History YMMV / SuperMarioBros

20th Apr '17 2:42:09 PM Sammettik
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* BreatherBoss: Has had a few in some games, such as The Big Bully in VideoGame/SuperMario64 and Topmaniac and the Undergrunt Gunner in VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy.

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* BreatherBoss: Has had a few in some games, such as The Big Bully in VideoGame/SuperMario64 ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' and Topmaniac and the Undergrunt Gunner in VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy.''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy''.



** Which Mario games are better: the 2D platformers or the 3D platformers? Is VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3 or VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld the best 2D Mario? Do the VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros games honor the original games legacy or are they awful cash-in games that are barely any different from each-other? There are also other issues such as if you prefer the American or Japanese version of VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 and both camps have their reasons why.

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** Which Mario games are better: the 2D platformers or the 3D platformers? Is VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3 ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' or VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' the best 2D Mario? Do the VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games honor the original games legacy or are they awful cash-in games that are barely any different from each-other? There are also other issues such as if you prefer the American or Japanese version of VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' and both camps have their reasons why.
20th Apr '17 2:34:02 PM Sammettik
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** Rosalina is officially depicted as a mysterious woman with some kind of power over the very cosmos. Much like other characters, her exact role isn't given too much detail (apart from an unlockable backstory in VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy that first introduced her, and even that seems to be disregarded sometimes). That hasn't stopped fans from frequently interpreting her to be some sort of goddess (or if you go by the Judaeo-Christian line of thought, The Virgin Mary).

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** Rosalina is officially depicted as a mysterious woman with some kind of power over the very cosmos. Much like other characters, her exact role isn't given too much detail (apart from an unlockable backstory in VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' that first introduced her, and even that seems to be disregarded sometimes). That hasn't stopped fans from frequently interpreting her to be some sort of goddess (or if you go by the Judaeo-Christian line of thought, The Virgin Mary).



* AnimationAgeGhetto: The series suffers from this due to its cartoony, family-friendly nature - especially when compared to [[Franchise/SonictheHedgehog other video]] [[VideoGame/FiveNightsatFreddys game series]] that are popular, but have higher content ratings suited to more adult audiences. The creators in fact actively [[DefiedTrope defy this trope,]] as the games are for all ages much like Creator/Pixar movies. [[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/111028qa/03.html According to the late Satoru Iwata]], the perception of ''Mario'' as a "childish" franchise was a problem that Nintendo wasn't too pleased about, and they actively worked on having the franchise appeal to all age groups, similarly, Miyamoto has repeatedly stressed how the series' creators tend to fall victim to this trope and design the all-ages ''Mario'' games as if they were specifically for children just because they're played by kids. For example, Creator/KojiKondo [[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-Super-Mario-Galaxy/Volume-3-The-Sound-Team/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario-205066.html famously rejected]] music composed for VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy that was unintentionally designed to appeal to children and was written based on the presumption of Mario being a KidAppealCharacter. Kondo refuted that "Mario is cool" and that he never thought of him as cute, and that Mario's games are "cool adventure games" at their heart.

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* AnimationAgeGhetto: The series suffers from this due to its cartoony, family-friendly nature - especially when compared to [[Franchise/SonictheHedgehog other video]] [[VideoGame/FiveNightsatFreddys game series]] that are popular, but have higher content ratings suited to more adult audiences. The creators in fact actively [[DefiedTrope defy this trope,]] as the games are for all ages much like Creator/Pixar movies. [[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/111028qa/03.html According to the late Satoru Iwata]], the perception of ''Mario'' as a "childish" franchise was a problem that Nintendo wasn't too pleased about, and they actively worked on having the franchise appeal to all age groups, similarly, Miyamoto has repeatedly stressed how the series' creators tend to fall victim to this trope and design the all-ages ''Mario'' games as if they were specifically for children just because they're played by kids. For example, Creator/KojiKondo [[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-Super-Mario-Galaxy/Volume-3-The-Sound-Team/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario-205066.html famously rejected]] music composed for VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' that was unintentionally designed to appeal to children and was written based on the presumption of Mario being a KidAppealCharacter. Kondo refuted that "Mario is cool" and that he never thought of him as cute, and that Mario's games are "cool adventure games" at their heart.



