Hostility On The Set / Music

• AC/DC's Angus and Malcolm Young were frequently in conflict with early bassist Mark Evans. According to the brothers, they were never completely happy with Evans' musical ability or professionalism, and Evans only kept his job for several years and albums because the band's management didn't want any more lineup changes.
• The Allman Brothers Band's last album before their first breakup, Win, Lose or Draw was aptly titled for a session that was marked by constant fighting amongst the band. It had started with Gregg Allman missing the first day and the other band members, all as coked up as he was, angrily confronting him over his commitment to the band in the face of a solo project (Dicky Betts was one to talk about that, as he had his own solo project beckoning). Eventually, it got to the point where the producers had to put together the last, and universally reviled as the worst album of the band's original run, from whatever jams the band did do together early in the session and those parts that individual members could get done themselves later on (even still, rumor has it that the producers had to do some of the rhythm parts themselves).
• Tensions between Joey Belladonna and his fellow members of Anthrax peaked during the production of Persistence of Time. Joey was resistant to prodding from the others to alter his vocal style for the album; Scott Ian said, "I hated what he was doing and at the same time it was like we were pulling teeth to even get that out of him."
• When Atomic Kitten were on their third album, tensions between Natasha Hamilton and Jenny Frost were very high. Natasha was dealing with postnatal depression and her commitments to the group had slipped - leading to her no-showing several publicity events. Right before a photoshoot, Natasha turned up with a new hairstyle identical to Jenny's. Things got very heated once they went on their tour - and Natasha even no-showed a gig in Dublin because she'd had a fight with the other two.
• The Beach Boys had this in spades. In fact, for much of their existence, they were divided into two camps. The first camp were the supporters of the "formula", wanting the band to stick to the conventional "surf, car, and sun" pop songs that first put them on the map consisting of Mike Love, Al Jardine, and Bruce Johnston. They were opposed by Carl Wilson and Dennis Wilson who wanted to continue to do more radical and experimental music that their brother Brian had been envisioning.
  • Brian Wilson and Mike Love are known to not get along with each other. Love sued Wilson for songwriting credits. During the 50th Anniversary Tour, he fired Brian, his onetime ally Al Jardine (whom he also had a falling out with), and David Marks (who was an original member of the band, re-enlisted to take Carl's place as lead guitarist).
  • Brothers Carl and Brian Wilson had a falling out in the mid-90s related to the infamous Andy Paley sessions. Carl disliked the material and he wasn't getting along with Brian's wife Melinda (they both wanted Brian to collaborate with different people). They did not mend their relationship until Carl was dying of cancer (they watched the Super Bowl together the week before Carl's death where the Beach Boys performed).
  • The most fraught relationship though was actually between Dennis and Mike. Both infamously had a Hair-Trigger Temper and had a very difficult relationship even in childhood. The two also engaged in fisticuffs several times. Once in the studio during an argument between Brian and Mike, Dennis physically leaped to Brian's defense and hit Mike. On another occasion, Dennis and Mike got into an argument over a joke Dennis made about drugs during a concert and Dennis started to pummel Mike in full view of the audience. They absolutely loathed each other.
  • Blondie Chaplin quit the band because the band's manager (and Mike's brother) Steve Love physically yanked gum out of Blondie's mouth during a dispute and then called him a racial slur.
• The Beatles had periods of this:
  • Recording engineer Norman Smith later stated that the studio sessions for Rubber Soul revealed signs of growing conflict within the group – "the clash between John and Paul was becoming obvious", he wrote, and "as far as Paul was concerned, George could do no right".
  • By the time Let It Be came about, the already tense relations between the band members reached a breaking point:
    • Paul McCartney tried to organise and encourage his bandmates, but his attempts to hold the band together and rally spirits were seen by the others as controlling and patronising.
    • McCartney and George Harrison got into a heated argument during the recording of "Two of Us".
    • Harrison got into a blazing row with John Lennon over creative disengagement from the band. According to journalist Michael Housego of The Daily Sketch, this descended into violence with them allegedly throwing punches at each other. Harrison denied this in a 16 January interview for the Daily Express, saying: "There was no punch-up. We just fell out."
• The Civil Wars towards the end of their second album in the early 2010s. It led to their tour being cancelled and the break up of the duo years ater.
