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- Dealt with in the recent manga arc "Turn Back the Pendulum." Yoruichi and Tessai (who is actually Badass) helped him escape execution when a younger Aizen framed him for using captains to perform hollow-transformation experiments. This is also the source of the Vizard. Presumably, they've more or less forgotten about/ forgiven him in the hundred years since.
- Actually, since it was Central 46 that did the banishing it's possible that no one else even knew why he was banished or approved of it.
- And Central 46 could have then decided it was less embarrassing to just sweep the whole thing under the rug than to try to have Urahara retrieved for execution.
- Actually, since it was Central 46 that did the banishing it's possible that no one else even knew why he was banished or approved of it.
...Then the question is, "why isn't he powerful?" Later on in the same chapter containing the secret of the Hogyoku, Aizen states that it "cannot work if that possibility does not already exist within them." Well, unbeknownst to Yammy himself, he had the potential to be the Zeroth but was not given the full power behind it because he cannot possibly be as strong as he desires. Basically, he gets the rank, but none of the power. Aizen would know this, letting him have his fun in order to create a sort of diversion.
Poor Yammy...
- Jossed. The Espada are ranked by their reiatsu level. Yammy reall is the 0th.
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- Aizen's Shikai is so broken that he can fool everybody, including Yoruichi, into thinking that he has a Bankai. When it comes to the Captain exams, Aizen just shows off his "water illusion" bullshit as a Shikai, and then pulls something out of his ass for a Bankai.
- Jossed. We'll never know since his Zanpakuto gone for good now.
- Not Jossed, it's just unconfirmed. Just because his Zanpakuto is gone, that doesn't mean that he's achieved Bankai. The only real way to confirm this of Joss this is if we actually see Aizen's Bankai, and because his Zanpakuto is gone, we'll never know one way or the other.
- Jossed. The Hogyoku is just a thing Aizen and Urahara made prototypes of, before Aizen fused them together. "Heaven" is technically the Soul Society, which has its own King, a separate entity from the Hogyoku.
The only way his power could become more confusing bar making the illusions real (too predictable!) would be to make it impossible to know if you're hitting the real Aizen... or just another victim of his Bankai. Add a couple of flash steps to the mix and you're in for one confusing fight.
- Jossed. We never see what he Bankai does before the Hogyoku removed it.
- Soul Society is really Purgatory, everyone is being purified of their sins. How bad you were in life determines which district you end up in. Seriousy, this one should have been obvious.
- Of course, if this turns out to be true, then it will all be a part of Aizen's master plan.
- Jossed. Ichigo kills Ulqiorra. Still, I sense impressive things in Orihime's future. Or at least there'd fucking better be some impressive things in her future. Kubo, please!! She can reject time! Please, please, please let her do something awesome!!
Of course, unless she dies anticlimactically for a minor enemy. Then, Kenpachi will do the kickage.
- Jossed. Being able to beat Aizen is the main reason Soul Society let Ichigo live.
- Meanwhile, Soifon will be unconscious due to severe blood loss from a bloody nose.
- It'd be funny if Chizuru appeared from nothing, showed to have enormous spiritual power, and defeated Halibel... By molesting her. In public. Cue to Aizen smirking and whispering: "Just. As. Planned."
- Again, she did have super molestation powers in that filler episode...
- Jossed. Damn.
- Again, she did have super molestation powers in that filler episode...
- That idea kinda got shot down a few chapters ago, with the Vizards showing up in the fake Karakura town to try and kill Aizen.
- jossed. The top 4 espada were all vasto lordes
- Nnoitra, Grimmjow, Zommari, Szayel, and Aaroniero are either explicitly or implicitly not Vasto Lorde.
- The biggest evidence for Yammy being a Vasto Lorde is that he is technically the strongest Espada, but there are several strikes against him. One would assume that a Vasto Lorde would always be stronger than Adjuchas, even in his sealed state. Also, in his released he is large and very dinosaur-like, which is a stark contrast to the small, more human Vasto Lordes. Furthermore, he introduced himself as arrancar 10, not the 10th Espada. According to Shawlong, the arrancar's numbers (with the exception of the Espada's numbers, which apparently go from 0-9 rather than 1-10 as we thought at the time he explained this) indicate the order in which they were shinigamified with the Hogyoku, plus 10. Given Aizen's apparent penchant for starting with the number 0, this would make Yammy the first arrancar he created with the Hogyoku, likely at a time when he had no access to Vasto Lorde.
- Ulquiorra had a fairly human release, which could have as easily been interpreted as a bat-winged demon (suggesting a Vasto Lorde) than simply a bat (suggesting an Adjuchas). However, the fact that he's already dead would make it far too anticlimactic if any Vasto Lorde or Vasto Lorde-derived arrancar were to show up and Ichigo had already beaten one of their own.
- Halibel's release could likewise be interpreted as a human with shark attributes (Vasto Lorde) or just a shark (Adjuchas). The case for her being a Vasto Lorde is hurt by her getting owned so badly by Hitsugaya when Vasto Lorde are supposed to be stronger than an average captain (though it could be debated what exactly "average captain" means and what Hitsugaya's power level rates in relation to it) and if she indeed is dead, the same problem arises as with Ulquiorra and his death.
- Turns out, Halibel was completely unharmed by Hitsugaya's ultimate attack.
- Barragan has an extremely non-animalistic release, a big point in favor of being a Vasto Lorde. In this case, it seems to go against his characterization that he wouldn't say something like, "this is the power of a Vasto Lorde," or something to brag on himself. The death problem could also become a factor if Soifon's Bankai did kill him, but we can't really say for sure at this point.
- Barragan came out completely unharmed too.
- Stark is still a bit of a mystery given that we haven't seen his release and we know very little about his history. The only thing I can say is that his mask fragment looks like an animal's jaw bone, which admittedly is tenuous evidence at best.
- Or alternatively, if we are going with the fact that Stark's aspect of Death is Loneliness, Stark has no release at all. He was, amongst all the Espada, born hollow.
- Nope, he has a release. And a pretty unanimalistic one judging by the one spoiler pic I've seen
- Or it could mean that he's the only Vasto Lorde to ever exist and/or serve Aizen, turning his condition into a lonely one.
- Even so, judging from the spoiler picture Stark's release is still animal themed. He's best described as a "wolf-type" in the same way Halibel is a "shark-type".
- Going by current evidence, Barragan is probably the only one we could feasibly describe as Vasto Lorde, but the fact that he's number two makes it pretty diffiult if Stark is actually just a particularly powerful adjuchas.
- It could be that Barragan's release isn't human-like, but ape-like, as most monkeys' skeletal structures are similar enough to the human one to cause some confusion in untrained eyes (or untrained mangakas).
- jossed. Halibel was a VL.
- Or alternatively, if we are going with the fact that Stark's aspect of Death is Loneliness, Stark has no release at all. He was, amongst all the Espada, born hollow.
- Jossed for Tousen. We await Gin's actions.
- Not quite spy...but gloating nonetheless
- Actually, its based on an omake in one of the volumes, can't remember which. Its just a small thing Kubo made to show how he and Keigo met Ichigo and Chad as well as a small veiw of his backstory.
- It's for Volume 12. Episode 228 is based off the between chapters extra story in Volume 26.
- Not quite- she gives a What the Hell, Hero? speech, and then afterwards waxes Deredere about her with Haineko.
- Nope, Kensei's shown he still has his bankai. Chances are Shinji's going to show off his too, seeing as he's about to fight Aizen.
- Already Jossed by Lilynette using this method to wake up Starrk.
- Damn. Totally forgot about that.
- She's a arrancar and part of him at that i doubt a non arrancar would have the same level of success
- Except considering the amount of Western influence over the entire world, Asian countries' integration of English into their public school curriculums, and Kubo's fairly good English, I would say it's pretty unlikely that he doesn't know that Western cultures put the given name first. As an Asian troper currently living in Asia, I'd say even the older generations living out in the middle of rural nowhere with basically no English skills know that Western cultures put the given name first, which gives me no doubt that Kubo knows as well. Not to mention, Harribel is named after "Harry Bell Measures," which doesn't fit the whole Western surname = Arrancar given name.
- Yes it does. Harribel is her surname. Her given name is Tia.
- The only exception would be Szayel, but mainly because of the whole sibling thing, as Ilfort also had the surname.
- Apparently, Starrk's given name is Coyote.
- And Kubo proves a WMG wrong less than a month after it comes out. This settles it, he reads TV Tropes.
- No, they're werewolves. Flying werewolves. $20 says they have lasers too.
- Seems like I wasn't completely wrong. They were, in reality, fragments of Starrk and Lillynette's souls.
- Didn't Ichigo state that Sode no Shirayuki had a different reiatsu than a Shinigami or a Hollow? This can only work if the manifested Zanpakuto are unable to sense reiatsu or Byakuya is somehow changing/concealing his reiatsu without arousing suspicion. Both of these options seem unlikely. While it's almost certain that Byakuya is doing something I'm not sure it's a switch with his Zanpakuto.
- Jossed at the end of Episode 240, when Byakuya is standing with his Zanpakuto.
- Jossed, Tousen's dead.
- Tosen betrays him. Either he pulls a Heel–Face Turn, he is revealed to have been working for SS or the king all along, or he becomes The Starscream. This would actually be a pretty obvious choice, as it has been established that Tosen is the only one who is immune to Kyouka Suigetsu. What makes it unlikely is that a) Aizen is well aware of this, so either he made sure that Tosen would stay on his side, or he has precautions. Anything else would be out of character. And b), this is still a Shonen fighting manga, so the Big Bad has to go down in a fight, preferable with the hero or at least with one of his allies (although this could be averted with Tosen becoming the new Big Bad - then he is the one that has to be defeated.
- Perhaps, when Aizen said that people would be affected by seeing the release, he didn't only meant "see", but maybe he meant "hearing it being unsheated", too. Aizen's too powerful of a villain to be defeated by such a flaw.
- Disproven as Unohana states as long as you don't see it, you are invincible against it
- Perhaps, when Aizen said that people would be affected by seeing the release, he didn't only meant "see", but maybe he meant "hearing it being unsheated", too. Aizen's too powerful of a villain to be defeated by such a flaw.
- Aizen succeeds in getting to the king, who is an Eldritch Abomination that obliterates him with a look. That's what you get for megalomania. If thats the end, same problem as above, and if not, well, than we have an even bigger Game-Breaker to defeat.
