History YMMV / SuperMarioBros

16th Oct '17 10:15:31 PM lalalei2001
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* {{Squick}}: The fungus, in-universe. Mario in particular is constantly grossed out by it.

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* {{Squick}}: The fungus, even in-universe. Mario in particular is constantly grossed out by it.
16th Oct '17 10:14:46 PM lalalei2001
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the middle of the film, we cut to scene of a couple starting to make out. It lasts about 30 seconds with two never-before-seen characters, and then they're never seen again.



** In addition, the dancing Goombas can also be seen as one of the few intentionally funny moments.

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** In addition, the dancing Goombas and Koopas can also be seen as one of the few an intentionally funny moments.moment.



* SoBadItsGood: Some people have come to see the film as strangely charming with some respect to the source material.

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* SoBadItsGood: Some people have come to see the film as strangely charming with some respect to the source material.material, and ti has a cult classic following that sees it and its variations as genuinely good.
12th Oct '17 6:02:07 PM Sammettik
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* VillainDecay:
** Bowser tends to go [[ZigZaggedTrope back and forth]] with this to a nearly unprecedented degree; though he's usually a genuine threat in the 'core' games (ranging from downright [[VillainBall silly plots]] to [[spoiler:accidentally destroying reality after nearly conquering it]]). In spinoffs, though, he's typically little more than a comic-relief nuisance, a [[EnemyMine reluctant ally]], or even a near Woobie level ButtMonkey as in ''Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga''.
** King Boo is introduced as the BigBad of ''Luigi's Mansion '', where he managed to imprison the series namesake. Afterwards he's just another one of Bowser's minions that can be stomped on. This is reversed in ''Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon'' where he [[NoNonsenseNemesis adopts the attitude of his arch-enemy]] and [[TookALevelInBadass becomes even more powerful]].
10th Oct '17 1:26:18 AM HarpieSiren
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* VillainDecay: Bowser tends to go [[ZigZaggedTrope back and forth]] with this to a nearly unprecedented degree; though he's usually a genuine threat in the 'core' games (ranging from downright [[VillainBall silly plots]] to [[spoiler:accidentally destroying reality after nearly conquering it]]). In spinoffs, though, he's typically little more than a comic-relief nuisance, a [[EnemyMine reluctant ally]], or even a near Woobie level ButtMonkey as in ''Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga''.

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* VillainDecay: VillainDecay:
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Bowser tends to go [[ZigZaggedTrope back and forth]] with this to a nearly unprecedented degree; though he's usually a genuine threat in the 'core' games (ranging from downright [[VillainBall silly plots]] to [[spoiler:accidentally destroying reality after nearly conquering it]]). In spinoffs, though, he's typically little more than a comic-relief nuisance, a [[EnemyMine reluctant ally]], or even a near Woobie level ButtMonkey as in ''Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga''.
5th Oct '17 2:46:53 PM HarpieSiren
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** Mario is short and pudgy, with a big nose and a bushy mustache, but fanworks often feature a far more conventionally attractive Mario. At best he'll still be recognizably himself, big nose, mustache and all, but be drawn in a way that downplays his goofiness, and makes his proportions more in line with the princesses. At worse, he'll be the most generic looking bishonen in existence that ''maybe'' has a bit of peach fuzz on his upper lip. Luigi, of course, gets hit with it as well.

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** Mario is short and pudgy, with a big nose and a bushy mustache, but fanworks often feature a far more conventionally attractive Mario. At best he'll still be recognizably himself, big nose, mustache and all, but be drawn in a way that downplays his goofiness, and makes his proportions more in line with the princesses. At worse, he'll be the most generic looking bishonen in existence that ''maybe'' has a bit of peach fuzz on his upper lip. Luigi, of course, gets hit with it as well.
5th Oct '17 1:37:40 AM HarpieSiren
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** People are either excited for, disappointed in or bewildered by ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle''.

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** People are either excited for, about, disappointed in or bewildered by ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle''.


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** A common misconception is that Mario is much,''much'', older than he actually is. While early documents did peg him as middle-aged, that has long since changed. Officially, Mario's only twenty-four years old.


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* SelfFanservice:
** Mario is short and pudgy, with a big nose and a bushy mustache, but fanworks often feature a far more conventionally attractive Mario. At best he'll still be recognizably himself, big nose, mustache and all, but be drawn in a way that downplays his goofiness, and makes his proportions more in line with the princesses. At worse, he'll be the most generic looking bishonen in existence that ''maybe'' has a bit of peach fuzz on his upper lip. Luigi, of course, gets hit with it as well.
** Oddly enough, the [[InvertedTrope inverse]] is just as often seen, and for every fanwork that portrays Mario as a pretty boy, there's one that portrays him as an obese, middle-aged {{Gonk}}, ostensibly in the pursuit of realism. Of course, a part of this likely stems from the common misconception that Mario's far older than he actually is.
1st Oct '17 9:01:12 PM MasterHero
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** A fact that always comes up when people try to paint Mario as morally ambiguous, or evil is that he stomps on harmless enemies that are just minding their own business. While early games had limitations on how enemies could attack, rendering them more like obstacles most of the time, later games show that the Goombas and Koopas that work for Bowser aren't "minding their own business" and actually try to attack Mario.

