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More likely, the entire userbase just gave up after witnessing Stewie give birth to human-dog-hybrid abominations.

I put it back with some rewriting and the toxic parts cut. (Also note that "It" Is Dehumanizing is never intended to be a positive trope and is usually intended to show what a huge asshole the person using it is, so unless you're comfortable with calling yourself an asshole...)

Just seems like the religious have their heads shoved where they believe the sun shines, they can't take a joke and believe nobody has a right to criticize them. One might argue this proves the point the episode was trying to make.

So what if they mock atheists? That doesn't change the ridiculousness of the arguments used.

It should also be noted that the show has a bias in atheists seeing as to how they've yet to make an clear joke about them .

@L Bcrimson: THANK YOU

You do realize that's your opinion and not everyone feels the same way?

IGNORE ME!!!

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• Chilliwack: In a cutaway gag, Peter straight-up KILLS a man with a shot put. Everything is shown. The victim's pained grunt, the grapefruit-sized dent in his skull, and lots of blood. Why did Peter do it? Because whenever he wants to let off some steam, he lobs a shot put into a crowd, and makes it look like an accident. In other words, "Because I felt like it." Our protagonists, everybody.

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• Cookie Man: The religious jokes were pretty cruddy, but those are nothing compared to what happened at the end. We see Evelyn admit her wrong (acting VERY promiscous around Peter, which made Peter very uncomfortable). Petter also admits that he too got carried away and saw her as a new "mom". We get something that is seen as very heartwarming, BUT because the writers have to be dicks, while Peter is hugging Evelyn, he accidentally crushes her back and kills her - what does he do? Panic? No. He just pretends that nothing happened, expecting the cemetery groundskeeper to take care of the mess. It's moments like these where the writers like to yank on our chains by making the characters feel like they're good people, but at the end, it's like they learned nothing at all from it.

• Tropers/Cookieman: The plot of the episode proves how unlikable Lois and Donna truly are. They get mad at each other over how they treat their children, with Donna being viewed as an abusive parent and Lois being viewed as a neglectful parent. Donna spanks Chris (who is not her child) for breaking a vase, and it ultimately ends up with them forbidding not only them for seeing each other, but forbidding their husbands too. I honestly found this very pointless and distasteful, plus Lois and Donna didn't even make up that much at the end - they just made up for the sake of Peter and Cleveland.

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• DL Abaoaqu: This episode was nothing more than a big ratings trap. Brian was killed off for, like, two episodes only to be brought back. All manner of petitions and tribute art went out in protest of the move, when it was more than likely that they were going to bring back Brian anyway (look into how long it takes episodes to be made). MacFarlane played his foolish fans like an instrument in an attempt to get more people talking about this show when interest is ebbing. The Mysterious Mr Enter pointed out that the fans begging to bring Brian back gives Seth more reason to use him as a bullhorn for political sermons and antireligious propaganda. "[Brian] is overcome with gratitude," said MacFarlane; I say "Screw you and your fans."

• marioandsonic: There are a lot of reasons this episode deserves to be on here, but I'm going to go with my biggest one: The lead up to the death scene itself. Right after Brian gets hit, we see the family run out to him in panic. Now, you'd expect this whole scene to be a tearjerker and very emotional. But instead, a few seconds after the family runs out, a squirrel runs up to Brian, kicks him in the head, spits on him, and says, 'That guy sucked!' Cut to commercial. Way to go, writers, you just destroyed any amount of emotion or seriousness you were going for. Then after commercial, you'd at least expect this to get better, right? No! We have to see a pointless scene involving a headless chicken that's being played for laughs! This is just painful. I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes regarded as the worst handled death scene in the history of animation.

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• Mhj0808: What makes it worse is that Peter's Muslim friend is depicted as a completely friendly, laid-back, and amicable guy before he randomly reveals himself to be a terrorist. And then all of a sudden, he's a full-on psychopathic "death-to-America!!" stereotype who doesn't flinch before he tries to blow Peter's head off. What. Ok, number 1, it's just plain stupid because how many murderous and anti-American terrorists do you think in real life would get so chummy and have drinks during his off time with a bunch of Americans? It just defies logic, and it's bad writing. Number 2, I'll elaborate when I say bad writing; you don't radically change a character's personality halfway through the episode without even making an attempt at foreshadowing. Number 3, so you're saying that no matter how friendly or normal a Muslim person is, they're all really just crazy terrorists? Way to be so progressive Seth. Even dumber; in a desperate attempt to save face, they have Joe deliver the "not all Muslims are terrorists shtick" to Peter, which would noramlly be just fine... except every Muslim in Quahog in this episode turns out to be a terrorist.