- Orihime uses her Reality Warper powers to negate the effect of Kyouka Suigetsu, which enables Ichigo to fight him.
- In a fit of megalomania Aizen does something that makes himself even more powerful, but at the cost of losing his old zanpakutou powers. Then he can be defeated in the oldfashioned way, with My Kung-Fu Is Stronger Than Yours.
- It is revealed that the illusion has a flaw which can be exploited (this one has it's own WMG somewhere above)
- He starts to destroy Karakura Town, which Orihime doesn't have enough energy to restore, and so she goes crazy and in a panic wills away his existence.
- His Bankai gives him an extremely flashy ability, but he loses the ability to create illusions, making him a Clipped-Wing Angel and allowing Ichigo to defeat him.
- Given evidence with Tousen- Just because using hollowfication makes you physically stronger doesn't mean you get to keep the same cool abilities you had as a shinigami.
- As of episode 248 this is wrong. Apparently his master is a guy named Koga Kuchiki who was sealed away by SS by attempting to lead a coup.
- If you know he's Kouga Kuchiki, then you know the leading a coup thing is a load of bull.
- I mentioned this above, but it has since been pretty much Jossed, as the games are not accurate regarding Ukitake's or Kyoraku's powers. Ukitake's powers are actually based on absorbing his opponent's attack and firing back at him, as seen against Starrk.
- As of Chapter 386, looks like Hisagi beat her to it.
- Actually, Isshin does this.
- Jossed. We never see a Hollw Mask from Gin.
- Don't forget Ryou-san, the second best student and best runner in entire Karakura!
- What about Karin? She seems a perfect choice. Possibly Yuzu as well.
- Prison. Aizen and Gin just went to the real Krakura Town instead.
- I can already picture this guy being the spirit of Billy the Kid, or Jesse James. Or better, he could have shot both Lincoln and Kennedy! If he shot two American presidents, what would stop him from killing Yamamoto, or even the King? Dammit, someone needs to write a fanfic about that.
- I would so read that.
- It was in the initial plans and stuff... But I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bow/sword/whatever that shoots arrows, according to other theories in this very same page.
- Or it could be a gun that shoots swords.
- Or a bow that shoots axes.
- Or a gun that shoots dogs with bees in their mouth, so when the dogs bark, the bees fly out and sting you
- Or a gun that shoots shurikens and lightning.
- Or it is A really damn long sword. Jossed.
- Technically, it's still involves a piece of metal travelling to almost 13 kilometers in the fracture of a second, AND leaving behind a highly corrosive compound. That's kinda like a gun that shoots poisoned bullets (there is or at least was such a thing in real life).
- Aizen's nickname may be Evil Superman, but his powers are also Green Lantern's. If anything fails, Mayuri can call Unohana, our Yandere Wonderwoman, and the incredible duo called Captain Grabass and Captain Tuberculosis! If anything fails, he'll probably reveal Arrowpops behind his sleeve, too.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. If he was, then something would've happened once the Hogyoku removed Aizen's powers.
Anyone else under the impression that Ichigo's shimigami powers were misclassified (deliberately maybe)? Ie: his shikai and bankai weren't actually what they were called.
When Ichigo first got his shimigami abilities, he absorbed rukia's reiatsu, and so his initial form was not truly how his base form should have looked like, it was just a manifestation of his shimigami powers with Rukia's spirit pressure. He then had to go back and forge his shigimami powers with his own reiatsu. Though when training with Uruhara it was said that he has already achieved shikai and that his sword was always going to be in shikai. But what if, due to his power his base form simply was just "as powerful" as a shikai rather than being a shikai. But it was just claimed for some reason to be an actual shikai.
The duration that Ichigo can use his bankai is absurd, and in terms of progression of power, it doesn't seem to be that great, it's essenitally comparable to the boost that other shimigami get when they use shikai. The amount of time Ichigo put into obtaining Mugetsu seems genuinely akin to the amount of time other shimigami put into obtaining their bankais. It's a final form, something else comparable to shimigami's bankais. The reason why it could only be used once is possibly because ichigio is truly human, if he were actually a shimigami, perhaps he'd have the durability to use it more like a bankai. At this point in the series it would make no sense for there to be a "third" release or final ("sword/shimigami fusion") ability that no other shimigami would have mentioned, or that only one shimigami has. That's the only reason why I'm questioning the terminology.
- Jossed. Mugetsu is just an ability used when he fuses with his Zanpakuto.
- Seconded. Maybe this is how Orihime goes back to a normal life? Maybe it comes with memory removal?
- Jossed. The Hogyoku is stuck with Aizen and Orihime never had the chance to destroy it.
It’s the only explanation I can think of for why she wasn’t in the fake Karakura Town. Maybe Shunsui was being overprotective of his Nanao-chan again and thought that leaving her behind to guard the real Karakura Town would be a less dangerous assignment.
- Jossed. She never appeared in either Karakura Towns.
Think about it. Ichigo's power levels have been going up and down; one minute he's beating Soul Society Captains, the next he's getting his ass handed to him by Espada who could be beaten by said Captains. And now he's expected to somehow take down Captain Broken himself. So what gives?
It's because Ichigo's strength derives from the emotional support he receives from those close to him. Ever since Orihime was kidnapped, he's been bummed out. Rescuing her was supposed to fix that, but none of it went according to plan, and now he feels even worse. Going to help the Captains in Fake Karakura Town shot his confidence to hell when he saw all of these heavy-hitters being torn apart and Aizen steamrolling over everyone Ichigo has ever trained under or looked up to.
And yet, just recently, Don Kanonji stood his ground against Aizen. Don freaking Kanonji. How could this buffoon do what almost anyone posing a threat to Aizen could not? Because he had confidence and self-assurance. Ichigo's been lacking that for a long time now, and this troper thinks that being reminded of why he fights, to protect his friends and family, will be just the kick-start he needs to be The Hero again and stand up to Aizen.
- I think it would only work if Aizen kidnapped all of his friends. Then his mind would kick into MUST SAVE True Companions mode as it did in the Soul Society and Hueco Mundo arcs, only even more since now there's more friends to save. He would powerup into a ball of pure energy and eat Aizen alive.
- Jossed. He defeated Aizen on his own, several kilometers away from the town, without his friends cheering him on.
- Jossed. Aizen was an Anticlimax Boss, defeated by Ichigo and sealed by Urahara, who showed up to explain that he sealed Aizen.
- Jossed. Chad's been turned against Ichigo, who's back as a Shinigami. No fighting yet, but no overly-cute enemy either.
Ichigo is the King's Key.
Think about it. In Soul Society, the Soukyoku was said to have the power of one million zanpakutou, yet Ichigo blocked it with one. If we go by the soul count of each zanpakutou, that's one million souls. And this was before Ichigo fought Byakuya, underwent Hollow training, and even knew that Aizen was a threat. Besides, who ever said that the Key was composed of only one hundred thousand souls?
But Aizen already knew this. Surely he heard about Ichigo's little run-in with the Soukyoku, and got curious. It's possible that he had no idea that the little Ryoka that he crushed effortlessly was the one object that he was looking for (that, or he was bluffing). And way, way back at the start of the Hueco Mundo arc, when Ichigo and the others entered Hueco Mundo, he could have detected the Key's reiatsu within Ichigo's own. At this point, having lured Ichigo into Hueco Mundo with Orihime as bait, Aizen just had to sit back and watch while things unfolded on their own and Ichigo grew even more ridiculously powerful than he already was.
Add all of this to Urahara's faith in Ichigo's ability (he and Aizen are basically dueling against one another, with Ichigo as the experiment of both), Isshin's unknown background (for all we know, he could be the King himself), and Aizen's analysis of Ichigo's reiatsu in the most recent chapter (to confirm that all was according to plan), and you have the perfect storm of exposition.
Now that Aizen has Ichigo right where he wants him, he can reveal all this to him, creating another ludicrous reveal, surprising all of Bleach's readers, and launching his attack on the now-vulnerable fourth wall, as detailed above.
- Problem: If you look at Ichigo during the scenes when he's repelling the Soukyoku he's wearing an odd cape with large clasp on it. It looks very similar to the Shihouin family symbol. Soi Fon later confirms that it is when confronting Shihouin Yourichi about why she's assiting Ichigo. Ichigo repelling the Soukyoku is not that impressive.
- Yeah... but then Yoruichi confirms on that same page that flight was necessary for saving Rukia. The cloak only helped Ichigo get to the top of the Soukyoku. And Yoruichi never said that the cloak stopped the Soukyoku, if that's what you're trying to say.
- True. But that's not my point. The Soukyoku was destroyed by a relic of the Shihouin family, which Yourichi is a part of. These are facts, substantiated by the manga. It is also a fact that Ichigo was wearing the crest of the selfsame family when he repelled the Soukyoku. The simplest explanation (In following with the principal of Occam's Razor) is that the crest repelled the Soukyoku rather than Ichigo, otherwise you have to start creating thousands of smaller theories about why Ichigo, who is stronger than 1,000,000 soul cutters, ever lost to anyone at all. Especially considering what Ishida said way back in Chapter 49 (and the next two pages).
- Yeah... but then Yoruichi confirms on that same page that flight was necessary for saving Rukia. The cloak only helped Ichigo get to the top of the Soukyoku. And Yoruichi never said that the cloak stopped the Soukyoku, if that's what you're trying to say.
- Ultimately Jossed from the above post.
So the King is this great and terrible Cosmic Horror and the Royal Guard are former Captains tasked with making sure it doesn't get out. But even more secret than their existance is how they opperate; by being placed in an involuntary stasis so that their massive Captain-level souls can power the seal. Nobody is aware of this until after their "promotion", and by then it's already too late.
...except that one escaped. Aizen Sousuke, who likely went by another name at the time, managed to escape his fate as a living seal and flee the King's realm. Infuriated by what he had witnessed, he vowed to end this atrocious tradition even if it meant bringing Seireitei to its knees to do it. He trained in both body and mind during his period of seclusion, meanwhile dabbling in research concerning the very makeup of Hollows and Shinigami in the hopes of finding any edge over his new adversaries. He eventually slipped back into Soul Society after much time had passed, with a change of name and likely appearance.
Though he walks a dark path his ultimate goal is merely to free his fellow Shinigami, no matter what the cost.
I can see it now.