• Cut the Crap was the title of the last Clash album because it fit the statement Joe Strummer was trying to make about getting back to the Three Chords and the Truth roots of punk, but it or some variant thereof was probably said at least a few times a day during the sessions, which began with Strummer and Paul Simonon kicking Mick Jones out of the band because he was getting to be too much of a rock star, followed by Topper Headon, who couldn't kick heroin long enough to record. Simonon might as well have left or been forced out as well, given his minimal contribution to what, on the face of things, looked like a Strummer solo album—most of the other instruments were played by unknown musicians the band had hired through anonymous ads in Melody Maker for a hundred pounds a week. However, Strummer and manager Bernie Rhodes fought bitterly, with Rhodes as determined to make a more "contemporary" Clash that could keep riding the musical tides for another several years as Strummer was to get back to where they once belonged. Rhodes was able to win and record the album his way by stealing the master tapes and adding plenty of synthesizers and effects to most of them; Strummer was so disgusted that, late in production, he tried to get Jones to come back. The result was an end to a once-great band as bitter as Let it Be or Win, Lose or Draw.
• Cream, a musical trio formed in 1966 comprised of Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce, and Ginger Baker, is widely considered the first supergroup ever. Unfortunately, while they're widely considered one of the best musical groups of all time, everyone knew from the beginning that they wouldn't last long:
  • Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker could not stand each other. Even before the band formed, they were notorious for getting into physical altercations with one another. The only reason the band formed was because they agreed to attempt to put aside their differences, while Clapton acted as the mediator in the group. This was a role Clapton wasn't equipped to handle, having been treated with kid gloves in his previous bands. The pressure would drive Clapton to tears, and close contact with notorious addict Baker would exacerbate his own substance abuse issues.
  • Clapton, however, had his own issues with the band. He felt like the third wheel of the group because they often focused too much on being LOUD. Clapton said in an interview that during a live performance, he actually walked out while Baker and Bruce were jamming very loudly, and nobody even noticed until they had stopped.
    • Another complaint that Clapton had with the band is that they did not communicate well enough, which may have lead to the aforementioned issue with them playing too loud for his liking.
  • In an attempt to calm the tensions between Bruce and Baker, Clapton tried to recruit his friend Steve Winwood to the band. Winwood refused, and the band announced their break-up and subsequent farewell tour in 1968, followed by a final album, appropriately titled "Goodbye", after only two years. All three of the members admitted that as tensions worsened, so did their performance. Baker said that it "Wasn't a gig, it was getting it over with...we knew it was over." Despite this, they did briefly reunite in 1993, and seemed to be getting along together once again, with Bruce saying that he would definitely do it again. And in 2005, they briefly reunited again at Clapton's request. This last set of shows predictably saw another blowup between Baker and Bruce over stage volume.
    • It would prove to be their last reunion, however, as Jack Bruce and especially Ginger Baker began to experience health issues that rendered it impossible for them to perform. Bruce died in 2014, and Baker in 2019; Eric Clapton is still very much alive.
• It's common knowledge that conflicts between the members of Creedence Clearwater Revival permeated the Troubled Production of their final album, Mardi Gras (1972), but the precise details are a matter of dispute. Either way, the tension eventually led to the breakup of the band after the album's release:
  • The part of the story that everybody basically agrees on is that Doug Clifford and Stu Cook were not big fans of John Fogerty's leadership — either because Clifford and Cook were envious of all the attention Fogerty received or because Clifford and Cook were fed up with Fogerty's dictatorial I Am the Band tendencies, depending on the source. (Aside from some covers like "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" and "Susie Q", John Fogerty wrote all the band's original material, produced it, arranged it, sang it, and played lead guitar.) It was because of John's egotism that his brother Tom quit CCR before the recording of Mardi Gras.
  • According to Clifford and Cook, Fogerty tasked them with composing their own individual songs for Mardi Gras, despite their reluctance to contributing more to the album than they were used to. (Which, from a writing, arranging, and lead vocal standpoint was up to that point zero.) To hear it from them, this was Fogerty's attempt to set them up to fail and be seen as inferior musicians; to reinforce this point, Fogerty did not involve himself in their songs.
  • In his autobiography, Fogerty states that it was Clifford and Cook's idea to individually contribute to the album, and that they basically forced him to give them greater power in the band's creative process.^note Fogerty refers to this incident as the "night of the generals" When Mardi Gras was released, Fogerty says, his bandmates blamed him for their songs being panned by critics.
