These are what we call the 'YMMV items.' Things that some people find in this work. We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way. This starts discussions in the trope lists, a thing we don't want. Please use the discussion page if you'd like to discuss any of these items.
Also Mario (and Luigi) himself: Mario is a ruthless One-Man Army killing anything in his path, not caring if his foes WANT to hurt him or not, captures countless lands, and basically waged a war against a rivaling kingdom with many casualties on their side, just to rescue a princess.
Although even the enemies who don't pursue Mario if he jumps over them (instead of on them) would still hurt him if they touched him, so it's not clear whether they don't want to hurt him or they do but they're incompetent.
And also, kidnapping another country's regent wouldn't signify an act of war?
As an addendum to the above, some argue that Mario is genuinely good, but a Heroic Comedic Sociopath. He genuinely wants to save Peach, but he has too much fun basically slaughtering the equivalent to entire armies (there's some actual canonical basis for this, notice how Mario tends to sound like he's having fun in some of his ingame sound bytes?).
Peach and Bowser have the 'kidnapping' thing going on to make money, since only Mario and Luigi can get coins out of those blocks.
Or Bowser's feelings toward Peach are actually mutual.
Or Peach has some sort of submissive fantasy and actually enjoys being kidnapped. Meanwhile Mario rescues her not out of love or heroism but because he's a thrill seeker.
Cracked had a lot of fun with the interpretation that Bowser is actually in love with Peach but bad at expressing it; Peach has conflicting feelings and notably never denies being the mother of Bowser Jr. when Bowser Jr. claims she is. Bowser is also a Well-Intentioned Extremist, who captures the Yoshis because they're an ecological menace (they eat anything), until he finds time to find a permanent solution to the crisis, due to the fact that he captures them, rather than killing them. He may also be the also the only person capable of ruling the land, as he has time to build, maintain and run seven castles simultaneously, manages to conquer and subdivide the lands into more effective zones, and find time to kidnap Peach. He essentally keeps trying to perform a Benevolent Alien Invasion but it keeps getting screwed up by Mario...by the way, where was he while Bowser was doing this anyway?
Waluigi. He was initially added to the cast because Wario needed a doubles partner for Mario Tennis, but he creates plenty of discussion, both serious and not so serious. His exact relationship with Wario remains unknown, and his mere presence has some weird implications regarding Mario, Luigi and Wario: Mario is the original, Luigi is a reflection of Mario (somewhat similar, but different in certain ways), Wario is also a reflection (Wario is Mario's Evil Counterpart). Waluigi is a reflection of a reflection.
Archive Panic: We are talking about a series that has been going strong since the early to mid 1980's, has spawned numerous main series games, and so many spinoffs and cameo appearances that it reaches triple digit territory. And that's not even counting the substantial amount of tie-in material, such as comic book appearances, the OVA and live action movie, and the DiC cartoon series. To say the least, trying to even collect all of the series, much less sit through all of it, is an exercise in futility.
Awesome Ego: Bowser is boastful and arrogant despite his repeated defeats from Mario. His fans however, agree he lives that, and when he doesn't fight Mario, he usually does.
Waluigi to a pretty big degree. Those who hate him say he is a ridiculous character with no reason or purpose to exist. Those who like him say that his ridiculousness and pointlessness is the very essence of his character. And it goes on and on.
Toadette: Lazy Distaff Counterpart to the already annoying Toad, or a great female alternative to Princess-type characters? The fanbase hasn't made up their collective mind on her.
Bowser Jr., too. Especially when it comes to comparisons between him and the Koopalings. Amplified when Word of God said the Koopalings are no longer considered to be Bowser's children.
At first: in the thirteen years since Bowser Junior's introduction, he's been in almost five times the amount of games as the koopalings and has developed some deep character traits and a sizeable fan base of his own, causing many Bowser Junior fans to call the Koopalings overrated.
Pauline is a mild case of this as there are those who wish Nintendo would finally let her have a bigger role in the games especially since she was Mario's original love interest while others don't simply care for her and argue that she just wouldn't fit in with the Mario series anymore. But at least Pauline still gets to occasionally appear in the Mario vs. Donkey Kong games.
Rosalina developed a case of this when she began appearing in many games, and it became very obvious after she became playable in 3D World- She's either considered a unique character who is a great addition to the franchise, or an overrated character who receives too much attention (with frequent comparisons to Lightning, another character who often gets this accusation) when others often considered note deserving, like Wario, could be getting it instead.
