Subpages cleanup: Complete Monster

Gonna need to think on the Bruce.

@ Ravok: I was actually under the impression that The Bruce grafted the mask onto his own face. As for shouting at The Joker to kill him, I did mention that—and I'm honestly not sure either. One could see it as a redeeming trait that he's holding true to his own convictions, but a Thanatos Gambit is not in itself redeeming. Just compare that minister whackjob from the latest Purge movie to someone like John Doe from Seven.

Whether he's the first Bruce? We don't really know that either. There's evidence pointing both ways. Certainly he knew the original (good) Batman, at least if we buy his word. I'm just having trouble buying that he's such a slave to the system when the first thing the Joker does is to make plans to abolish it.

edited 22nd Jan '17 1:43:00 PM by Morgenthaler

Alright, so before I get to my next candidates, I've got a Seagal villain to knock off the block first. Meet Screwface from Marked for Death.

Who is Screwface? What has he done?

Screwface is a Jamaican drug lord who lords over a posse based in America. Screwface is something of an enigmatic myth... his minions all fear and practically revere him and he's hinted to have supernatural powers. Screwface brutally murders anyone who he feels crosses him and he's first introduced dealing with a local crime boss named Tito. Tito's angry that Screwface's posse is enroaching in his territory, and when Screwface moves forward with a proposition that leaves Tito with only 20% of his earnings, Tito seeks help with a sorcerer woman who seems to place a sort of curse on Screwface, causing him to wake up in a panic the following morning. In response, Screwface has his goons shoot up an occupied bar and kill Tito's men, before he captures the woman and ties her up as a sort of ritualistic sacrifice. Screwface tells her to see Tito in hell, and fatally stabs her.

Now, unfortunately for Screwface, retired cop John Hatcher happened to be on the scene and has one of Screwface's men arrested and he uncovers strange markings around the crime scene. In response to this, Screwface gives a booming speech to his goons and marks Hatcher and his entire family for death (theeeere's the title), and does a drive-by shooting on their house which ends up leaving Hatcher's young niece Tracy mortally wounded and in critical condition. Predictably, Hatcher gets pissed and interrogates Screwface's supplier, killing him in the process. One of Screwface's men attacks Hatcher and is overpowered in the process. When Hatcher tries to interrogate him, the goon - realizing Screwface will give him a death "a thousand times worse" than anything Hatcher could do to him - literally commits suicide and jumps out of the building rather than confront his boss over the failure. Screwface, meanwhile, flies into another fury when he learns Hatcher's acting against him, viciously beating one and vowing Hatcher's entire family will die for the transgression against him. Screwface proceeds to break into Hatcher's home, confronts his sister, ties her down, and strips her shirt off before giving her his "mark of death," although he's stopped short of actually killing her by Hatcher's timely arrival.

Hatcher continues to come into conflict after conflict with Screwface's henchmen, and Screwface tries one direct attempt on his life by pinning his car down with two pieces of heavy machinery and lighting the car on fire with Hatcher still inside as he struggles to get out, leaving him to burn to death. After Hatcher escapes this, Screwface flees back to Jamaica and, with the help of a friend named Charles, Hatcher pursues. Hatcher gains a tip from a woman - who's sister Screwface murdered after a shipment gone wrong - that the secret to Screwface's power is that he has "two heads and four eyes." Hatcher pursues Screwface to a gathering he's having, shoots through his men, and, although Screwface briefly overpowers him, has him beaten and tied up, and tries to do the whole "stabbing sacrifice" thing he did earlier with the woman and nearly did to Hatcher's sister, Hatcher breaks free. He engages in a brief fight with the drug lord and finally ends him by wrenching his sword out of his grip and decapitating him. All is well, the day is saved, Hatcher shows Screwface's head to his goons...

...and then his twin brother comes out from behind and kills Charles. Whoops. One more fight scene ensues before Hatcher breaks the brother's spine and sends him toppling down to his doom.

Any mitigating factors?

This is a Seagal movie. Would you expect the villain to be subtle or redeemable in any way? The only thing that comes close to concerning is that his twin brother does seem to be genuinely angry Screwface #1 is dead. Obviously, he doesn't count due to that and a lack of screentime. But Screwface #1 - the one who commits the deeds to be here - literally never even mentions his brother. There's no onscreen love here whatsoever and nothing to technically disqualify him.

