build.

Punishing: Gray Raven - Playable Constructs

  • Boobs Of Steel: She's typically not this as she's a long-ranged fighter, but her Abystigma frame puts her into this category by both making her an incredibly powerful melee combatant and most overtly showing off her ample bust.

Call of the Night

Stargate Universe

  • Boobs Of Steel: Lt. James has an incredible rack and is the only female character to have engaged extensively in combat. She's good at it, including hand-to-hand — reference the brutal butt-stroke she deals out in "Divided" and when she "kills" Scott at the beginning of "Pain".

Azur Lane Sakura Empire Battlecruisers And Battleships

  • Boobs Of Steel: Has a quite sizable rack, and she's one of the strongest Sakura Empire battleships.

Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA

  • Angelica, full goddamn stop. The fans are already clamoring for her when she first appeared with her awesome Gilgamesh Install, and her following appearances gave her plenty of time to shine, what with The Reveal about this series' background and her awesome fight vs. Kuro and Miyu's brother. After her Heel–Face Turn, she's become even more popular as the fans jokingly said that she embodied "the perfect heroine for TYPE-MOON", with her combining traits of all three of Stay Nights heroines (blonde hair, Girlish Pigtails, big boobs', stoic yet honorable nature, and older sister-like personality).

Of Gemstones and Watches

  • Boobs Of Steel: Yang and Ceres have the largest busts and the hardest punches.

Wanna Be the Strongest in the World!

  • Boobs Of Steel: Tons. It's justified since many of the female characters are wrestlers.

Basara

A New Hope (Danganronpa)

  • Boobs Of Steel: She's quite fit and very well endowed. Her large chest somehow doesn't affect her running. Anna is confused by this, and how she got them.

    Woman has breasts: 2/ 52 
Victorious - The Group
  • Boobs Of Steel: She's one of the bustier girls of the main cast, and she's no slouch in the physical strength department, either, as her Action Girl entry shows.

Cupid's Chocolates

  • Boobs Of Steel: Tang Xuan supposedly has the largest chest of the main characters, and she's also a very tough tomboy.

    Unclear: 8/ 52 
Super Rivals

Yatagarasu

[[quoteblock]]

Fabricant 100 [[quoteblock]]

  • Boobs Of Steel: One of No. 100's clear characteristics beside her strength is her very large breasts size.

Furry Fight Chronicles

  • Boobs Of Steel: She has one of the largest busts among the characters and is one of the three leaders of her biker gang.
[[quoteblock]]

Survival in Another World with My Mistress! [[quoteblock]]

  • Boobs Of Steel: Sylphy is quite stacked, and one of the most lethal ground combatants in the series.

Ben-To

  • Boobs Of Steel: Zig-zagged. Ayame is the bustiest character (so far) but is below a less-endowed Yarizui in terms of fighting capability, but Matsy used to be the "Monarch Butterfly", the strongest Wolf in the east, and she's bustier (even back then) than Yarizui is.

Adaptational Curves

Sexy Cat Person

Conclusion: Fully half of the examples are cases of people thinking the trope is simply about action girls with visible bosoms, and that's not even all of it.

I suspect the issue is the name. It sounds like the female counterpart of Balls of Steel, but is a completely unrelated trope.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 10th 2023 at 6:11:56 AM

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#2: Jul 31st 2023 at 4:25:03 AM

Opened. Renaming sounds fine since the current name doesn't clearly indicate that it's related to physical strength.

I don't think the suggestion you gave is bad (or at least not as bad as the current name), but perhaps someone could come up with something that's shorter while still getting the point across.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 31st 2023 at 6:28:18 AM

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#3: Jul 31st 2023 at 4:37:30 AM

Boobs of Power.

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#4: Jul 31st 2023 at 4:39:43 AM

^ That's not much of an improvement and it still runs the risk of people of misusing the trope for any Action Girl with a large chest.

