History YMMV / SuperMarioBros

7th May '18 9:53:50 PM MegaMarioMan
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* ArchivePanic: This is a series that has been going strong since the early to mid 1980's, has spawned numerous main series games, and so many spinoffs and cameo appearances that it reaches ''triple digit territory''. And that's not even counting the substantial amount of tie-in material, such as many comic book appearances, several OVA, a long-running manga, a live action movie, and the [=DiC=] cartoon series. To say the least, trying to even ''collect'' all of the series, much less sit through all of it, is an exercise in futility.

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* ArchivePanic: This is a series that has been going strong since the early to mid 1980's, has spawned numerous main series games, and so many spinoffs and cameo appearances that it reaches ''triple digit territory''. And that's not even counting the substantial amount of tie-in material, such as many comic book appearances, several OVA, a long-running manga, a live action movie, and the ''three'' [=DiC=] cartoon series. To say the least, trying to even ''collect'' all of the series, much less sit through all of it, is an exercise in futility.
2nd May '18 10:56:42 AM HeyFella
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[http://www.mariowiki.com/Big_Bertha_%28film_character%29 Big Bertha]], the bouncer.

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[[http://www.mariowiki.com/Big_Bertha_%28film_character%29 Big Bertha]], the bouncer.
2nd May '18 9:58:19 AM Gorgonoble
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** The Bob-Omb, despite being an object. Probably for it's cute look and being arguably the most accurate thing in the movie.


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* MemeticMutation: There's a small one in the Bob-Omb being the most faithful thing to the games.
29th Apr '18 7:31:52 PM HarpieSiren
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** If a ''Mario'' game gets mixed or lukewarm reception, fans tend to accuse it of pandering to young children at the expense of older fans; whether or not these claims are true, such criticisms usually arise from [[ItsEasySoItSucks overly easy gameplay]], a strong TastesLikeDiabetes aspect, or general shallowness. This sentiment was very prominent during the [=3DS/Wii U=] DorkAge, with frequent accusations of the series being "dumbed down" to appeal to the most casual fans (a group that child ''Mario'' fans are frequently lumped into).

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** If a ''Mario'' game gets mixed or lukewarm reception, fans tend to accuse it of pandering to young children at the expense of older fans; whether or not these claims are true, such criticisms usually arise from [[ItsEasySoItSucks overly easy gameplay]], a strong TastesLikeDiabetes aspect, or general shallowness. This sentiment was very prominent during the [=3DS/Wii U=] DorkAge, era, with frequent accusations of the series being "dumbed down" to appeal to the most casual fans (a group that child ''Mario'' fans are frequently lumped into).



* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Nintendo Switch era seems intent on fixing the problems that caused a DorkAge for the 3DS and Wii U era. All accusations of a lack of creativity were banished with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'', the [=RPGs=] got a bone thrown at them with ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle'' having tight, well thought out and new gameplay plus a focus on humour the [=RPGs=] are known for while ''[[VideoGame/MarioTennis Mario Tennis Aces]]'' avoided the problems ''Ultra Smash'' faced with new assets, gameplay and a story mode.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Nintendo Switch era seems intent on fixing the problems that caused a DorkAge for plagued the 3DS and Wii U era. All accusations of a lack of creativity were banished with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'', the [=RPGs=] got a bone thrown at them with ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle'' having tight, well thought out and new gameplay plus a focus on humour the [=RPGs=] are known for while ''[[VideoGame/MarioTennis Mario Tennis Aces]]'' avoided the problems ''Ultra Smash'' faced with new assets, gameplay and a story mode.



* FleetingDemographicRule: {{Defied|trope}}. Most major ''Mario'' releases are aimed towards all demographics, including kids and families, casual adult players who remember the series from childhood, and longtime fans. Each game is designed with simple core gameplay for new players, and more complex bonus levels and extras for seasoned gamers. While children are easily attracted to ''Mario'', the franchise has to overcome the AnimationAgeGhetto with each game and therefore tries to appeal to adults in new and unique ways. Some, however, accuse the ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' sequels and ''[=3DS/Wii U=]'' DorkAge of playing this trope straight, with the ''NSMB'' games and their derivatives being aimed at two fleeting demographics in particular (children and the most casual adult fans) while ignoring longtime, consistent fans of the series.

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* FleetingDemographicRule: {{Defied|trope}}. Most major ''Mario'' releases are aimed towards all demographics, including kids and families, casual adult players who remember the series from childhood, and longtime fans. Each game is designed with simple core gameplay for new players, and more complex bonus levels and extras for seasoned gamers. While children are easily attracted to ''Mario'', the franchise has to overcome the AnimationAgeGhetto with each game and therefore tries to appeal to adults in new and unique ways. Some, however, accuse the ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' sequels and other games in the ''[=3DS/Wii U=]'' DorkAge era of playing this trope straight, with the ''NSMB'' games and their derivatives being aimed at two fleeting demographics in particular (children and the most casual adult fans) while ignoring longtime, consistent fans of the series.



