To-do list:
- Does Not Like Shoes was renamed to Prefers Going Barefoot and rewritten to focus on characters who explicitly dislike wearing shoes, and the old name was disambiguated. Move examples that fit at least one of the tropes accordingly if possible, and remove other examples and ZCEs.
- Clean up wicks. Examples pertaining to martial artists can go to Barefoot Martial Artist
- Clean up wicks. Examples pertaining to martial artists can go to Barefoot Martial Artist
This trope, based on the description is much broader than the name would suggest, being just about characters that go about barefoot a lot of the time, rather than explicitely disliking wearing shoes. The wick check suggests that that's mostly how it's being used as well. Thing is, that's pretty damn chairsy, don't you think?
At minimum this needs a redefinition, if it can even be salvaged. Cutting and yarding a trope about a character specifically disliking shoes is also a solid option, considering just how extensive the misuse is. As a third option, disambiguating between the subtropes listed on the page could be considered.
Wick check:
- (Handy Feet, description) Expect this character to be the kind of individual who goes barefoot so as to keep their feet from being restrained.
- (Characters.Bloodborne Secondary Characters) Does Not Like Shoes: Although not apparent, the guide shows that Iosefka goes barefoot. So does her impostor. Which is odd, considering the female version of the White Church outfit that the player can wear has white boots/shoes with it. Data mining reveals that the version of the outfit that Iosefka wears is a unique variant without the boots.
- (Characters.Bram Stokers Dracula) Does Not Like Shoes: They are all barefoot.
- (Characters.Dot Flow) Does Not Like Shoes: Never seen wearing shoes, going around the seafloor in her bare feet.
- (Characters.Dragon Ball GT Villains) Does Not Like Shoes: Constantly barefoot.
- (Characters.Final Fantasy VII Remake Other Characters) Does Not Like Shoes: She is barefoot.
- (Characters.God Of War Series Norse Monsters) Does Not Like Shoes: They don't have any footwear whatsoever. Granted, it's not needed seeing as they hover above the ground.
- (Characters.Ico) Does Not Like Shoes: Yorda is never seen having shoes on.
- (Characters.Isuca) Does Not Like Shoes: She's barefoot in every one of her appearances.
- (Characters.Planescape Torment) Does Not Like Shoes: She's always seen without shoes... except in some official art, curiously.
- (Characters.Re Zero Witch Cult Does Not Like Shoes: Her human form doesn't wear shoes.
- (Characters.Remnant From The Ashes) Does Not Like Shoes: Despite being in the winter realm of Reisum and its unending ice fields, she's always barefoot.
- (Characters.Rosengarten Saga) Does Not Like Shoes: She seems content to traipse about barefoot.
- (Characters.Samurai Warriors 1) Does Not Like Shoes: She's barefoot in both of her alternate outfits.
- (Characters.The King Of Fighters XI) Does Not Like Shoes: She is barefoot at all times, even when not fighting. Combined with her baggy pants, it gives her a down-to-earth fighter appeal.
- (Characters.The Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service) Does Not Like Shoes: As a little boy in the backstory, Yaichi is never seen with shoes.
- (Characters.Titan Souls) Does Not Like Shoes: The protagonist is barefoot the entire game.
- (Characters.Viva Pinata Helpful Characters) Does Not Like Shoes: Always barefoot.
- (Creator.Beth Behrs) Does Not Like Shoes: She frequently appears barefoot in her acting roles and on social media, namely when earthing or performing yoga.
- (DarthWiki.A Tale Of Heroes) Does Not Like Shoes: Is barefoot most of the time.
- (Fanfic.Total Drama Tween Throwdown) Does Not Like Shoes: A select few have rid themselves of their footwear.
- (InkSuitActor.Disney) In Zootopia: Gazelle is Shakira as a gazelle. Both of them are pop stars, have blonde curly hair, broad hips, and wear similar outfits. The only difference being Gazelle wears shoes and Shakira Does Not Like Shoes, ironic as Gazelle is essentially one of the few characters to wear shoes in the film.