Conclusion?

Not the strongest keep I've seen, but with what we see and hear, Screwface is still a fairly solid qualifier... Seagal does not believe in subtlety with these villains and I expect to have even more up in the future.

Thoughts?

edited 22nd Jan '17 3:33:30 PM by Scraggle

Screwface, I guess? Only because he doesn't care/plans to kill the kid. Otherwise seems like a generic action baddie.

Yeah, the niece Screwface wounds in the drive-by shooting is like... ten, maybe. The last we see of her, she's mortally wounded and "fighting to live."

Is Screwface even aware of the niece, or does he just not care?

Very much aware, I think... he's got a particular hit out for Hatcher's entire family, so?

Abattoir next week, maybe.

• Worm Ouroboros: The titular Ouroboros, a twin-headed snake that can encircle the world, begins the haunt by forcibly exiting the body of the haunt revealer, killing them by splitting their body into two from the inside. After exiting the explorer's body, Ouroboros feels a strong desire to show off its strength, and decides to grow larger and more powerful so it can encircle the house and destroy it without any regard for the explorers who are still inside. If Ouroboros wins, after destroying and eating the house and the explorers inside it, Ouroboros plans on continuing its rampage of destruction until it grows large enough to deliver the same fate to Earth and, eventually, the entire universe as it did to the house.
• Akihiro Kurata is the bespectacled former assistant of Spencer Daimon, whom he secretly hated. During the expedition to the Digital World, after being frightened by several Digimon, he developed an obsessive hatred of them. Claiming that they are a threat to the world to justify his actions, he creates the artificial Digimon Gizumon, which permanently deletes a Digimon. Sending a group with the Gizumon, they murder hundreds of innocent Digimon in an attempt at their extinction. Upon finding the Digi-Egg of Belphemon, Kurata then decides to take control of the beast in order to make himself the ruler of both worlds. Pretending to be an ally to the heroes, he reveals his true colors with murdering Merukimon, mocking the latter's hope for peace between humans and Digimon among his grieving loved ones. Along this, he hires three criminals and turns them into "Bio-Hybrids" to help him with his plan to continue his murder spree, using the deceased's data to resurrect Belphemon. He also kidnap's Thomas's little sister, promising to "cure" her by making her another Bio-Hybrid while having a bomb strapped to her to make Thomas work for him. In the climax of his plans, he merges with Belphemon and begins making dimensional tears that threaten to destroy the world. In his last attempt at vengeance, he sets off detonations meant to destroy the Digital World, only to open a hole big enough for the two worlds to collide. His last moments are screaming for help as his own actions cause him to be vaporized. A cowardly sociopath guilty of attempting genocide and world destruction, Kurata may not have been a Digimon, but made up for it by being a cruel, irredeemable excuse of a human.
• Heartstopper (2006): Jonathan Chambers is a devil-worshiping Serial Killer known for ripping out the hearts of his victims, having done this to a number of people before being detained by the police. Upon being sentenced to death by electric chair he makes a Deal with the Devil granting him supernatural powers, making him nearly impossible to kill. In an effort to lure out Sara Wexler, who he plans to pull a Grand Theft Me on to gain Complete Immortality, he goes on a killing spree in the hospital, ripping the heart out of nearly every doctor, nurse, and patient in the facility. He also expresses a desire to feast on a nurse and Walter's hearts once he has Sara's body.
• Revenge Of The Green Dragons (2014):
  • Ah Chung serves as the leader of the Green Dragons gang on the behalf of Paul Wong. Upon recruiting Sonny and Steven to his gang when they were only kids he was responsible for turning them into his loyal hitmen and would order them to kill anyone he wants, starting with a group of people that owes him money. Years later, his gang would cause many deaths of many rival gang members as well as innocents and even has one gang member tortured to death , including pulling out his teeth, cutting off his fingers, and finally shooting him in the head. Upon hearing that Steven's uncle acquiring some money, he decides to rob his place and commands his dragon Chicken Wing to rape the uncle's daughter while he forces him to watch . This act causes Steven to have a mental breakdown and go on a killing spree on his own, causing a death of a white man. When Ah Chung learned of this he was upset, but only because of how much unwanted attention it will bring from the cop and barely got away, where afterwards he proceeds to stab Steven to death before putting his corpse in a dumpster.
