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  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Hinted at by Word of God. Big Bad Wilhelm's plot involves resetting time over and over again to avoid the universe's eventual destruction. The characters argue that endlessly repeating the same thing simply for the sake of existence is meaningless, and put a stop to it. At this point Wilhelm may seem like a Well-Intentioned Extremist at best and pure evil at worst (he's directly or indirectly responsible for everything that happens in the series, including each character's individual traumas), but the post-game database suggests that the party's rejection of his plan was actually what he wanted, and that by continually resetting the universe he was actually "training" the collective consciousness of humanity to move on and find a way to avoid the universe's destruction, putting him in a much more positive light.
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  • Base-Breaking Character: Shion. For her detractors, she's obnoxious, selfish and overall unlikable. For her defenders, she's a compelling female protagonist (in a genre where those are extremely rare to boot) who manages to stay strong despite suffering massively from Deus Angst Machina and has an engaging Character Development, which makes her very sympathetic.
  • Catharsis Factor: If Shion's behavior through the series is a source of frustration to you, you get the chance to work your issues out on her face late in the third game. Enjoy.
  • Draco in Leather Pants: Albedo is an unquestionably horrifying, sadistic, Ax-Crazy pedophile who enjoys terrorizing and murdering small robot girls - but he has white hair, so he's probably just misunderstood. May also count as Laughably Evil; he takes Ax-Crazy and sadomasochism to new heights but god, he does it with such hamminess.
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  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Orgulla, a schizophrenic fundamentalist cyborg boss from Episode II that is never heard from again after the fight with her.
  • Evil Is Sexy: Well, sexier if you compare T-elos to KOS-MOS. "You haven't got the best of me. Hardly."
  • Faux Symbolism: It's difficult to tell how much is gratuitous and how much is really symbolic given the themes and plot. In general, Xenosaga is much worse about it than the Shown Their Work Xenogears, and Xenoblade, although that's because there's less of it there.
  • Foe Yay:
    • T-elos really wants to merge with KOS-MOS, whether she wants to or not.
    • Black testament wants to spend his eternal life with Ziggy, after killing him.
  • Fridge Brilliance:
    • Jr.'s best weapon in I was the Blood M9, which becomes his first weapon in III because there is no equipment changing in II.
    • At the beginning of Episode I, it's mentioned how Virgil has a condition stemming from the consumption of Realian Tissue. At the time, you're told this is treated like a kind of drug to some people, and Shion is horrified at the implications. Later, you discover that the Realian Febronia donated some of her organs to him to save his life, and then suddenly everything clicks into place.
  • Game-Breaker:
    • Every iteration of Erde Kaiser. In the first game it's guaranteed to do 9999 damage, meaning the only enemy in the game it can't one-shot is the final boss, which has about 16,000 HP. The second game remedies this by making it so that you can't actually get it till post-game.
    • Xenosaga I had the Bravesoul and Golden Dice items which both increased attack power as the equipper's HP got lower, letting the player get a maximum of about 200% damage. The drawback of dying in one hit could be controlled with Safety Limit, which guarantees survival with 1 HP once per cast. Jr. in particular makes a joke out of every boss in the game partly due to his exclusive Dandyism, which stacks with Safety Limit and has a similar effect, but also due to the items only working with physical attacks, which he packs more of than any other character in the game.
    • The Casino from which you purchase the aforementioned items also includes a healing item pack (consisting of a Med Kit, an Ether Pack, a Revive! and a Cure-All) for a paltry 100 coins. By playing Poker it is trivially easy to get several thousand coins for the work of minutes, insuring you'll never have to spend a single red cent on healing items ever again
    • Not as extreme, but for whatever reason, MOMO is ridiculously powerful in Xenosaga II. In the first dungeon, Jr, chaos, and Ziggy do around 50-100 damage. MOMO does close to 200 and never lets up as the game progresses. She can learn a skill that doubles Ether damage. For any other character useful, but for MOMO, incredible because her basic attack is Ether based.
    • Xenosaga III's ES battles became exponentially easier once you got your hands on the Level II Anima Awakenings, which hit most if not all mooks on the screen for ridiculous damage. You could simply charge these by walking into a battle and retreating over and over again, then firing off your BFG (or BFS) once full. Also a great way to grind for money and skill points later on.
    • Xenosaga III also brought you Blood Dancer, which let KOS-MOS and MOMO turn red. Then take down the final incarnation of aforementioned Erde Kaiser, itself a game breaker, singlehandedly. The reward, Erde Kaiser Sigma, who, when summoned by someone under the influence of MOMO's Magic-Attack buff, can One-Hit Kill the FINAL BOSS.
    • Xenosaga III tends to be filled with these. Jr. and Shion can essentially become invincible for a couple of turns via Phantom Fly, a Master Skill that allows them to evade essentially every attack in the game. While it is normally tempered by an absurdly high EP cost, there's an accessory that you can get with a relatively easy sidequest near the end of the game that reduces SP cost to 1. Add the two together, and you get either Jr. who can support with the best of them, or Shion, who can inflict reasonable damage, break, and heal. And are invincible.
  • Genius Bonus: There's a few of them littered throughout the trilogy, the most obvious being that Sellers is a not-so-subtle Captain Ersatz of Dr. Strangelove, who was played by Peter Sellers.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Jr. remarks how T-elos bears a striking resemblance to KOS-MOS, one can wonder how he'll react if he ever meets Elma.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Vergil. While Episode I showed him to be a racist bastard who hated Relians for seemingly no reason, Episode III revealed that it wasn't for no reason, driving him to became the cynic he is during the present.
