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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

360NoTrope Since: Apr, 2023
#202176: Sep 22nd 2023 at 3:38:34 AM

So what are we going to do about the Mortal Kombat Characters? I am not going to spoil much but the characters in Mortal Kombat 1 are drastically different from what people originally knew them as. Do we need to completely rewrite their profiles to reflect the new changes? Or can those New Era incarnations exist as alternate forms these Mortal Kombat characters can take from time to time?

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#202177: Sep 22nd 2023 at 3:51:57 AM

[up] We already discussed this two pages ago. I would personally wait until their Hype Prevention date expires (it's November 19th, for reference's sake) before anything Mortal Kombat related would be discussed here.


Still awaiting approval and/or additional suggestions for my Zac Hobson draft.

[tup]'s — 2 (Excessive-Menace, PuzzarianIdea)

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
No. 1 Entourage Fanboy
#202178: Sep 22nd 2023 at 7:39:24 AM

[up] [tup] for Zac Hobson.

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#202180: Sep 22nd 2023 at 12:13:35 PM

Due to datamined information, i suggest that Bi-Han (currently Noob Saibot in the pantheon) should be held off from being totally reworked. Info for another story DLC is there and he has a role. In any case, he still fits Finishing Move if anyone asks (His Spine Rip fatality is the most iconic one from the Mortal Kombat franchise)

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CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#202182: Sep 22nd 2023 at 3:56:49 PM

"I've been gagged by the volume of my own corruption! Is it not fitting, then, that I be President.. of this... quiet... Earth?"


Let's lead this to another beta draft; here's Hidan. I decided to do him for now mainly because October is showing up and I felt that it'd be appropriate to prepare myself for spooky month by doing a pretty nasty and mean villain as a teaser warm up (he's even got the grim reaper aesthetic... sort of).

Requested suggestions are listed below. Any other thoughts and ideas would be appreciated...

Huh, now I wish Shikamaru was in the Pantheon...


