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    Lyrics to "Lost in Thoughts All Alone" 
You are the ocean's gray waves, destined to seek
Life beyond the shore just out of reach,
Yet the waters ever change, flowing like time
The path is yours to climb.

In the white light, a hand reaches through;
A double-edged blade cuts your heart in two
Waking dreams fade away,
Embrace the brand-new day.

Sing with me a song of birthrights and love
The light scatters to the sky above.
Dawn breaks through the gloom, white as a bone
Lost in thoughts all alone

You are the ocean's gray waves, destined to seek
Life beyond the shore just out of reach,
Yet the waters ever change, flowing like time
The path is yours to climb.

Embrace the dark you call a home,
Gaze upon an empty, white throne
A legacy of lies,
A familiar disguise.

Sing with me a song of conquest and fate
The black pillar cracks beneath its weight
Night breaks through the day, hard as a stone
Lost in thoughts all alone.

The path you walk on belongs to destiny, just let it flow
All of your joy and your pain will fall like the tide, let it flow.

Life is not just filled with happiness, nor sorrow
Even the thorn in your heart, in time it may become a rose.

A burdened heart sinks into the ground
A veil falls away without a sound
Not day nor night, wrong nor right
For truth and peace you fight.

Sing with me a song of silence and blood
The rain falls, but can't wash away the mud
Within my ancient heart dwells madness and pride
Can no one hear my cry?

In endless dreams, countless realms collide,
Hope falls only to rise like the changing tide
But all dreams come to an end,
Just whispers on the wind.

Sing with me one last time, for light's sacrifice,
Endless dawn came but not without a price,
Lost in the waves there glimmers, a pale blue stone.
I think of you, all alone.

You are the ocean's gray waves, destined to seek
Life beyond the shore just out of reach,
Yet the waters ever change, flowing like time
The path is yours to climb.

You are the ocean's gray waves.