** Given that the series is one of the most successful video game franchises on the planet, some people are put off by the fact that the series and its main cast (particularly Mario himself) are a SpotlightStealingSquad among Nintendo's franchises,[[note]]one notorious example of this was when almost all non-''Mario'' Toys/{{amiibo}} were difficult to find while the main ''Mario'' cast was extremely common[[/note]] especially if ''Mario'' is going through a DorkAge. Some older fans view later games, particularly the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' games and ''VideoGame/MarioKartWii'', as suffering this.

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** Given that the series is one of the most successful video game franchises on the planet, some people are put off by the fact that the series and its main cast (particularly Mario himself) are a SpotlightStealingSquad among Nintendo's franchises,[[note]]one notorious example of this was when almost all non-''Mario'' Toys/{{amiibo}} were difficult to find while the main ''Mario'' cast was extremely common[[/note]] especially if ''Mario'' is going through a DorkAge.common[[/note]]. Some older fans view later games, particularly the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' games and ''VideoGame/MarioKartWii'', as suffering this.
28th Apr '18 10:09:11 PM DocStone
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** Mario (and the missing Brooklyn girls) race down a frozen pipe to escape some goombas, who give chase, with one eventually sliding on his belly. Three years later, ''Super Mario 64'' would debut, and a star is earned in the winter-themed stage by sliding (on your belly) down a slide made of ice.
25th Apr '18 4:05:34 PM MasterHero
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%% * DorkAge: The [=GameCube=]/GBA era. The series' main release at the time was ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'', which was controversial for its unconventional gameplay mechanics and giving classic characters like Peach and Bowser subpar voice acting and shallow, generically cartoonish personalities (though the game has been VindicatedByHistory). Along with this, the franchise began to be oversaturated in spinoffs (particularly sports games), and the ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' subseries was becoming a FranchiseZombie. But some of the best-loved ''Mario'' RPG games were released around that time, such as the first two ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' games and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', and some of the ''Party'' and sports titles (Especially ''Toadstool Tour'', ''Power Tennis'' and ''Superstar Baseball'') have become VindicatedByHistory.
25th Apr '18 8:27:02 AM MasterHero
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* DorkAge:
** The [=GameCube=]/GBA era. The series' main release at the time was ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'', which was controversial for its unconventional gameplay mechanics and giving classic characters like Peach and Bowser subpar voice acting and shallow, generically cartoonish personalities (though the game has been VindicatedByHistory). Along with this, the franchise began to be oversaturated in spinoffs (particularly sports games), and the ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' subseries was becoming a FranchiseZombie. But some of the best-loved ''Mario'' RPG games were released around that time, such as the first two ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' games and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', and some of the ''Party'' and sports titles (Especially ''Toadstool Tour'', ''Power Tennis'' and ''Superstar Baseball'') have become VindicatedByHistory.
** The 3DS/[=Wii U=] era is viewed as this due to the prominence of the linear, [[StrictlyFormula formulaic]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games. This caused some fans to claim that ''Mario'' games in other genres (such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and especially ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'') were being watered down to be more similar to ''NSMB'' to "play things safe" and to compete with mobile gaming,[[note]]the most popular smartphone games tend to be overly simplistic[[/note]] losing their charm, imagination, and their creative "magic" in the process.[[note]]This was reflected perfectly when ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRun'', the series' own mobile entry, was released during this DorkAge and played exactly like a watered-down ''NSMB'' game, and is considered a moderately lukewarm mobile game among Nintendo's titles.[[/note]] Additionally, likely due to the ''NSMB'' influence, the ExcusePlot nature of the series became more glaring and egregious than before, with the plot of almost every main ''and'' spinoff game boiling down to the basic "Bowser kidnaps Peach" formula with little variation or creative interpretation. The ''NSMB'' subseries itself was accused of stagnant {{sequelitis}} as well until after ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'', when no further games from the subseries were announced/released for existing consoles. The spinoffs got it the worst, with many beloved spinoffs, like ''Mario Tennis'' (Ultra Smash in particular) being exceptionally watered-down. This DorkAge wasn't helped by the Toys/{{amiibo}} craze; while amiibo in general were a success for Nintendo, the overabundance of ''Mario'' character amiibo and shortage of most other characters caused many fans to become even more bitter towards the series, and both the amiibo fiasco and general declining quality of ''Mario'' games made Mario's usual WolverinePublicity more embarrassing and frustrating for some. However, other games like ''VideoGame/LuigisMansionDarkMoon'', ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'' have been better received.