  • No matter how exactly things went down, the failure of the album heralded the end of CCR not long afterwards, and the surviving members have literally spent the decades since suing each other.
• Deep Purple were so stressed from heavy touring when they went right back into the studio to do Who Do We Think We Are? that before production was over, it had reached the point where none of the members were willing to be in the studio with each other, necessitating careful scheduling by the producer and engineers to get the album finished. They were able to make up afterwards, although the experience contributed to Ian Gillan's departure after the ensuing tour.
• The reason why drummer Chris Pennie left The Dillinger Escape Plan. Chris and band leader Ben Weinman's relationship went south after Miss Machine released and couldn't work together on a personal or professional level. Tensions got so bad between the two Ben temporarily left the band during a tour with AFI cause he couldn't stand being around Chris. Chris eventually left the band to join Coheed and Cambria. Singer Greg Puciato explains more about the drama in this interview. Also, it's never been out right stated, but it's been heavily implied that Ben and Greg's worsening relationship played a small part in the band breaking up in 2017.
• The Doobie Brothers similar constant touring/recording schedule had brought them considerable success, but at great cost to their personal relationships. By the late 1970s, according to bassist Tiran Porter, "we were all pretty sick of each other", allowing replacement lead singer Michael McDonald to dominate the band by the time Minute by Minute was released. But those sessions and the subsequent tour cost them more members, and after their next album, One Step Closer, they were little more than McDonald's backing band.
• Eagles suffered from frequent internal conflicts, most of them stemming from founding member Glenn Frey, who made all sorts of enemies from initial producer Glyn Johns to bandmates Bernie Leadon and Don Felder. By the end of their first run, not even Don Henley, Frey's closest ally in the group, could stand him much.
  • During the recording of their final original album, The Long Run, Felder at one point told Frey "When this is all over, I'll kick your ass". Tensions boiled over at the band's final concert, in July 1980 in Long Beach, California. Sen. Alan Cranston and his wife had greeted the band backstage to thank them for performing at a benefit for his re-election, and Felder made a snarky comment to the couple that Frey took offense to. During the concert, with three songs left, Felder looked at Frey, held up three fingers and said "three songs left", to which Frey replied, "I can barely wait". Then the two joined for a harmonious rendition of "The Best of My Love". After the show the knock-down drag-out indeed happened, leaving quite a bit of damage in its waking.
  • And then the band still had to do a live album, which required some studio overdubs. Frey and Henley worked from studios on opposite coasts, unable to even be in the same state with each other. The joke was that the Postal Service deserved a producer credit on the ensuing, well-received Eagles Live.
• Emerson, Lake & Palmer's minimal output during their last years can be explained by their even more minimal willingness to work with each other. Love Beach, their last and most reviled album, came about only because of contractual obligations.
• During Fleetwood Mac's notoriously volatile period when everyone was breaking up with and/or cheating on everyone else in the band, the music videos for "Hold Me" and "Gypsy" were both filmed when various band members couldn't stand to be around each other. The former uses a lot of close up shots to disguise that they weren't actually near each other and shot their scenes separately, while the latter had Stevie Nicks be made to dance with Lindsey Buckingham, who she didn't want to be in the same room with, and she looks visibly uncomfortable doing so.
• Girls Aloud:
  • Nadine later revealed that the early days of the group, when she was the one chosen to get the most lead vocals, led to a lot of bitterness between the girls.
  • Sarah ended up losing contact with Nicola, Kimberly and Cheryl after the split - remaining only in contact with Nadine.
• At one point or another, it seems as if nearly every member of The Go-Go's has sued every other member of The Go-Go's, or has temporarily quit the band, or has at least threatened to do one or the other. Original bassist Margot Olavarria sued the band for wrongful dismissal; later bassist Kathy Valentine was fired, and sued (before being reinstated); drummer Gina Schock sued the band for breaching a songwriting agreement; and Jane Wiedlin basically couldn't take the behind-the-scenes hostilities and quit the band in 1984 (but returned for subsequent reunions.) As for the others, Charlotte Caffey didn't sue anyone or quit, but her serious drug addiction issues (eventually overcome) certainly created a great deal of backstage tension for a number of years. And no-one was happy with Belinda Carlisle's tell-all memoir ... but although there were rumblings, it stayed out of court.