  • Chicken Wing serves as The Dragon to the aforementioned Ah Chung, but managed to stand out on his own. First establishing himself by beating a innocent man in a bathroom, when a young Steven stumbles across this, he forces Steven to defecate on the man before he kills him. He then takes the boy to brutally beat up and was about to castrate him before Ah Chung and Paul Wong show up to recruit Steven. He also partook in the gang's mass killings of rivals and innocents and was actually the one who gave Ah Chung the idea for the rival gang member's slow and torturous death. He later helps Ah Chung rob Steven's uncle and gladly follows his boss's order to rape his daughter, and also rapes his wife by his own choice. He later takes their panties as trophies and proudly shows them to Steven, much to the latter's disgust. After Steven nearly got them arrested, Chicken Wing forces Steven's brother, Sonny, to watch as Ah Chung brutally executes Steven.
• Bravely Default series: Many of Luxendarc's villains, including those from the Duchy of Eternia, are rounded and have sympathetic traits. Alas, this is not the case for the following:
  • Dr. Qada, the Salve-Maker of Eternia's Black Blades in the first game, is the Duchy's resident Mad Scientist and an obese psychopath who stands leagues over his more sympathetic compatriots. An utter sociopath willing to sacrifice leagues of Eternia's own men against the order of his superior Kamiizumi in the name of research, Qada's experiments with the horrific Toxic Mist—tales of which are relayed through the ghosts of his victims—killed thousands of men—including some of Eternia's own swordbearers—and ruined parts of the land itself, with Qada studying the effects of his work on the infected corpses. Qada, as The Medic, also helped to heal both sides of Luxendarc's conflict, purely so he could use their healthy bodies as test subjects for further research. Qada's ambition extends to planning to wipe out the Council of Six with his equally-treacherous compatriots Fiore DeRosa and Erutus Profiteur to take over Eternia themselves, with Qada planning to unleash a fatal plague through Luxendarc and being completely unsure as to whether he wants to be remembered as a gloried hero for providing an antidote or a vile, disease-spreading madman. The vilest of the Eternian forces in every world he's seen in, Qada's own superior Kamiizumi is reviled by him and kills Qada himself in one of the parallel worlds as a testament to Qada's endless, amoral thirst for knowledge, no matter the cost.
  • Airy, also from the first game and fittingly titled "the Evil One", is the Piercer of Boundaries and chief servant to the evil god Ouroboros. Posing as a helpful fairy ally to the Warriors of Light in their mission to reactivate Luxendarc's corrupted crystals, Airy is in truth behind the opening of the Great Chasm and the wide swath of destruction it caused throughout Luxendarc, traveling from world to world and manipulating the heroes into purifying the elemental crystals and thus linking those worlds to Ouroboros. Airy takes sadistic delight in manipulating the heroes like puppets and butchers them after she is done with them, having repeated the process with tens of thousands of worlds over a course of millions of years. Once she's ousted as Ouroboros's servant, Airy, in the false ending, quickly slaughters the party while taunting them about how she's manipulated them. Forced to rest in the Dark Aurora after being cheated of purifying the last crystal, Airy, once confronted by the revived heroes, decides to torture the warriors of light for five thousand years to bide her time, and pretends to have been possessed purely so she can shatter an already despondent Agnes's will further by revealing she is exactly the remorseless demon she appears to be. A deceitful monster under her seemingly innocent, childish exterior, Airy's singular wish was to allow her master access to the Celestial Realm in order to destroy all reality.
  • Ouroboros himself, the God of Destruction in the first game, plots to wreak havoc on the Celestial Realm, and is responsible for every catastrophic event in the game's plot. Unseen until the game's true ending, Ouroboros pulls the strings behind his servant Airy and oversees her link the tens of thousands of worlds that comprise reality in a bid to break the boundaries between them, utterly destroy all of them, and bring chaos to the Celestial Realm to recreate reality in his own twisted image. Ouroboros devours his pleading servant once he finally tires of her, dismissively compares her to cattle, and, in the final battle, obliterates world after world for the sheer purpose of breaking the heroes' spirits, nothing less than utterly gleeful once they beg him to stop. Ouroboros, motivated solely by boredom and a lust for chaos, strife, hatred, and suffering—things he considers exciting—goes down as the greatest evil in the story.