Prototype Mode

Hidan, God of More Despicable Minions

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hidan_ol.png
Activating his Curse 
  • Intermediate God
  • Symbol: The Symbol of Jashin and his Red Triple-Bladed Scythe
  • Theme Song: Hidan
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Insane and Malicious Immortals, A stout Believer of Jashin and its Teachings, Absolutely Deranged and Enjoys a Good Fight, Psychopathic Manchild, Among the Worst Villains in the Series, The Most Evil Member of Akatsuki, A Complete Asshole, Sir Swears-a-Lot, The Brute, Gets Off from Being Injured, Evil Is Hammy, Laughably Evil, White Hair, Black Heart, Really Likes Committing his Depraved Actions and Takes Joy from Making Others Suffer, Hero Killer, Very Gung-Go About Fighting
  • Domains: Murder, Religion, Insanity, Profanity, Blood, Depravity
  • High Priest: Adam Smasher
  • Allies:
  • Former Superiors: Nagato/Pain, Obito Uchiha
  • Enemies: Kakashi Hatake, Chōji Akimichi, Naruto Uzumaki, Tsunade, Gaara, Killer B, The Tailed Beasts
  • Hidan was once a resident of the village of Yugakure during a time when the nation was in a period of peace and not willing to get involved in further conflict that plagued the rest of the Ninja World, but Hidan not only disapproved, but outright hated that his village wanted to move to a direction of peace, believing that war and bloodshed were not just necessary, but a blessing to be pursued. To that end, Hidan went on to become a believer in a religion that worshipped Jashin and came to enjoy its practices, to the extent that he gave himself to a ritual experimental that rendered him immortal so long as he continued to kill and shed blood for Jashin, a direction that he was personally eager to partake in. When he couldn't convince anyone in his village to side with him, Hidan went on to kill many of Yugakure's residents and escape the village, marking himself a missing-nin. Wanting to continue his crazed slew of killings, Hidan was met by a trio of ninjas who were part of an upcoming criminal conspiracy, Akatsuki. One of the members, Kakuzu stepped in to do battle against Hidan, and after a stalemate, the Jashin worshiper was impressed to see that his opponent was an immortal like him, enough to accept an invitation into the Akatsuki as a member per Konan's request, with Kakuzu being appointed as his personal partner. The objectives of capturing jinchuriki, hosts of the legendary Tailed Beasts served as a bonus for Hidan, who would put more priority on killing as many people as he could to satiate his religious desires and bloodlust and working with Kakuzu's side job as a Bounty Hunter for powerful targers. This would lead him to a confrontation with ninjas from Konohagakure where after a grueling fight, Hidan would personally kill Asuma Sarutobi, a member of the Twelve Ninja Guardians, instilling a deep enmity towards his group of apprentices, Team 10. Days later, Hidan and Kakuza would again battle Team 10, under the leadership of Kakashi Hatake, where he would be singled out by Shikamaru Nara into a one-on-one battle deep in the forests, culminating with Hidan being outsmarted and defeated by the younger ninja through clever tactics and trickery. As he was buried in the rubble and his body blown apart, Hidan cursed and screamed at his victorious opponent as he was finally smothered into the ground...
  • What happened to Hidan after his battle against Shikamaru remains lost, though depending on who asks about it, it might be for the better. As the requirements for his immortality require him to kill others in the name of Jashin, Hidan might have suffered a slow and agonizing death, buried deep underground with his body blown and scattered to pieces while his head begins to rot from malnutrition... whilst slowly losing his immortality. A horrifying fate, but one that was deserved for one as awful and depraved as him. Even so, he'd still find himself in the Pantheon, fully restored and immediately wanting to resume his usual hobby; killing under the name of his religion and for his own sick enjoyment... only he faced a new issue there, namely that the Akatsuki has since disbanded, Kakuzu is nowhere in the Pantheon, and he's seemingly all on his own. It took a while for him to realize he might as well kickstart a new goal for himself; popularize the religion of Jashinism; if he doesn't have a legacy, then there's no one stopping him from creating one. That, and vowing revenge against Shikamaru and Team 10, regardless of whether they're in the Pantheon or not.
  • Hidan is, for the lack of a better term, a complete asshole. And not only that, he's a sick, twisted monster whose depravity far surpasses his own superiors by miles; all he cares about is butchering other people because, to him, there's nothing better than mass slaughter. Unsurprisingly, he's proud of his evilness, yet he's aware that it's not going to win him many friends, though that's more because of his abrasive, foul-mouthed attitude getting on the nerves of anyone around him, even his own partners. Yet in spite of this, he established himself as a feared, dangerous figure for a reason; he's a powerful fighter with great resistance and durability, wielding his large triple-bladed scythe with surprising skill and refinement, but what truly makes him so terrifying is his immortality. Having bound himself to Jashin's teachings, Hidan cannot be killed traditionally; any injuries he takes only amuse him, and even beheading him just incapacitates and annoys him, though he would be unable to fight unless he's reattached to his body. Even worse, all he needs to kill his enemies is a lick of their blood. This is to ensure they are bound to him mentally, after which he creates a symbol of Jashin with their blood. Once he's in said symbol, Hidan can injure himself using a retractable pike in any way he likes, knowing that the pain he inflicts on himself would transfer to his opponents, which could injure, cripple, or kill them depending on the injury the Jashin believer inflicts on himself... and he enjoys every single minute of it. He also takes the appearance of having jet-black skin with white markings, akin to a grim reaper.
  • (Akatsuki)
  • (Enemies from the Ninja World)
  • (Spree Killers)
  • (Omnicidal Maniacs)
  • Evil/Murderous Religions/Cults
  • (Villainous Organizations of Interest)
  • (Potential Villains of Interest [particularly sadists and other kinds of killers])
  • (Immortals)
  • (More Despicable Minions)

Edited by CrimsonShark on Sep 22nd 2023 at 12:24:13 PM

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snafuthegreat The Charismatic Sociopath from Place of Red Execution Since: Sep, 2011
The Charismatic Sociopath
#202183: Sep 22nd 2023 at 5:54:56 PM

@Crimson Shark: In that case, I call dibs on Kenshi Takahashi. Might be on friendly terms with the Yakuza deities...

@Hidan: Enemies with Ryu Hayabusa, as he believes that Jashin (his patron god) and The Demon Jashin (whom Ryu had killed in the past) are one in the same.

Should look into ascending Himuro Gemma...

Also, if anyone wants to do Dwight Manfredi, PM me for the file.

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#202184: Sep 22nd 2023 at 6:58:08 PM

[up][up]He wouldn't want to fight Buu, doesn't matter which one. Neither of them bleed and they require complete obliteration to kill. Meanwhile either Buu could obliterate him completely and they have the techniques necessary to do so.

EDIT: Skarlet would avoid him because she's made out of blood. One touch from him and she's a goner. It's the same reason why she avoids Stain.