Aizen reveals some sort of jacked up convoluted plot to become god, or create one conciseness, or dress up all of Soul Society as poodles.
Ichigo looks about ten seconds away from slashing his wrists.
But instead of wangsting like a tosser and letting it happen.
Ichigo gives a World of Cardboard Speech to put Kamina to shame.
Then suddenly "What the fuck makes you think you'll be doing it alone ya bastard." and Kenpachi, Grimmkitty, Gentenbainne and Byakuya all come out of a Garganta. Urahara, Ryuuken, Yoruichi, Isshin and Tessai all flash step in like "sorry we took so long" and then Ichigo goes into his Reserection.
And not just any Reserection, that one with the Leather Pimp Longcoat, Chainsaw Zangetsu, Magic Flying Motorcycle and Biker-Chick Rukia and Orihime from the last page.
And then Aizen would shit bricks.
- MUST HAPPEN!
- Didn't happen.
Ok. A popular fan theory is thus: Aizen killed the Espada/ let them die for there several hundred thousand souls. Canon states that he'll get the souls from Karakura.Wrong. He needs BOTH batches of several hundred thousand souls.The Espada are to create the Ouken. Sure. But it's been stated that Aizen wants to create "perfect beings." It has also been stated that Kurosaki Ichigo has "abnormally high reiatsu."The captains are wrong. It's not Ichigo that has the reiatsu. It's HICHIGO. HICHIGO was the one who owned Uliquorra. Aizen has recognized this since the very first time he met Ichigo. He might have done some background research, and figured out how Ichigo got his powers.Now, it's been stated that Karakura is the most reiryoku-enriched place on earth. As such, every single one of its citizens are exposed to this reiatsu daily. So what does Aizen do with every single one of Karakura's citizens?He replicates Urahara's shattered shaft hundreds and thousands of times and throws EVERY SINGLE ONE of Karakura's inhabitants in one. He waits. Somebody's BOUND to develop a hollow in an Ichigo-similar way, and then Aizen has his army.
- Jossed. Aizen never created the Ouken throughout his time in the real town. All he ever wanted was to find an equal, which he found (and more) in Ichigo.
- Jossed. It's Rukia.
Tsukishima's power is based off his bookmark, which Ginjo tells Ichigo allows Tsukishima to insert himself into someone's memories. But a bookmark doesn't change a story, it just lets you recall your place in it later. As in restoring lost or sealed, yet still real, memories. On the other hand, Ginjo's Fullbring comes from his X pendant and is called a Cross. And crosses and the letter X have a history and connotation of sealing things. What if Ginjo sealed everyone's memories of Tsukishima, and Tsukishima has just recently mastered his fullbring enough to break the seal?
- Tsukishima seems Affably Evil, but he could just as easily be a real, nice guy.
- Ginjo does a bit too well at playing the cliched villain in chapter 451.
- Aaaaand now....yeah, I think with Chapter 456 we can be certain Ginjo isn't the bad guy.
- They both can still be the bad guy(s). Just not on the same side. Remember, someone from Soul Society (my manga source removed the chapter) tried warning Ichigo to not be an idiot just when he was hanging around Ginjo.
- Note that it is still possible to consider Tsukishima a "good guy". Ginjo was already stalking Ichigo. He already knew where Ichigo worked, for one. It would be a gutsy move, but Kubo could make it so all of Bleach we've seen so far was an altered memory. Ginjo changed everyone's memories to get Ichigo on his side. Tsukishima is just restoring things to the proper place. He is just facing down an angry, homocidal, powered up Ichigo and is forced to see him as an enemy until his memories are restored. Plus, look at Ichigo's friends. Many of them are rivals beaten into joining him. If Tsukishima was the same his "affably evil" might just be him enjoying this opportunity to knock Ichigo around a bit like old times.
- Jossed. Ginjo is an enemy, but he's been in cahoots with Tsukishima from the start.
- Jossed. He lost them before he ever used a wakizashi.
Real Espada Levels: 1-Barragan, 2-Ulquiorra (Killed Ichigo TWICE), 3-Wonderwyce (Beat Captain Kensei & Captain Tuberculosis w/one hit!) 4-Nnoitra (slashed several times in chest by KENPACHI but kept fighting), 5-Grimmjow (Survived multiple Vaizard Bankai hits while able to continue high level aggression against & wound main character), 6-Starrk (Wounded 3 Captains), 7-Yammi (beat 3 Lieutenant Class, Rukia, Renji, Chad, Massive Atack Power & Durabilty/Regeneration) 8-Zommari (he DID survive a hit from Gokei Senbon Zakura, plus his Amor was broken), 9-Szayel (Killed by Bankai, then sealed Zanpakuto, but his Voodoo Doll & Gabriel, brr!) 10-Harribel (no special ability, no aggression, no hits on even lieutenant class shinigami, Hitsu GA Ya just feared her Tattooed Marshmallow Hell) 11-Luppi (actually out fought multiple Lieutenants & made a Captain bleed, might actually outrank Harribel) 12-Arronierro (killed in single hit by severely wounded Lieutenant) The Privaron espada, except Dordoni, were a sad joke. Why were they Espada at any point anyway? At best they were Lieutenant class.
No way Harribel was ever a Vasto Lorde (unless there was GROSS inbalence in power between males & females!) Ulquiorra was without a doubt (Silhouette!), Barragan quite likely, same w/ Wonderwyce (Only Captain Genocide could handle him) nnoitra might be the pinnacle of adjuchas evolution, grimmjow might be at the point where Vasto begins, Starrk might hasve been one once, but after splitting, never regained his former power, a bit like Nel.
Too bad we didn't get to see what happened in Las Noches after Yammi 'died' & before Mayuri took over. The Hollows as a plot device are finished.
- Point on what Starrk did to Rose and Love. He offered to let them leave, and only when they did not back down did he intend to actually aim to kill them ('finishing move' or the like was said). We don't get to see that killing attempt because Kyoraku's shadows got in the way. He also got lucky shooting Kyoraku, who was distracted by Wonderweiss's similar chance attack on Ukitake. Starrk was opportunistic and reluctant to kill (but like Shunsui, only to an extent). In the case of one-shotting Ukitake, Wonderweiss was certainly opportunistic, having the element of surprise (plus, he's apparently a child, which is ironically significant given the two captains' reaction to Lilynette). The 'power' of each had little to do with it.
- Jossed. Word of God says that the Espada are ranked based on reiatsu levels. Yammy being the "strongest" one just means he has more spiritual pressure than any of the others, it has nothing to do with actual abilities. Although that's just as absurd as ranking martial artists based on who can bench press more.
- That being so, then Starrk's tendency to inadvertently kill Hollows weaker than him in his attempt to find friends would indicate his reiatsu was high enough for him to warrant the '1' position. Turned out to be irrelevant, to the extent that perhaps Aizen used it as a justification for the look of the thing, because it ostensibly give his army a neat structure (in practice I gather there was lots of in-fighting)? In that, Aizen putting Starrk at the top made sense because he had no interest in fighting against either those 'below' him or his boss, because he considered them True Companions.
- Jossed. They're not superhumans; they just have remnants of Hollow energy within them, since their mothers were attacked by Hollows.
- Aizen isn't a Heartless; he's Xemnas.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal now, throwing all of the below and related guesses out of the window.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal now.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal now
- Jossed. His Shinigami powers are back.
- {{Jossed}. It's stuck with Aizen.
- I agree with you. No one ever said that just because Ichigo will lose his Shinigami powers if he uses the final Getsuga doesn't mean he can't retain his Hollow abilities.
- Hollow Ichigo has flat out stated that he and Zangetsu are two sides of the same coin. Zangetsu vanished when Hollow Ichigo first took control, and the two of them were fused when Ichigo learned the Final Getsuga Tensho. Everything is pointed toward a total power wipe.
- Yes that is true, but Isshin must have retained some power to later revitalize. This means that it cannot be a "total power wipe". It is still entirely possible that he could retain his hollow side, since when he was losing his power he said that he could feel his shinigami powers leaving, not his spirit powers. But on the same token it could very well go the other direction. However the story demands.
- "Total power wipe" in the sense that everything goes, both Shinigami and Hollow. It's obviously not permanent, as you pointed out with Isshin. (Besides, it's shounen. There's no such thing as a permanent de-power for the hero.) What's more, given Ichigo losing any semblance of spiritual awareness, the latest chapter seems to be telling us that he lost it all, both Shinigami and Hollow. He can't feel any pressure anymore.
- Yes that is true, but Isshin must have retained some power to later revitalize. This means that it cannot be a "total power wipe". It is still entirely possible that he could retain his hollow side, since when he was losing his power he said that he could feel his shinigami powers leaving, not his spirit powers. But on the same token it could very well go the other direction. However the story demands.
- Dammit, beat me to it. Great Minds, huh?
- Jossed. His Shinigami powers were restored first.
- Starrk: Very powerful Vasto Lorde.Baraggan: Powerful Adjuchas.Harribel: Average Vasto Lorde.Ulquiorra, Nnoitra, Grimmjow, Zommari and Szayelaporro: Powerful-to-average Adjuchas.Aaroniero: Powerful Gillian.Yammy: Average-to-powerful Adjuchas.
- I thought the description of a Vasto Lorde was a NON-arrancar that looked human.
- Yes it is. But what I said was that the Resurrección of an Arrancar!Vasto Lorde looks human.
- Ulquiorra was a Vasto Lorde. When the concept of Vasto Lorde was explained the first time you could see the shadow/shape of one. Guess like whose resurrección number 2 it looked like?
- Yeah... only reason I put Ulquiorra as an Adjuchas was because he didn't fit into the "Vasto Lorde!Resurrección looks like cosplayer" theme of the WMG. Segunda Etapa simply doesn't, and his regular Resurrección has his horned helmet. Plus it was never officially stated that Ulquiorra was a Vasto Lorde. Like Bleach wiki states, only Harribel has been confirmed to have been a Vasto Lorde (also, Grimmjow was an Adjuchas and Aaroniero was a Gillian).
- Jossed. Unmasked confirmed that most of the Espada were Vasto Lorde.
- Jossed. It only freaked him out.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal.
- The Hougyoku has the power to effectively grant wishes.
- It grants wishes to multiple people, not just it's owner.
- It remembered that it's owner was Aizen as of 415. Theoretically, it would remember everyone.
- It has been exposed to the most of the cast in bleach.