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• Redjirachi: The fact they even expect us to buy him getting away is a dethroning moment to me. No matter how much he's paying his employers, I'd think most of them wouldn't be so sociopathic that they wouldn't spill the beans on a cure for freaking CANCER! Especially considering they'd probably become filthy rich and famous from revealing said cure, so even a total sociopath would have the motivation to do the right thing. Actually, scratch that: there's no good reason why Carter didn't reveal the cure for cancer! He'd probably multiply his net wealth and become BELOVED from such an act, which doesn't even require a conscious to figure out. Instead the writers choose to make him a total Karma Houdini because they're clinical sociopaths "herp derp it's funny." God, Mr Burns isn't this cruel.

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• monkeyman224: Even though I really enjoyed this episode, the ending really pissed me off. At the end Stewie tells Brian that he's "forever grateful" to him for saving his life. Apparently Stewie forgot that the whole damn thing was Brian's fault in the first place.

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• White Rose Samurai: I know there's a one entry per troper rule, but I feel the need to bend it because the end of this episode made me realize that Brian has no redeeming qualities. None. The plot involves Brian breaking his nose and losing all his teeth, which results in Quagmire, of all people, paying for his surgery and Brian becoming a real estate agent after he's mistaken for one. Anyway, Brian sells Quagmire a shithole condo and tries to hide from him for 72 hours so Quagmire can't use the escape clause. When Quagmire confronts Brian at the motel he's hiding in, Quagmire states that his already low opinion of Brian has sunk even lower. Brian starts to give a speech about how he respects Quagmire for calling him out on his crap all the time and how he thinks Quagmire is just trying to be his friend, since he payed for Brian's surgery. Then it's revealed he was just running down the clock and now Quagmire is stuck with aforementioned shithole condo. I'd be lying if I said Brian didn't deserve getting all his teeth knocked out again by Quagmire.

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• CC Prime: Plus, you know, the whole "Republicans want anarchy!" thing probably wasn't the most sensitive or accurate statement they could have made. Between this and the aforementioned Bush/Civil War nonsense, I'm starting to think that they keep using these jokes not because they're trying to be funny, but rather, because they simply have some kind of bitter grudge against all non-liberals. It doesn't help that Brian was once again the one to explain the "evils" of the Tea Party to the audience, and EVERY Tea Party supporters portrayed as absolute morons who don't have a clue what they're doing.

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• thespecialneedsgroup: I was okay with that joke because I'm fairly certain that in real-life the vast majority of people in that situation would recognize their sibling long before anything actually happened. But then they go home and Meg implies that she'd be open to fooling around with Chris again. Sibling sexual abuse, that's...I guess "funny" what they were trying for? Later episodes would imply that they actually did continue some kind of sexual relationship. Congratulations, Family Guy, you've turned Meg into a sexual predator who abuses her younger brother. Comedy gold.

No, because this is about moments.

It's from "You Can't Do That on Television, Peter".

Thank you.

Ditto Animeking1108.

• Animeking1108: Turban Cowboy. I was almost praying to God they weren't going the route they went, but they did. First, there's the main plot where Peter befriends a Muslim man. However, they later reveal, in true Seth Mac Farlane fashion, that he's a terrorist. After the terrorist was captured, Joe announces that all Muslims that live in the area will be under constant surveillance. Brian, the Author Avatar, is even shot down when he points out the post-9/11 paranoia. Finally, there was Quagmire's behavior. The way he talked to Brian was expected (telling him that he should be leashed outside), but telling Joe that he has no say in what matters in the Olympics because he's crippled. It seems Quagmire has become the new Author Avatar, putting him in the right about the Muslim being a terrorist.

• Julayla: Agreed. Meg has been bad before, but this... it shows that Meg is way too far gone. She's even crossed the Moral Event Horizon, despite her learning her lesson. And Kent did had a right to call her a complete psychopath at the end. And Brian's encouraging Meg to get someone drunk on purpose? Not cool.