Edited by Gehayadren on Sep 22nd 2023 at 10:35:37 AM

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#202185: Sep 22nd 2023 at 8:50:28 PM

@ Hidan: Despite comparable depravity to beings like AM, he would want to avoid him and other inflictors of And I Must Scream (including rare heroic ones like Josuke Higashikata who turned the vicious Anjuro into a rock) as his sadomasochism wouldn't do anything to help him endure some total sensory deprivation fate. Not helped by his canon fate is being a head buried in the ground and not dying until after it rots

Weirdly "being buried alive as a head" is something Bender shares in common but he'd consider Hidan a sick and twisted meatbag and being a robot he enjoyed chilling in the ground for over a thousand years and was kind of annoyed his nap was disturbed

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uwu
#202186: Sep 22nd 2023 at 9:14:12 PM

@Crimson

Los Iluminados and the Harga are violent, dangerous cults.

Darkness of Kazuma's party is a massive masochist (but not a sadist).

Those who fight with their blood, like Jedah Dohma, Mirai Kuriyama and Lady Maria should be wary of him given his blood-bond power. Himiko Toga is also an insane villain with powers connected to the blood of others. I wonder if he'd be wary of The Red Death.

Voldemort is an evil immortal who committed many atrocities to keep himself alive.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Sep 22nd 2023 at 9:14:55 AM

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#202187: Sep 23rd 2023 at 1:33:25 PM

I was wondering what tropes are open, I want to Ascend Cairne Bloodhoof among other characters, since he was removed?

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uwu
#202188: Sep 23rd 2023 at 1:39:04 PM

[up] There's a database to check which tropes are taken or not. Do note that it might be outdated in some places, hence it would also be good to check the other Pantheon pages as well as the Related pages for tropes to see if they're taken or available.

Also, what work is that character from? I'm assuming World of Warcraft, but when proposing a character you should mention what work they come from.

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#202189: Sep 23rd 2023 at 1:47:19 PM

Cairne is from Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos, which has its own page planned.

Cairne Bloodhoof used to be in the pantheon, but someone, whom to my understanding felt because Cairne got a bridge dropped on him in World Of Warcraft, he had to be fully removed from the pantheon altogether.

We have dead characters all the time and Cairne was a influential and popular character, so I think he deserves a spot.

Also I'm not super good with google spreadsheets. Is there a direct list of all the untaken tropes in the spreadsheets, because I don't see one yet?

Edited by Monsund on Sep 23rd 2023 at 1:52:35 AM

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uwu
#202190: Sep 23rd 2023 at 2:45:09 PM

[up] I think he was removed for having a poor profile than him being killed off in that work. Dying doesn't disqualify a character from being a deity in the Pantheon.

Also, there is no list of untaken tropes for this project. Since there are new trope pages made on a regular basis, it would be very difficult to make a comprehensive list.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Sep 23rd 2023 at 2:55:35 AM

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#202191: Sep 23rd 2023 at 2:58:58 PM

I saw the old discussion and the argument was that Cairne was killed off.

I'll look for a trope.

BTW, is Unintentionally Unsympathetic, taken in the pantheon? What about Pocket Dimension?

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#202192: Sep 23rd 2023 at 2:59:45 PM

Yeah i never understood why Cairne dying meant we had to have Baine in his place.

My suggestion is having both Cairne and Baine share the latter's current trope.

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#202194: Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:05:04 PM

In the past, there was someone else whom insisted on doing a Cairne/Baine shared entry, but they never completed it even after I gave them my write up.

I could do it myself if people still want that as opposed to Cairne having his own separate entry for another trope? Too bad Gammoth has Shockwave Stomp now.

Also there's some entries for characters(Guts and Simon Laurent) that I don't think fit. Anyone mind if I remove them.

[up]

May I make my argument for Unintentionally Unsympathetic.

The character, I want, literally wiped out an entire tribe, yet was still depicted as a good guy!

Edited by Monsund on Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:08:15 AM

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uwu
#202195: Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:11:06 PM

[up] I'm alright with Cairne and Baine sharing a profile (presumably holding Our Minotaurs Are Different), but to work on them you need to explain why they fit the trope in detail (about a paragraph length will be good) and get at least 1 [tup] without dissenting opinion. Said length suggestion is why I'm not too convinced by your explanation for why he fits Unintentionally Unsympathetic.

As for Guts and Simon Laurent, what interactions in their profiles do you think don't make sense and should be removed? That way, we can judge if they're objectionable or not.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:11:28 AM

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#202196: Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:23:07 PM

  • Before and during the events of Cataclysm, the dwarven General Twinbraid was portrayed as a Sociopathic Soldier who built a dwarven fortress on tauren lands to research a Titan complex and justified his actions because of extreme Fantastic Racism. When his son died in a flying machine crash caused by the destruction of his fortress, itself built upon stolen land at the expense of the tauren, Twinbraid opted to deal with his grief by attacking and killing innocent Bilgewater goblins solely out of his own hatred, admitting he would have done it even if there was no strategic value. This Hate Sink characterization apparently was not passed on to the writers of Mists of Pandaria, as there Twinbraid, now promoted to High Marshal, was re-characterized as a more sympathetic character, trying to stop the Horde to prevent other parents from suffering the loss of a child like he did, which not only doesn't gel with his existing personality but comes off as a complete abstaining of responsibility from his actions and those of his son which caused it in the first place.

