History YMMV / SuperMarioBros

12th Jan '18 3:51:10 PM Chasem
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** In general, fans of most Nintendo franchises are bound to be ''Mario'' fans to some extent. Almost all Nintendo fans have played a ''Mario'' game as one of their first Nintendo games, the series is endearing and well-designed enough to continue appealing to fans beyond that level, and many fans of other Nintendo franchises are introduced to them via ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (for which the ''Mario'' characters are a major draw) or a more in-depth exploration of the company.
8th Jan '18 7:28:10 PM flameclaw0x7
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* LGBTFanbase: Bowser is ''incredibly'' popular with the gay fandom, most notably with furries.

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* LGBTFanbase: Bowser is ''incredibly'' popular with the gay fandom, [[PopularWithFurries most notably with furries.with]] [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom furries]].
5th Jan '18 11:27:18 AM N8han11
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* SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-2L4PTV14A This.]]
5th Jan '18 11:18:11 AM N8han11
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** Luigi and the Goombas (for being {{Butt Monkey}}s), and Daisy and Waluigi (for being DemotedToExtra). Luigi's example is zigzagged, since he's ''also'' a MemeticBadass... so the full meme is that absolutely nobody will ever give him credit for it.
** Princess Daisy has gotten this treatment more and more since [[EnsembleDarkhorse Rosalina]] appeared. Rosalina has appeared in ''Super Smash Bros'' and playable in a main game before Daisy, who is twenty years older than her. Since Luigi and Daisy are usually paired up, at least they can be losers together. Daisy's newfound status as TheUnfavourite loser has actually made her a lot more sympathetic and likeable as a character instead of being a widely despised [[TheScrappy scrappy]] among fans. It got worse now that a ''trampoline'' was picked as a playable costume for Mario over her in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker''. However as of January 2016, [[ThrowTheDogABone Daisy is]] ''[[ThrowTheDogABone finally]]'' [[ThrowTheDogABone added as a costume]] in ''Mario Maker''.

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** Luigi and the Goombas (for being {{Butt Monkey}}s), and Daisy and Waluigi (for being DemotedToExtra). Luigi's example is zigzagged, since he's ''also'' a MemeticBadass... so the full meme is that absolutely nobody will ever give him credit for it.
** Princess Daisy has gotten this treatment more and more since [[EnsembleDarkhorse Rosalina]] appeared. Rosalina has appeared in ''Super Smash Bros'' and playable in a main game before Daisy, who is twenty years older than her. Since Luigi and Daisy are usually paired up, at least they can be losers together. Daisy's newfound status as TheUnfavourite loser has actually made her a lot more sympathetic and likeable as a character instead of being a widely despised [[TheScrappy scrappy]] among fans. It got worse now that when a ''trampoline'' was picked as a playable costume for Mario over her in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker''. However ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'', and it wouldn't be until later on that Daisy was added as of January 2016, a costume. [[ThrowTheDogABone Daisy is]] ''[[ThrowTheDogABone finally]]'' [[ThrowTheDogABone added as a costume]] Her playable appearance]] in ''Mario Maker''.''VideoGame/SuperMarioRun'' helped lessen this, albeit slightly.
%%** Luigi's example is zigzagged, since he's ''also'' a MemeticBadass... so the full meme is that absolutely nobody will ever give him credit for it.
28th Dec '17 6:28:57 PM RoarkTenjouin
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** If you're a Sentai fan, you might be forgiven for thinking that Bowser and co are from [[Series/BakryuuSentaiAbaranger Dino Earth]][[note]]don't see it? The premise of this movie has the Earth split into two worlds - the one we live in, and one where Dinosaurs survive - which is the exact same premise that ''Abaranger'' revolved around[[/note]].

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** If you're a Sentai fan, you might be forgiven for thinking that Bowser and co are from [[Series/BakryuuSentaiAbaranger [[Series/BakuryuuSentaiAbaranger Dino Earth]][[note]]don't see it? The premise of this movie has the Earth split into two worlds - the one we live in, and one where Dinosaurs survive - which is the exact same premise that ''Abaranger'' revolved around[[/note]].
28th Dec '17 6:28:13 PM RoarkTenjouin
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** If you're a Sentai fan, you might be forgiven for thinking that Bowser and co are from [[Series/BakryuuSentaiAbaranger Dino Earth]][[note]]don't see it? The premise of this movie has the Earth split into two worlds - the one we live in, and one where Dinosaurs survive - which is the exact same premise that ''Abaranger'' revolved around[[/note]].
28th Dec '17 1:38:57 PM Chasem
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** Given that the series is one of the most successful video game franchises on the planet, some people are put off by this, especially since the series and its main cast (particularly Mario himself) are a SpotlightStealingSquad among Nintendo's franchises (one notorious example of this was when almost all non-''Mario'' Toys/{{amiibo}} were difficult to find while the main ''Mario'' cast was extremely common). Some older fans view later games, particularly the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' games, as suffering this.