Peach is no stranger to this considering her flanderized ditzyness and constant kidnappings have grown tiresome for many and her lack of self-initiative in escaping hasn't garnered her much support. She has fans and fanboys however, particularly for her more competent spin-off portrayals and sweet nature, along with being rather pretty looking.
Toad is another example, as while cute and funny, there are many who find his voice annoying and complain about the species' utter worthlessness in protecting the Mushroom Kingdom.
Broken Base: Plenty to go around here such as which Mario games are better the 2D platformers or the 3D platformers. Was Super Paper Mario and/or Paper Mario: Sticker Star good changes to the series or should the series go back to being RPG games? Does the New Super Mario Brothers games honor the original games legacy or are they awful cash-in games that are barely any different from each-other? There are also other issues such as if you prefer the American or Japanese version of Super Mario Bros. 2 and both camps have their reasons why.
NOA's old storyline about the Mario series such as how Mario & Luigi are plumbers from Brooklyn who went to the Mushroom Kingdom via a Magic Pipe and that the Koopalings are Bowser's children. Plenty of these aspects were either toned down or retconned in which certain older fans have complained about this while younger fans either accepted it as Canon and/or mention that a lot of the things we heard about were just mistranslations and/or never brought up within the games themselves. But then again the series' storyline has been a somewhat divisive issue with fans in general see It's Not Supposed to Win Oscars below.
Cant Unhear It: Despite the competition some of them face from some older fans of the cartoons, all of the voices get this, but Mario's voice by Charles Martinet especially qualifies, considering most parodies of the series base their Mario voices on his own.
Crazy Awesome: The series (and most characters) as a whole. Especially Wario, Waluigi and Bowser
Similarly, Mario can also be compared to Popeye since Mario, Pauline and Donkey Kong (and later on, Mario, Peach and Bowser) share a character dynamic similar to Popeye, Olive Oyl and Bluto. Mario's first game was originally supposed to star Popeye.
To much of the fandom, the Word of God confirming that the Koopalings are not related to Bowser was received poorly.
Others, however, point out that the Koopalings have never done anything in game that would suggest they were related to Bowser— including never even being in the same screen as him until the ending in New Super Mario Bros Wii.
In the same vein, the Word of God announcing that Toads are not mushrooms and genderless along with Toad and Toadette not considered to be related. (Although the latter is generally good to people who ship them together.)
Demonic Spiders: The series has two main ones: Hammer Bros., and Lakitu. Hammer Bros. because they lob a barrage of hammers at you, which is jarring since you mostly jump over most hazards. Lakitu because they mostly float out of your reach and they throw the already hard-to-kill Spinies at you.
Draco in Leather Pants: Bowser. Despite his redeeming qualities, he has committed evil plenty of times and has failed to learn from any of his defeats. Several of the other villains as well, Count Bleck most of all.
Evil Is Cool/Love to Hate: Bowser is one of the most beloved and classic video game villains of all time. He's also one of the few Mario characters that has a fleshed-out personality. Even though he suffers Villain Decay intermittently, he is able to make up for it by reversing it in games like Super Mario Galaxy.
Fan Nickname: The Gold and Blue Toads in New Super Mario Bros. Wii have been given the names Wolley and Yvan, respectively (pronounced "Wally" and "Ivan"). Less popular names given by the development team are Alla-Gold and Bucken-Berry.
Fridge Logic: The manual for Super Mario Bros. 1 stated that Bowser used his dark magic to turn the people of the Mushroom Kingdom into trees and bricks, and Mario spent the entire game destroying the latter. So when you think about it, Mario is actually a mass murderer.
It's never said that Mario hitting the bricks destroyed them (other than what the 8-bit pixels seemed to represent); if anything, once the bricks were broken, the people were probably returned to normal (that's the way it goes in these types of games anyway). Besides, this was never mentioned anywhere outside of the instruction manual for that one game, which is suspect as the blocks show up in almost every Mario game afterwards.
Or, the fact that it's specifically mentioned that the people were turned into bricks and not blocks could be significant. Hitting and breaking the blocks just detaches the individual bricks from each other without necessarily destroying them.
Another example of fridge logic: how do the many enemies that walk in a straight line and never change direction until they bump into something (such as the Koopas described under "Fridge Horror" below) get between the two objects they're walking back and forth between in the first place if they can't walk or jump over them? Does Bowser really go to all the trouble of finding countless pairs of immovable objects and putting minions between them before kidnapping Peach? How do the authorities not start to notice this pattern and take precautions to protect Peach whenever Bowser starts dropping minions between immovable objects?
Probably the most overlooked example of this trope is the fact that the Super Mushroom would technically kill Mario if not for its beneficial result. Some brightly colored mushrooms can be poisonous.
