History DethroningMoment / FamilyGuy

24th May '16 4:32:32 PM fruitstripegum
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* fruitstripegum: "Gone With the Wind": Loretta dies, and Cleveland naturally cries during her funeral...and Donna gets angry with him! I get that Loretta was a bitch, but she was also the woman Cleveland was married to for about 14 years, AND the mother of his son! For god's sake, does Donna expect him to be HAPPY that someone ''died''?!
21st May '16 5:29:52 AM griffn29
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* Griffn29: The episode that I didn't like was called Burn Down the Bayit. Half of the jokes so far were not really funny, Quagmire gardening and "spotting a giggity at 10 o'clock" is out of character for him, the set up to the main plot is very contrived, and at one point there is a bizarre joke about dying teenagers final "tweets" that does not sound accurate at all. I didn't watch the full episode, and I don't think I am going to see the rest of that one.
20th May '16 9:55:23 PM merotoker
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** Tropers/{{dementia13}}: Don't have a problem with something being uncomfortable to watch, but musical numbers are usually the dew line for a show having [[JumpTheShark jumped the shark]]. Mostly averted in ''Family Guy'''s case, as they're there due to [=MacFarlane=]'s fanhood, but "Shipoopi" was some of the most [[OverlyLongGag overlong, unfunny, obnoxious filler]] I've seen, and it was compounded by giving the London Sillynannies a musical number of their own. Its only funny moment was showing John Madden dancing along in the broadcast booth. IIRC, that episode was tied in with FOX's Super Bowl broadcast that particular season. Talk about putting your worst foot forward.

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** Tropers/{{dementia13}}: Don't have a problem with something being uncomfortable to watch, but musical numbers are usually the dew line for a show having [[JumpTheShark [[JumpingTheShark jumped the shark]]. Mostly averted in ''Family Guy'''s case, as they're there due to [=MacFarlane=]'s fanhood, but "Shipoopi" was some of the most [[OverlyLongGag overlong, unfunny, obnoxious filler]] I've seen, and it was compounded by giving the London Sillynannies a musical number of their own. Its only funny moment was showing John Madden dancing along in the broadcast booth. IIRC, that episode was tied in with FOX's Super Bowl broadcast that particular season. Talk about putting your worst foot forward.



** Tropers/{{Maedar}}: The Elizabeth Smart joke stands out as what I believe is the most despicable thing on any animated show, but seeing as that has already been mentioned, I'll add something else. Most fans of this show think the whole "Grinds My Gears" routine was one of the best gags on the show (many wishing they'd make it into a regular segment) totally ignoring that Peter makes a racist joke and a sexist joke over the course of it. (People think the second one is funny because they think Lindsay Lohan is an AcceptableTarget, but the message is kind of deluded coming from a character who has committed every single immoral action she's been accused of, on a far larger scale.) To paraphrase a character from a show that ''Family Guy'' is a cheap rip-off of, I am lying when I say that the "Grinds My Gears" routine was a well-plotted piece of nonclaptrap that never made me want to retch.

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** Tropers/{{Maedar}}: The Elizabeth Smart joke stands out as what I believe is the most despicable thing on any animated show, but seeing as that has already been mentioned, I'll add something else. Most fans of this show think the whole "Grinds My Gears" routine was one of the best gags on the show (many wishing they'd make it into a regular segment) totally ignoring that Peter makes a racist joke and a sexist joke over the course of it. (People think the second one is funny because they think Lindsay Lohan is an AcceptableTarget, {{Acceptable Target|s}}, but the message is kind of deluded coming from a character who has committed every single immoral action she's been accused of, on a far larger scale.) To paraphrase a character from a show that ''Family Guy'' is a cheap rip-off of, I am lying when I say that the "Grinds My Gears" routine was a well-plotted piece of nonclaptrap that never made me want to retch.



* Tropers/{{Midoriri}}: For me, it was one of the {{CutawayGag}}s in "Padre de Familia". Brian reminds Peter that he (Peter) didn't even know about 9/11 until years later. Okay, fine... but then we cut to Lois, watching the coverage with tears in her eyes and a tissue in hand... and Peter walks in, glances at the TV, laughs and says "Must be a woman-pilot," before walking off. [[DudeNotFunny That's not fucking funny]]!
** Tropers/{{Knightofbalance}}: I came back and watched this episode and...I think I may have felt a part of myself die here. Not just because of the Simpsons cutawat gag, which I will quickly address here: If you can't respect your roots in fiction (and in life most times) then you won't be respected. You never see Homer beat up or insult Fred Flintstone, who likewise never beat up that husband from the Honeymmoners, simply out of respect. Family Guy doesn't seem to have the same respect and thus, will never earn it. Now for my main problem: I think this marks the descent of Brian's character from being a smart Deadpan Snarker to a stereotypical liberal douche. Thanks, writers of Family Guy (I highly doubt Seth would stoop this low) for beginning the destruction of your most respected character.