- (Manga.Kamisama Kiss) Does Not Like Shoes: When he's not posing as a human, Tomoe nearly always goes barefoot.
- (Manga.School Mermaid) Does Not Like Shoes: The Mermaids do not wear any sort of footwear and go barefoot all the time. Any human that becomes a Mermaid lost their shoes when they transformed.
- (Music.Celtic Woman) Does Not Like Shoes: Máiréad N. has been known to perform at lease one solo number barefoot. See "Granuaile's Dance" from the A New Journey concert.
- (Recap.Star Trek S 3 E 20 The Way To Eden) Does Not Like Shoes: Dr. Sevrin and the space hippies. At one point, Scotty even disparages them as "barefooted watchacallens."
- (VideoGame.Killer 7) Does Not Like Shoes: Kaede Smith never uses shoes or boots when you're playing as her. This is the reason why her nickname as part of the Killer 7 is "Barefoot", and Iwazaru always refers to her this way.
- (VideoGame.The Legend Of Zelda Majoras Mask) Does Not Like Shoes: A number of characters. The Rosa Sisters, Kamaro, and Guru-Guru come to mind.
- (VisualNovel.Saya No Uta) Does Not Like Shoes: Saya is always barefoot.
- (WebVideo.Manatee Girl The Movie) Does Not Like Shoes: Manatee Girl does not like shoes. Or sports bras.
- (WesternAnimation.Inside Out) Does Not Like Shoes: Joy (as well as everyone else's Joys, it seems) goes barefoot, though she doesn't really have toes. As a toddler, Riley is also usually barefoot.
- (Naruto the Movie: Road to Ninja) Does Not Like Shoes: Sakura is apparently really eager to ditch her shoes when she's at home, so much that she never sets them neatly by the entrance to her house when she takes them off. Her mother complains about this in front of a crowd, embarrassing her daughter. Once Sakura learns she has a place to herself in the alternate universe and remembers her mother nagging her, she gleefully kicks her boots off and leaves them where they fall, then cheerfully runs into her empty house barefooted.
- (Characters.PHD Does Not Like Shoes: As the hippie-esque Soapbox Sadie of the comic, she originally wore sandals, but switched to going totally barefoot once Art Evolution set in. Borderline
- (Film.The Birdcage) Does Not Like Shoes: Agador. He claims they "make [him] fall down." And they do, at least once. Borderline
- (Music.Kacey Musgraves) Does Not Like Shoes: She loves being barefoot and exhibits this by doffing her shoes at most if not all of her concerts.
- (Battle Circuit) Does Not Like Shoes:
- Yellow Iris. Similar to Felicia, her feet are too big for shoes and make it uncomfortable to wear.
- The Master Program is also barefoot, but then again he is probably not dressed at all.
- (VideoGame.Ghost Trick) Does Not Like Shoes:
- The Police Chief, of all people. Apparently he has itchy toes.
- The park's guardian, which is more believable since he's a hippie and all...
- (VideoGame.Tak And The Power Of Juju) Does Not Like Shoes: Practically all the characters are barefoot. Completely justified, due to the fact they are indigenous tribespeople.
- (VisualNovel.Yosuga No Sora) Does Not Like Shoes: Sora almost always goes barefoot indoors, removing her socks along with her shoes, because she likes to flex her toes.
- (Characters.Bailey School Kids) Does Not Like Shoes Found commented out
- (Film.Splash) Does Not Like Shoes: Madison, despite acquiring shoes not long after finding Allen. Found commented out
- (VideoGame.Shaq Fu) Does Not Like Shoes: Voodoo.
- (Characters.Fatal Fury 2) Does Not Like Shoes: Mai's footwear in her ninja outfit consists solely of instep guards and tabi socks. This is taken a step further in Fatal Fury 3 and Real Bout Fatal Fury, where she lacks the socks.