  • Bravely Second: End Layer: Lord Providence, the master of the devious fairy Anne, is the ruler of the Celestial Realm and the source of all the game's misfortune. After his takeover of the Celestial Realm, Providence nourishes himself off the utter despair of a woman named Vega, feeding off her depression over being separated from her lover Altair in the Celestial Realm. In a bid to completely break Vega, Providence corrupts Vega's positive memories and turns them into the nightmarish Ba'al and orchestrates a scheme to have his servant Anne remove the Moon from Luxendarc, planning to allowing the Ba'al to ravage Luxendarc before he plunges the world into despair and annihilates it—all for the purpose of permanently breaking Vega's lingering hope so he can feast off her despair forever. Having Anne first remove Airy and Ouroboros as a threat to his plans, Providence oversees Anne's complex manipulations and gives her the order to utilize the Ba'al Diamante to raze Luxendarc in the second timeline. After Anne's defeat and Altair is reunited with Vega through the will of the heroes, Providence personally confronts the heroes and continues to leech off Vega's lingering despair to empower himself, cruelly stating that obliterating Luxendarc would be so pointlessly absurd—something he considers delightful. In the final battle, Providence directly addresses the player themselves, and turns the game against their control in an attempt to delete their save file. A nightmarishly callous sadist of a god, Providence's plans don't necessarily entail the catastrophic damage that Ouroboros does, but makes up through the sheer pointless cruelty of his plot.
• Perdition: Gomadi is a tyrannical, godlike android built by humans After the End in an effort to neutralize the defective androids that had been driving their creators towards the brink of extinction. Their plan worked, but Gomadi had a will of his own. In addition to stripping the androids of their free will, he began to slaughter them, by way of his mindless Executioners, and then harvest their energy. Somewhere within this time period, he severed his gentler half from himself and buried it far beneath the Earth. This gentler half became Tanas, who forged his own insidious plans to defeat Gomadi. By the events of Perdition, he sent the protagonist, a sentient android named Eve, on a quest to kill Tanas and "cure" her of her sentience. During her journey, Gomadi belittles Eve and repeatedly orders her to commit suicide for his own amusement, rewarding her with safety from his Executioners in return. After Eve emerges from the abyss for the second time, he orders her to kill her fellow sentient androids.
• I Dared My Best Friend to Ruin My Life: David King, the titular "best friend", is a sadistic psychopath dead-set on destroying the life of Zander Smith. During an extended period of boredom, David dares Zander to try to ruin his life. Zander, thinking that David is merely proposing a prank war, accepts and challenges David to try to ruin his in return. David, however, has other ideas. Initially, David works behind the scenes doing things like getting Zander fired from his job, hacking his social media profiles, and stealing his identity to ruin his finances. However, he is dissatisfied with Zander's comparatively tamer attempts at retaliation and decides that he needs "motivation." To this end, he has Zander's girlfriend kidnapped and threatens to have her killed if Zander does not participate in their "game." He breaks into Zander's house, strangles one of the other residents to death, then tries to pin the crime on Zander. He additionally burns down his own house, killing his mother, in another effort to frame Zander. Realizing that he'll end up getting bored again if Zander actually goes to prison for the crimes he's been framed for, David assists him in escaping from police custody by murdering two cops. During Zander and David's final confrontation, David without hesitation casually shoots and kills his own accomplice for no reason, and then attempts to do the same to Zander's girlfriend seemingly just to spite Zander. As Zander himself concludes, David is an unfeeling sociopath who does things to hurt others simply for cheap thrills.