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** A fact that always comes up when people try to paint Mario as morally ambiguous, or evil is that he stomps on harmless enemies that are just minding their own business. While early games had limitations on how enemies could attack, rendering them more like obstacles most of the time, later games show that the Goombas and Koopas that work for Bowser aren't "minding their own business" and actually try to attack Mario. Even if they aren't minding their own business, ''they are still part of an army that has kidnapped the leader of a sovereign nation''.
1st Oct '17 8:24:19 PM HarpieSiren
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* CommonKnowledge:
** Mario is always viewed as using his head to smash blocks open in the games, which leads to people joking that Mario suffers brain damage or a similar injury by the end of the game. Mario actually hits blocks with his fist.
** A fact that always comes up when people try to paint Mario as morally ambiguous, or evil is that he stomps on harmless enemies that are just minding their own business. While early games had limitations on how enemies could attack, rendering them more like obstacles most of the time, later games show that the Goombas and Koopas that work for Bowser aren't "minding their own business" and actually try to attack Mario.
5th Sep '17 5:22:37 PM Pichu-kun
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* [[Fanon/SuperMarioBros Fanon]]



* {{Fanon}}: Tons of it. And that's not even getting into the RPG games:
** It's not uncommon for people to believe that Daisy is no longer AmbiguouslyBrown as she spends more time hanging around the Mushroom Kingdom than in the warmer Sarasaland.
** Daisy never appears in main games because she [[DamselOutOfDistress puts up too much of a fight to be kidnapped]]. Alternatively, she is so desperate to be in a main series game that she ''wants'' to be kidnapped.
** Peach and Daisy are frequently seen as cousins in fanworks. This might be due to a strategy guide calling them cousins, however that's unofficial.
** Daisy is frequently depicted as being chubbier than Peach and Rosalina. It was originally a derogatory concept, however her fans began to draw her as a BigBeautifulWoman too. When combined with Peach and Rosalina they're made into BigThinShortTrio.
** Wario and Waluigi are brothers. It's ambiguous in canon but fans certainly believe it. Sometimes they're cousins to Mario and Luigi as well.
** "Clawdia Koopa" is a character well-engrained into the fandom. She is the MissingMom of Bowser Jr, and usually the Koopalings as well. Depictions differ on whether she's deceased or divorced. There are no canon references to Clawdia, she is a fan-creation.
** The Koopalings are not officially Bowser's children, but the fandom [[FanonDiscontinuity has been slow to get on board]]. Bowser Jr is considered the heir and Bowser's favorite. A fan theory makes them HappilyAdopted by Bowser, which would make them technically not related to Bowser but his children nonetheless. Other fans see them as Bowser Jr's cousins. This was later {{Jossed}} in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'', where Bowser treats them as bothersome minions, but even ''that'' hasn't stopped some fans.
** Rosalina being related to Peach is a common theory. She was related to Peach [[WhatCouldHaveBeen early in development]] of ''Galaxy'' however the final games hold no implications. Peach is often considered the descendant of Rosalina's brother, though other fanons exist.
** Rosalina is largely considered a princess by fans. You'll constantly see her referred o as such by fans but officially she is just "Rosalina" despite her crown. It's probable that she was born a princess, however she has no kingdom anymore.
** It was common for Rosalina to be presented as TheStoic, TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask, or an EmotionlessGirl. However, with appearances in series like ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' that's changed. She's still depicted as more [[ProperLady regal]] than other characters though.
** Peach is implied to have [[InvisibleParents living parents]] however fans usually depict her as an orphan.
** According to early canon Mario and Luigi are from Brooklyn and were transported to the Mushroom Kingdom as adults. The ''VideoGame/YoshisIsland'' games show otherwise however many fans mix the two concepts: They were born in the Mushroom Kingdom, moved to New York in their childhood, but ended up back in the Mushroom Kingdom as adults. A common theory for this departure from the kingdom is that after the disastrous Shroob invasion in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime'' the bros' parents decided living in the Mushroom Kingdom was too dangerous to raise their children.
** Many fans think that Peach upgraded the brothers to a FirstNameBasis between ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' and ''VideoGame/{{Super Mario 64}}''. The games have apparently jossed this as they were friends as toddlers.
** The concept that everyone is an AnimatedActor is a popular one, mostly due to Miyamoto likening the relationship between the characters to the trope. In fact, the characters ''are'' {{Animated Actor}}s for ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'', but it's ''only'' confirmed for that game.
** "Jumpman" is a common surname for Mario and Luigi in fanworks.
** Amongst fans who see the Koopalings as Bowser's children, "Morton" is either Bowser's given name, his disceased father's name, or his deceased brother's name.