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Quackey Trope, you have one.

• Quacky Trope: The first few minutes of that same episode, where Brian seduces a number of women and uses Stewie's time machine to make out with them during horrific events in American history; including the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, the Hindenburg disaster, and the segregation era. It makes you wonder why, out of all the places in time he could have chosen, did he go to the absolute worst? This troper found it absolutely repugnant and sickening, and what makes it worse is Brian and one of his dates saying that restaurants were quieter when they were segregated. I can't even begin to describe how furious that comment made me feel, but it, and the scenes before it were the reasons why I immediately changed the channel right after the opening credits were over. There's also Unfortunate Implications with Brian dating so many women at what seems like the same time. Just when I didn't think I could hate Brian any more than I already do, the writers keep giving me more reasons to.

• Mr Jeperson: For me, it's the moment in 420 during the "Bag Of Weed" song where we get the snarky couplet, "When stupid people need a thrill/They rent The Rocketeer." Yeah, because it's so much more intelligent to love a show which increasingly consists of "Hey kids! Remember this famous film?" non-jokes that could happily grace a Seltzer Berg production, than to love an intelligently-written, beautifully-made action adventure film. Such unwarranted sniping from such an increasingly lousy show really got on my wick.

• Super Saiya Man: I quit Family Guy about two seasons after the second revival and sometimes watch for a Bile Fascination. I decided to check out Life of Brian after I heard the incredulous: Brian, the Creator's Pet of the series was killed off. I thought it would be worth showing how they did it. Going in, I expected to see Brian already on his deathbed and the rest of the episode showing the flashbacks of how it got there. You know, what a normal, quality show does when killing off a popular, favorite, or Creator's Pet character. Instead...we open in the most blatant racism Family Guy has ever done, with all the Native Americans being typical stereotypes which haven't moved on past the 19th century. You know Family Guy writing staff, I'd expect more from you but considering you think bigotry-this time blatant bigotry without trying to be ironic is funny I hate to meet you people in real life. Are white people in the 19th century mindset in the 21st Century, Family Guy? No! Culture does not stagnate! If it did it dies out! Even with your last use of Native American jokes, which were nearly as bad in the season 1 episode "The Son Also Draws" at least it showed they were doing it ironically for tourists for their Casino. Next, we see after Brian and Stewie fix their mistake in the past, Stewie demolishes his time machine and calls it 'too much trouble'. There could have been an easy way to do this without it seeming like a forced slap to the face to the watchers: 1.) That last time travel trip irreparably fried its internal circuits. 2.) Their last trip destroyed said time machine via feedback or the guns they were carrying going off. Those are just off the top of my head but it seems like I put more effort into it than the fricking writers! In the end, the time machine's dismantled, taken to the dump and crushed and Brian, acting uncharacteristically upbeat and still preachy suggests they take a street hockey net home since its in great shape (forcing an Recycling gag to us too unintentionally)! After that, we get another pointless cut away before going back to the present with Brian and Stewie setting up the nets they got and Stewie running back into the house to get his kneepads. Without even checking traffic, Brian turns his back to the direction of the traffic to finish setting up the nets and a speeding Prius comes down the street, the driver intentionally (people who think its murder-pointing to Quagmire) or unintentionally (hard to see someone bent over) in the end...Brian is hit by the car. This could have been done extremely effectively by a Gory Discretion Shot, just the sound of the impact would have been enough. But no, we see it in extremely gory and realistic detail and then we get the insulting comment of the squirrel. And then we get another anti-Semitic joke. Finally, they are at the hospital where Brian is hooked up to life support but doesn't have much time left...they actually handled that part effectively, but it still came a bit forced. Now the episode could have ended here, but that'd make it only 15 minutes long. Instead, we get a funeral (where Quagmire instead of comforting his friends...is watching the Sox game during it) while the family members all say their goodbyes...and Joe gets bothered by yet another racist stereotype. A month passes after the funeral and then Lois decides to get a new dog just then and there...grief takes longer than that. Lord knows we waited for nearly a year in my house before we got our cats after Whopper, my dog and best friend died. Now we meet the Replacement Scrappy for Brian: Vinnie, an Italian Stereotype...who is strangely a bit more tolerable than Brian was in some ways. However, Stewie doesn't accept him until they bond over some common grief they have (Vinnie lost his owner, Stewie lost his dog). Now...if the episode did this correctly it could have been what won back the crowd. Brian dying should have been the focus, not all the racist stereotypes and Jew jokes and pointless cutaways. A lot of filler could have been cut and we could have got something not only heart touching, but make us genuinely sad to see Brian go in an Alas, Poor Scrappy way. Instead...we got another contender for the worst episode of Family Guy. Brian's death is so forced and drawn out and gory, and finally the introduction of Vinnie who isn't so bad.