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DorkAge: The [=GameCube=]/GBA era. The series' main release at the time was ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'', which was controversial for its unconventional gameplay mechanics and giving classic characters like Peach and Bowser subpar voice acting and shallow, generically cartoonish personalities (though the game has been VindicatedByHistory). Along with this, the franchise began to be oversaturated in spinoffs (particularly sports games), and the ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' subseries was becoming a FranchiseZombie. But some of the best-loved ''Mario'' RPG games were released around that time, such as the first two ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' games and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', and some of the ''Party'' and sports titles (Especially ''Toadstool Tour'', ''Power Tennis'' and ''Superstar Baseball'') have become VindicatedByHistory.
** The 3DS/[=Wii U=] era is viewed as this due to the prominence of the linear, [[StrictlyFormula formulaic]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games. This caused some fans to claim that ''Mario'' games in other genres (such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and especially ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'') were being watered down to be more similar to ''NSMB'' to "play things safe" and to compete with mobile gaming,[[note]]the most popular smartphone games tend to be overly simplistic[[/note]] losing their charm, imagination, and their creative "magic" in the process.[[note]]This was reflected perfectly when ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRun'', the series' own mobile entry, was released during this DorkAge and played exactly like a watered-down ''NSMB'' game, and is considered a moderately lukewarm mobile game among Nintendo's titles.[[/note]] Additionally, likely due to the ''NSMB'' influence, the ExcusePlot nature of the series became more glaring and egregious than before, with the plot of almost every main ''and'' spinoff game boiling down to the basic "Bowser kidnaps Peach" formula with little variation or creative interpretation. The ''NSMB'' subseries itself was accused of stagnant {{sequelitis}} as well until after ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'', when no further games from the subseries were announced/released for existing consoles. The spinoffs got it the worst, with many beloved spinoffs, like ''Mario Tennis'' (Ultra Smash in particular) being exceptionally watered-down. This DorkAge wasn't helped by the Toys/{{amiibo}} craze; while amiibo in general were a success for Nintendo, the overabundance of ''Mario'' character amiibo and shortage of most other characters caused many fans to become even more bitter towards the series, and both the amiibo fiasco and general declining quality of ''Mario'' games made Mario's usual WolverinePublicity more embarrassing and frustrating for some. However, other games like ''VideoGame/LuigisMansionDarkMoon'', ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'' have been better received.
VindicatedByHistory.
15th Apr '18 8:02:55 AM mario0987
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* AuthorSavingThrow: The Nintendo Switch era seems intent on fixing the problems that caused a DorkAge for the 3DS and Wii U era. All accusations of a lack of creativity were banished with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'', the [=RPGs=] got a bone thrown at them with ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKinngdomBattle'' having tight, well thought out and new gameplay plus a focus on humour the [=RPGs=] are known for while ''[[VideoGame/MarioTennis Mario Tennis Aces]]'' avoided the problems ''Ultra Smash'' faced with new assets, gameplay and a story mode.

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* AuthorSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow: The Nintendo Switch era seems intent on fixing the problems that caused a DorkAge for the 3DS and Wii U era. All accusations of a lack of creativity were banished with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'', the [=RPGs=] got a bone thrown at them with ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKinngdomBattle'' ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle'' having tight, well thought out and new gameplay plus a focus on humour the [=RPGs=] are known for while ''[[VideoGame/MarioTennis Mario Tennis Aces]]'' avoided the problems ''Ultra Smash'' faced with new assets, gameplay and a story mode.
15th Apr '18 7:50:46 AM mario0987
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* AuthorSavingThrow: The Nintendo Switch era seems intent on fixing the problems that caused a DorkAge for the 3DS and Wii U era. All accusations of a lack of creativity were banished with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'', the [=RPGs=] got a bone thrown at them with ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKinngdomBattle'' having tight, well thought out and new gameplay plus a focus on humour the [=RPGs=] are known for while ''[[VideoGame/MarioTennis Mario Tennis Aces]]'' avoided the problems ''Ultra Smash'' faced with new assets, gameplay and a story mode.
9th Apr '18 11:25:18 AM Chasem
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** As Nintendo's mascot, Mario himself gets this treatment. While some people dismiss Mario for being a dopey, [[AnimationAgeGhetto cartoonish]] [[TheEveryman everyman]] VanillaProtagonist compared to characters like [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]], he is near-universally loved and is almost never criticized outright, largely due to his universal appeal -- something even WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse couldn't sustain over the years. Some modifications of his character, such as [[SelfFanservice portraying him as a]] {{bishonen}} [[RonTheDeathEater or a villain]], sexualizing him, or [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking putting him in]] [[VideoGame/HotelMario a CD-i game]], are mostly frowned upon, unless it's done for humorous purposes.

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** As Nintendo's mascot, Mario himself gets this treatment. While some people dismiss Mario for being a dopey, [[AnimationAgeGhetto cartoonish]] [[TheEveryman everyman]] VanillaProtagonist compared to characters like [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]], he is near-universally loved and is almost never criticized outright, largely due to his universal appeal -- something even WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse couldn't sustain over the years. Some modifications of his character, character -- such as [[SelfFanservice portraying him as a]] {{bishonen}} [[RonTheDeathEater or a villain]], sexualizing him, or [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking putting him in]] [[VideoGame/HotelMario a CD-i game]], game]] -- are mostly frowned upon, unless it's done for humorous purposes.
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