• The Jacksons' Victory Tour was rife with this. Michael had been roped into doing the tour by his mother to help his brothers out and greatly resented doing so; his disgust with the soon-abandoned lottery ticket system didn't help. The brothers attempted to get some sort of unity with a rule that only they could ride in the vans to shows, but Michael soon broke it; by the time he let Julian Lennon fly with them on the helicopter to Giants Stadium, they were all glaring at him silently. Eventually it led to separate limos to shows for all of them, Michael even staying in a separate hotel, and Michael and Jermaine letting their lawyers stand in for them at the increasingly frequent meetings between the band, Don King and promoter Chuck Sullivan later in the tour as things started going really sour. Michael saved the coldest dish for last, telling the crowd at the rain-soaked tour finale in Dodger Stadium that this was to be the brothers' last performance together, stunning not only them but King and Joe Jackson, who had been all set to take the tour to Europe.
• The Kinks have had some tense periods when brothers Ray and Dave Davies were squabbling.^note Sometimes Dave would play badly on purpose to antagonize his I Am the Band brother
  • Dave and drummer Mick Avory were often at odds. In the most notorious (and widely mis-reported) incident, at the Capitol Theatre, Cardiff, South Wales, in 1965, Avory hit Davies with his drum pedal (not the cymbal stand, which, according to later interviews with Avory "would have decapitated him"), in reprisal for Davies kicking over his drum kit as revenge for a drunken fight the previous night in a Taunton hotel, apparently won by Mick. He then fled into hiding for days to avoid arrest for grievous bodily harm. On other occasions, fuming, he would hurl his drumsticks at Dave. According to Ray, their problems began during the time Mick and Dave shared a flat in London for a short period in early 1965. This resulted in Mick leaving the band. They eventually buried the hatchet.
• KISS during the 1970s was a Dysfunction Junction of two different pairs - business-minded Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley on one side, and the wilder, hard-partying Ace Frehley and Peter Criss on the other - whose clashes eventually escalated to intense friction, not helped by the latter two starting to struggle with their performances due to being so intoxicated (Frehley was also developing Creative Differences). Tellingly, both were gone by 1982, and even when the quartet reunited in 1996, Paul and Gene ensured that the album Psycho Circus barely had any input from Ace and Peter, who left again in 2001. Not helping is the myriad allegations everyone's made about each other over the decades, of out-of-control egos, poor work ethic, racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism and general dickishness.
• Legendary Spanish band Mägo de Oz seems to have a curse about this, which some have attributed to sheer clash of egos worsened by band leader Txus being a notorious Control Freak. The first big brawl caused the departure of the singer José Andrëa in 2011 due to bad rapport with Txus and Carlitos, then Carlitos himself and Frank left in 2020 due to Txus having registered the band's name for himself, and then other two singers of the band, Zeta and Patri, left too in 2023 among implications of more backstage drama.
• While it wasn't why he was fired, this was most certainly the case with CJ McCreery and the rest of Lorna Shore for a solid year or so before he was fired. While they got along well at first, relations with him started to go downhill by the end of 2018, and when the band went to the studio to record the rest of Immortal in early 2019, he managed to piss off Adam De Micco and Austin Archey by showing up for three days (as opposed to the month-plus that they spent working on it) with poor-quality lyrics and delivering numerous poor takes that had to be cleaned up and stitched together. Once they started doing the year's tours, Adam and Austin (plus newcomer Andrew O'Connor) quickly grew to despise him for his trashy and embarrassing conduct on tour and his habitual laziness and tendency to try and lie and manipulate his way out of everything, as well as his rudeness towards fans and other bands, and when they ended their final tour for the year, they were so sick of him and hated him so much that there was serious talk of firing him. When the allegations against him came out at the end of the year, they mostly just accelerated the inevitable - he had to go for the sake of the band's emotional wellbeing either way, and the allegations just forced their hand early. CJ's old Signs of the Swarm bandmate Bobby Crow also went on record to say that the same was true for CJ's time with them, as he regularly displayed all of the same behaviors there and was such a toxic presence and caused so many problems for the band that, in the months before CJ quit to join Lorna Shore, there was a very real possibility of Bobby leaving the band because he could no longer deal with CJ.
• No Doubt: The video for "Don't Speak," which is all about growing resentment among the other band members to Gwen Stefani's all-encompassing popularity, is not that fictionalized — there really was a lot of resentment as Stefani became the face of the band and the only member of it most people could name.
  • The breakup between Stefani and bassist Tony Kanal also caused a fair bit of tension, though the two eventually moved on.