I'll type more on Twinbraid later, but for now, here's his Un Intentionally Unsympathetic entry.

Its hard to think of a more unsympathetic character that has been painted as sympathetic.

Also there's alot of good relations Twinbraid can have with the pantheon, such as being allied to the Alliance deities and being enemies with monster deities like goblins, orcs and minotaurs.

  • Simon's feeling that Grace "used" and "deceived" him and downwards spiral into denial of his own flaws and desperation to make himself feel as if he was the sole victim of others' actions instead of an abuser has made him an ally in Tighten, who was once a regular creep nerd who wished to date a woman named Roxanne Ritchie and was given superpowers by Megamind (who lied that he was a superpowered being from space) to turn into a superhero but after being rejected for his attitude and then discovering that Megamind was the one who gave him his powers he pettily lashed out in anger by becoming a supervillain bent on taking over his city and the world by force. Tighten pities Simon for how he was "unfairly treated" by life and has given support to him.

Simon and Tighten/Hal Stewart really have nothing in common.

The writers have stated many times, Simon is a intentionally Tragic character and he was literally kidnapped by a train when he was all but 10 years old, abandoned to die by his only Parental Substitute, and then became the first member inducted into a cult where he along with the cult leader, became Child Soldiers.

This entry doesn't fit and again, Hal and Simon don't really connect at all. Hal is more Romantic entitlement, Simon is more of a case of the Big Bad (Grace) starting to get second thoughts after a long life of villainy, whilst their initially Undying Loyal Dragon, sticks with the original mission.

Wyald is very specifically an Evil Human Being, there's a reason, the manga specifically focuses on pre-femto Griffith looking at Wyald's very human corpse after he dies.

Goblins in Goblin Slayer are creations of a God of Evil from what I remember.

If anything, Guts would compare them to Berserk Trolls which have all their traits and are also creations of a God of Evil which are Made of Evil.

As for why Cairne would fit God of Minotaurs, he was hugely influential in the plot of Warcraft and Tauren are probably the famous minotaurs in gaming.

Cairne is also easily the most popular and prominent Tauren character in Warcraft.

Edited by Monsund on Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:25:24 AM

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#202197: Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:35:46 PM

[up] Sorry man, I got Abby from The Last of Us Part II for Unintentionally Unsympathetic.

Time to explore the world!
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#202198: Sep 23rd 2023 at 4:13:08 PM

[up]The last time you suggested the character, no one gave a thumbs up. In fact, the most notable response after that suggestion was that Crimson suggested if we had to wait 6+ months because of the controversy and everyone agreed with that. I believe Unintentionally Sympathetic is still up for discussion for worthy candidates, especially if people will start using their undiscussed and unapproved suggestions to get their ideas fast without a second thought.

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
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uwu
#202199: Sep 23rd 2023 at 5:05:17 PM

Bazzard proposed Abby here, to which it seems that some people were OK with giving her that trope (Migami approved of the idea while Crimson and Wikia also thought she'd fit it well), though others like Hamana and Mariovssonic abstained and Grandmaster disapproved of it (mainly due to it being YMMV and thinking it was too soon to nominate her for that trope). It still seems that more approved of it than disapproved, hence the reservation.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Sep 23rd 2023 at 5:57:02 AM

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#202200: Sep 23rd 2023 at 5:12:26 PM

I'll go with any decision the thread makes, though perhaps if Abby ascends, Twinbraid can be her High Priest.

Is everyone ok with the Simon Laurent cut and Berserk rewrite?

  • Guts was at one of his darkest points fighting her, so the least Rosine wants is fighting "Guts, but on steroids". And what's the first name that pops up in her head? The Doomslayer. Also, while it's not indictment against Guts or Rosine's abilities, the Doomslayer is used to fighting worse demons than her. Initially Rosine was also worried that the Goblin Slayer might feel she needs to be eliminated, but he's neutral on her; his hatred is laser-focused on goblins, who are basically the trolls of his 'verse. Rosine was familiar with monsters that prey on people, so she couldn't help but applaud him. It's possible they hit too close to home since her mother was raped during a war raid, and her father abused her because he couldn't be certain of his paternity.

Here's the Berserk rewrite.

Edited by Monsund on Sep 23rd 2023 at 5:14:11 AM


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