  • All-Star Cast: The Japanese version stars Nobunaga Shimazaki, Satomi Sato, Yuuichi Nakamura, Kaori Nazuka, Yuki Kaji, Hisako Kanemoto, Katsuyuki Konishi, Mamoru Miyano and Miyuki Sawashiro. And that's just the main cast.
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  • Actor Allusion: In her supports with Camilla where she is offered to learn knitting, Hinoka voices her eagerness to start by saying "I'm feeling stabby!" These exact words are also uttered as one of the critical pop-in quotes of Peri in the localization, with whom Hinoka shares her English voice actor Elizabeth Daily with.
  • Author Existence Failure: Gunter's Japanese voice actor, Rokuro Naya, passed away in November 2014, seven months before Fates' Japanese release.
  • The Cast Showoff:
    • In the English dub, Rena Strober gets to show off her chops as a Broadway actress by playing Azura and doing her singing voice.
    • In the English dub of the Heirs of Fate DLC, Matthew Mercer gets to sing as Shigure.
  • Defictionalization: Azura's pendant is available for 12,000 yen.
  • Dummied Out:
    • Game data suggests that Candace and Nichol were originally meant to be regular party members rather than capturable bosses, as their names are listed among the main army and they are the only bosses with critical cut-ins and official Twitter icons.
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    • There are unused skills called Armor Shield and Beast Shield and skill items to teach them within the game, as well as skill items for the enemy-exclusive Winged Shield and Bold Stance skills, but there is no legitimate way to access them.
    • Conquest’s final chapter has a pre-battle quote for Kaden, even though he can’t be recruited in that path. The quote is even different from his pre-battle quote in Birthright’s final chapter.
  • Fan Nickname: Cataloged here.
  • Fake American: Gideon Emery is British but voices Jakob's son Dwyer with an American accent.
  • Fake Brit: American actors Ben Diskin and Liam O'Brien give Jakob and Laslow British accents in the localization.
  • Fan Translation: Similar to Pokémon Black and White, there was a project to translate the game entirely to English (requiring 3DS homebrew which itself requires outdated firmware) before the official localization comes out.
  • God Never Said That:
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    • Head writer Shin Kibayashi neither disowned the Fates plot nor said that he hated it on Twitter. He merely stated that he wrote the basic draft of the story, so he felt that it was unfair to give him all the credit when there was a whole writing team behind it.
    • Rena Strober (Azura's English VA) never claimed she was completely blind during the recording process. She didn't know much about Azura when she auditioned, but she was given proper information as it became relevant and she interjected when stories began falsely accusing Nintendo of withholding information from her.
    • Thanks to a line by Leo in the beginning of the game, players believe that Elise was aged up for the Western release. His exact words were "... act like the adult you technically are..." which only means that Elise meets the age requirement for an adult by the standards of the game's universe. These standards are never actually revealed in the game itself, and if anything, only serve to highlight that she is indeed quite young compared to the rest of the cast, even if she is of marriageable age.
    • Also no, Yusuke Kozaki never compared Camilla to a cow. That was Toshiyuki Kusakihara, the art director, during a group interview for an artbook.
  • I Knew It!:
    • After the first trailer focused on an eastern-style army fighting a western-style one, many fans correctly guessed you would be able to choose which side to fight for.
    • After Kaden's reveal, people began guessing that Nohr would have a faction-specific shapeshifter that was a wolf. In the "introduction" trailer, there's a glimpse of a man turning into a large wolf: this man would turn out to be Keaton.
    • A lot of people speculated that Odin, Laslow, and Selena are Owain, Inigo, and Severa respectively. Turns out that this is the case with the supports with each other and the Avatar.
    • After noticing that the Avatar can potentially Support with both sets of his/her siblings, many assumed that both families and Corrin were Not Blood Siblings after all. This turns out to be true— the Avatar was born into Hoshido royalty, but only the queen was his/her biological relative. The others were raised as stepchildren, with the king being their biological father.
    • Almost every fan guessed that Midoriko would be shortened to just Midori. Those fans were right.
    • A lot of fans also guessed correctly that Crimson would become Scarlet in the localization, due to that being an actual name in English while also being a shade of red.
    • Some fans guessed that Soleil's romances with male characters other than the Avatar and Forrest would be removed from the localized version.
  • Limited Special Collector's Ultimate Edition: The pre-order exclusive Special Edition comes with all main three routes (Birthright, Conquest, and Revelation) on one cart, alongside an art book.
  • Marth Debuted in "Smash Bros.": After several jokes over this trope for the series, in the West, Corrin LITERALLY debuted in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U.