- (Film.Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) Does Not Like Shoes: Unlike his brothers, Raphael is barefoot, wearing only some ankle wraps. It fits his theme of being the strongest and most martially minded.
- (WesternAnimation.The New Adventures Of Peter Pan) Does Not Like Shoes: Tinkerbell wears leaves around her ankles, but goes barefoot. Since she's nearly always in the air, she doesn't really need to wear shoes.
- (Characters.Fatal Fury Geese Howard) Does Not Like Shoes: Downplayed. He does wear shoes when he's in a formal suit. He wears tabi when he's in his gi, symbolizing his fascination with Japanese culture. His Nightmare Geese skin has him barefoot.
- (Characters.Log Horizon Log Horizon) Does Not Like Shoes: He can be seen barefoot outside while relaxing from time to time. This carries its own meaning when considering his past life as a paraplegic, as he would be unable to feel anything through his feet back then; having recovered the ability in Elder Tale, it is likely he is relishing on it that way.
- (Literature.Man Eaters Of Zamboula) Does Not Like Shoes: Aside from nude, Zabibi goes through the story in bare feet, presumably because, just like the rest of clothing, she is accustomed to be that way due to her work as a dancer.
- (Characters.Ru Pauls Drag Race) Does Not Like Shoes: The uniform for a pit crew member is just a pair of tight briefs, no shoes allowed!
- (Darthwiki.The Cryptids 1/2) Does Not Like Shoes: Most Bigfoot-type cryptids. Justified because they can't find shoes that fit them.
- (Darthwiki.The Cryptids 2/2) Cannot Wear Shoes: It's not that she doesn't like them but being a Sasquatch, she can't find any in her size.
- (Film.Cube 2 Hypercube) Does Not Like Shoes: Julia, who is barefoot for nearly all the movie. Justified, as wearing dress sandals in her situation is not practical.
- (Film.Purple Sunset) Does Not Like Shoes: Averted. Yang was rescued by Soviet soldiers without shoes so they give him a pair of boots.
- (Psych S 03 E 13 Any Given Friday Night At 10 PM 9 PM Central) Does Not Like Shoes: Vlad didn’t, and the scarring on his feet is what lets Shawn figure out who he was when his severed foot turns up.
- In the Tangled: The Series episode "The Way of the Willow", Rapunzel meets her maternal aunt Willow for the first time and discovers they have many things in common: they both enjoy painting, going on adventures, and running around barefoot.
- Alternatively, multiple candidates will become recurring characters throughout the series, none confirmed as the Joker, but all featuring some of his aliases, like Sonny, Jack, and Joe. All will be affiliated with the Red Hood gang, and the gang itself will act as the main Joker tease.
- What's more, each of these candidates could embody a different incarnation of the Joker. For example: a seemingly (but not in any way) harmless prankster with a mustache, a narcissistic gangster-type and Mad Artist, an energetic martial artist with a crazy hairstyle who complains that his shoes are too tight, a cynical anarchist with messy hair and noticeable scars, a Large Ham who likes to make bad puns and mentions having a girlfriend, I can go on all day.
- (Pantheon.Boss Fights N To Z) Marshal: Fighting-type specialist, Big Ol' Eyebrows, driven by strength, always barefoot, Sleeves Are for Wimps, wandered the planet before being invted to the Elite Four
- (TheProblemWithPenIsland.A To M 1/2) Doe Snot Likes Hoes (Prostitutes are advised to avoid cold-stricken female deer for this reason.)
- (TheProblemWithPenIsland.A To M 2/2) Does Not Like S Hoes (Someone hates prostitutes with names beginning with S.)
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 23rd 2023 at 4:10:47 AM
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I missed that because I don't follow that thread that closely, but if it's been proposed, let's see how it goes before tackling that subpage.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Why were so many examples removed from the video games section? None of them were misuse.
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Feel free to post them here (or link to the page you're talking about), but assuming the cleanup is acting as normal, the examples may not have had enough context to be moved.