• Boobtuber: Aside from the fact that Brian dies and gets an insensitive reaction from a squirrel and Quagmire, it came out of nowhere. Sure, this might be a metaphor for death in Real Life, but no, instead of choosing a potential Scrappy like Lois (YMMV) or Quagmire to be killed off right out of nowhere they choose a character who, despite having a Broken Base, is still an enjoyable character to see and pretty much one of the only redeeming characters in here. And he gets killed off. And there are unacceptable unsympathetic moments following it. If this makes a "Worst Deaths in a Cartoons" list or "Worst Family Guy Episodes" list, I'm hopping right on board. Good job, Family Guy. I have lost my faith in this show's decision making now.

I'm thinking Seth Mac Farlane really needs to watch over the writers to make sure they don't do anything that involves line-crossing. One time, he called out on them for doing the Boston Marathon cutaway in the episode "Turban Cowboy" that shockingly predicted the Boston bombing incident. :(

Wormtail was the one who added those.

Very very odd. Should we change the signed name of the one still on the page?

I think we should pull them and call out Wormtail on this.

• Magic Man: In my opinion, that's not the worst part. For me, it's the fact that Stewie just takes it like some whipped dog! I mean, when has Stewie ever just put up with Brian's crap in the past? Even at the end when the status quo is returned, it just makes it look even more awkward because it's just inconsistent characterization. One minute he's with Brian he's all smug, confident Stewie (he's usual self), the next he's just some simpering little bitch.

Contributed by Wormtail96, not Magic Man.

Happened again. I'm sending Wormtail a PM.

Probably due to the grammar.

No other episode has enough entries to get its own section.

That doesn't answer the question. I watched the episode and it seems no more or less sucky than the rest (Family Guy went downhill after season 3), what I was asking is why are there so many entries? What was so (un)special about it? It's not just the “atheists have a right to exist” slant is it?

It's more that it's flat-out bigotry against Christianity. While they're taken jabs at it before, dedicating an entire episode to "it's okay to disciminate against these people because of their beliefs" is definitely gonna spark some anger.

Maybe the episode of South Park that claims that if you're an atheist you automatically "spew crap from your mouth" should be on the D Mo S page too? We can't tolerate "bigotry" like that can we? That's what bugs me: this double standard. Say whatever the hell you like about atheists, they're fair game, but god help the atheists (NPI) if they turn around and throw the insults back in you face; i.e. if they do THE EXACT SAME THING. One side is right, one side is wrong. Why?

BTW I'm not whining about that South Park episode, I believe you have to put up with such things when you live in a free country.

Make your own entry for South Park doing so then. And plenty of things are (rightfully) bashed for forcing pro-religion views on people, the comic BC is the closest parallel I can think of in terms of a series adding view like this all of a sudden, and it certainly isn't ignored. And I doubt anyone on this site who commented about Not All Dogs Go To Heaven has written mainstream fiction attacking atheists, so you can't say their beliefs are being attacked in retribution.

I think I made it clear that I don't care enough about that episode to do so, I just want to know why everybody here cares so much about that one episode of Family Guy that they split the D Mo S section in two: one for this episode which seems to have rubbed everybody up the wrong way and another section for all the other crap in Family Guy. I simply don't get what the big deal is. I must have missed the "flat-out bigotry against Christianity" (?!), it just seemed like another crappy episode of Family Guy to me.

I'm wondering where this "boo hoo it discriminates against christians!" bullshit is coming from, either. Anyone who doesn't think there's a stigma to being an atheist has never been one, to be honest.

...Fuck you, sir. You just gave atheists a bad name.

...Fuck you, sir. You just gave atheists a bad name.