* BizarroEpisode: The US VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 (known as "Super Mario USA" in Japan) has little to do with the rest of the main platformer series, and is revealed to be [[ItWasAllJustADream a dream]] in the end. This is largely due to it being a DolledUpInstallment of VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic, though this hasn't prevented the game from influencing the series in many subtle ways.

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* BizarroEpisode: The US VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 (known ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 ''(known as "Super Mario USA" in Japan) has little to do with the rest of the main platformer series, and is revealed to be [[ItWasAllJustADream a dream]] in the end. This is largely due to it being a DolledUpInstallment of VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic, though this hasn't prevented the game from influencing the series in many subtle ways.



** Which is the better voice for Mario, Charles Martinet's work as Mario ever since VideoGame/SuperMario64, or Captain Lou Albano from WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow? [[TakeATHirdOption Or should Nintendo hire a new voice actor?]]

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** Which is the better voice for Mario, Charles Martinet's work as Mario ever since VideoGame/SuperMario64, ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', or Captain Lou Albano from WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow? [[TakeATHirdOption Or should Nintendo hire a new voice actor?]]



* CompleteMonster: [[VideoGame/SuperPaperMario Dimentio]] and [[VideoGame/LuigisMansionDarkMoon King Boo]].
20th Apr '17 2:28:45 PM Sammettik
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** Waluigi. He was initially added to the cast because Wario needed a doubles partner for Mario Tennis, but he creates plenty of discussion, both serious and not so serious. WordOfGod goes into no more detail than "he's just Wario's cousin," and his mere presence has some weird implications regarding Mario, Luigi and Wario: Mario is the original, Luigi is a reflection of Mario (somewhat similar, but [[{{Foil}} different in certain ways]]), Wario is also a reflection (Wario is Mario's EvilCounterpart). Waluigi is a reflection of a reflection.

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** Waluigi. He was initially added to the cast because Wario needed a doubles partner for Mario Tennis, but he creates plenty of discussion, both serious and not so serious. WordOfGod goes into no more detail than "he's just Wario's cousin," and his His mere presence has some weird implications regarding Mario, Luigi and Wario: Mario is the original, Luigi is a reflection of Mario (somewhat similar, but [[{{Foil}} different in certain ways]]), Wario is also a reflection (Wario is Mario's EvilCounterpart). Waluigi is a reflection of a reflection.
13th Apr '17 5:29:26 PM Tiquono
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** Waluigi. He was initially added to the cast because Wario needed a doubles partner for Mario Tennis, but he creates plenty of discussion, both serious and not so serious. WordOfGod goes into no more detail than "he's not related to anyone, he's just Wario's friend," and his mere presence has some weird implications regarding Mario, Luigi and Wario: Mario is the original, Luigi is a reflection of Mario (somewhat similar, but [[{{Foil}} different in certain ways]]), Wario is also a reflection (Wario is Mario's EvilCounterpart). Waluigi is a reflection of a reflection.
** Bowser. Idiotic overly macho king, or obfuscating stupidity on a political mastermind? I.e., his kingdom is all lava and igneous rocks. Peach's isn't. And the best way to gain political power in a monarchy is to marry into it.
** Rosalina is officially depicted as a mysterious woman with some kind of power over the very cosmos. Much like other characters, her exact role isn't given too much detail (apart from an unlockable backstory in the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy game]] that first introduced her, and even that seems to be disregarded sometimes). That hasn't stopped fans from frequently interpreting her to be some sort of goddess (or if you go by the Judaeo-Christian line of thought, The Virgin Mary).
** Another one is whether Bowser Jr. is a [[ChildProdigy mechanical genius that builds his own machines]] or simply a [[SpoiledBrat spoiled rich kid who gets his father to buy them for him.]] Nothing in the main series suggests one possibility is any more likely than the other, and the spin-offs give conflicting opinions: in ''Fortune Street'', itís implied that Junior at the very least ''designs'' some of his own mechs, while in ''Super Smash Brothers'' itís implied that the Junior Clown Car, at least, was indeed a gift from his father. Itís also unclear whether he does any repairs on his machines himselfó''New Super Mario Bros Wii'' seems to hint that he is indeed capable of doing his own patch-work repairs, while ''Mario & Luigi: Dream Team'' hints that he has a group of Monty Moles responsible for repairing the Junior Clown Car.