- It is linked to Aizen, currently, who is incredibly powerful.
So what happens? Someone wishes everyone back. Next to the Hougyoku.
And so the Hougyoku, quite literally, revives everyone. Guess whos Reisatsu is the power source for all this?
- An alternate theory in the same vein would be having someone scream that they don't believe in fairies. Conflict stops right there.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal.
- So, how does he do his nifty [[spolier: regeneration]]?
- He already received that power. It is now a part of his arsenal, continued contact with the hogyoko is unnecessary.
- It's hidden in Hell. Those Hell Gates at the beginning can't have been shown just for fun; they're a Chekhov's Gun and this new realm is going to come into play. After all, Shinji and several other as-yet unrevealed characters show up in the title page for the very first chapter. Everything has been planned. Those gates are going to be important.
- Hell arc, maybe?
- If the hogyoko was hidden in hell, wouldn't it be manifesting the will of hell's inhabitants?
- Aizen's creating a demon army!!1!11!!1! =D
- Hell arc, maybe?
- Jossed. Aizen and Urahara made separate Hogyoku prototypes. Aizen fused them together.
- He sincerely wishes to be a hero, and no human could possibly survive touching Aizen. The solution is to make him something beyond human!
- Jossed. He never did.
- Jossed. He wanted to find someone equal to his power level, according to ichigo.
- Jossed. He only wanted to get Rangiku's reiatsu particles back from the Hogyoku.
- And framed Gin using his illusion powers. (I can't remember if Ichigo saw the attack). Alternately, Hiyori once bumped into baby Matsumoto and didn't apologize.
- No, I don't think Ichigo was shown to have seen that attack, at least, not in the manga, so it's entirely possible. However, I still think Gin was responsible, because he doesn't need to be a nice guy to have tried to kill Aizen to avenge Rangiku.
- Actually, I'm pretty positive that Ichigo was not present when that occured. I vividly remember Shinji screaming for him to return.
- Jossed. Hiyori's still alive.
- Just putting it out there. And providing an alternate theory to why the front of her yukata was loosened when we saw her in chapter 415, though I do fear that that wasn't all of it. And it would explain what the Hougyoku was doing in that flashback.
- Jossed. He had his goon steal parts of peoples' souls to feed to the Hogyoku.
- In doing so, he will gain yet another power boost, and possibly Gin's shikai and bankai abilities.
- And thus Gin will pull a Kimblee.
- Jossed. He only planned to bring Gin along because he was curious over when and how Gin would attempt to kill him.
He'll finally set Orihime to the breaking point, after seeing that nearly EVERYONE is dead, she's finally gonna lose it. Travel to the human world, despite Ichigo and Co.'s pleas, she will confront Aizen on her own. Aizen will obviously think this is just Orihime being stupid; until he finds himself Out Gambitted by Orihime.
All I can say are two words. Everyone, say it with me! I...REJECT! And thus, Aizen will cease to exist. The Hogokyou will cease to exist. The world will be back to normal. ...Until a new villian comes around.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal.
- Jossed. He lost his powers and he's been imprisoned.
- Jossed. He returned to the Soul Society after he helped Byakuya beat Yammy, while Ichigo defeated Aizen.
The whole idea of the Hogyoku was implanted into Uruhara's mind by demons under the orders of Lucifer as part of some ultra convoluted plot to get a shinigami to become evil enough to be inducted as a member of Hell's legions. Aizen was the shinigami that took the bait, but his plans coming to fruition with the level of detail and sheer amount of blood spilled and lives ruined exceeded the expectations of many of the generals of Hell. In the end, however, once Aizen's in Hell he'll be reduced to being Satan's little bitch, the Hogyoku being merely a Red Herring rather than a MacGuffin, and Aizen is just the final puzzle piece need to complete his army of the Damned to march straight into Heaven.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal now, thanks to the Hogyoku.
As Ichigo is about to finish him off, Aizen will use Kyouka Suigetsu to try to escape. However, thanks to his own transformation, his reiatsu is so incredibly high that he can't hide it anymore, making his illusion powers worthless to anyone who can sense spirit pressure.
- Jossed. ichigo beat him, Urahara sealed him and the Hogyoku took away Aizen's powers.
- Jossed. He's immortal thanks to the Hogyoku.
- Jossed. If the anime and power level guidebook are to be believed, at least Tia to Starrk were Vasto Lorde already. This would make Base Aizen/Yama/Current Ichigo stronger than most Vasto Lorde.
- Jossed. Fullbringers got their powers from reiatsu remnants from Hollows that attacked their mothers.
- Jossed. Aizen lost his powers because of the Hogyoku.
- {Jossed}}. Ichigo really did defeat Aizen, but Urahara sealed Aizen away.
- Jossed. It's on 460 right now.
- Actually, he already did that the first time he trained with Urahara.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal.
- Of course there is. Reject his having used the Final Getsuga Tensho.
- Jossed. Rukia, Renji, Byakuya, Isshin, Kosuke, Hitsugaya, Kenpachi and Ikkaku did it.
- Jossed Two more arcs are on the way, with the current already in the midpoint.
- Jossed. Aizen and Urahara created their own versions of the Hogyoku, before Aizen fused them both.
- CARD GAMES ON HUECO MUNDO!
- And Shunsui will host the game!
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal now.
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal now
- Jossed. Aizen's immortal now
- Jossed. They're back now.
- Jossed. He's still missing in action thus far.
- Okay, you got the Wolf, you got the Ram, where's the
HartHEART? Oh, never mind. I answered my own question. - Jossed. Harribel and her fraccion all survived. Starrk and Lilynette are dead. Nel's unconfirmed.
- Okay, you got the Wolf, you got the Ram, where's the
- Jossed. Rukia gave back Ichigo's powers, with help from Isshin, Renji, Byakuya, Ikkaku, Kenpachi and Hitsugaya.
- Jossed as of chapter 426, his boss is a woman named Unagiya.
- It's also possible that Kubo-sensei decided to bring in some stuff from the filler arcs and these guys are Bounts that didn't join up with Kariya Jin.
- For that matter, they could even be Mod Souls in gigais!
- Jossed. They're a new race, called Fullbringers.
- Well, if you look here, he does appear to be wearing a Quincy Cross. And he obviously has some connection to the spiritual world. And it would be kind of funny, what with Ishida constantly procaliming to be the 'Last Quincy' in the early volumes of Bleach.
- Jossed. He's a Fullbringer.
- Don't you see how much alike they look? Maybe this is a zig-zagged Show Within a Show.
- Jossed.
- Seemingly Jossed; Chad's armor is basically him using Fullbring on his own skin, which he can only do because he's particularly proud of his dark skin.
- Still doesn't explain why Kuugo had a substitute soul reaper badge. And no, he didn't steal Ichigo's because a) Ichigo still has his, and b) Ichigo's badge is covered in cracks and scrapes and has no chain, whereas Kuugo's has a chain and looks brand new.
- Jossed. Turns out the badge belonged to the first Shinigami Representative Xcution approached, who was killed by Tsukishima.
- Jossed. He shares it with Ginjo.
There has to be more to it than a swastika made of rieatsu he should probaly be able to make it into different shapes like a BFS, Axe, Hammer, Flail, Scythe etc.
- Jossed. Only used that katana-like sword, and he's lost his Fullbring for good now.
In addition to my previous WMG above, I believe that both Vizard and Arrancar can use their own version of the Final Getsuga Tensho or at least something similar. Since Ichigo had to fight Hollow Zangetsu in order to learn it, I believe that the release that the Final Getsuga is a result of fully mastering ones inner power, both ration and instinct, and reaching the epitome of growth.
- Jossed. It involves merging with ones' Zanpakuto. No formal training.
- The final level will probably be where his fullbring merges with the remnants of his shinigami powers. Ginjo said this fusion would give him a power transcending the shinigami, and that's exactly what Ichigo had before using Mugetsu.
- Jossed. Ginjo took them away from Ichigo before he could evolve further.
- Jossed. We never heard its name before Ginjo removed them from Ichigo.
- He was on meth. Hey his face looked all screwedup like real meth adicts and the hollow looks like the type to hook hot young men on its new batch it makes in a hotel bathroom.
- No, he wasn't on anything at all! He just really liked orange sunglasses. Glasses, actually. He had a pair in his pocket and put them on right after he killed the hollow (his back was turned to Rukia, Ukitake, and the camera, remember?). His crazy laughter and taunting of Rukia and Ukitake were just for the lulz. However, he realized that his glasses could never be as cool as Kamina's, so he threw himself on Rukia's sword.
- Jossed. Aaroniero absorbed the Hollow that possessed him and claimed Kaien's powers for his own.
- AwesomeCaptain Evil Superman: "Surely you did not think that you were a match for my pow-"Captain Dio: "Time stands still. ZA WARUDO!" * Sword shatters and the shards freeze in the air just before hitting the ground.*Captain Asspull: "Ffffffffffffffffffffffff-" * time stops*Captain Dio: "Time has stopped."Captain Xanatos: * crushed under a steamroller* "-uck."
- That's assuming he didn't magically learn Orihime's ability, which he took great pains to point out as more powerful than time manipulation. Seriously it's like they try to foreshadow a way out of every conceivable situation for this guy.
- Ichigo defeated Aizen.
- Alternatively, this will collapse him into a reiatsu black hole. The captains will then have to escape Hueco Mundo before they are engulfed.
- Jossed. It was a Battle Discretion Shot and Yammy got Dropped A Brige On Him.
- This would not surprise me in the least. It's something about that face that makes me think "Wow is he trying to look evil."
- Jossed. He was in it for himself, which is to say, to get Rangiku's soul particles back from the Hogyoku.
- To some extent, all of this is involved in the FMA plot anyway. Father's machinations involve taking in entire nations' worth of souls to make himself into an increasingly powerful living Philosopher's Stone to the point of taking over the power and place of God. In essence, Aizen and Father are among two anime Big Bads whose similarities are most underrated, because they are both major league deceivers with similar Satan-esque goals.
- Jossed. He only ever wanted to find an equal in the same power level as he was in.
- He locked himself out. Why he doesn't tell anyone and instead acts as if he is a Big Bad and plans to kill hundreds of thousands of people? Being a king and locking yourself out of your palace is really embarrassing.
- Jossed. Aizen saw the real Spirit King. He hates it.
- Jossed. Ichigo never hated Aizen enough to kill him, and Aizen himself was made immortal because of the Hogyoku.