• Great Professor Bias is the prime example of corrupters in the franchise. Having corrupted three geniuses before the show began, turning them into his students, Bias has them massacre the remaining geniuses at Academia. After kicking out Goh Omura and attempting to kill him, Bias recruits the aliens Guildos and Butchy. When Guildos tries to prove his superiority through Guild-zuno, it is revealed that both aliens are actually robots built by Bias to make the humans try harder, which he coldly tells Butchy to his face after Guildos's death. After Butchy is convinced to defect, Bias blows him up. Goh later realizes that Bias only wants his students for their brains, one of which will be used for the Giga Brain Wave, which will turn all humanity into Bias's slaves and make Bias immortal. After Yusuke saves the world from the Giga Brain Wave, Bias is reverted to a child who shifts his goals from conquest to destruction and mocks Megumi's kindness when she offers it before finally rejecting redemption.

• Buredoran/Brajira is a fallen Gosei Angel seeking to destroy and rebuild the world because he deems it corrupt. In the distant past he murdered his allies to become more powerful, after which he escapes into the future, where he manipulates an alien army into invading Earth and unseals monsters born of pollution he himself sealed away to do his dirty work. After his memory is erased and he is enslaved by Robogog, he develops a relationship with Metal Alice. Together, they restore his memory and destroy Robogog. As thanks, Brajira murders a wounded Metal Alice. Brainwashing Gosei Knight, Brajira tries to enact his plan by using massive drills to destroy the world. When fatally wounded, he decides to just destroy the planet anyway, even though he can’t make a new one. While claiming the world is corrupt, his attitude and omnicidal tendencies expose his noble motives as hollow and prove him to be just a madman with a god complex.

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:00:19 PM by ACW

Screwfave and the Bruce

@ACW: Kurata's "bestacled" should be "bespectacled".

Yes to Bruce and Screwface.

Whoops. Fixed.
Also, thoughts?

to Screwface.

I'll be honest, is it really necessary to cut anything? I mean I thought the issue was redundant links, not to many pages or what was on them.

Just realised I used the word "which" twice in quick succession in my Brajira write up.

Crap.

Ah, it's not a huge deal.

For Screwface... Hm, I guess I'll give an .

Fairly new to this so I'm not sure if a direct post here is best but... A very minor thing but I think Potholing The Dragon would work better for the part of Airy's entry under "chief servant" instead of Psycho Supporter. I see it's already gone through drafts so I'm not sure where else to put this.

Completely agreed there. Not sure why that's potholed to that to begin with.

Can't really agree with most of the suggestions for the subpages.

Screwface.

edited 22nd Jan '17 6:38:34 PM by AustinDR

Screwface.

Gonna say "no" to The Bruce. The implication that he may be a victim of a prior Bruce is too strong for me to ignore.

Yes to Screwface, abstaining on the Bruce.

I noticed X-Man had a bunch of unapproved C Ms:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/XMan

screwface

Nimble Jack, Mad Ra's, Dark Joker, hitler twins(really?),evil batman, The bruce, and screw face

Fixed Airy, and PP, I changed the "at which point" to "where".

What about Dr. Malcolm Bertruger from DOOM 3? He is literally devoid of any remorse for his actions, and, as you can see in the Lost Mission, the demonic invasion was INTENDED by Bertruger. He is even worse in the novel, where he wounds his assistant and leaves him to die once the invasion starts.

Latest hunt for unapproved entries:

Ather City

• Complete Monster: Sarah. First she kills one of her sons. Then she brainwashes an NUO sniper into doing exactly as she says, without her realising she was brainwashed. Then she goes and telepathically torments HER OTHER SON so much he ends up on the ground, crying, pleading for it to stop. Then it turns out she was addicted to her own telepathy and she was doing it for another high. The Moral Event Horizon has not only been crossed, it's been crossed several times.

Alleluia! The Devil's Carnival

• Complete Monster: God. He has Geraldine become his sex slave, and then gives her a Glasgow Grin when she wasn't smiling enough. He also sent the Agent into Hell knowing full well the he wouldn't be safe, and letting him know this by giving him the Filly and the Lapdog book.

Forever's End

• Complete Monster: Bijir and Hyuga. Bijir makes People Puppets out of anyone, and likes his work when orders are kill everyone. Hyuga backstabs anyone for fame/fortune even willing to try to kill Slade and Elizabeth.