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* Tropers/{{Midoriri}}: For me, it was one of the {{CutawayGag}}s {{Cutaway Gag}}s in "Padre de Familia". Brian reminds Peter that he (Peter) didn't even know about 9/11 until years later. Okay, fine... but then we cut to Lois, watching the coverage with tears in her eyes and a tissue in hand... and Peter walks in, glances at the TV, laughs and says "Must be a woman-pilot," before walking off. [[DudeNotFunny That's not fucking funny]]!
** Tropers/{{Knightofbalance}}: I came back and watched this episode and...I think I may have felt a part of myself die here. Not just because of the Simpsons cutawat cutaway gag, which I will quickly address here: If you can't respect your roots in fiction (and in life most times) then you won't be respected. You never see Homer beat up or insult Fred Flintstone, who likewise never beat up that husband from the Honeymmoners, simply out of respect. Family Guy doesn't seem to have the same respect and thus, will never earn it. Now for my main problem: I think this marks the descent of Brian's character from being a smart Deadpan Snarker to a stereotypical liberal douche. Thanks, writers of Family Guy (I highly doubt Seth would stoop this low) for beginning the destruction of your most respected character.



* Tropers/SNESMasterKI: The episode "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven", which can basically be described as an anti-theist ComicBook/ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''WesternAnimation/MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.

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* Tropers/SNESMasterKI: The episode "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven", which can basically be described as an anti-theist ComicBook/ChickTract, ComicBook/{{Chick Tract|s}}, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''WesternAnimation/MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.



*** Tropers/KingCrInuYasha: If that isn't enough to get your blood-boiling, here's the kicker: Apparently the sub-story, not the atheism/Christianity "debate", was the one to be advertised on commercials, meaning FOX and[=/=]or the writers of the show, intentionally or otherwise, lured viewers with a somewhat interesting story and switched it with a [[TheWarOnStraw [=Strawman=]]] argument on religion. As ConfusedMatthew once said, "Surprise! You're being preached at!"

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*** Tropers/KingCrInuYasha: If that isn't enough to get your blood-boiling, here's the kicker: Apparently the sub-story, not the atheism/Christianity "debate", was the one to be advertised on commercials, meaning FOX and[=/=]or the writers of the show, intentionally or otherwise, lured viewers with a somewhat interesting story and switched it with a [[TheWarOnStraw [=Strawman=]]] argument on religion. As ConfusedMatthew WebVideo/ConfusedMatthew once said, "Surprise! You're being preached at!"



** Tropers/{{QuiteContrary}}: I changed my pick from Not All Dogs Go To Heaven when I rewatched this episode. I could careless about the importance of the speech and whether it revives and reinvigorates's the viewers love in Brian. Sure that was a cheap gimmick, that's not my problem. My problem is the fact that it's coming from Quagmire. First of all I agree with the other tropers, it's stupid that Quagmire suddenly has this blinding hate for Brian. Second of all even if Quagmire is occasionally funny, he's quite possibly the most morally benkrupt character of the show. I mean if the writers really needed for Brian to be read the riot act by somebody, why would it be Quagmire? This moment ruined Quagmire for me. That might say something wrong about me, that I was tolerant about the antics of a rapist and murderer, but at least he didn't imply, no state that he was morally superior to Brian. Brian's done some morally repugnant things to, even after this episode, but at worse he's an equal to Quagmire and shouldn't be looked down by him. Hate Quagmire now.

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** Tropers/{{QuiteContrary}}: I changed my pick from Not All Dogs Go To Heaven when I rewatched this episode. I could careless about the importance of the speech and whether it revives and reinvigorates's the viewers love in Brian. Sure that was a cheap gimmick, that's not my problem. My problem is the fact that it's coming from Quagmire. First of all I agree with the other tropers, it's stupid that Quagmire suddenly has this blinding hate for Brian. Second of all even if Quagmire is occasionally funny, he's quite possibly the most morally benkrupt bankrupt character of the show. I mean if the writers really needed for Brian to be read the riot act by somebody, why would it be Quagmire? This moment ruined Quagmire for me. That might say something wrong about me, that I was tolerant about the antics of a rapist and murderer, but at least he didn't imply, no state that he was morally superior to Brian. Brian's done some morally repugnant things to, even after this episode, but at worse he's an equal to Quagmire and shouldn't be looked down by him. Hate Quagmire now.