- Jossed. It's stuck with Aizen.
- Jossed. Aizen only ever talked about Ichigo's lack of personal motivation to fight him, along with Ichigo's evolution from a human to a Shinigami, to a Physical God.
- Jossed. The Hogyoku made him immortal.
- Jossed. The Hogyoku turned on Aizen and got rid of his powers, partly because the Hogyoku no longer saw Aizen as a worthy master.
- Jossed. The Hogyoku decided to turn on Aizen because he failed to be a worthy master.
- Jossed. Ichigo (mostly) silently defeated Aizen's last two forms, while Urahara sealed Aizen, but the Hogyoku got fed up and removed Aizen's powers, mostly because it didn't recognize him as its master, and partly because Aizen subconsciously wanted to lose.
- Jossed. Aizen is immortal, thanks to the Hogyoku.
- Jossed. Aizen lost his Zanpakuto because of the Hogyoku.
- Jossed. He has poison as his Bankai's best ability, but he never made blade-storms, porcupines or blade-thornes, nor did he ever curve the blades themselves.
- Jossed. Ichigo didn't use Resurreccion; he used Jinzen to communicate and merge with Zangetsu (natural Shinigami evolution), while Aizen's last transformation was the most Hollow-looking of all four (artificial and forced Hollow-like One-Winged Angel). Quite ironic, really.
- Jossed. Gin never used a Hollow mask at all, from his fight with Ichigo to his betrayal of Aizen.
- This. Sooooo This.
- Jossed. Urahara planted a Kido seal within Aizen during their fight. Ichigo pushed Aizen to his limit in their fight, which allowed the seal time to work properly. In fact, the Hogyoku turned on Aizen and removed his powers right after the sealing began, because Aizen ironically failed to be a good master to it.
- Jossed. Before Aizen killed him, Gin's only on-screen fights were against Hitsugaya and Ichigo.
- Jossed. Gin died before Rangiku or Izuru, and those two are still alive at this point.
- Jossed. Unmasked revealed that Aizen was naturally powerful, and Kyoka Suigetsu is his repressed feelings of loneliness from it.
- Jossed. He never wanted to help Aizen - he joined because he wanted to kill Aizen.
- Jossed. Yammy is dead, but Grimmjow's fate is unconfirmed and Harribel survived.
- Sorry, but she likes Nell too much to have enough resolve for this.
- Ultimately Jossed. Ichigo and Kisuke dealt with Aizen.
- Kinda like Tarantulas from Beast Wars. Only less crazy and more enigmatic.
- Jossed. Gin was never a double agent; he just wanted to get part of Rangiku's soul back and kill Aizen for it.
- Jossed. Harribel survived, according to Unmasked.
- Jossed. Aizen only brought Gin up because he was interested in seeing if Gin would kill him or not, and he bought into Gin's lies about his Bankai's abilities.
- Except Aizen already murdered 46 people back in the Soul Society Arc, and unless they're written off as a bunch of corrupt and incompetent bureaucrats that no one really gives a shit about, it's highly unlikely he'll get off lightly in the end just by surrendering.
- Jossed. He was defeated fair-and-square in a straight-up fight between himself and Ichigo. Upon his defeat, all he ever said was that he found it comical that the Central 46 would pass judgement on him. They responded by adding 2000 more years to his already-high (18,000) sentence.
- Instead, it will actually turn out that Zaraki's Bankai is Alucard. This will end the series.
- Jossed. The series continued even after Aizen's defeat, and Aizen himself was defeated by Ichigo.
- Jossed. Nestle to Night revealed that Orihime healed Harribel, Apacci, Sung-Sun and Mila-Rose just after Ichigo collapsed in front of his friends, but they're roaming around Hueco Mundo on their own, and Starrk is confirmed deceased in the Unmaksed databook.
- Reason 1: Look at him. Anyone who appears that pointlessly evil can't be ''actually'' evil. That would be anticlimactic.
- Reason 2: Soul Society knows an awful lot about Aizen's plans and movements for people in another universe entirely.
- Reason 3: For his sinister reputation, what has he actually done on screen? Driving Ichigo away after he tried to walk brazenly through the front door of Soul Society? Taunting Rukia until she recovered her desire to live? Immobilising Ichigo's friends when they picked a fight with Aizen...? Hang on, these aren't evil at all!
- Uhh...he just vivisected Hiyori with that same grin on his face. How's that for on screen evil? Still a fair track record better than Mayuri but still... he cut her in HALF!!!
- Considering the idea that he's in contact with SS, it's not too far fetched to believe that he knew who was heading towards that particular time (am I the only one who finds Unohana heading back at that exact time to be a little convenient?), and wanted to affirm his evilness to Aizen, after all, it would be a little strange if Gin didn't hurt ANY of the resistance at that point in time.
- Uhh...he just vivisected Hiyori with that same grin on his face. How's that for on screen evil? Still a fair track record better than Mayuri but still... he cut her in HALF!!!
- Reason 4: The author loves setting a character up as irredeemably evil right until five seconds after the hero beats them.
- Reason 5: Unlike Severus Snape, the girl he loves is still "alive", which gives him even more of a reason to be on/go to the good (or at least non Well-Intentioned Extremist) side.
- So does that mean the author is going to pull a Uchiha Itachi on us.
- Reason 6: Even the makers of the anime seem to have a hard time remembering he's supposed to be evil. Observe his recent wacky omake hijinks, lecturing the audience on the workings of Hueco Mundo.
- Problem: the manga recently showed that Gin had killed another Shinigami while he was apparently still in academy, so I guess Tite's remembered he's a villain after all (or is he? Naruto is making me question everything).
- Solution: Gin really was evil back then, but made a Heel–Face Turn later, and for obvious reasons isn't letting Aizen know. Alternately, Gin could just be doing it for the lulz, not caring about "good" and "evil".
- Again, it's possibly done to gain the trust of Aizen, because Aizen only took interest in him after that, it's cruel, but still sorta along the line of the end justifies the means.
- Problem 2: Kurotsuchi Mayuri also has his wacky omake hijinks...
- and Kurotsuchi is considered the Token Evil Teammate of the group, coincidence? I think not! But I don't really think it's really a proof of anything, but still...
- If you ask me, breaking Rukia's spirit by giving hope and quickly taking it away seems pretty evil to me. But yeah Gin killed the 3rd seat of 5th squad and it was only after this that Aizen took interest in him.
- Problem: the manga recently showed that Gin had killed another Shinigami while he was apparently still in academy, so I guess Tite's remembered he's a villain after all (or is he? Naruto is making me question everything).
- Reason 7: The Shinigami are, at least superficially, inspired by the Shinsengumi. Their 3rd, 5th, and 9th division captains, respectively: Saitou Hajime, Takeda Kanryuusai, and Suzuki Mikisaburo. Now, obviously the Gotei 13 captains aren't 1:1 expys of the Shinsengumi, but the parallel is intriguing.
- Now I fully admit that my sole knowledge of the Shinsengumi comes from Rurouni Kenshin. But the dichotomy between that version of Saitoh- incredibly badass, unflappable, and completely dedicated to justice, has at best minor connections with Ichimaru- the "thrust" of the sword- Gaoutsu and Shinsou, and the unflappableness. Other than that, they've got literally nothing in common.
- Thing is - real historical Saito once leaved Shinsengumi under one of other officers... when that officer became a threat he got in to sudden trap and was killed - and after that Saito returned in Shinsengumi.
- Au contraire, mon frere! They both have squinty eyes!
- The Peacemaker Kurogane version of Saitou is also quite a bit more ambiguous, or at least a very, very good actor.
- Now I fully admit that my sole knowledge of the Shinsengumi comes from Rurouni Kenshin. But the dichotomy between that version of Saitoh- incredibly badass, unflappable, and completely dedicated to justice, has at best minor connections with Ichimaru- the "thrust" of the sword- Gaoutsu and Shinsou, and the unflappableness. Other than that, they've got literally nothing in common.
- However, there's this picture, which shows Tousen and Aizen eagerly jumping into battle with Ichigo while Gin is chilling waaay in back. Given what just happened to Tousen and the Japanese idea that the person who fights and is seen the least is the most important, it looks like Gin could become the Big Bad.
- Gin seems to not really want to help Aizen. He just kind of sits there, while Aizen fights alone. Not to mention he rearranged the passageways in Hueco Mundo so that the Ichigo and Co. ended up fighting and killing all of the strongest arrancar they had.
- Moved to the main WMG page to say CONFIRMED
- Not necessarily. He may be making a grab for power to try and become Shinigami King himself.
- Or he's just screwing Aizen over for the heck of it- or what he wants isn't actually to become Shinigami King.
- That's a complicated one. He was planning on killing Aizen since he was a kid in SS right after seing Aizen for the first time and realizing that "he is THEIR leader" "they" could mean the Arrancar? Also he stated something around the lines of doing it for Rangiku.
- Not necessarily. He may be making a grab for power to try and become Shinigami King himself.
- Jossed. He wasn't a double agent, nor was he trying to make a grab for power. Gin was obsessed with taking a small part of Rangiku's soul back, when he could've obtained a better life with Rangiku had he let the matter with Aizen drop. He could've killed Aizen at any time, since it was apparently Aizen himself that told Gin what Kyoka's weakness, but chose not to, either because he was worried the Shinigami would defeat him (anime's version), or because he relished in the knowledge that only he knew about Aizen's Achilles' Heel. The man is still a sadistic bastard, even if he initially put that on as a facade to get closer to Aizen, but like Snape, how much of a sadistic bastard is up for debate.
- Another way he could lose is that Aizen will discover the hard way that while he is pretty badass, he will not be able to handle the powers of being the King for very long and the very power he seeked destroys him instead.
- Jossed. Aizen never obtained the Ouken.
- Jossed. Aizen wanted to kill Yamamoto to damage the Shinigamni's morale, and Yamamoto called Aizen out on using Wonderweiss as a suicide bomb.
- So Ukitake is like Raistlin? Raistlin has an evil spirit in him too, which causes his ill health. Both of them have white hair too!
- Well, it's one way to explain the cero, and it's a lot less infuriating than any of the other answers I could think of! And even if it wasn't an experiment, he could have still picked up an inner Hollow naturally like Ichigo did. I like it.
