History DethroningMoment / FamilyGuy

14th Nov '17 1:54:07 PM lordofthestars
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* Tropers/LordoftheStars: I haven't sincerely enjoyed Family Guy in years, and honestly, I continue to watch it out of morbid fascination. Maybe it reassures me in the sense that, anything I might go on to create in my life couldn't possibly be this bad. But I think "The D in Apartment 23" has irritated me a lot more than any other recent episodes, at least to the point where I wanted to bother making a post here. This episode involved Brian making a racist tweet, and getting dragged through the mud, shamed by the entire town, and harrassed to no end by everyone he encounters. It's clear that Seth McFarlane is trying to imitate the excessively hostile experience someone goes through on socia media in real life, if they make a less than sensitive comment others deem socially unacceptable. Which, I'll agree, is definitely a real and relevant problem. But here there are three key reasons episode comes off as both unsympathetic and uninformed. First, the harrassment happens to Brian in real life. You'll be hard pressed to find many people who confront those they disagree with in real life on the internet, primarily because anonymity is such a prevalent aspect. That's why cyberbullying is such a hotly debated topic; it's all online, and if it's all online and not in person, can it really be held to the same standards as face-to-face harrassment? Most of us are aware of how internet fights and harrassment work, so the townsfolk going after Brian in real life required some suspension of disbelief. Second, when people make those comments in real life, they usually stem from ignorance, lack of understanding of a situation, or are even, at times, unprovoked. Brian was just being a racist piece of shit. Not to say that's never why people are driven off of a website, but it sure makes it hard to feel bad for Brian here. And third, Brian never apologises and barely sees any fault in what he said. Because, and I quote, it was all "Just a joke." Brian deletes the tweet, but never actually says he's sorry, and only admits the joke was bad when confronting the angry mob. Look. Do people online drastically overreact to small transgressions? Of course. (If you want to see a show that understands this and parodies it accurately, check out The Amazing World of Gumball.) But that doesn't mean it's fine to be a racist douche. Throughout the whole episode, Seth acts as though the blame falls on everyone else for not finding racist humor funny, as if he literally cannot concieve of a show being funny and likeable without having mean spirited, racist, homophobic, or otherwise offensive humor. (Hm. Suddenly all those shots at Modern Family and Bob's Burgers make a lot more sense!) And finally, the straw that broke the camel's back in this case was the damn Kingsman: The Secret Service parody scene. In the original scene, it's secret agent Harry Hart taking out a churchful of bigoted jerks in an incredibly violent-yet-satisfying gorefest. In Family Guy, it's Meg and Chris slaughtering a cafeteria full of angry fellow students who are pissed that the siblings don't openly condemn Brian for being racist. (Notice that none of the family members, even as they're being mistreated, say that they don't agree with Brian, or that his opinion doesn't stand for them? Lois even says she knows Brian is a good person, but we haven't seen any evidence of that in a very long time.) Uh, news flash, Seth. If this is really how you view the backlash when you make bigoted jokes, you're not Harry Hart in that iconic scene. You're one of the churchgoers.
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20th Oct '17 5:50:27 PM KrazyTVWatcher
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** Tropers/KrazyTVWatcher: Per above, it looks like I'm not the only one who's pissed off with [[Main/{{TheReasonYouSuckSpeech}} the speech]] [[Main/{{Hypocrite}} Quagmire]] [[Main/{{TheReasonYouSuckSpeech}} gave Brian]]. Halfway through the speech, I literally dropped my jaw at all of the things Quagmire called Brian out on, [[Main/{{HypocriticalHumor}} all of which he himself is guilty of]]. At this exact moment, I have never felt so enraged that I wanted to punch Quagmire so hard in the face. Brian, however, [[Main/{{TaughtByExperience}} stopped doing these things a long time ago]]. To top things off, that hypocritical bastard made Brian cry!
15th Sep '17 12:14:52 PM bitemytail
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** The joke was that Fox cancels a lot of shows. Seriously it wasn't that hard of a joke to get.



** ..... it was satire on abstinence sex ed programs. Do you not get satire? You're literally complaining about satire. This would be like me criticizing Colbert for being a Republican because I'm too brain dead to get jokes.
15th Sep '17 11:42:44 AM WelcomeToYourTape
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**..... it was satire on abstinence sex ed programs. Do you not get satire? You're literally complaining about satire. This would be like me criticizing Colbert for being a Republican because I'm too brain dead to get jokes.
15th Sep '17 11:36:53 AM WelcomeToYourTape
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** The joke was that Fox cancels a lot of shows. Seriously it wasn't that hard of a joke to get.
17th Aug '17 9:24:00 PM TommyTiger
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Creator/SethMacFarlane and his writing team sought to create a show that's [[RefugeInAudacity so offensive it's funny]]. In these cases, they probably [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck put too much emphasis on the former]].

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Creator/SethMacFarlane and his writing team sought to create a show that's [[RefugeInAudacity so offensive it's funny]]. In these cases, they probably [[DudeNotFunny put too much]] [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck put too much emphasis on the former]].
13th Aug '17 10:37:19 AM MelancholyUtopia
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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: Not only that, but God not forgiving adultery doesn't make a lick of sense. In the Bible, David committed adultery ''and'' indirect murder, but due to tearfully regretting his sins, God forgives him, on the grounds that he gets punished. If he can forgive that, why can't he forgive less? It feels less like the writers want to be legitimately reasoned with, and more like that they will pull blatant lies out of their asses just to make religion look bad.