** Toad and Captain Toad are two separate characters, but a lot of fans like to make them one and the same, especially since the two are never seen together.
** An interesting bit of Luigi fanon from the ''Wii'' era involved presenting [[VideoGame/SuperPaperMario Mr. L]] as his wicked inner shadow, which seems to have been born of a historical accident -- Mr. L's debut game occured within the same era as ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', where Luigi was described as having an inner darkness and his LimitBreak was the MindScrew Negative Zone. This has mostly disappeared as of the Wii U era, now that Nintendo has let up on the DarkerAndEdgier characterization.
** Many fanart of Daisy depicts her with a tan or as AmbiguouslyBrown, much like her appearance in the ''N64'' era. To go along with the ([[CommonKnowledge somewhat misguided]]) fact that she lives in a desert.
** A lot of the fandom [[FanonDiscontinuity has been slow to get on board with the news]] that Toads are not mushrooms and are actually a genderless race taking on gendered characteristics, and continue to view them as mushroom people with genders, especially since the latter creates ''a lot'' of confusion when it comes to Toads previously established as explicitly male and female in RPG games like ''[[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor The Thousand-Year Door]]''.
** Several games have had single Magikoopa characters/enemies which were nameless or seemingly generic, but the fandom has universally decided that they are all Kamek. Some examples include the Magikoopa who was going to be in ''VideoGame/MarioKart64'' but was replaced with Donkey Kong; the Magikoopa who blasts Mario away from Peach's Castle in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' (a trading card for ''SMG'' confirms that it was indeed Kamek); the Magikoopa who aids Bowser in ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]''; and the Magikoopa who was a boss in ''VideoGame/YoshisSafari''. Two games, ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'' and ''VideoGame/SuperPrincessPeach'', do have Kamek in them, but he was unnamed or misnamed in the English versions. Bizarrely, ''[[VideoGame/MarioParty Mario Party DS]]'' has him named Kamek, but in ''Mario Party 9'' he is named "Magikoopa" in the North American version but not the European version.
** Pauline has lingering feelings for Mario. They're AmicableExes in canon but fans can't help but see Pauline as still wanting Mario back, even though Mario himself has moved on. This is usually used as a joke in DieForOurShip Peach/Mario works, but appears more innocently as well. Her cuddling Mario's gift in the intro to one of the ''Mario vs Donkey Kong'' games could count as ShipTease. This goes hand-in-hand with the idea that Pauline sings "Jump Up, Super Star!" from ''Odyssey'' about Mario.
13th Aug '17 10:34:25 PM lalalei2001
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* HilariousInHindsight: Mario being played by wrestler Lou Albano in ''Super Show'' became this when he wrestled in two episodes of the latter two series.
* LoveItOrHateIt: All three shows. For all the SoBadItsGood reactions it gets, there are plenty who find them to be undeserving of the attention they get.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Mario being played by wrestler Lou Albano in ''Super Show'' became this when he wrestled in two episodes of the latter later two series.
* LoveItOrHateIt: All three shows. For all the SoBadItsGood reactions it gets, there are plenty who find them to be undeserving of the attention they get.
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* ReplacementScrappy:
** The [[TheOtherDarrin new voice actors]] for Mario (Walker Boone for Lou Albano), Luigi (Tony Rosato for Danny Wells) and Princess (Tracey Moore for Jeannie Elias) starting with ''[[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfSuperMarioBros3 Super Mario Bros. 3]]''.
** Oogtar, who replaced Toad in ''Super Mario World'' ([[CastingGag John Stocker voiced both]]).
* TheScrappy: Fans of ''Super Show'' see the Koopa Kids in the latter two cartoons as these as they're [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into one-note, annoying characters.
* SeasonalRot: For the reasons mentioned above, all three shows were subject to this as each aired a year apart from each other.

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* ReplacementScrappy:
** The [[TheOtherDarrin new voice actors]] for Mario (Walker Boone for Lou Albano), Luigi (Tony Rosato for Danny Wells) and Princess (Tracey Moore for Jeannie Elias) starting with ''[[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfSuperMarioBros3 Super Mario Bros. 3]]''.
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ReplacementScrappy: Oogtar, who replaced Toad in ''Super Mario World'' ([[CastingGag World''. [[CastingGag John Stocker voiced both]]).
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* TheScrappy: Fans of SeasonalRot: ''Super Show'' see Mario World'' is generally considered the Koopa Kids in worst of the latter two cartoons as these as they're [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into one-note, annoying characters.
* SeasonalRot: For the reasons mentioned above, all three shows were subject to this as each aired a year apart from each other.
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* SoBadItsGood:
** [[ZigZaggedTrope Zig Zagged]] with ''Super Show''. Some genuinely like it while others have this opinion about it.
** Played straight with the latter two series.



** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTtnc38dHcE Speed of Light]] (aka, the bgm for the mattress sled scene) is considered one of the best parts of the movie, even to the detractors.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTtnc38dHcE Speed of Light]] (aka, Light]], the bgm BGM for the mattress sled scene) scene, is considered one of the best parts of the movie, movie even to the its detractors.



* CriticalBacklash: It's nearly unanimous that the movie is an atrocious adaptation of the games, but many viewers find it to be a fairly weird, trippy and entertaining little flick if taken as its own self-contained story divorced from the source material ([[InNameOnly which isn't exactly hard to do]]).

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* CriticalBacklash: It's nearly unanimous that the movie is an atrocious InNameOnly adaptation of the games, but many viewers find it to be a fairly weird, trippy and entertaining little flick if taken as its own self-contained story divorced from the source material ([[InNameOnly which isn't exactly hard material. Miyamoto, for his part, felt it failed because it was too ''close'' to do]]).the games.



** King Koopa's lair is a skyscraper with neon lights. [[spoiler: Just like in ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld''.]]

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** King Koopa's lair is a skyscraper with neon lights. [[spoiler: Just lights, just like in ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld''.]]



** The idea of Mario going to a mock-up of Manhattan would be revisited in the games over 20 years later with the announcement of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' which features the location New Donk City.
** Realistic dinosaurs, including a Tyrannosaurus Rex, are featured in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''.
* LoveItOrHateIt: A bad InNameOnly [[AudienceColoringAdaptation adaptation]] or an amusing PragmaticAdaptation of a game series that never had much of plot to begin with? Fans of the movie often point out how the movie had to do a considerably different story often in order to somehow make a live action Mario Bros. movie, while detractors often deemed this to be a horribly inaccurate movie that tried to cash in on the series' popularity. Miyamoto, for his part, felt it failed because it was too ''close'' to the games.

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** The idea of Mario going to a mock-up of Manhattan would be revisited in the games over 20 years later with the announcement of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' which features the location New Donk City.
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City. Realistic dinosaurs, including a Tyrannosaurus Rex, are also featured in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''.
* LoveItOrHateIt: A bad InNameOnly [[AudienceColoringAdaptation adaptation]] or an amusing PragmaticAdaptation of a game series that never had much of plot to begin with? Fans of the movie often point out how the movie had to do a considerably different story often in order to somehow make a live action
''Super Mario Bros. movie, while detractors often deemed this to be a horribly inaccurate movie that tried to cash in on the series' popularity. Miyamoto, for his part, felt it failed because it was too ''close'' to the games.Odyssey''.



* RetroactiveRecognition: ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans will surely recognize [[Film/HarryPotter Aunt Petunia]] as the villainess now.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fans will surely recognize [[Film/HarryPotter Aunt Petunia]] as the villainess Lena now.



* SoBadItsGood: In the later years, some people have come to see the film as strangely charming with some respect to the source material at best.

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* SoBadItsGood: In the later years, some Some people have come to see the film as strangely charming with some respect to the source material at best.material.



* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: God bless you Bob Hoskins, for ''trying'' to give a performance. And consider he's playing [[FlatCharacter Mario]], of all roles to be stuck with.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: God bless you Bob Hoskins, for ''trying'' to give a performance. And consider He's playing Mario for all he's playing [[FlatCharacter Mario]], of all roles to be stuck with.worth despite the terrible time he had on set.



** Yoshi. For an animatronic puppet, it looks like it just stepped out of a time portal to the Jurassic Era. Yoshi was so advanced that the makers of Film/JurassicPark studied him to get their ''starting'' point.
** This also applies to a lesser extent the Goombas. All of them, '''''including''''' those only seen in the background, had [[http://www.smbmovie.com/SMBArchive/specials/interviews/12_AllanPaulMEL_2-5-11.html multiple movements built into the heads]].

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** Yoshi. For an animatronic puppet, it looks like it just stepped out of a time portal to the Jurassic Era. Yoshi was so advanced that the makers of Film/JurassicPark ''Film/JurassicPark'' studied him to get their ''starting'' point.
** This also applies to a lesser extent the Goombas. All of them, '''''including''''' ''including'' those only seen in the background, had [[http://www.smbmovie.com/SMBArchive/specials/interviews/12_AllanPaulMEL_2-5-11.html multiple movements built into the heads]].
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