What about what happens to the coins you have that you collected when the brick blocks turn into coins when you hit the P Switch? If it turns all coins into bricks and all bricks into coins, what happens to the coins you carry?
The idea of Mario & Luigi being born and raised in the Mushroom Kingdom instead of Brooklyn, New York has also had some folks complaining. Namely why do Mario and Luigi have their Italian accents if they were from the Mushroom Kingdom instead of New York? One could easily see Mario and Luigi's accent as The Artifact despite how it makes their current origin story somewhat confusing the idea of Mario and Luigi having Italian accents is just too iconic for Nintendo to remove.
Good Bad Bugs: The "small fiery Mario" glitch. If you hit Bowser and the axe at the same time at the end of an x-4 level, you'll start the next level as a large Mario who dies in one hit. Take a mushroom and you become small; take a Fire Flower and you become small and fiery.
Also, a related glitch: if you're small and you hit Bowser and the axe at the same time, Mario dies but the level still registers as a win, leaving Toad saying his "Thank You Mario/Luigi!" line to a blank screen.
There's also the fact that the correct pipes in the World 8-4 Pipe Maze will have the Pirahna Plants inhabiting them suddenly disappear as you approach them. This significantly reduces the potential aggravation of guessing the correct pipe.
If you jump on the axe just as the timer reaches zero in any castle level, you'll get a huge bonus of 50,000 points. This is because of a bug in which the timer rolls over to 999 and keeps counting down from there. However, this does not work in the NES version, since it doesn't give you a time bonus for castles. This can only be done in the "Vs." (arcade) and Super Mario All-Stars versionsnote not to mention most, if not all versions of the Japanese Super Mario Bros. 2.
Hype Backlash / It's Popular, Now It Sucks: Given that the series is one of the most successful video game franchises on the planet, some people are put off by this. Some older fans view later games, particularly the New Super Mario Bros. games as suffering this.
Incest Yay Shipping: Toad and Toadette, though it seems that it's because people don't know that the two are brother and sister. It doesn't help that Nintendo can't make up their minds about whether they're siblings, friends, dating, or what.
It's Not Supposed to Win Oscars: In recent years anyone who complains about the series' Excuse Plot nature and fans will often bring up on how you're not supposed to care about plot in the series. However, some fans will bring up how the Mario RPG games often had storylines a bit more than "Mario saves the Princess from Bowser in Mushroom Kingdom". Others side with Shigeru Miyamoto and his Word of God on how the series is always more about gameplay than anything.
LGBT Fanbase: Bowser is incredibly popular with the gay fandom, most notably with furries.
My Real Daddy: While nobody will deny how Shigeru Miyamoto was very influential to the series' development but Nintendo of America shaped up the setting of the Mario series of how its known today. Such as the setting of the games such as Mario & Luigi being plumbers from Brooklyn who got to the Mushroom Kingdom via Magic Pipe in Super Mario Bros.. to character names such as Mario, Pauline, Luigi, the Koopalings and more in fact the idea of the Koopalings being Bowser's children was NOA's idea. However due to certain actions from Shigeru such as him saying that the Koopalings are no longer Bowser's kids and what happened to Paper Mario: Sticker Star have caused plenty of Internet Backdraft.
"Hi, I'm Daisy!" It doesn't help that while a lot of Mario fans don't play the spinoff games all that much, they do play Mario Kart games, and for many Mario Kart: Double Dash was their first impression of Daisy.
Peach's reaction to Bowser Jr telling her that she's his mommy in Super Mario Sunshine. Many people (especially detractors of the character) cite it as one of the most defining examples of the princess being a complete ditz, and ignore the instances of her being portrayed competently in the series (particularly in the RPGs).
Peach getting kidnapped constantly is this in and out of the games.
Now that Word of God has stated that the Koopalings are no longer considered Bowser's children and only Bowser Jr. is his true child, the hate toward him is quickly returning.
In an unusual twist of fate, Bowser Jr. was passed over for Mario Kart 8, just as the Koopalings make their first ever playable appearance in the very same game. In an unusual twist, now it's the koopalings that have become the Replacement Scrappys for Bowser Jr. fans.
Super Mario Galaxy 2 has Lubba become this for Rosalina.
Luigi's ended up playing the villain (usually after deciding he's tired of playing second banana to Mario) in a number of fanworks, Super Mario World ROM hacks in particular.
Or alternatively Mario, whether it's out of him being tired of the status quo or straight up villainization, recieves this a lot.