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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: Not only that, but God not forgiving adultery doesn't make a lick of sense. In the Bible, King David committed adultery ''and'' indirect murder, but due to tearfully regretting his sins, God forgives him, on the grounds that he gets punished. If he can forgive that, why can't he forgive less? It feels less like the writers want to be legitimately reasoned with, and more like that they will pull blatant lies out of their asses just to make religion look bad.
18th Jul '17 6:33:03 AM YoungPrincessZelda
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* YoungPrincessZelda: "Long John Peter". Don't be fooled by the title of this episode. The pirate thing is only 4 minutes long. All that happens is that Peter and his crew siege Mort's pharmacy, attack a british car, and that's it. They could've and should've made it the whole episode and if they wanted to keep Chris's plot intact they should've made it to where she got shanghaied or something.



** Tropers/YoungPrincessZelda: Giving up my "Fresh Heir" complaint because I had a lot of issues with this episode, such as Stewie saying "That's a cool whip" which brings back the painfully unfunny cool whip joke, the main plot, and ending. But to narrow it down, I had to pick the moment where Peter, Joe, and Quagmire fight the 3 barguys. I could rant forever on that part, but the part where Peter tries to open a can of spinach was just fucking lazy. Andrew Goldberg (Writer of this episode and the notorious "The Juice is Loose"), if you're reading this, learn to fucking write, you dipshit! I'm sick of your lazy fatass writing! Can't wait for the Parents Television Council to get medieval on this one.
16th Jun '17 9:33:18 PM Maddoxsort
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** Tropers/{{Maddoxsort}}: This is the one episode that caused me to swear off ''Family Guy'': "Dog Gone", which centered around cruelty to and even murder of dogs. More specifically, the brutal murders of dogs and even a bisection of a pup. As a fellow dog-lover whose owes most of their happiness to the existence of dogs, seeing a whole episode about dog carnage was not just fucked up, but unforgivable. After that episode I couldn't return to show in good conscience knowing that some motherfucker thought it would be quaint to show a dog getting bit in half. And even though we have the "no animals were harmed" message, it does little to ease the bad memories when the warning airs after it's all said and done. Classic ''Series/MacGyver'' was courteous enough to provide a message that the episode depicted a scene where an animal would be badly harmed (the black rhino poaching episode) but it was all simulated. How I wish the same went for here- "don't watch this episode if you hate seeing the brutal murder of dogs, because we're gonna cut one in half, and if you love dogs, please change the channel."

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** Tropers/{{Maddoxsort}}: This is the one episode that caused me to swear off ''Family Guy'': "Dog Gone", which centered around cruelty to and even murder of dogs. More specifically, the brutal murders of dogs and even a bisection of a pup. As a fellow dog-lover whose owes most of their happiness to the existence of dogs, seeing a whole episode about dog carnage was not just fucked up, but unforgivable. After that episode I couldn't return to show in good conscience knowing that some motherfucker thought it would be quaint to show a dog getting bit in half. And even though we have the "no animals were harmed" message, it does little to ease the bad memories when the warning airs after it's all said and done. Classic ''Series/MacGyver'' was courteous enough to provide a message that the episode depicted a scene where an animal would be badly harmed (the black rhino poaching episode) but it was all simulated. How I wish the same went for here- "don't watch this episode if you hate seeing the brutal murder of dogs, because we're gonna cut one in half, and if you truly love dogs, please change the channel."
16th Jun '17 9:32:59 PM Maddoxsort
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** Tropers/{{Maddoxsort}}: This is the one episode that caused me to swear off ''Family Guy'': "Dog Gone", which centered around cruelty to and even murder of dogs. More specifically, the brutal murders of dogs and even a bisection of a pup. As a fellow dog-lover whose owes most of their happiness to the existence of dogs, seeing a whole episode about dog carnage was not just fucked up, but unforgivable. After that episode I couldn't return to show in good conscience knowing that some motherfucker thought it would be quaint to show a dog getting bit in half. And even though we have the "no animals were harmed" message, it does little to ease the bad memories when the warning airs after it's all said and done. Classic ''Series/MacGyver'' was courteous enough to provide a message that the episode depicted a scene where an animal would be badly harmed (the black rhino poaching episode) but it was all simulated. How I wish the same went for here- "don't watch this episode if you hate seeing the brutal murder of dogs."

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** Tropers/{{Maddoxsort}}: This is the one episode that caused me to swear off ''Family Guy'': "Dog Gone", which centered around cruelty to and even murder of dogs. More specifically, the brutal murders of dogs and even a bisection of a pup. As a fellow dog-lover whose owes most of their happiness to the existence of dogs, seeing a whole episode about dog carnage was not just fucked up, but unforgivable. After that episode I couldn't return to show in good conscience knowing that some motherfucker thought it would be quaint to show a dog getting bit in half. And even though we have the "no animals were harmed" message, it does little to ease the bad memories when the warning airs after it's all said and done. Classic ''Series/MacGyver'' was courteous enough to provide a message that the episode depicted a scene where an animal would be badly harmed (the black rhino poaching episode) but it was all simulated. How I wish the same went for here- "don't watch this episode if you hate seeing the brutal murder of dogs.dogs, because we're gonna cut one in half, and if you love dogs, please change the channel."
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