* Tropers/{{Shasarazade}}: The 2,000-Year Old Virgin. Not only was this episode an incredibly offensive attempt at a ChristmasEpisode, but it completely negates all of the religious arguments posed by this show for the last few years. WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy has gone out of its way in multiple episodes to deny the existence of God and to provide "proof" that God doesn't exist. One episode even had Brian tell Meg that God couldn't possibly exist because if He did, then He wouldn't have allowed her family to abuse her the way they do. Well, not only does this episode center around Jesus Christ trying to lose his virginity, but they refer to God repeatedly and they depict God onscreen. Which is it, SethMacFarlane? Does God exist or does He not? You use your show as your mouthpiece for your atheist views, but then you ignore such views just because you want a ChristmasEpisode? You're well within your rights to write your show however you want, but you can't deny an entire religion for several years and then feature it predominantly in an offensive, unnecessary episode. Either God exists or He doesn't. Make up your mind.


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* Tropers/{{Shasarazade}}: The 2,000-Year Old Virgin. Not only was this episode an incredibly offensive attempt at a ChristmasEpisode, but it completely negates all of the religious arguments posed by this show for the last few years. WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' has gone out of its way in multiple episodes to deny the existence of God and to provide "proof" that God doesn't exist. One episode even had Brian tell Meg that God couldn't possibly exist because if He did, then He wouldn't have allowed her family to abuse her the way they do. Well, not only does this episode center around Jesus Christ trying to lose his virginity, but they refer to God repeatedly and they depict God onscreen. Which is it, SethMacFarlane? Creator/SethMacFarlane? Does God exist or does He not? You use your show as your mouthpiece for your atheist views, but then you ignore such views just because you want a ChristmasEpisode? You're well within your rights to write your show however you want, but you can't deny an entire religion for several years and then feature it predominantly in an offensive, unnecessary episode. Either God exists or He doesn't. Make up your mind.

10th May '16 12:17:33 PM Midna
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*** Tropers/{{Midna}}: I don't watch Family Guy that much, but "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven" is the kind of episode that completely falls apart when you think about it for more than a minute. So Meg becomes a fundamentalist Christian, and Brian convinces her to drop it by providing evidence for why there isn't a God. Okay, fine. Preachy as hell, but people who don't like it can go watch something else or pretend the episode doesn't exist, and move on. But prior to this episode, and even after, God is a recurring character, as is Jesus, who is treated as the actual Son of God and not as some delusional weirdo. Yet, despite the actual, definitive existence of God and the confirmed truth of Jesus's words in the Family Guy universe, [[FlatEarthAtheist Brian still chooses not to believe in them]]. That's literally no different from insisting that the sky is pink, even though everyone you talk to says the sky is blue, and in fact you yourself know and have independently confirmed that the sky is blue, yet continue to insist that it's pink. I'm agnostic, so I'm not really in any position to discuss this, but the way it's written, Brian isn't just preaching atheist viewpoints but being deliberately contrarian for the sake of it even though he knows he's wrong--which doesn't exactly paint of the atheist community this episode tries to convince members of whichever organized religion to join in a positive light.
7th May '16 4:36:48 PM nombretomado
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* Tropers/AlexSora89: I can't think of a single episode, since the series as a whole usually makes him go [[DudeNotFunny "that-couldn't-make-me-laugh-in-a-million-years"]], but a nice example that could be picked is the Italian dub of the episode, "No Meals On Wheels". I'm not talking about "The crippletron"; I'm talking about the ending. You know, [[CharacterDevelopment Peter begins to understand what being disabled means and feels like]]... until the last line of the episode is said by Peter: "''Series/GreysAnatomy?'' [which Joe was planning to watch with the Griffins] Come on, that series doesn't stand on its feet!" (the expression means, "it's pointless"). It was all a setup for a lame joke. Seriously, they PlayedForLaughs CharacterDevelopment to pull a lame TakeThat at both ''GreysAnatomy'' and [[DudeNotFunny disabled people everywhere]]. The thing that "couldn't stand on its feet" [[ShootTheShaggyDog is the punchline itself]].