- Aizen maybe got the chance to use Ukitake as a guinea pig because the captain was genuinely ill (he's been ill since he was young, after all) and required treatment (...he'd have to get around Unohana, presumably, but this is Aizen we're talking about). Captains have high spiritual pressure, which is said to affect physical state (Unohana mentions it re Hiyori?), so perhaps that's why Ukitake's been able to survive as long as he has - he can handle a serious illness and suppress a hollow side that's no good for use in battle. If Yamamoto [[Narm found out]], he'd be forced to have his student executed, cuing a proper mentor vs student battle when Kyoraku decides he's having none of it...and avoids a fight entirely by just breaking not-exactly Visored!Ukitake out in an underhanded manner. Yes, it's late and, yes, I've thought about this too much.
- Jossed. The cero was Starrk's own just being redirected by Ukitake's zanpakuto, and Ukitake's always had Tuberculosis.
- Shinji told Hiyori to be patient because they would get their revenge on Aizen for forcing them to go through Hollowifcation (Something that was shown in the Turn Back The Pendulum flashback arc). And in the spoiler threads for chapter 364, it shows that the Vizards arrive in the fake Karakura Town.
- Jossed. As of 365, the group apparently just wants revenge on Aizen and has no interest whatsoever in the Gotei squads. Hirako also adds that they are on "their own side... and Ichigo's side"
Hollows are required to devour other hollows to reach the higher levels. Hollows feed on the spirit energy of other beings, so it stands to reason, the more hollow energy they devour, the faster they can level up. An Arrancar would be like an all you can eat energy buffet.
Ichigo has a hollow in his sword. We can assume it hasn't been sitting there twiddling it's thumbs all this time. My bet is it's been gobbling up the energy from all the defeated hollows and possibly their attacks, in order to reach a level where it can usurp Ichigo's position as the master. Things went a little pear shaped when Ichigo up and died, unexpectedly taking all that power for himself, but it's a safe bet Zangetsu has been absorbing a HUGE amount of hollow energy while Ichigo has been making his way through Hueco Mundo.
- While that is a possibility, there is no way he could become a Vasto Lorde so quickly. According to Grimmjow's flashback, he had to have snacked on at least 1,000 hollows to power up. Ichigo sure as hell didn't kill that many.
- Aha, but if he's been eating hollows that have eaten a thousand hollows themselves, then...
- Except that he hasn't actually killed any Arrancar (except Ulquiorrabut he was already in full hollow form at the time, so it couldn't have counted) and only fought 3, none of which he killed. Dordonni was offed by the Equixas, Nnoitra was killed by Kenpachi, and Grimmjow is still lying in a ditch somewhere. In fact, Ichigo only killed one hollow since his hollow appeared, and that was the random mook he took care of right after Rukia & Co. showed up to help with the Arrancars.
- Aha, but if he's been eating hollows that have eaten a thousand hollows themselves, then...
- Jossed. A Hollow can only become a Vasto Lorde by cannibalizing other Hollows. Ichigo's Inner Hollow was spawned inside of him, so it could never become a Vasto Lorde on its own.
People have hinted at this elsewhere on the page, but always seem to tie it into the main plotline of well-intentioned extremism. From everything I've seen, Aizen never intended to replace the King or make the King's Key at all! Consider:
- For all his supposed chessmaster stature, and overpowering allies, his forces haven't killed a single shinigami! In fact, he's gone out of his way to order incursions into the mortal world that allow his forces abilities to be seen without actually harming the Shinigami.
- He had Hitsugaya, Ichigo, Renji, and Kommamura at his mercy while he was escaping Soul Society. He could have taken the extra fraction of a second to slit their necks, ending their threat to his supposed plans, without affecting his overall goals in the slightest. He didn't.
- All of his forces have been paired up against Shinigami just powerful enough to defeat them. He's intimately familiar with exactly how powerful all of the Shinigami in Soul Society are, as well as how powerful his Arrancar are, so their defeats were intentional. He's forcing the Shinigami to become stronger, while simultaniously destroying the most powerful hollows in Heco Mundo. The fights could have gone the other way, Shinigami could have died, but he's willing to take that risk.
- Yamamoto knew what was going on from the start, that's why he shielded Aizen, Tousen, and Gin away at the start of the battle.
- The incident with the Central 46 is the only flaw in this theory. It's possible the Central 46 were supremely incompetent administrators, and Aizen (not a villain, but still morally ambiguious enough to do something like this) - decided he needed to "clean house."
Aizen's goal was never to get the King's Key or sit in the throne of heaven; he knew the Hollows were becomming more powerful, while the Shinigami had become so stagnant that a rag-tag group of Ryoka gave the whole of Soul Society a run for their money. Even Super-Kill-Guy Zaraki Kenpachi admitted to being a little out of practice during his fight with Nnoitora.
Aizen, just like Hitsugaya explained, knew that if the Vasto Lorde got together and decided to put the pain down on Soul Society, they would win, so he took matters into his own hands. He concocted a story to convince the most powerful hollows to launch piecemeal assaults against soul society, whittled down their numbers, and forced the Shinigami to grow in power. Now, when the true threat of the Vasto Lordes show up, they'll lack a supporting army, and they'll face a battle-hardened Shinigami army fully capable of killing them off.
- Jossed. He tricked Hitsugaya into stabbing Hinamori to save his own ass - you can't disregard that as a villainous act.
- You may have a point there. Gin may be one thing, but he would actually have to CONVINCE Tousen to join him. Revenge aside, Tousen could've believed that whatever the reason that Aizen is doing all this for is in fact the right thing to do. That being said, he's only one out of the three who's demonstrated a moral compass, albeit a warped one.
- Jossed. Aizen chose Gin because he wanted to see how Gin would kill him.
- Jossed. Komamura was joined by Hisagi against Tosen, and each of the Visoreds went against Wonderweiss or an Espada. Mashiro took out Superchunky.
- I wondered that myself, given that he tells Ichigo "If you don't kill me now, it'll never be over" while he's already dissolving.
- He only says that in the (unreliable) Sleepy Fans translation. Franky House has him saying "If you do not cut me down, then this will go unsettled for eternity", and Maximum 7 has him saying "If you don't kill me now, this conflict won't be resolved", indicating that he wants Ichigo to claim his victory before he dies.
- This troper just had a thought: isn't Ulquiorra's eye able to scatter into dust and let other people view his memories? What if it's just his whole body that has done that, and he just does it to his eye because it's the closest, most convenient detatchable body part to do the memory dust shtick? He might be floating around as a cloud and somehow take over a stray hollow and implants his memories into it, therefore causing him to be "reborn" in a sense?
- I wondered that myself, given that he tells Ichigo "If you don't kill me now, it'll never be over" while he's already dissolving.
- Jossed, as per Word of God.
WRONG! There's one more shinigami we can't forget, who, as my random theory states, will be of great importance this arc.
Of course, I'm talking about none other than the great Zennosuke Kurumadani. Yes, Afro-san will save the day.
- Since it's filler, there's a possibility that Isshin could be involved in the fight as well. Yoruichi and the Vizards, too.
- Yoruichi is already helping, though she fights without her zanpakutou, so that's unlikely to change. Isshin could fight, as long as the characters who don't know his true identity don't see him (since only Kon and Urahara, give or take, know Isshin's secret, and changing that would change the status quo.) As for the Vizards, they could help, but why would they when they don't give a damn about Soul Society? All very possible, of course, just with varying degrees of likeliness.
- Jossed. He never appeared in it.
- Jossed. He never did.
Why not it would be funny if of all things it gets resolved because of Ichigo's hollow.
even more funny if Muramasa does the stupid thing and ALLOWS HIM TO TAKE A PHYSCIAL FORM outside of Ichigo oh wait it currently looks like thats exactly what he's trying to do at the moment.
- Jossed. It was never asked... in Hueco Mundo.
- I thought Ichigo repaid his debt when he saved her, wasn't that his whole point of going to save her? (Other than the True Companions thing?)
- Jossed. Aaroniero stole Kaien's body and soul when he fused with Metastacia.
- Jossed. Ichigo is instrumental to their cause because he never saw Kyoka Suigetsu. Furthermore, Ichigo got his powers restored by all of the seated officers, on order of Yamamoto himself.
- Jossed. Kouga Kuchiki is a different character than Gou Koga.
- Jossed. Her power is closet to Fullbring.
- The manga hasn't once claimed her powers are fullbring or even close to fullbring. However, this has been jossed because the manga stated that she has "human power", a banner under which her power, Chad's power, Fullbring and Quincy power all fall but which excludes shinigami power and hollow power.
- JOSSED. There is no evidence that she has gone through any 'training' with Urahara, and Kubo would have made sure that one of the True Companions would comment on something different with Tatsuki, but he hasn't.
- Likely Jossed now, as she's heading for the main battlefield with Ichigo.
- JOSSED.
- Jossed. Harribel is the new queen of Hueco Mundo
- Wouldn't it be too obvious? Perhaps the key is hidden in the weakest seated Shinigami, just to throw away suspicions... Poor Hanatarou. Seems like Unohana Retsu knows that, or else, why would she make he risks his life so much? She wants him to try and be stronger, to not have the Key so easily stolen, of course.
- Who says it has to be a shinigami? See the "Orihime is the King's Key, or has it sealed inside of her" theory below. Or don't, since the title makes it pretty clear.
- Jossed. The King's Key is contained in the bones of the Royal Guard members.
- Who says it has to be a shinigami? See the "Orihime is the King's Key, or has it sealed inside of her" theory below. Or don't, since the title makes it pretty clear.
- Or maybe Ichigo is the Key. Hell, even Kon might be the key as well due to their unique characteristics!
- While that'd be interesting, neither of them have barrier-centered, reality-rejecting abilities.
- Jossed. Each Royal Guard member had their bones made into the King's Key by the Soul King.
- My vote's on Hana. xD Because I like him, and because - well - a seventh seat going on a mission to Hueco Mundo with a bunch of Captains and Vice Captains is really odd, you must admit. Something's gotta happen there.
- My vote is on a very early character, one who has been commented on as having immense spiritual energy (and no one can figure out why)... Ichigo Kurosaki. Or at least the rightful king (i.e. for some reason he has the right to be king), and that is the reason he has so much reiatsu.
- Misaki whatever his mother's name was. We don't know anything about her- just that Isshin loved her. If she turns out to have been the Princess of Soul Society, that would explain why they were found in the Land of the Living- such a marriage was forbidden, as the Kurosakis are not a Great Noble family, and so they eloped to the Land of the Living, using humanizing gigais purchased from Urahara.