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** Waluigi. He was initially added to the cast because Wario needed a doubles partner for Mario Tennis, but he creates plenty of discussion, both serious and not so serious. WordOfGod goes into no more detail than "he's not related to anyone, he's just Wario's friend," cousin," and his mere presence has some weird implications regarding Mario, Luigi and Wario: Mario is the original, Luigi is a reflection of Mario (somewhat similar, but [[{{Foil}} different in certain ways]]), Wario is also a reflection (Wario is Mario's EvilCounterpart). Waluigi is a reflection of a reflection.
** Bowser. Idiotic overly macho king, or obfuscating stupidity ObfuscatingStupidity on a political mastermind? I.e., his kingdom is all lava and igneous rocks. Peach's isn't. And the best way to gain political power in a monarchy is to marry into it.
** Rosalina is officially depicted as a mysterious woman with some kind of power over the very cosmos. Much like other characters, her exact role isn't given too much detail (apart from an unlockable backstory in the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy game]] VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy that first introduced her, and even that seems to be disregarded sometimes). That hasn't stopped fans from frequently interpreting her to be some sort of goddess (or if you go by the Judaeo-Christian line of thought, The Virgin Mary).
** Another one is whether Bowser Jr. is a [[ChildProdigy mechanical genius that builds his own machines]] or simply a [[SpoiledBrat spoiled rich kid who gets his father to buy them for him.]] Nothing in the main series suggests one possibility is any more likely than the other, and the spin-offs give conflicting opinions: in ''Fortune Street'', itís implied that Junior at the very least ''designs'' some of his own mechs, while in ''Super Smash Brothers'' itís implied that the Junior Clown Car, at least, was indeed a gift from his father. Itís also unclear whether he does any repairs on his machines himselfó''New himselfó[[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros New Super Mario Bros Wii'' Wii]] seems to hint that he is indeed capable of doing his own patch-work repairs, while ''Mario & Luigi: Dream Team'' hints that he has a group of Monty Moles responsible for repairing the Junior Clown Car.



* AnimationAgeGhetto: The series suffers from this due to its cartoony, family-friendly nature - especially when compared to other video game series that are popular, but have higher content ratings suited to more adult audiences. The creators in fact actively [[DefiedTrope defy]] this trope, as the games are for all ages much like Creator/{{Pixar}} movies. [[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/111028qa/03.html According to the late Satoru Iwata]], the perception of ''Mario'' as a "childish" franchise was a problem that Nintendo wasn't too pleased about, and they actively worked on having the franchise appeal to all age groups, similarly, Miyamoto has repeatedly stressed how the series' creators tend to fall victim to this trope and design the all-ages ''Mario'' games as if they were specifically for children just because they're played by kids. For example, Creator/KojiKondo [[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-Super-Mario-Galaxy/Volume-3-The-Sound-Team/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario-205066.html famously rejected]] music composed for ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' that was unintentionally designed to appeal to children and was written based on the presumption of Mario being a KidAppealCharacter. Kondo refuted that "Mario is cool" and that he never thought of him as cute, and that Mario's games are "cool adventure games" at their heart.

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* AnimationAgeGhetto: The series suffers from this due to its cartoony, family-friendly nature - especially when compared to [[Franchise/SonictheHedgehog other video video]] [[VideoGame/FiveNightsatFreddys game series series]] that are popular, but have higher content ratings suited to more adult audiences. The creators in fact actively [[DefiedTrope defy]] defy this trope, trope,]] as the games are for all ages much like Creator/{{Pixar}} Creator/Pixar movies. [[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/111028qa/03.html According to the late Satoru Iwata]], the perception of ''Mario'' as a "childish" franchise was a problem that Nintendo wasn't too pleased about, and they actively worked on having the franchise appeal to all age groups, similarly, Miyamoto has repeatedly stressed how the series' creators tend to fall victim to this trope and design the all-ages ''Mario'' games as if they were specifically for children just because they're played by kids. For example, Creator/KojiKondo [[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-Super-Mario-Galaxy/Volume-3-The-Sound-Team/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario-205066.html famously rejected]] music composed for ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy that was unintentionally designed to appeal to children and was written based on the presumption of Mario being a KidAppealCharacter. Kondo refuted that "Mario is cool" and that he never thought of him as cute, and that Mario's games are "cool adventure games" at their heart.