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* Tropers/AlexSora89: I can't think of a single episode, since the series as a whole usually makes him go [[DudeNotFunny "that-couldn't-make-me-laugh-in-a-million-years"]], but a nice example that could be picked is the Italian dub of the episode, "No Meals On Wheels". I'm not talking about "The crippletron"; I'm talking about the ending. You know, [[CharacterDevelopment Peter begins to understand what being disabled means and feels like]]... until the last line of the episode is said by Peter: "''Series/GreysAnatomy?'' [which Joe was planning to watch with the Griffins] Come on, that series doesn't stand on its feet!" (the expression means, "it's pointless"). It was all a setup for a lame joke. Seriously, they PlayedForLaughs CharacterDevelopment to pull a lame TakeThat at both ''GreysAnatomy'' ''Grey's Anatomy'' and [[DudeNotFunny disabled people everywhere]]. The thing that "couldn't stand on its feet" [[ShootTheShaggyDog is the punchline itself]].
23rd Apr '16 8:17:40 PM KoopaKid17
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* Tropers/KoopaKid17: Season 5 is when the show started relying on shock humor and CringeComedy and it rears its ugly head for pretty much the duration of "The Tan Aquatic with Steve Zissou". The worst of it has to be the scene where Peter, Quagmire, Cleveland and Joe play a round of golf. Quagmire lets loose a stream of expletives when things don't go his way and then, from out of nowhere, Cleveland says, "A white man shouldn't play sports in the first place." Yeah, because that line [[DudeNotFunny would never work]] [[DoubleStandard if a person of any another race said that about blacks]].



** Tropers/KoopaKid17: My [=DMoS=] is from that same episode. Brain and Stewie smugly jab about America not being able to attack Germany sooner during World War II because they don't have any oil. Trying to decimate that America had the same problems in 2008 as it did in the late 1930s and rubbing it in our faces? Shame on you, Seth.
10th Apr '16 9:02:17 PM Scsigs
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* Tropers/Scsigs: Four words, "[[Brian's a Bad Father]]." Does that sound right to you? Well it shouldn't because it's not. This is the single worst episode in the worst season of this show's history. Sure, there are other bad episodes, I did just type that this is the worst season of the show, but I will argue this is the worst out of the bunch. How has nobody brought this up yet here? It seems like ever since Quagmire gave Brian his "The reason you suck speech," Brian's character, as well as the rest of the show, have been on a steady decline in quality ever since then. What does this episode try its damnedest to prove to the audience? Read the name. Yes, it's that transparent. First of all, Brian wasn't a bad father to Dillon once he really started trying to be a father when he was introduced, he was a little overly protective, but that's better than nothing, and it's the exact opposite of how their relationship's portrayed here. Second, Quagmire's mentioning of him being a bad father was way out of line, but you could see his reasoning because Brian really hasn't seen Dillon since his only episode before this one. In all reality, you'd imagine that Brian would've started e-mailing, or calling him every so often, but apparently not. Third, Brian using Dillon to become a writer on his show, since he's an actor on a show that's filming at a studio in Quahog, is just not how you'd expect this episode to go. Since he apparently hasn't been in contact with Dillon for a while, you'd expect him to go and reconnect with him, spend some time together, prove Quagmire wrong, but no. Apparently the new Brian is the one at the forefront of the writers' minds when writing Family Guy and his transformation into his full-on douche persona is now complete with this episode. It gets to the point where the job was all Brian cared about when Dillon came back, then they have the overly long gag where he packs away some of the food from the snack tray in containers, then just backs his car into the studio, somehow, and straps the whole table into the back of it, then drives off with it. This episode single-handedly derailed Brian's character into everything Quagmire was describing in his speech to him, if not worse further than he was already slipping. If there was any solace to this whole stupid episode, it was the "can of whupass" cutaway. That made me laugh so hard because they actually personified an actual "can of whupass" that beats the crap out of Peter, but it wasn't at all worth the rest of this shlock. It speaks volumes when the most consistently-written character on this show now is Stewie and that's only after his slight derailment already with the writers putting forth more of his effeminate qualities and lessening his manic sociopathic and genius qualities already.
29th Mar '16 5:35:23 AM RCFU200
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11th Mar '16 4:38:35 PM maxwellsilver
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* Tropers/TyeDyeWildebeest: "Hell Comes to Quahog" was overall a pretty decent episode, but it had quite possibly the most tasteless and unfunny cutaway gag in the history of the series. When Brian complains about Quahog's new Superstore USA, Stewie claims that he just hates department stores because of that one time a "special" boy pet him too hard in front of a UsefulNotes/{{Kmart}}. We then cut to [[CaptainObvious a developmentally disabled child continually petting Brian really hard]] (to the point where he finds it difficult to keep his balance) until Brian snaps and bites him. Then the child starts crying, and we cut back to the story. That's it. The scene doesn't have a punchline; [[DudeNotFunny we're just supposed to laugh at the developmentally disabled kid]] [[UnfortunateImplications simply because he's developmentally disabled]]. It wasn't quite enough to ruin the episode for me, but it certainly didn't help.