  • Meme Acknowledgement: Leo's English voice actor, Max Mittelman, has referenced all the tomato jokes surrounding Leo at least once.
  • Milestone Celebration: The games' release in Japan marks the 25th year of the franchise since its debut in 1990.
  • Name's the Same:
    • May or may not be a Shout-Out, but the fifth chapter of the game (the final one prior to the route split), "Mother and Child," shares the same exact name with the fifth chapter of Fire Emblem: Thracia 776. The in-chapter events are also extremely similar: In Fates, Mikoto, the biological mother of the Avatar, is struck by a massive bolt of energy and dies protecting him/her. In Thracia 776, Eyvel, the adopted mother of Nanna and Leif, puts herself in harm's way in order to save Nanna's life, being turned to stone in the process by the sorcerer Veld. And like many other parts of Fates, there's a bit of a comparison to be made with these two scenarios: Eyvel can potentially survive petrification and be freed prior to the final chapter in Thracia 776. Meanwhile, Mikoto can potentially come back from the dead as an antagonistic spirit in the Revelation route, but is otherwise permanently dead.
    • Elise may be a princess, but this Elise hasn't met Sonic.
    • There's another Arthur in Jugdral. They're not the same person. And neither is Harold.
    • There's also another Macbeth in Jugdral. Macbeth in this game is Iago's Japanese name.
    • Kamui is not the same. Same goes for Leo, though he is given the name Leon (this game's Leo's Japanese name) for international versions of Gaiden's remake, making it even more coincidental.
    • This Azura is most certainly not a demonic god.
    • This game's Selena is not the Fluorspar of Grado.
    • This game's Lloyd has no connections to the Black Fang.
  • New Work, Recycled Graphics: A number of assets are reused from Fire Emblem Awakening. Most of the returning Skills use the exact same icons, the resistance HQ at the start of Birthright Chapter 14 is the barracks from Awakening (complete with an Awakening-style Armor Knight shield lying next to the crates), and some classes that wield axes use the animations of the Awakening Fighter and its promotions.
  • No Export for You: There are two chapters in Japanese DLC pack #3 that are absent from North American/European DLC pack #2.note 
  • Playing Against Type:
    • While a nice and shy character like Sakura is someone Brianna Knickerbocker would voice, Charlotte is a whole different story. She's a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing that likes to flirt with men.
    • Matthew Mercer tends to voice serious characters with a Badass Baritone like Ryoma, so Shigure and Azama are far cries from his usual roles. Azama is a jovial, silly, and playful wise monk, while Shigure is a calm, soft-spoken, serene singer with a younger-sounding voice.
    • Max Mittelman uses a deeper voice register for Leo to the point that many have mistaken his role as being David Vincent's, which is a stark contrast to his younger voice he uses for Forrest and Kaden.
    • Ben Diskin is usually known for voicing either nerdy young boys or hammy adult men. While someone like Hayato is right up his alley, both Jakob and Saizo are very serious characters with Saizo in particular having a very deep voice.
  • Relationship Voice Actor: Azura (Rena Strober), Lilith, Female Kana, Female Avatar Option 1, Mitama, Ryoma, Azama, Shigure, Jakob, Hayato, Saizo, Selena, Caeldori, Flora, Laslow, Izana, Zola, Beruka, Sophie, and Rhajat are Green Esmeraude, Naru, Demande, Umino, Ms Haruna, Viluy, Nephrite, and Usagi/Sailor Moon, respectively.
    • Ryoma and Xander, both eldest princes of rivaling countries, at least in Japanese version, were actually voicing a dynamic duo pair, Flik and Viktor... in a Drama CD adaptation.
    • Queen Mikoto is the second time both Sayaka Ohara and Marisha Ray share a role. The first time was Margaret in various Persona spinoffs.
  • Role Reprisal:
  • Talking to Himself:
    • For the Japanese version:
      • Mitsuhiro Ichiki voices both Hinata and his son Hisame.
      • Corrin and Kana are both voiced by the same actors in the Japanese release, but the trope is ultimately averted since Kana will always be the gender opposite of Corrin.
      • Effie and Ophelia share the same voice actress, Yuuki Kuwahara. They can potentially be mother and daughter, should Effie marry Odin.
      • Juri Kimura voices both Mozu and Nyx in the Japanese version. Additionally, in Conquest and Revelation they can support with each other.
      • Nozomi Sasaki voices both Felicia and Oboro.
      • Nobunaga Shimazaki voices the Avatar, Male Kana and Anankos' human form.
    • For the English version:
      • Ben Diskin voices Jakob, Saizo, and Hayato.
      • David Stanbra voices Xander, Siegbert, Kaze, Shura, and Sumeragi.
      • Sarah Blandy voices Kagero and Kaze's daughter Midori.
      • Matthew Mercer voices Azama, Ryoma, and Azura's son Shigure.
      • Danielle Judovits voices Azama's daughter Mitama, Female Kana, Lilith, and the Female Avatar's first voice option.
      • Stephanie Sheh voices Beruka, Silas's daughter Sophie (who can be Beruka's daughter) and Hayato's daughter Rhajat.
      • Marcella Lentz-Pope voices Scarlet and the Female Avatar's second voice option.
      • Paula Tiso voices Camilla and Orochi.