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Here's the page's history:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=DoesNotLikeShoes.VideoGames
And one other thing, wouldn't it be easier to just rename the trope to "Does Not Wear Shoes"?
Edited by JStryker47 on Jul 20th 2023 at 11:10:42 AM
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Are you perhaps viewing them under the assumption that Partial Context Examples are correct? OK, going to pick some of the deleted entries at random
- Toriel from Undertale goes barefoot, compared to a lot of other monsters in the game who wear footwear.
- "character is barefoot" zce/misuse
- Of known lore figures, the night elf High Priestess Tyrande Whisperwind and traitorous former Arch-Druid Fandral Staghelm are shown barefoot. Near the end of the Cataclysm expansion, this was averted: Tyrande received a model update changing her from a barefoot priestess in a gown to a Magical Girl Warrior lookalike in a Mini Dress Of Power and high heels.
- "character is barefoot" zce/misuse
- The Kyrians in the Shadowlands mostly wear footwraps that just leave their toes exposed, though some of them wear plate boots. Their archon, Kyrestia, is the only one whose feet are completely bare. The spirit healer could arguably be another barefoot Kyrian, though she's only ever seen when the player dies somewhere outside the Shadowlands, without being in a dungeon or raid.
- "character is barefoot" zce/misuse
- In Final Fantasy XI, the Mithra are barefoot by default. Or technically, they wear insteps that leave their toes and heels bare.
- "character is barefoot" zce/misuse
- The Hunter from Left 4 Dead 2 is completely barefoot at all times.
- "character is barefoot" zce/misuse
- The katta in Trial by Fire wear no shoes, as they are a feline race; who appear to walk digitigrade.
- "character is barefoot by necessity" misuse
- Several characters in the Sacred series, mainly The Inquisitor and the Dwarf in their default attire. In 2 (but not in Underworld) the jungle elves known as Dryads are often barefoot. Even their queen, Dyria, wears heelless, toeless footwear.
- "character is barefoot" zce/misuse
None of them are correct.
If you spot any deletions that were actually good examples of another trope or could be fleshed out to fit Prefers Going Barefoot, feel free to add them.
No. The trope has been renamed Prefers Going Barefoot. It is not for characters who are merely unshod.
Edited by Tabs on Jul 20th 2023 at 11:16:17 AM
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Oh, okay yeah those examples run the whole gamut of not providing any details beyond "does not wear shoes" which is the exact misuse that got this trope canned. We want our tropes to mean something, which is why we didn't just rename the trope and call it a day.
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Schwick
"No. The trope has been renamed Prefers Going Barefoot. It is not for characters who are merely unshod."
You know, can I rethink my stance on this? When I think about it....I'm honestly not really for this anymore because it'll result in a purge that's merely about semantics, when you also have to consider things like context and implication.
A character doesn't HAVE to specify that prefer going barefoot for you, and everyone and their mother, to know they prefer to go barefoot. Our former page image, Antimony from Gunnerkrigg Court, is a perfect example of this. She never says it, never specifies it, yet you KNOW just because of that one, simple image, yet under this new definition, she'd have to be removed.
It.....really, just doesn't make any sense. Not anymore. I'm all for a clean-up - goodness knows some of these really needed it - but now that I see it in action, I really don't think this is the way to go.
Edited by VindictorWes on Jul 21st 2023 at 2:09:17 AM
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It's already too late, unless you have a convincing enough reason to have everyone stop after much of the cleanup has already taken place.
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the Retromancer
Correct, characters don't have to spell out their preference, the examples does. Context and implication are considered in decisions and cleanup, if there's enough of them present.
Regarding the image, I do not know because it could be a one-time thing and she visibly wears shoes initially.
And the majoroty prefered this to be the way to go, so it's in the past now.