I wasn't especially ticked off by that episode until the ending, where Meg is convinced to reject Christianity because "would a loving God have given you a flat chest and a fat ass?" But really, yeah, I don't see what makes it so special. But a lot of people found it to be the DMOS, so it will get a lot of entries. When someone considers that episode of South Park offensive enough to warrant being on the DMOS page, it will be put on. That's just how TV Tropes works.

Eh, don't worry about it. If people want to blow their DMOS load on a joke they dislike, let them roll with it. Stops them kicking up another fuss later on down the line.

^^ That IS the point of the entry. That this is a universe where women are genetically engineered to be more attractive hardly sounds like an ideal world.

^Pull it over here and say in the edit reason that it should be expanded a bit. Or just PM the troper in question.

Here it is "Disney23: Meg gets a chance to find someone who truly loves her...but then... "

It only is a short sentence with a couple links to a couple tropes, and it really doesn't explain why exactly the moment is D Mo S. I personally haven't seen the episode so I can't edit it myself but I hope this helps someone explain this entry more in depth.

Filipinos natively speak Tagalog, or another native Philippine language, not (usually) Spanish (anymore). More Filipinos speak English than Spanish, due to recent US influence. Are we allowed to correct details like this?—Meant to be a new topic, sorry.

EDIT: Never mind. ^Yeah, I think so.

I'm not sure what you mean. What is the "good kind" and the "unacceptable kind"? In both cases, they allowed themselves to suffer in order to save others who did not deserve to be saved, if I understand the article correctly.

This crap's been going on for more than a year. Just now I had to pull the chain on somebody who thought they were above the rules. I'm beginning to think this should be locked, period.

Plus some people think Seth is writes every episode of Family Guy. These should be edited... Now.

If people add more than one, you can purge the latest ones.

Actually, I believe you are supposed to delete both.

Extra moments beyond the limited one:

• The Dog Sage: Well, obviously that joke was necessary, because that show's taking up the only non-Simpsons spot on the Fox Sundays animation block. And obviously Seth needs it for his fourth show about an idiot, his wife, his son, his daughter they don't know how to write for, sociopathic small child/creature, and talking animal.

• Bored Me: 12 and a half Angry Men. Ironically, the most infuriating thing is that except for just one hangup, this actually was a great episode. But Carter Pewterschmidt all but admitted to murder in order to frame an elected official for murder. His own son-in-law, no less. I know the writers would reply by noting that "the rich get away with crimes all the time", but A: I don't watch comedic, adult cartoons to have the grim facts of reality slammed in my face 24/7, and B: More importantly, it's not true, at least not to that degree. Yes, the wealthy and powerful get more leeway than the rest of us, that is true and always has been. But there's a limit. Ask Bernie Madoff. At the very least, have Carol Pewterschmidt kick her dad out of her life, maybe Lois too. This is actually more infuriating to me than than the avalanche of suck that was Seasons 6-9, because otherwise? This show is getting better again.

I gave you a week to respond, everyone. I'm keeping one of your posts and getting rid of the rest.

UPDATE:
Okay, who the hell is this "Anonymous" and what makes them think they are any further above the rules than the rest of us? Seriously, people. I'm not going to budge here.

I agree the worst thing Brian did when he and Meg were talking in the end of the episode was agreeing with her on the lightning rod theroy and even that's being harsh. Seahorse Seashell Party was definitly a DMOS but the entries which mention Brian as the person who suggested the lightning rod idea should be deleted.

Ahem... writers.

Other episodes.