* AwesomeEgo: Bowser is boastful and arrogant despite his repeated defeats from Mario. His fans however, agree he lives up to that, and when he doesn't fight Mario, he usually does.

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* AwesomeEgo: Bowser is boastful and arrogant despite his repeated defeats from Mario. His fans [[{{Fan}} fans]] however, agree he lives up to that, and when he doesn't fight Mario, he usually does.



* BizarroEpisode: The US ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' (known as ''Super Mario USA'' in Japan) has little to do with the rest of the main platformer series, and is revealed to be AllJustADream in the end. This is largely due to it being a DolledUpInstallment of ''VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic'', though this hasn't prevented the game from influencing the series in many subtle ways.
* BreatherBoss: Has had a few in some games, such as The Big Bully in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' and Topmaniac and the Undergrunt Gunner in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy''.

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* BizarroEpisode: The US ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 (known as ''Super "Super Mario USA'' USA" in Japan) has little to do with the rest of the main platformer series, and is revealed to be AllJustADream [[ItWasAllJustADream a dream]] in the end. This is largely due to it being a DolledUpInstallment of ''VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic'', VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic, though this hasn't prevented the game from influencing the series in many subtle ways.
* BreatherBoss: Has had a few in some games, such as The Big Bully in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' VideoGame/SuperMario64 and Topmaniac and the Undergrunt Gunner in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy''.VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy.



** Which Mario games are better: the 2D platformers or the 3D platformers? Is ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' or ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' the best 2D Mario? Does the ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games honor the original games legacy or are they awful cash-in games that are barely any different from each-other? There are also other issues such as if you prefer the American or Japanese version of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' and both camps have their reasons why.
** Which is the better voice for Mario, Charles Martinet's work as Mario ever since ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', or Captain Lou Albano from ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow''? [[TakeATHirdOption Or should Nintendo hire a new voice actor?]]

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** Which Mario games are better: the 2D platformers or the 3D platformers? Is ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3 or ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld the best 2D Mario? Does Do the ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros games honor the original games legacy or are they awful cash-in games that are barely any different from each-other? There are also other issues such as if you prefer the American or Japanese version of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 and both camps have their reasons why.
** Which is the better voice for Mario, Charles Martinet's work as Mario ever since ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', VideoGame/SuperMario64, or Captain Lou Albano from ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow''? WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow? [[TakeATHirdOption Or should Nintendo hire a new voice actor?]]
6th Mar '17 3:29:36 PM SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest
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** The Honey Queen Bee, Metal Mario, and Rosalina in ''VideoGame/MarioKart7'' are all this to Waluigi, who wasn't playable.

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** The Honey Queen Bee, Bee and Metal Mario, and Rosalina Mario in ''VideoGame/MarioKart7'' are all this to Waluigi, who wasn't playable.
2nd Mar '17 6:26:19 AM HeyFella
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Bowser is so damned likable and fun that many players find themselves wanting him to win out over the Mario Bros for once. Look at the top of the page and see how much {{Fanon}} and [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interpretations]] are about Bowser being the good guy. This is even more prominent during his JerkassWoobie moments. ''Bowser's Inside Story'' seems to be a shout out for such players, since it puts Bowser in the limelight.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Bowser is so damned likable and fun that many players find themselves wanting him to win out over the Mario Bros Bros. for once. Look at the top of the page and see how much {{Fanon}} and [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interpretations]] are about Bowser being the good guy. This is even more prominent during his JerkassWoobie moments. ''Bowser's Inside Story'' seems to be a shout out shout-out for such players, since it puts Bowser in the limelight.
28th Feb '17 9:37:26 AM Patrobotnik
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** The SNES/GameBoy era is occasionally believed to be one due to Mario only getting ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioKart'' and the Mario Land games, with it also having the notorious release of the Virtual Boy. It was also the infamous console war era with Nintendo/Mario against SEGA/Sonic The Hedgehog.