Rooting for the Empire: Bowser is so damned likable and fun that many players find themselves wanting him to win out over the Mario Bros for once. Look at the top of the page and see how much Fanon and interpretations are about Bowser being the good guy. This is even more prominent during his Jerkass Woobie moments. Bowser's Inside Story seems to be a shout out for such players, since it puts Bowser in the limelight.
Daisy for some. Aside from the fact she technically only uses the line in a few games, her "Hi, I'm Daisy!" quote has become something of an online meme for her character. This is also regardless of the fact that Mario characters are all known for shouting annoying one-liners, so it's likely a case of bandwagon.
Her Baby counterpart takes it Up to Eleven in annoyance. If only because there has never been a Baby version of her, and just putting her again in the game makes it worse. Being there for a simple counterpart to Baby Peach doesn't help matters either.
Pretty much all the Baby characters could count at some point due to their crying. Some fans also accuse them of "getting in over" other, more original characters such as those from the RPGs when it comes to the roster of the Kart games.
Pauline has also been considered to be a case of this over the years as unlike Mario and Donkey Kong she never got her own game series. Not only do certain fans wish she appeared more often in the game titles, but some even ship her with Mario (in which they often point out Nintendo never did confirm whether if Mario and Peach are an Official Couple or not.)
In-Universe, Luigi isn't as popular or as well received as Mario is, leading to a bit of a "second banana" complex. However, he's really popular among the fanbase.
Waluigi isn't really well-liked In-Universe either, but a sizeable portion of the fanbase genuinely likes him. Mostly through Memetic Mutation.
Vanilla Protagonist: Mario was designed to be an extremely accessible character who can fit any role. He himself does not have too much personality other than cheerfulness, but it's the colorful world and challenges he inhabits that provides the true meat of the series.
Villain Decay: Bowser tends to go back and forth with this to a nearly unprecedented degree; though he's usually a genuine threat in the 'core' games (ranging from downright silly plots to accidentally destroying reality after nearly conquering it). In spinoffs, though, he's typically little more than a comic-relief nuisance, a reluctant ally, or even a near Woobie level Butt Monkey as in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga.
Broken Base: A Horrific In Name OnlyInk Stain Adaptation or am amusing Pragmatic Adaptation of a game series that never had much of plot to begin with? Fans of the movie often point out how the movie had to do a considerably different story often in order to somehow make a live action Mario Bros movie. While haters often deemed this to be a horribly inaccurate movie that tried to cash in on the series' popularity in which some point out that the movie could've been more accurate if it were animated.
"Somewhere My Love", the song Mario and Luigi trick the Goombas into dancing to... La, la, LA LA....
"Walk the Dinosaur".
Foe Yay: It's possible to see some between Lena and Daisy.
Funny Moments: Mario and Luigi are chained as they get their picture taken, when they mistake the cameras for guns.
Mario: Are we dead?
In addition, the dancing Goombas can also be seen as one of the few intentionally funny moments.
Ham and Cheese: Dennis Hopper's acting is okay in some scenes, but in others, he's clearly having fun overacting and taking his role not at all seriously.
Harsher in Hindsight: The two towers that dominate Koopa's Manhattan-inspired city, one of which looks half-destroyed (actually, it's not finished construction yet, but the visual effect is the same), and the other of which has a glowing stylized "K" on the side that looks like, depending on how you see it, either an explosion or a gaping hole.
Even worse in the climax when the dimensions begin to merge, including a shot which can visually can be described as the World Trade Center disintegrating.
Special Effect Failure: Amongst all the revolutionary visuals and complicated animatronics for Yoshi and the Goombas, the devolved King Koopa puppet looks like an escapee from a bad episode of The Muppet Show.
Squick: The fungus, in-universe. Mario in particular is constantly grossed out by it.
Vindicated by History: It seems that audiences are warming up to this movie. Probably because looking back, it still kept the basic plot of a Mario game, but with a few changes, or simply for the So Bad, It's Good factor.
Though if Reviews Are The Gospel remains in play, there is likely a large contingent that will continue to avert this, given the Nostalgia Critic's intense panning of the film. (However, even he admitted that the film was merely enjoyably silly rather than genuinely awful.)
Visual Effects of Awesome: Much like Jurassic Park, this film had to literally invent new technology to make much of its visual effects look as realistic as they do. Unfortunately, Jurassic Park's effects were a much more explicit focus, so it gets more attention for its influence on the industry.
Daisy appearing in the sand.
Yoshi. For an animatronic puppet, it looks like it just stepped out of a time portal to the Jurassic Era.