  • Les Yay: Shion and KOS-MOS (it doesn't help that the latter is a Robot Girl with the combat capabilities of a battleship... though it doesn't hurt it either.)
  • Memetic Molester: Albedo is a little too fond with MOMO.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • You will not be able to hang around Xenosaga forums or watch Xenosaga videos for very long without hearing "SHION. MY APPEARANCE IS DOWN 5%. I NEED TO BE CLEANED." You just won't. She keeps the line as a joke in all of her crossover appearances.
      • Namco Bandai even hopped on the bandwagon with Tales of the Abyss. There is a doll that Anise can get (the Artificial Life Form) that gives Tokunaga KOS-MOS's visor, the X-BUSTER arte/attack, and the end battle quote of "Enemy appearance down 5%. They are nothing."
    • Helmer's "UUUUUUUUUUUU-DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" line from Episode I has gotten a lot of this, particularly in LPs.
    • A good chunk of Albedo's dialog, with Ma Belle Peche being to most notable.
  • Misblamed: A lot of the notoriously long cutscenes gets blamed on the creators abusing Auteur License and getting carried away with the story they wanted to tell. However, the developers revealed that the long cutscenes are actually Padding used to get around the fact that the game had quite a Troubled Production in which they had difficulty getting the gameplay engine to work correctly until a year before the game released.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • While it has been trampled to bits by the many villains of the series, the most obvious and earliest example takes place for the character Virgil. When you meet him in the first game, he hates Realians with a passion and has even eaten their flesh in the past. He crosses the Horizon when he decides, in order to protect himself from an oncoming swarm of Gnosis, to input the Override code into some nearby Realians and then self destructs them.
    • Yuriev crosses it when he uses his appearance as Gaignun to get close to Mary - and shoot her in the gut.
      • He just gets worse, ordering Nigredo to kill all the URTVs who survived the upcoming Miltian conflict, especially URTV 666 (Rubedo, aka Jr.) because his Red Dragon mode posed a threat to Dmitri. Plus him planning to send all the URTVs except Nigredo into the conflict in the first place knowing that it was extremely likely to cause a reaction that would incinerate the surface of the planet (killing all of his URTV children as well as every living thing on the planet) and was callously planning to use that to further his own political position. His reaction to being questioned that it was worth it to destroy Miltia if it got rid of U-DO? Yes.
      • Furthermore, he orders the murder of every man, woman, child, and realian on the Durandel save the four people who were useful to him.
    • Voyager crosses it when he murders Ziggy's/Jan's wife and adopted son.
    • Albedo crosses it when he mind rapes MOMO.
  • One-Scene Wonder:
    • Orgulla is given a lot of characterization for the one boss fight you have with her and the cutscene before and after said fight, only to never be seen ever again. It's probably what made her such an Ensemble Dark Horse.
    • Although Patriarch Sergius XVII is the one of the primary antagonists of Episode II, he's a blip on the radar in the series as a whole.
  • Relationship Writing Fumble: The developers seemed to intend for KOS-MOS and Shion's relationship to appear platonic, but they typically appear MUCH closer than that. For what it's worth, the writers seem to flipflop between portraying their relationship as romantic or a mother-daughter one.
  • Robo Ship: Shion X KOS-MOS, or any ship involving KOS-MOS.
  • Scrappy Mechanic: The Stock system in Episode II, which slowed down the pace of the battles to a turtle's crawl.
  • Shocking Moments: Off the charts in the scene where Shion finds out that she made contact with the Zohar and summoned the Gnosis, leading to her Heroic BSoD.
  • Stoic Woobie: Jin truly has a sucktacular life, on par with Shion's but keeps it all to himself. Implied to be because he doesn't want to 'burden' Shion with his own problems, as he feels partly responsible for not being able to help Shion with hers.
  • Uncanny Valley: The sudden shift in art style for a more realistic approach in Episode II. Considering how big-eyed and distinct the designs were in the first game, the sudden jarring change was already bad enough as mentioned below. But the characters still had an anime approach in their movements, their expressions just didn't look quite right as they often veered into Dull Surprise, and other problems that resulted in a clash of what the game wanted to be and what it actually was.
  • The Un-Twist: The identities of the Red and White Testaments, Kevin and Albedo, are foreshadowed with numerous heavy-handed hints and are both blindingly obvious by the end of Episode II. To smash the point home, their Episode III character art shows them both unmasked, obliterating any residual shock that would have come from The Reveal in the game itself.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: A good deal of the problems with Episode II were the result of this. Several of the voice actors were changed, the art style was changed to a more realistic look, which is bad if you liked the old look, and the battle system was changed, probably for the worse due to the above mentioned scrappy mechanic. The drama with said changes was so bad, the admin of the fansite (who was the biggest fansite at the time) would ban anyone on the forums if that person defended the game.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not Symbolic?:
    • Nephilim's necklace is in the shape of a cross, her name is a direct reference to the giants from the Bible who created the Great Flood... let's not get started on the symbolism behind the white and her possible relation to Elly.
    • Virgil was the name of Dante's guide from The Divine Comedy and the writer of The Aeneid.
  • The Woobie:
    • Momo tries to be cheerful even though she has a madman father, distant mother, and is perpetually tormented by her possession of the Y-Data. She definitely needs a hug.
    • Shion goes through a lot of trauma here, especially during Episode III and the arc on Old Miltia.
    • Cherenkov. It says something about how awful his life was when meeting Margulis was best thing to happen to him.
  • Woolseyism: How some view the removal of the blood in Episode I. The bone-crunching noises (combined with Albedo's head turning at an angle that clearly looks like his neck is broken) made many players even more unnerved.


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