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* Tropers/TyeDyeWildebeest: "Hell Comes to Quahog" was overall a pretty decent episode, but it had quite possibly the most tasteless and unfunny cutaway gag in the history of the series. When Brian complains about Quahog's new Superstore USA, Stewie claims that he just hates department stores because of that one time a "special" boy pet him too hard in front of a UsefulNotes/{{Kmart}}. We then cut to [[CaptainObvious a developmentally disabled child continually petting Brian really hard]] hard (to the point where he finds it difficult to keep his balance) until Brian snaps and bites him. Then the child starts crying, and we cut back to the story. That's it. The scene doesn't have a punchline; [[DudeNotFunny we're just supposed to laugh at the developmentally disabled kid]] kid [[UnfortunateImplications simply because he's developmentally disabled]]. It wasn't quite enough to ruin the episode for me, but it certainly didn't help.



* Tropers/AlexSora89: I can't think of a single episode, since the series as a whole usually makes him go [[DudeNotFunny "that-couldn't-make-me-laugh-in-a-million-years"]], but a nice example that could be picked is the Italian dub of the episode, "No Meals On Wheels". I'm not talking about "[[CombiningMecha The c]][[RefugeInAudacity rippl]][[CrossesTheLineTwice etron]]"; I'm talking about the ending. You know, [[CharacterDevelopment Peter begins to understand what being disabled means and feels like]]... until the last line of the episode is said by Peter: "''GreysAnatomy?'' [which Joe was planning to watch with the Griffins] Come on, that series doesn't stand on its feet!" (the expression means, "it's pointless"). It was all a setup for a lame joke. Seriously, they PlayedForLaughs CharacterDevelopment to pull a lame TakeThat at both ''GreysAnatomy'' and [[DudeNotFunny disabled people everywhere]]. The thing that "couldn't stand on its feet" [[ShootTheShaggyDog is the punchline itself]].

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* Tropers/AlexSora89: I can't think of a single episode, since the series as a whole usually makes him go [[DudeNotFunny "that-couldn't-make-me-laugh-in-a-million-years"]], but a nice example that could be picked is the Italian dub of the episode, "No Meals On Wheels". I'm not talking about "[[CombiningMecha The c]][[RefugeInAudacity rippl]][[CrossesTheLineTwice etron]]"; "The crippletron"; I'm talking about the ending. You know, [[CharacterDevelopment Peter begins to understand what being disabled means and feels like]]... until the last line of the episode is said by Peter: "''GreysAnatomy?'' "''Series/GreysAnatomy?'' [which Joe was planning to watch with the Griffins] Come on, that series doesn't stand on its feet!" (the expression means, "it's pointless"). It was all a setup for a lame joke. Seriously, they PlayedForLaughs CharacterDevelopment to pull a lame TakeThat at both ''GreysAnatomy'' and [[DudeNotFunny disabled people everywhere]]. The thing that "couldn't stand on its feet" [[ShootTheShaggyDog is the punchline itself]].
11th Mar '16 4:17:22 PM maxwellsilver
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** Rosebud64: [[ThrowTheDogABone The writers]] [[HopeSpot seemed to give]] [[ChewToy Meg]] the love she deserved. So much for that. They could have give her a little more respect since that episode, but no, she had to go back to [[TheUnfavorite her]][[TheWoobie se]][[BrokenBird lf]] by the end. Because StatusQuoIsGod. And before you say "but that episode had AnAesop with BeYourself!" remember that it becomes a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop if this is just a lame excuse to [[ButtMonkey put the character through shit]].

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** Rosebud64: [[ThrowTheDogABone The writers]] [[HopeSpot writers seemed to give]] [[ChewToy Meg]] give Meg the love she deserved. So much for that. They could have give her a little more respect since that episode, but no, she had to go back to [[TheUnfavorite her]][[TheWoobie se]][[BrokenBird lf]] herself by the end. Because StatusQuoIsGod. And before you say "but that episode had AnAesop with BeYourself!" remember that it becomes a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop if this is just a lame excuse to [[ButtMonkey put the character through shit]].shit.
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