Edited by Amonimus on Jul 21st 2023 at 12:23:06 PM
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"A character doesn't HAVE to specify that prefer going barefoot for you, and everyone and their mother, to know they prefer to go barefoot. "
In addition to what WarJay and Amonimus said, this logic doesn't hold up in the face of tropes like Undead Barefooter, Barefoot Loon, Barefoot Captives, Barefoot Poverty where the characters being barefoot doesn't say anything about them actually liking to be barefoot (and in many cases the characters would rather they actually did have shoes but circumstances prevent them from being able to wear them), yet such characters are also shown to be barefoot all of the time. The narrowing of the trope to explicit preferences was the compromise in order to keep this trope. Characters just being barefoot w/ no explicit preference needs to be tied to a specific other trait for it to be meaningful.
Edited by amathieu13 on Jul 21st 2023 at 7:02:26 AM
We are allowed to use Implied Trope like any other. But it has to be really strongly implied. "They don't wear shoes in some scenes" doesn't cut it.
Schwick
Sometimes, you can't really see the effects until after the cleanup. I also thought this was a good idea initially, but now that it's taken place, it's definitely not looking that way.
I'm not asking for a like...re-do or anything. I'm just saying. This really doesn't look to have been like the good idea it initially seemed it would be.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Vindictor Wes, complaining about the course of action that was taken and arguing with the people enacting it is not productive, so please stop so the thread can focus on cleanup.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 21st 2023 at 10:17:25 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
He/Him
Should finish off the examples on Sandbox.Prefers Going Barefoot tomorrow, and the off-page examples of Does Not Like Shoes are below 1500.
~Vindicator Wes, if you feel this strongly about that, I would suggest taking your preferred concept to TLP as a supertrope to this. I would also suggest not being surprised if it doesn't get too much traction there.
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He/Him
Alright I've cleaned out the examples on Sandbox.Prefers Being Barefoot to the best of my judgment. If nothing else needs to be changed with the description, and the examples are good, I think we can swap it in.
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I went ahead with the move. Now the wicks need to be cleaned up; the old name was dismbiguated.
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@VindictorWes: Earlier in this topic, someone proposed to create another split-trope called The One Who Doesnt Wear Shoes, as the opposite of The One Who Wears Shoes. Perhaps this could be the solution?
I disagree. The One Who Wears Shoes is not for any cast where someone wears shoes frequently. It's specific to a cartoon cast of Funny Animals, because the default is to draw such characters as barefoot since animals don't wear shoes. It's meaningful because of the context. The inverse doesn't make much sense. I had to fix the laconic just now because it was misleading, to the surprise of no one. (Though, given the incorrect laconic, I wouldn't be surprised if the trope was being misused. Something to look into at a later date.)
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Also true.
Edited by amathieu13 on Jul 23rd 2023 at 9:50:11 AM
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I mean, it's a TLP question at this rate anyway.
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He/Him
Now in triple digits. Redirects have been redirected, and the characters namespace is down to less than 150.
My troper wall
He/Him
Below 500. Characters is finally done (I think there were close to 2000 wicks from character pages), and the pantheon thread reminded to clean out the rest of the pantheon wicks.
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Just stoic wisdom.
Not a cat
I have a question. Since the new trope is for characters who explicitly state they prefer being barefoot, I noticed that the character River Tam, from Firefly has been removed even though she walked around barefoot on the ship frequently. And while I know River never verbally says she prefers being barefoot, there are a few instances in the series (and in the movie Serenity) where she actually leaves the ship while in bare feet. I was curious if that would count or not.
If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.
Implied Trope. If you think it fits, make sure the entry states clearly the way the trope is implied. The deleted entry,
Crown Description:
This crowner has decided to rewrite Does Not Like Shoes to focus on characters who explicitly dislike wearing shoes and to rename the trope. What should the new name be?
Berrenta already posted about bringing the trope to the NRLEP cleanup a few posts above (heres the NRLEP post
). We can hold off on the sandbox and support crownering the trope (it will probably be put in the next crowner).
Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 19th 2023 at 11:47:06 AM
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