Hope for the Heartless

• Complete Monster: Arawn, the Death Lord of Annuvin was — and is still — the only known creature that could surpass in cruelty the Horned King. Considering that the Horned King is considered by nearly everyone to be the greatest evil to have ever existed (and not without justification), that speaks volumes. Arawn turned the Horned King into the monster he's known as and attempted to conquer the world by trying to locate the Black Cauldron and use it in the same way as his apprentice attempted to before being defeated. When the Horned King's soul was trapped inside the Cauldron along with Arawn, the Death Lord tortured him just for the sake of making someone else suffer as much as he had in the Cauldron, regardless of their former master-apprentice relationship. Later Arawn targets Avalina for being the Horned King's only hope of not having to return to imprisonment and be further tortured by his former master. He torments the girl with horrific nightmares and nearly manages to break her bond with the Horned King by provoking the lich to speak ill of her when she's within earshot. Later he promises to resort to more drastic methods to get rid of Avalina.

Incognegro

• Complete Monster: Huey, a local Klansmen, is the most horrifying person in the book emphasized through his castration of lynch victims and casually presented his lynch victims' photos as someone would present holiday screenshots. This all made his possible lynching, thanks to a fake story pointing him as mixed-race undercover reporter truly a Karmic Death.

Mage: The Ascension

• Complete Monster: The Nephandi. The kindest versions of them are Omnicidal Maniacs, and they get significantly worse from there. Picture the worst crimes imaginable, and not only do the Nephandi make them worse with magick, their whole raison d'etre is to get other suckers to commit those crimes. The endgame? Either to make the world so utterly horrible that the end of the universe is a Mercy Kill...or to turn reality into Hell, and reign in it. Oh, and they're probably winning. The Nephandi are seriously bad news.

Maximum Carnage

• Complete Monster: Carnage. The other villains had varying degrees of humanizing qualities.

New Series Adventures Silhouette

• Complete Monster: Orestes Milton. He might not seem to be quite as bad when compared to Sutekh or Davros, but he still turns human beings into living weapons, which he claims is "utilizing their talents", tortures the Doctor, manipulates people, tries to destroy the entire city of London to "test" his new weapon, Rage, which he would've then released onto the rest of the world and is so bad that the Shadow Proclamation is after him! His Karmic Death as a result is incredibly satisfying.

Shattered Doll

• Complete Monster - Sandra really has no redeeming qualities by the end of the story. Killing countless zoners for food, tormenting someone she calls her friend all for an educational experience, and refusing to see things outside of her little bubble, it's hard to feel sorry for her when she gets her comeuppance.

Shenandoah

• Complete Monster:
  • The three men who murder James and rape and murder Anne, none of them hold any compunctions about what they do. Nor do any of them hesitate in going after and raping and murdering Anne.

Son of the Seven Kingdoms

• Complete Monster: Aside from the ones we get in canon—namely Joffrey Baratheon, Ramsay Snow, and Craster—we actually have a couple of others:
  • Viserys Targaryen is highly abusive towards his sister Daenerys, even stupidly threatening her and her unborn son in front of her tall, muscular husband and his men. After she humiliates him and has him thrown out of her husband's camp rather than kill him, Viserys repays her act of mercy by joining a malevolent cult and using their resources to orchestrate the deaths of his brother-in-law and unborn nephew, all while taking great delight in the prospect of killing Daenerys.
  • Ruma Camoran belongs to the bloodthirsty Mythic Dawn, a cult that worships the Daedric Prince of Destruction, Mehrunes Dagon. To further her deity's goals, she eagerly forces Daenerys to suffer a Magical Abortion, killing her unborn baby and nearly killing her as well, though not before sadistically revealing that it was Daenerys's own brother who asked her to do it, and even then, she takes great delight in the idea of killing an unborn baby.
  • Harkon Volkihar had his wife and daughter raped by Molag Bal to turn them into vampires, seeks the Elder Scroll because he wants his vampire clan to Take Over the World, has allied himself to the White Walkers, has brutally tortured Benjen Stark, killed his own wife when he discovered she conspired to prevent him from fulfilling that prophecy and now intends to kill his daughter because she is openly opposing his plans.
  • Alduin is the ruler of the White Walkers, and a deposed deity-like figure who once ruled over humanity. His reign was described by Farengar Secret-Fire as one of unspeakable cruelty, and when the humans finally rose up, many of his fellow dragons—themselves hardly angels—were so appalled by his malevolence that they switched sides and helped the humans take him down.

edited 23rd Jan '17 5:05:12 AM by Silverblade2