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** Given that the series is one of the most successful video game franchises on the planet, some people are put off by this, especially since the series and its main cast (particularly Mario himself) are a SpotlightStealingSquad among Nintendo's franchises (one notorious example of this was when almost all non-''Mario'' Toys/{{amiibo}} were difficult to find while the main ''Mario'' cast was extremely common). Some older fans view later games, particularly the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' games, games and ''VideoGame/MarioKartWii'', as suffering this.
28th Dec '17 1:35:17 PM Chasem
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** The 3DS/[=Wii U=] era is viewed as this due to the prominence of the linear, [[StrictlyFormula formulaic]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games. Causing some fans claim that ''Mario'' games in other genres (such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and especially ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'') are being watered down to be more similar to ''NSMB'' and to compete with mobile gaming,[[note]]the most popular smartphone games tend to be overly simplistic[[/note]] losing their charm, imagination, and their creative "magic" in the process. The ''NSMB'' subseries itself was accused of stagnant {{sequelitis}} as well until after ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'', when no further games from the subseries were announced/released for existing consoles. The spinoffs got it the worst, with many beloved spinoffs, like ''Mario Tennis'' (Ultra Smash in particular) being exceptionally watered-down. However, other games like ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'' have been better received.

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** The 3DS/[=Wii U=] era is viewed as this due to the prominence of the linear, [[StrictlyFormula formulaic]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games. Causing This caused some fans claim that ''Mario'' games in other genres (such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and especially ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'') are being watered down to be more similar to ''NSMB'' and to compete with mobile gaming,[[note]]the most popular smartphone games tend to be overly simplistic[[/note]] losing their charm, imagination, and their creative "magic" in the process.process - which was reflected perfectly when ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRun'', the series' mobile entry, was released during this DorkAge and played exactly like a watered-down ''NSMB'' game, and is widely considered to be Nintendo's weakest mobile game. The ''NSMB'' subseries itself was accused of stagnant {{sequelitis}} as well until after ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'', when no further games from the subseries were announced/released for existing consoles. The spinoffs got it the worst, with many beloved spinoffs, like ''Mario Tennis'' (Ultra Smash in particular) being exceptionally watered-down. However, other games like ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'' have been better received.
28th Dec '17 1:32:36 PM Chasem
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** ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' are treated as this by the fandom and regarded as some of the finest platformers ever made. All of them are affected by HypeBacklash, however.
** On the RPG side, ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor'', though it is getting affected by HypeBacklash.

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** While debates rage on in some parts of the fandom, ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' are treated as this by the fandom and regarded as some of the finest platformers ever made. All of them are affected by HypeBacklash, however.
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** On the RPG side, ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor'', though it is getting affected by HypeBacklash.HypeBacklash in some circles due to the fact that most of its vindication was caused by backlash to ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar''.
28th Dec '17 7:20:00 AM A-Squared
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** Fans debate about whether the ''Mario'' franchise has "lost its magic" after a certain point, with the games becoming more derivative and with less heart and personality put into them. A frequent claim is that this happened after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'': its [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 direct sequel]] is agreed to be more formulaic with more of an ExcusePlot, the "[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks samey]]" ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' sequels began to set in, and the other 3D platformers and spinoffs became more derivative as well (most notoriously ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar''). However, the franchise is still going strong, and some fans argue that it's still capable of putting out original, memorable titles such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' and especially ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker''.

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** Fans debate about whether the ''Mario'' franchise has "lost its magic" after a certain point, with the games becoming more derivative and with less heart and personality put into them. A frequent claim is that this happened after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'': its [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 direct sequel]] is agreed to be more formulaic with more of an ExcusePlot, the "[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks samey]]" ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' sequels began to set in, and the other 3D platformers and spinoffs became more derivative as well (most notoriously ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar''). However, the franchise is still going strong, and some fans argue that it's still capable of putting out original, memorable titles such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'', and especially ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker''.''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''.
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