• Hey, MacFarlane, we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
  • But no seriously, MacFarlane averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
  • Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be Self Depreciating Humour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
• In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
  • I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a Black Hole Sue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
    • Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the Author Avatar is ALWAYS right!
      • Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of an existing story, but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
        • Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
          • There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
          • When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
• The Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
  • What ticks This Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his ACT OF TERRORISM on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." What?! News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about their opinions, that has exactly zero definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if Lois had taken the mayor hostage to prevent gay marriage, would Brian have been so easily converted to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
  • Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. Rape as Comedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an actual rape victim, specifically a child? FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES. You know, I hope her family wasn't watching or anything.
• ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask? Family Guy. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like The Simpsons, and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly Family Guy wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?! I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all my senses were being raped by this single episode. I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
  • "I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.
• Family Guy has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
  • For me, Family Guy's Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
  • The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'Little Shop of Horrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of Brain Bleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
  • Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.
    • Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to everyone!" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third Blue Collar Comedy Tour movie, told by Jeff Foxworthy.
• Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from angsty teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
  • Agreed. I could understand it as a Running Gag (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to The Multiverse" is pretty much the Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. Every single dimension hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them (Ursula legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. What. The. Hell. The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
    • Oh, God, yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. Damn you!
      • Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
      • One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to Bill Clinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
        • That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which might have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, EIGHT YEARS EARLIER! Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, wait....
    • The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
  • I sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the Writer on Board page, and have never watched a new Family Guy again.
• The Miley Cyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are squicky.
  • Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
    • Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...how many girlfriends has he had?
    • What about the scene from the Hannah Montana show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
  • Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a Jump the Shark moment.
• "Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But that's not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But that's not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But that's not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then the freaking principal of the school just jumps out of nowhere and says that Connie is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on Status Quo Is God or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a lesbian creep near the end. (Great Pikmin Fan)
  • What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
    • And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party — and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing — and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
• Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious Plot Hole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (AmuroNT1)
  • There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the Rule of Funny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
    • That moment was when I (Metal Shadow X) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
    • They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge Take That! against the target audience.
• In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a McCain/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
  • The entire episode, really. It's all over the map.
• The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; they do not go well together. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
  • I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
  • And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the whole town shows up to take Stewie away from his family to perform an exorcism, and the Griffins leave Rhode Island. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases — the whole fucking town thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is A GOOD THING TO DO?! Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that the police are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed. Listen, I know it's just Family Guy, and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme Wall Banger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
    • Also, considering that Stewie is like, an INFANT, and infants vomit a lot, it makes even LESS SENSE that they would assume that he is possessed simply because he barfed AFTER EATING A LOT. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
    • I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
    • Don't forget the fact that the Texans immediately try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas did execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing.
  • What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, MacFarlane or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
• "The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame Shaggy Dog moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
  • I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about Seasonal Rot.
• For me the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my opinion.
  • Still the Lampshade Hanging, correction: the expected lampshade hanging with Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed only made it worse.
• For me, they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's over-the-top song about world domination. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated The Simpsons for not being funny anymore, when Family Guy has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives Lisa Simpson a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
• I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
  • Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played Jesus Was Way Cool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but Peter?
• My personal Berserk Button is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic Aesop that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a DMoS for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent. So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
  • Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
• The one where Quagmire begins to rape Marge and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed MacFarlane out. Eventually even MacFarlane admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
  • For me, Quagmire crossed the Moral Event Horizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Emperordaein)
    • It gets worse. Marge eventually GIVES IN. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. WHAT. THE. FUCK. IS wrong with these people?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
    • In my opinion, one of the worst wall bangers about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into Dude, Not Funny! with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, Marge giving in).
  • The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where MacFarlene goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
• My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) Family Guy did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
• What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that anything bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
  • I most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy Doctor Who if you're high. Not cool, man, not cool.
• I pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the Joker.
  • Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from Schindler's List and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn will probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
• When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the Moral Event Horizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
  • And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. WHAT!!!???
• The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like Family Guy uses something way too much for