- My mind only thinks about Hinamori Momo. Dammit, she was pretty baddass to try to challenge someone way stronger than her! But then again, the most improbable could be the one. So, I vote Uryuu.
- If you ask this troper, the King's a Queen and her name's Yachiru.
- And it's the most plausible theory of all of them! It explains how Kenpachi didn't just cut her guts off; he RESPECTS her as a superior!
- It's Mizuiro or Keigo. Gotta be.
- Although they probably are there as parodies of the main character's best (and probably only) friends, like Toji and Kensuke, or Kazu and Kenta.
- How can so many brilliant tropers be so incredibly wrong? Clearly it's Chizuru. There's no way a normal human could survive being beaten to a pulp by Tatsuki so many times and still keep coming back for more.
- And when she is Fuhr^^^^King, all the female shinigami will have to WEAR MINISKIRTS!
- Thought it was Power of Love, you know, since she was always being beaten to a pulp while thinking in Orihime... She also could be a masochist.
- And when she is Fuhr^^^^King, all the female shinigami will have to WEAR MINISKIRTS!
- You're all wrong. It's Ururu, with her memory bleached from herself. After all which situation is the safest to keep the King? As a little girl that acts almost like a mod-person, seeming to not know even how to read, and living at a banned officer's place. Because it's not like they haven't done something like that before. Also, if weapon size really means spiritual power, that girl is by far the most powerful character in Bleach.
- All [[Jossed}}. The King of Soul Society is a new character.
- Gin is "mortally" wounded by Aizen. He realizes that he can no longer fight in his condition and will lose consciousness soon.
- Ichigo pulls his big damn hero moment. Gin thinks "Oh, good. Ichigo is here. He can finish the job. I can sleep now."
- Gin blacks out.
- Gin gets healed. A wound like that, he can survive if they get to him soon enough. They will get to him soon enough.
- Judgement time: Gin was trying to defeat Aizen, and so can be spared execution. However, he did assist Aizen up until he revealed his true goal. As such, he can't return to captaincy, and instead goes into exile (possibly self-imposed).
- Gin doesn't want Rangiku to follow him, so he leaves without telling her.
And consider: if he was dead, there would be a memento left behind: his corpse (or perhaps less morbid, a grave marker).
- There wasn't anyone around to heal him. Unohana was still in the Fake Karakura, whereas Gin was mauled in the actual town in Soul Society. It's unlikely the Central 46 would let Gin roam free either. There would be no body, as they dissolve into spirit particles (see: Kaien), and I doubt Central 46 would even bother giving a traitor a burial. Finally, and perhaps most tellingly, Rangiku's monologue carries a strong note of finality with all her talk of moving on. All in all, it looks like Rangiku is saying she will go on with life now that Gin is dead.
- Except that shinigami corpses don't dissolve (Examples: Aizen's fake corpse, Tosen's dead friend); only hollows do that. Kaien disappeared because he was possessed by the hollow. And Rangiku's soliloque doesn't explicitly say he's dead. The translation I read had her say "I have always liked that about you." Have includes the present (as opposed to had, which is strictly past), and speaking of someone in the present implies they are still alive. As for burial, even if he isn't buried in Seireitei, he would still have to be buried somewhere.
- There wasn't anyone around to heal him. Unohana was still in the Fake Karakura, whereas Gin was mauled in the actual town in Soul Society. It's unlikely the Central 46 would let Gin roam free either. There would be no body, as they dissolve into spirit particles (see: Kaien), and I doubt Central 46 would even bother giving a traitor a burial. Finally, and perhaps most tellingly, Rangiku's monologue carries a strong note of finality with all her talk of moving on. All in all, it looks like Rangiku is saying she will go on with life now that Gin is dead.
Jossed: Kubo himself confirmed Gin's death during an interview at the Leipzig Book Fair.
- Wasn't Grimmjow's "death" "confirmed" too, at some point? Nevermind that being "dead" probably wouldn't keep Kubo from having them reincarnated or their spirit-particles harnessed and re-used or something equally ridiculous... or he could simply change his mind. I mean, it's Kubo we're talking about here...
- Jossed. He was captain of 10th division.
- Jossed, Ginjo and Tsukishima specifically decided NOT to bookmark him, to see if Ichigo can tell the difference.
- Jossed; he was made by Yushima.
- Jossed. Nozomi was another extention of Yushima's soul, turned into a Gikongan.
- Plausible, however it does seem to be going too far. Also, even if this was the case, Ichigo would be majorly messed-up afterwards. But then again, most people thought Ginjo's eye-cutting was just way over-the-top and obviously not for Ichigo's benefit, but looking back was actually necessary. If this theory is true, then it's likely there's an ulterior motive for his powers being restored.
- Jossed. Though it wasn't very likely at all anyway.
- Jossed, they were an independent party.
- Jossed, completely unrelated.
- In 463, Ginjo told Tsukishima to kill Shishigawara after the battle because he thinks his ability will be trouble if it's strengthened. The same could be said of Tsukishima, who also didn't receive Ichigo's fullbring.
- Jossed.
- Jossed, he's dead.
- Nope; he's still alive.
- Still Jossed, the new Big Bad is Yhwach.
- Nope; he's still alive.
We could end up with a battle between the Vandenreich (and whatever allies they procure) and a coalition of Gotei 13/Visoreds/Fullbringers/Humans/Hollows/Arrancar and Espada.
- Jossed; Yhwach is a Quincy, and Hichigo is still on Ichigo's side.
- Seemingly jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed!
- Further, when it is revealed why Ichigo's bankai couldn't be stolen, that explanation would extend to Genryūsai or the other way around.
- One possibly explanation is that it's "too hot to handle", and will burn through the attempt to contain it.
- Or the blonde member will attempt to, but is either 1) cannot be snagged or 2) Yamamoto swiftly destroys their medals before it can be done.
- Confirmed: They don't know the full power of Zanka no Tachi so they can't steal it.
- Jossed: Turns out that's incorrect, they could always steal it, it's just so strong that the fake Juhabach/Royd Lloyd was ordered not to steal it because only the real Juhabach is capable of stealing it and controlling its power.
- Jossed. 1000 years ago, he looked like Zangetsu.
- If he was a Quincy, he'd most likely not have a zanpakutou at all, and I guess we've all had enough of Aizen.
- The Juha Bach look alike had some kind of sword too, and I'm pretty sure he was a quincy. So Aizen might have a sword and his hypnothism could be a special skill like the Stern Ritters various abilitys. And yes, I too had enough of Aizen a LONG time ago, but maybe Kubo hadn't. Also, he's a troll, so he might make Aizen the villain agin just to piss everyone off.
- Considering the hard blow Bleach took with the terrible Fullbringer arc and the dangerous position it finds itself almost every week now in the TOC, the last thing Kubo needs is pissing off the remaining fans.
- Jossed, 510 reveals the Juhabach is most definitely not Aizen.
- Jossed.
- It was very suspicious of him refusing to go to Hueco Mundo alongside all the others, and the looks on his face. He most likely knew exactly what they were going to find there.
- Uryu is working for the Quincys. He sewed the uniforms.
- Jossed. He has joined the bad guys.
- He better have something. If he is dead it's gonna be really shitty.
- Jossed.
- See the spoiler for the same theory about Ichigo.
- Jossed. Yhwach is way too old to be Uryu's grandfather. More like great-great-great-...-great grandfather.
My reasoning is that, in the actual manga, they've been mentioned all of three times. None of them have ever shown up, and there's no concrete proof they exist. Plus with all of the Hope Spots of the current arc, it would be one more nail in the coffin if one of the characters manages to find the hidden location of Zero Squad, goes there to recruit them to help, and there's nobody there... and there never was.
- Unlikely considering Juhabach decided to flee before the Zero Squad could prevent their campaign from progressing.
- Jossed. Zero Squad have made their appearance - although there are only five of them.
- I feel that this is the only logical conclusion, unless Kubo decides to retcon Isshin's status as Ichigos biological father.
- Well, Ichigo is descended from Yuha Bach on his mother's side, but Yuha Bach is Ichigo's distant ancestor who is over 1000 years old, not his grandfather.
- Jossed. Masaki and Ryuuken were engaged to be married forced by Ryuuken's mother in order to preserve tthe Quincy blood-line in chapter 530.
- Jossed. In chapter 530, it's revealed that Masaki is the only child of the Kurosaki family and an adopted cousin of Ryuuken.
- Do we know she's only adopted? She brings it up as a potential objection to marriage.
- Jossed as of 544. Uryuu was "the last survivor" because he was the only one who lived through The Purge.
- Jossed as of 544. Uryuu was "the last survivor" because he was the only one who lived through The Purge.
- Bearded SR - Stern Ritter G
- Jossed, Stern Ritter G is a loli.
- As Nodt - Stern Ritter F (Confirmed)
- Bambietta Basterbine - Stern Ritter E (Confirmed)
- Old Guy - Stern Ritter D
- Jossed, D is a different guy.
- Mohawk Guy - Stern Ritter C
- He is H.
- Masked Lady - Stern Ritter B
- See below.
- Blondie - Stern Ritter A
- He is B.
- This is now somewhat warped, It turns out that the letter refers to their ability and not rank.
- Bearded SR - Stern Ritter G
- Jossed, they are different characters.
- Jossed, he's still there.
- Jossed, if anything the leader of the Vandenreich is Yamamoto's Evil Counterpart
We know Aizen was trying to build a Hogyoku long before he was notified of Hikifune's promotion (or, alternately, "disappearance"). Based on the many theories above that the Soul King is actually a prisoner or a demon or some sort of extremely evil being with the Royal Guard as a restraint, it's entirely possible that Aizen would blame Hikifune's death on him. And we know that Aizen was always power-hungry, but Hikifune's death may have been the last straw before he actively started pursuing Hollow powers. Also, in Episode 206, at the very beginning of the Turn Back the Pendulum arc, check out Aizen's reaction to the news of Hikifune's "promotion" - Aizen, who by now should be a master actor, is visibly shocked. She must have meant a lot to him.
- Jossed, Hikifune is alive.
....... Because he deserves it; not only just inserting himself into the lives of Ichigo's friends as some Marty Stu, but replacing the most important people in Chad and Orihime's memories, Chad's grandfather and Orihime's brother.