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#7: Jul 31st 2023 at 5:00:28 AM

[up]I think it would be better to be specific about what the contrast is, which is why I think the OP's suggestion is an improvement over the current despite being kind of long.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 31st 2023 at 7:01:07 AM

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#8: Jul 31st 2023 at 5:05:28 AM

[up] I prefer the OP as well because I can't describe it without using a whole sentence.

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#9: Jul 31st 2023 at 5:41:15 AM

That rename suggestion reemphasizes something I was already thinking - is this actually a trope, or just a recurring cherry-picked coincidence? Like, I've never really seen anything to indicate that this is actually a conscious design choice, for contrast or other purposes.

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#10: Jul 31st 2023 at 5:54:35 AM

[up] I've wanted to call it Tropes in Aggregate and just disambig, but Analysis.Boobs Of Steel and wick check having 18 examples made me hesitate.

Edited by Amonimus on Jul 31st 2023 at 3:54:45 PM

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#11: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:03:49 AM

[up][up]Now that you mention it, maybe it is a coincidence.

if that's the case, maybe disambiguating between related tropes (or simply redirecting to either Fanservice or The World's Breast Tropes) would be better than renaming.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 31st 2023 at 8:05:52 AM

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#12: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:05:51 AM

I was never sure this was a trope to be begin with. Never heard of the concept mentioned outside of TVT. I don't think creators consciously scale their characters like this.

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#13: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:06:22 AM

I'm changing my vote to getting rid of it now that whether it's a real trope is being called into question. I don't have a strong opinion on whether to disambiguate or redirect.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 31st 2023 at 8:07:05 AM

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#14: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:06:49 AM

[tup] Disambig or cut

EDIT: [down] Good point.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jul 31st 2023 at 9:10:18 AM

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#15: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:08:07 AM

I don't think we can do a full-fledged cut due to how many inbounds this has.

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#16: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:14:20 AM

Disambig up!

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#17: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:16:35 AM

Yeah, let's just disambiguate.

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#18: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:31:45 AM

So if we disambiguate, it would be between Most Common Superpower and what else?

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#19: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:36:33 AM

Here's the trope talk thread that inspired the thread

If this is kept, I feel it should focus on body type than just vague "power". Something like Bulky Build Big Breasts.

Otherwise; disambiguate between tropes like Most Common Superpower, Buxom Beauty Standard, Heroic Build, or just redirect to The World's Breast Tropes.

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#20: Jul 31st 2023 at 6:51:04 AM

IDK, I vote to rename the trope

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#21: Jul 31st 2023 at 7:23:15 AM

I didn't see the Trope Talk thread until it was linked to here, but I took a look and saw whether this is a real trope was questioned there as well.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 31st 2023 at 9:23:28 AM

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#22: Jul 31st 2023 at 7:26:06 AM

Hang on a second; I took a closer look at the wick check and some of the examples classified as "correct" (including the first one) don't feature any contrast with other characters, while some list multiple characters simultaneously despite this supposedly being about a single character standing out, and some are ZCEs, making me further doubt that this is a real trope.

Either way, the fact that the amount of examples that actually fit the definition is smaller than what was claimed makes me feel that salvaging this wouldn't be easy even if it did turn out that these aren't mere coincidences.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 31st 2023 at 9:30:44 AM

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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#24: Jul 31st 2023 at 9:29:22 AM

Oh, yeah, neglected to mention that I became even more in favor of scrapping it after the observation I mentioned in my previous post.

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#25: Jul 31st 2023 at 10:46:41 AM

Since it doesn't seem to have been said, I want to clarify that the trope is supposed to be about physical strength and hand-to-hand fighting in particular. So in other words, a female sniper or magic-user, no matter how good in a fight, wouldn't count.

That said, I wouldn't be sad to see this trope go.

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Boobs Of Steel is heavily misused, and there are doubts that it's even a real trope. What should be done with it?

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