• After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of Family Guy forever.
• When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in The Aristocrats and in Family Guy where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
  • "You shouldn't have led him on." I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that Aqua Man joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching Family Guy ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like Cerebus Syndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." and playing this ignorance for laughs. Like, when King Of The Hill is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt Strawman Political conservative hijinks!" When Family Guy tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h—wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of Truth in Television? Dude, Not Funny!." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the Aqua Man joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
• Next to Drawn Together, this is the animated show that defines Negative Continuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin NOT Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes "Padre de Familia" where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way, having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a Snap Back at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God (oh, wait...) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
  • In Family Guy, immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an anvilicious strawman conservative.
• The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a Scooby Doo reference that Scooby Doo fans are sick of.
• I know it's Family Guy, and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from Schindler's List for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
  • Here's something strange worth noting— when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
  • Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism that's just played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been more or less Flanderized into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe the writers have some issues.
• Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "McStroke" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in Patch Adams killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something Mad Magazine already did a decade earlier!), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had What Dreams May Come as one of the DVDs no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than this. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these Take Thats are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a Gorn-filled animated snuff film ala Futurama... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
• The second Star Wars parody managed to be surprisingly alright, its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was just tasteless.
• In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "Starlight Express" over and over. Apparently just saying the name of the thing you're making fun of counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the Seltzer And Friedberg book of comedy?
  • The entire episode is a slap in the face to a certain politician. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
• Did anyone else facepalm after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in Whistle While Your Wife Works? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
  • Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since Brian in Love in Season 2 (and re-iterated in Play It Again, Brian), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
• For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular Libby character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she still treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
• Ugh, the episode Baby Not On Board, we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter rebuffs her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. Rule of Funny or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some Karma Houdini moments I can't forgive.
  • Someone should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in Planes Trains And Automobiles. Yes, the entire speech— almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
    • And don't forget they end it by explaining the joke with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...Futurama can't return fast enough in my opinion.
• For me, the Dethroner came in Padre de Familia, when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he laughs and says it must be a woman pilot. THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!
  • You'd think Seth MacFarlane would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
    • Objection, Seth MacFarlane did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
    • Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
• For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a Running Gag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I can only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable jerkass? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
  • That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
• I think we should start listing all the worst Flanderization moments that have degraded Lois from a loving mother and wife to a abusive shrew:
  • "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the wall banging excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this repulsive woman a mother?
  • "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it made Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if it's a woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
    • I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
    • Oh, Lois had an even worse moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. What the fucking hell, woman?!
      • The level of general Character Derailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his doctor for a digital rectal exam, it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
        • One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she LAUGHS! WTF Lois?!?
    • There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
  • Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate Scrappy in my eyes.
  • In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
    • Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!
• The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to Dude, Not Funny!. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
  • It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an infant that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence (maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
  • I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' character derailment when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
• The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
• Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be raped no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to Misogyny Guy at this point.
  • There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, Meg??? Great, now she's the Family Guy equivalent of Evil Manga Kaworu.
• The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights aesop. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
  • I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
• This may not qualify, since it was technically on The Cleveland Show, but it was a crossover episode, and the DMoS moments apply to Family Guy characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that Peter had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
  • Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then had sex with it before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
• At the end of the episode FOX-y Lady, Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor excuse that no one cares, to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast attempt to write a proper ending.
• The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. Squick does not even begin to describe it.
  • For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, my GOD.
  • At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
  • There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
  • I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long bottle episode, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
  • The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
  • It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
  • Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a Take That! to everyone who complained.
  • The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
• The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
  • The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an Easy Sex Change that is Played for Laughs and Squick for the entirety of the episode. The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well. I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No Aesop, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
  • This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.
  • This episode shows Brian's worst descent from the likable voice of reason to Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist, and then enters outright jerkass territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours unhealthy levels of self-importance when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his woeful ineptitude. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is uncharacteristically harsh, but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences Meg when she does ask him about the seminar). Upon The Reveal, Brian's disgust is a protracted Vomit Indiscretion Shot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear squicky, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and unignorable quirk in the series' run of interspecies romance Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' DOG! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there.
    • Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by Robot Chicken.
  • Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. He didn't know that was Quagmire's father. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating him half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
    • Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR) is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
      • The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in Eagleland to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But it's not just not funny it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
• "Horton Hears Domestic Abuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for Refuge in Audacity, they failed, because that is exactly how if works in Real Life. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
  • The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "Horton Hears Domestic Abuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) Manatee Gag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
  • I was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
• All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
  • Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
• I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off Family Guy after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "McCain/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my Family Guy DV Ds away.
  • Dude, Mac Phisto is a borderline MARXIST, and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
• "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
• The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, even if it won't things can't get worse" but no.
  • What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
  • It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
    • This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
• This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
• "Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her Wallbanging motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, but she's already cheated on him before, so...) No! She just continues on in her already Scrappy Flanderization. And she gets off the whole ordeal with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter (wait ''silly me'' she didn't apologise to Peter, '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!).
  • The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
  • Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an abusive parent we can now add sexual abuse as well!
  • But the ultimate DMoS of the episode was the bar scene. Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl? It may have been Stewie in drag, sure, but the point of the costume was to fool the producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'' Wouldn't Brian also think that this is a ONE YEAR OLD's hand that he's trying to place on his other tail?

"Why where the other four episodes folderised?"

Somebody is trying to prove what I'm saying is wrong?

Probably because it's a joke you keep trying to deconstruct in a hilariously desperate manner.