- Jossed. Byakuya was the one who killed him, and it was no easy feat.
- Not happening. He has finally learned the real name of his zanpakuto.
- Jossed.
As a side-note, Ustegnaz, aside from being a backwards spelling of Zangetsu, also sounds somewhat like 'Ustedes', which is basically Spanish for 'You (plural)'. It's random and not intentional, but Ichigo's second form vaguely resembled that of Ulquiorra.
- Jossed. It's even crazier: Hollow Ichigo is a Hollow and the real zanpakuto spirit of Zangetsu, and Old Man is Ichigo's Quincy powers.
Think of it as a Soul Society Rebellion...no not that Zanpakut? Filler thing.
In one of the early chapters, Ishida and Ichigo had a Hollow killing contest (where a tape measure REALLY would have sufficed]]), this is where alot about the Quincy and the Shinigami are explained.
Rukia says something about how the Shinigami have to keep a balance of souls between Soul Society and the Human World and that the Quincy's Hollow killing...pretty much sent this straight to hell.
That always struck me as odd, since apparently, shooting a Hollow with a laser banhammers it out of existence, but cutting it to shit with a Zanpakuto does nothing of the sort.
Also, if the balance is between Soul Society and the Human World, how would killing something that came from Hueco Mundo affect the balance between Soul Society and the Human World?
What's more, how would that explain Hueco Mundo, Hell or the King's Realm even existing?
I say to that...
I say that there is something fucked up in Chinatown, mates.
Since the whole balance of souls things makes no sense, in a world where suspension of disbelief says that there are Kimono wearing ghosts having sword fights on the roof of your house at night, I'd say it's likely that the Shinigami's of old created the BS story as a means to hide something.
Let's say the real reason the Quincy's were wiped out was to silence them, assuming they found out.
Let's say Aizen found out and decided to expose the truth, albeit in a morally ambiguous way. (Seriously, all that shit he pulled on the Vice-Captains and the Vizard... not cool.)
He hatched this 100-year-long plan in an attempt to expose the Shinigami's secret. (They DO love Apples!)
Granted, a major part of his plans would seem to involve finding the Soul Society King, we can only assume the secret involves him. (if he even exists.)
Now of course, this would all be revealed in a blaze of glory after Aizen's demise.
At which point, Soul Society would be pretty much cluster fucked into a civil war, likely caused by whatever was revealed.
Now, the captains would probably be split evenly between the two sides of the civil war, with Ichigo and company (and likely The Vizard, Grimmjow, and that one Prima Espada who got pwned by Chad then saved by Unohana) with one side or another.
This would allow for a new story arc without introducing a ton of characters, allow for some cast death (which the fans are begging for...I think), allow Uryuu to get his revenge on Kurotsuchi and to see some of the fights that have been being built up for awhile but otherwise couldn't take place. (Ukitake and Kyoraku VS Captain Grandpa, Ichigo VS Byakuya, and if the games are to be taken seriously Kenpachi VS Byakuya).
Now of course the arc doesn't have to play out exactly like that, its just a basic idea that I came up with while grinding in Persona 4.
- I agree for the most part; the whole 'cleanse the sins' thing seems like a load of BS. It seems far more likely that the Zanpakuto just sends the soul to Soul Society or 'eats' the spirit. However, this troper personally loves huge numbers of characters.
- Jossed. The new (and final) arc is about Quincies.
- Jossed. His "specialness" was genuine, because Aizen crippled his intellect.
- Partially jossed. Neither had any ressureccion, but Aizen did transform into something resembling an angel.
- Jossed.
- She says that the reason she didn't restore his spirit energy before is because she looked at his healed body and Captain level power and thought he was restored. She didn't realize that Ichigo has more raw power than an average Captain.
- Keyword is that she says.... She could have been mistaken either way, but the thought afterwards does seem to be of a different tone then the rest of what she has said or even shown so far.
- She thinks it. I doubt she's thinking lies just to trick us.
- No she isn't.
- It'd be interesting if her Bankai was a bow. Just so we could, in fact, link one thing to another. Her shikai is probably a manta-shaped blade of sorts (I copied the idea from a Subeta weapon, but please, don't kill me). Also, it'd be funny if she scolded Ishida for being so... Haphazardous. Oh, the irony. Worst part? I was planning something similar in my fanfiction.
- Could we get a link to that fanfic?
- So far there's no sign of this.
- Jossed. Never happened, and she is dead now.
Two: It turns out that Unohana, Old Man Genocide, and Shunsui Kyouraku are involved in Aizen's plot, or are the ones who actually want the King's Key. Captain Tuberculosis could be in on it too.
- I was thinking something similar to number one, I'll bet anything that something at least will be different from what the Captains (and us) think is happening, I was thinking maybe the top three faked their deaths. But for two, even if Old Man Genocide and/or Unohana are traitors I just can't see it of Grabass and Tuberculosis. They are too firmly established as good guys.
- It'd be interesting (and shippingtastic) if it was only Captain Mom, according to a theory way above. It'd explain why Aizen didn't attack her. Also, he's actually trying to protect her (not sure of what), and Ichigo will understand how he feels, which will be the key to discover Aizen's weakness (like a theory above).
- Neither of these happened.
- Source?
- Back in the Soul Society arc, the anime episode with Ukitake stopping Byakuya from attacking Ichigo if I remember correctly.
Jossed. He used to lead Squad 10.
- That's an interesting theory, but what if someone has never been through an emotionally traumatizing event in their lives? I think a combination of poison and acid would be more painful than flames.
- It'd be interesting, but the Bankai that's more likely to inflict emotional pain (probably through Lotus-Eater Machine) is Aizen's.
- Surely if someone has never been through an emotionally traumatising experience, they'd be even more vulnerable to emotional pain, given that they haven't built up any mental defences necessary to resist it?
Jossed. It rips the flesh off her victims' bones.
- First, when Ichigo and Unohana arrive at Fake Karakura Town, they will witness the amount of injured ones in the Soul Society side. To fix things quicker, Unohana will either go shikai or bankai which will amount to a massive area heal. Harribel will be caught in the massive heal and recover.
- Second, when Ichigo and Unohana arrive at Fake Karakura Town, the first thing that they notice is that Harribel plummeting to the ground after being sliced by Aizen. After either hearing Harribel's soon-to-be-last words, or someone explains how she got cheap-shotted, Unohana shows pity on her and decided to heal her (Hey, she did heal a Privaron Espada, so her tolerance should be pretty big).
Likewise, there are several outcomes of this event. Either Harribel will be grateful for the save and later pulled a Heel–Face Turn, or she will pull The Farmer and the Viper, because Evil Cannot Comprehend Good.
- Harribel seems to be loyal to her principles, but she would still want to avenge her three fallen companions, and would try to become stronger, so she could defeat Yamamoto. I can totally picture it.
Harribel was healed by Orihime, and in the current arc it doesn't look like Unohana will come to anyone's help ever again.
A couple years later, they discovered during the course of normal loving-couple activities that the gigai had made them sufficiently human as to be able to conceive, and Ichigo was born. They decided to build a family, but waited a few years to be certain that Ichigo was a normal and healthy human, having Karin and Yuzu once they were sure. For a time, it was good. Then Ichigo encountered the Grand Fisher, and Masaki, powers locked away by the gigai, was forced to give her own life to protect him, and became a Hollow. Knowing thanks to the return of her power once free of the gigai that if she returned to Earth she would destroy her family, she instead turned her hunger on her fellow Hollows, and over a decade eventually became (at least a part of) the powerful Adjuchas Neliel Tu Oderschvank. Meanwhile, her children grew up without her, her son became a shinigami and then a Vizard, and her husband's gigai began to fail.
When Neliel met Aizen, she gladly accepted the transformation into an Arrancar in order to escape her hunger and stop needing to kill; in the process, the part of herself that had been Kirio and then Masaki came to the fore. She recognized the unassuming Lieutenant she had once known and discovered his plan to wipe out her family and all their friends and neighbors, but feigned loyalty despite her outrage, and was made the first Tres Espada, representing Sacrifice. When Nnoitra and Szayel betrayed her, she lost her conscious memories along with her apparent years. Upon meeting Ichigo, however, Nel subconsciously recognized him to some extent, and immediately latched on to him. By the time Ichigo lost to Nnoitra, her desire to protect him had grown so strong that she was able to break the seal on her power and memories and pound Nnoitra into the dirt, at least until her power faded. Whether she will retain her memories now that she is a child again, and if so what she will tell Ichigo and the rest of her family, remains to be seen.
- Her first words upon reverting from Neliel to Nel was "Why is Nel small again?" Indicating that she has a least a vague memory of being Neliel.
- Nah, Mizuiro is Aizen in disguise, Keigo just happens to be his descendant. His personality (or lack thereof) reminds too much of the kind masquerade Aizen had (except that we don't really know if Aizen likes older women; it'd be hillarious if he did, though).
- Jossed. She was a living human, and a Quincy.
- According to this legend, he could very well be KENPACHI'S SWORD SPIRIT! HOW FITTING! Also, it'd be awesome if everything was a plan by Muramasa to call Kenpachi's attention. He was obviously lying when he said he killed his owner; a sword spirit should die if it does so. It'll be hillarious when Ken-chan comes and says "You wish you killed me, bastard".
Jossed. The creator of zanpakuto was revealed to be a dude from Squad 0, Oetsu Nimaya.
- Alternatively, he can only affect someone else if they are visualising the same thing, hence him trying to get Yachiru to picture her bones as cookies in a 'Don't think of pink elephants!' kinda way, and why the same didn't work with Kenpachi who didn't know what cookies are.
- Half-Jossed, he can imagine his own death, and he almost did.
- Would explain why this Kenpachi still is wearing that eyepatch.... especially since it was shown given to Yachiru and one would think this is Kenpachis first time back in the Seireitei after his battle with Unohana, given the time frame of everything thats going on..
- Jossed. Ken-chan is the one manhandling Gremmy.
- Jossed. kind of. Rukia was the one to defeat and kill As Nodt. Byakuya saved her by destroying his eye attack in Vollstandig, but hardly what you'd call a rematch.
- Jossed. V is a different character; Gremmy Thoumeux- The Visionary.
- Jossed, she is "the Glutton."
- Byakuya has regained his bankai, so one half of the prediction has come true.
- And the other half is Jossed.
- Jossed: As Nodt is male.
- Jossed.