• Like The Kinks, Oasis is notorious for the acrimonious relationship between brothers Liam and Noel Gallagher, coming to a head when a backstage fight resulted in the band's breakup.
• The final years of Pantera were marred by tensions between Phil Anselmo and the Abbott brothers over Anselmo's drug abuse and erratic behavior. Their penultimate album The Great Southern Trendkill was recorded in two separate studios; Anselmo recorded his vocals in New Orleans while the rest of the band recorded in Arlington, Texas. They managed to put aside their feelings long enough to record Reinventing The Steel in a single studio, but after the tour for that album concluded, the band members went their separate ways and the band was declared dissolved by the Abbotts in 2003.
• When recording Pink Floyd's The Final Cut, Roger Waters and David Gilmour couldn't stand to be in the same studio as each other, recording their parts in separate studios (Richard Wright having been fired in 1979 during the sessions for The Wall). Waters left the band shortly after its release, declaring Pink Floyd a "spent force," but Gilmour had the last laugh with the massively successful follow-up.
• The members of The Police hated each other so much that they frequently had physical altercations backstage. The final straw came when they couldn't agree on which drum machine to use for a session (drummer Stewart Copeland had broken his collarbone in a horseback riding accident and was unable to play drums). Andy Summers saw Sting and Copeland arguing about this one morning, so he left and decided to skip most of the day. When he returned to the studio in the late afternoon, his bandmates were still having the same argument, as passionately as they had in the morning, without either of them ready to give in.
  • Sting so disliked the instrumental "Behind My Camel" from Zenyatta Mondatta that not only did he refuse to play on it, he tried to bury the master tape. Didn't stop him from accepting the Grammy the band won for it, though.
• Band relations in The Ramones were often tense:
  • Tension between Joey and Johnny colored much of the band's career. The pair were politically antagonistic, Joey being a liberal and Johnny a conservative. Their personalities also clashed: Johnny, who spent two years in military school, lived by a strict code of self-discipline, while Joey struggled with obsessive-compulsive disorder and alcoholism. In the early 1980s, Linda Danielle began a relationship with Johnny after having already been romantically involved with Joey. Consequently, despite their continued professional relationship, Joey and Johnny had become aloof from each other. Johnny did not contact Joey before the latter's death, although he said that he was depressed for "the whole week" after his death.
  • Tommy quit the band after being "physically threatened by Johnny, treated with contempt by Dee Dee, and all but ignored by Joey".
  • The tensions among the group members were not kept secret from the public as was heard on The Howard Stern Show in 1997, where during the interview Marky and Joey got into a fight about their respective drinking habits.
  • A year after the band's breakup, Marky Ramone made disparaging response against C.J. in the press, calling him a "bigot," a statement he would reiterate a decade later. C.J. would later respond that he was unsure as to why he would make negative comments against him in the press though he denied that it had anything to do with his marrying Marky's niece. He also denied being a bigot. Many years later, C.J. mentioned that despite being the two surviving members of arguably the band's most commercially successful era, and despite reaching out a few times to join him on stage, he and Marky were no longer in contact.
• The Rolling Stones spent much of The '80s struggling with this, which is why it's usually seen as the weakest period in the band's history. Their 1986 album, Dirty Work, where Mick Jagger was getting too carried away by his solo career and the others showed their contempt - Keith Richards wrote some angry tracks like "I've Had It With You", "Fight", and "One Hit (To The Body)", and the normally-taciturn drummer Charlie Watts at a certain point punched Jagger in the face. They eventually settled their differences, though tensions still flared as they made their 1997 album Bridges to Babylon, when Richards disapproved of Jagger bringing in electronic music producers, with tensions elevated to the point that the two of them had to record in separate rooms (Watts only got through by bonding with a percussionist, and flying out of Los Angeles as soon as his work was done). Despite that, the Stones stayed intact through the years.
• 1960s soul act Sam and Dave ("Hold On, I'm Comin'", "Soul Man", "I Thank You", "When Something Is Wrong With My Baby") were known for their energetic and dynamic performances — and for absolutely despising each other. According to Sam Moore, the two did not speak to each other offstage for the last 13 years of their 21 years performing together. They also required separate dressing rooms, and did not look at each other onstage. Moore blames personal issues with Dave Prater, drug use, and touring fatigue for the rift; both Moore and Prater also cite Moore's frustrations in wanting to do his own act and diversify from repeatedly performing the Sam & Dave song catalogue (which Prater has said that Moore didn't like very much).