      • Stephanie Lemelin voices Rinkah, Reina, and the Female Avatar's third voice option.
      • Yuri Lowenthal voices Marth, Takumi's son Kiragi, and the Male Avatar's second voice option.
      • Cam Clarke voices Arthur, Hinata, and the Male Avatar's first and third voice options and Anankos' human form.
      • Julie Ann Taylor voices Selena and Subaki's daughter Caeldori (a potential daughter of Selena).
      • Gideon Emery voices Keaton, Jakob's son Dwyer, and Saizo's son Asugi.
      • Kaiji Tang voices Odin, Ryoma's son Shiro, and Benny's son Ignatius.
      • Liam O'Brien voices Laslow and Izana.
      • Elizabeth Daily voices Hinoka, Peri, and Kaden's daughter Selkie (who can be potentially mothered by either Peri or Hinoka.)
      • Amber Hood voices both Nyx and Laslow's daughter Soleil (a potential daughter for Nyx).
      • Travis Willingham voices Hans and King Garon.
      • Natalie Lander voices Elise and Niles' daughter Nina (a potential daughter for Elise).
      • Max Mittelman voices Kaden, Leo, and his son Forrest.
      • Marisha Ray voices Mikoto, Oboro (the retainer of Mikoto's stepson, Takumi) and Effie.
      • Roger Rose voices Takumi, Niles, and Hinata's son Hisame.
      • Angela Marie Volpe voices Ophelia and Velouria.
  • Urban Legend of Zelda:
    • Not long after the game was released, someone on Serene's Forest claimed to have dug through the script and discovered that Azura and Silas were the original bi options. This spread like wildfire among the fandom, and despite the poster never giving evidence to back up their claims and other people giving proof to the contrary, people still sprout the rumor as fact.
    • It was rumored that Asugi and Rhajat were each other's fastest supports. In reality, the rule about fast support growths only applies to the parents. This likely started because of in Awakening Gaius and Tharja, whom Asugi and Rhajat are expies and implicit reincarnations of, respectively, were each other's fastest supports.
    • There were many, many fake rumors about the plot and the gameplay before the game's release, including but not limited to: Sakura falling victim to a Cruel and Unusual Death in Conquest, M!Corrin applying "corrective rape" to Soleil in their already polemic supports, Ryoma personally attacking the temporarily ill Elise in Conquest, jail prisoners being tortured or violated to get them to join the group, M!Kana being rejected in a deliberately rude way in his S supports like Caeldori, or the ending dialogue of Revelation being different if M!Corrin married Azura. While most of these rumors have died out, Soleil's is persistent.
    • It's also said that Hoshido and Nohr donated their northern territories to aid Valla's reconstruction in Revelation. While both countries do give land, the game never actually specifies what part of their land.
    • When the game first came out and the A+ rank support option was discovered, many people began to run around claiming that it was a "secret" way to get characters of the the same gender to have what amounted to an S rank and that doing so locked out someone's ability to have that character be in an S support with the opposite sex. This ignores the fact that most of the A+ ranks are between siblings and the characters can A+ with someone and already be in an S rank. In reality the A+ rank allows two units to gain the other's base, or secondary class via a Friendship Seal.
  • What Could Have Been:
    • The skinship minigame was originally much more extreme, with the cursor being a hand and the ability to touch the character anywhere on their body, though it would have been limited to whoever the Avatar married. It was to the point that even some of the developers considered it disgusting, and Nintendo ultimately agreed with them and asked to tone it down.
    • Hinata and Hisame were originally planned to be twin brothers instead of father and son. This was changed because there would have been too many first generation Samurai.
    • Hinoka didn't exist in the first drafts of the story, and her role as a Hoshidan princess was originally intended to go to Kagero. She was included because Kozaki doodled her up one day and requested that she be one of the royals.
    • The typical "early designs having different hairstyles and hair colors" thing—Takumi was originally planned to be a redhead like Hinoka and Sakura, but was given silver hair in the final product, while the Avatar was supposed to have black hair by default just like their mother.
    • The original proposal for Fates, included in the "Making of Fire Emblem" book, had Corrin set, designed and referred to as a male, suggesting he was planned to be a straight-up non-customizable Lord in the veins of Marth. Presumably the change to an Avatar and the option to play female came in later.
    • The "Making of Fire Emblem" book suggests that all three routes were supposed to be available from the start, rather than Revelation being released later as DLC.
    • Azura was originally planned to have different supports with Female Kana if she was her mother, depending on the route, like she does with the Avatar.
  • Working Title: The Latest in the Fire Emblem Series outside of Japan on the game's first reveal. Then the second trailer seems to shorten it to just Fire Emblem, before becoming Fire Emblem Fates at E3 2015.

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