• While there were no hostilities in S Club 7 during their first run together, in The New '10s when Bradley, Jo and Paul toured together as 'S Club 3', Paul eventually stopped appearing with them citing tensions between himself and Jo.
• The shoot for Tupac Shakur's "Hit 'Em Up" video was as intense as the actual song. Tupac was engaged in an argument with someone, who was heard telling him "You'll get shot." His armed bodyguard assured him that he had nothing to worry about. He also broke up a fight involving his friend Muta during the filming and fired a production assistant on set. The assistant was answering Shakur's pager and returning his personal calls without his consent. Many callers were confused or angry that a female assistant was answering Tupac's calls. The assistant had mistakenly lost the pager, and with Tupac already growing wary of her, fired her for that reason.
• Skinny Puppy began suffering this when Nivek Ogre brought in Al Jourgensen to produce Rabies in 1989, cEvin Key and Dwayne Goettel weren't too thrilled with Jourgensen's presence, particularly because Ogre decided to join Jourgensen on the tour to support Ministry's The Mind Is A Terrible Thing to Taste instead of touring with them to support Rabies. More pressingly, Jourgensen introduced Ogre to heroin. Ogre's fall into addiction would poison relations between him and the other two band members. By the time the band began working on The Process in 1993, the members were barely speaking to each other, which wasn't helped by the fact that Goettel had become addicted to heroin too. After Goettel died of a drug overdose in 1995, Ogre and Key put aside their differences long enough to finish the album in his memory before dissolving the band. They would eventually reconcile in the 2000s and continue to tour and record until 2023.
• Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" was his biggest hit in the short term but also set into motion the events that ultimately killed his career once his lecherous behavior was exposed, so it's appropriate that some of that apparently went down on the set of the music video for the song itself. Emily Ratajkowski, one of the models who appeared in the video, wrote in her autobiography My Body that she signed on to do the video because it had a female director and she was told that it would be subverting the Male Gaze by putting the women in a position of power over the male singers, but that she was subjected to routine sexual harassment and groping from Thicke on set. While she initially felt comfortable working with him, even when shooting the Not Safe for Work version where she was topless, she said that Thicke turned more aggressive once he got drunk. Director Diane Martel corroborated her story, saying that she yelled at Thicke "what the fuck are you doing? That's it! The shoot is over!"
• Dealing with Eddie Van Halen was apparently not easy. He trashed Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony publicly for over a decade while not speaking a word to the guys themselves, trashed David Lee Roth while he was in the band, and generally had a bad attitude about any-and-everybody that doesn't have "Van Halen" as their last name. Things eventually got so fiery with both singers that they wanted to take a rest, and Michael Anthony also didn't like being sidelined (to the point he only joined the 2004 reunion because Sammy wanted him there, and he wasn't even notified of the band coming out of hiatus with Wolfgang van Halen, Eddie's son, in his place). And sadly, when Eddie was trying to bury the hatchet with Hagar and Anthony so all six^note well, seven; but not only Gary Cherone is the only singer that seemingly never clashed with Eddie, everyone prefers to forget his tenure in the band could tour together, he died of cancer.
  • Sammy Hagar also had some clashes with the people responsible for the "Right Now" music video, as he was proud of the lyrics and complained that "People ain't even going to be listening to what I'm saying because they'll be reading these subtitles". During filming, Hagar was suffering from pneumonia and a fever and thus angrier and even less cooperative, as illustrated by how he both steps away from a microphone and slams his dressing room door. That being said, by the time of his autobiography Red he had warmed up to it, down to reusing the video's idea in "Cosmic Universal Fashion".
  • According to band insiders, Eddie's mistreatment of Michael Anthony even went so far as to force an employment agreement on him during the 1984 tour (depriving him of the royalties he would receive as a full bandmember and his share of the group writing credits); Anthony is said to have signed on the spot, and went out and played that night and every night after.
• This is why Woe, Is Me was only around for about four years. A lot of interpersonal conflicts, drug issues, and an inability to keep a stable lineup led to the band leader Kevin Hansen ending the band after Genesis released in 2013. They managed to patch up things and reform in 2022 with the Number[s] lineup (with Hance Alligood replacing Tyler Carter on vocals). But even that didn’t last long, as Austin Thornton was kicked out almost immediately after the band tried to record new material.

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