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** The SNES/GameBoy [=SNES=]/GameBoy era is occasionally somewhat believed to be one due to Mario only getting ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioKart'' and the Mario Land games, with it also having the notorious release of the Virtual Boy. It was also the infamous console war era with Nintendo/Mario against SEGA/Sonic The Hedgehog.



** Most people claim that the 3DS/[=Wii U=] era is one. Likely due to the immense success of the linear, [[StrictlyFormula formulaic]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games, some fans claim that ''Mario'' games in other genres (such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and especially ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'') are being watered down to be more similar to ''NSMB'' and possibly to compete with mobile gaming,[[note]]the most popular smartphone games tend to be overly simplistic[[/note]] losing their charm and their "magic" in the process. The ''NSMB'' subseries itself was accused of {{sequelitis}} as well until after ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'', when no further games from the subseries were announced/released for existing consoles. Of course, there are also people who note that games like ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' show that the series can still have great ideas despite this. Others think that this era is subject to a major case of AccentuateTheNegative.

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** Most people claim that the 3DS/[=Wii U=] era is one. Likely due to the immense success of the linear, [[StrictlyFormula formulaic]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games, some fans claim that ''Mario'' games in other genres (such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and especially ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'') are being watered down to be more similar to ''NSMB'' and possibly to compete with mobile gaming,[[note]]the most popular smartphone games tend to be overly simplistic[[/note]] losing their charm and their "magic" in the process. The ''NSMB'' subseries itself was accused of {{sequelitis}} as well until after ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'', when no further games from the subseries were announced/released for existing consoles. Of course, there are also some people who note that games like ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' show that the series can still have great good ideas despite this. Others think that this era is subject to a major case of AccentuateTheNegative.
28th Feb '17 9:31:22 AM Patrobotnik
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** In general, any ship that is not Mario/Peach, Luigi/Daisy or Waluigi/Rosalina is not well received by the shippers.
* DorkAge:
** The [=GameCube=]/GBA era is occasionally believed to be one. The series' main release at the time was ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'', which was somewhat controversial for its unconventional gameplay mechanics and giving classic characters like Peach and Bowser subpar voice acting and shallow, generically cartoonish personalities (though the game has been VindicatedByHistory). Along with this, the franchise began to be oversaturated in spinoffs (particularly sports games), and the ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' subseries was becoming a FranchiseZombie. On the other hand, some of the best-loved ''Mario'' RPG games were released around that time, such as the first two ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' games and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', and ''Sunshine'' has become somewhat VindicatedByHistory, so [[NostalgiaFilter some people look back at that era more fondly nowadays]].
** Some people claim that the 3DS/[=Wii U=] era is one. Likely due to the immense success of the linear, [[StrictlyFormula formulaic]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games, some fans claim that ''Mario'' games in other genres (such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and especially ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'') are being watered down to be more similar to ''NSMB'' and possibly to compete with mobile gaming,[[note]]the most popular smartphone games tend to be overly simplistic[[/note]] losing their charm and their "magic" in the process. The ''NSMB'' subseries itself was accused of {{sequelitis}} as well until after ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'', when no further games from the subseries were announced/released for existing consoles. Of course, there are also people who note that games like ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' show that the series can still have great ideas despite this. Others think that this era is subject to a major case of AccentuateTheNegative.

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** In general, any ship that is not Mario/Peach, Mario/Peach or Luigi/Daisy or Waluigi/Rosalina is not well received by the shippers.
* DorkAge:
DorkAge: The franchise has had several.
** The SNES/GameBoy era is occasionally believed to be one due to Mario only getting ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioKart'' and the Mario Land games, with it also having the notorious release of the Virtual Boy. It was also the infamous console war era with Nintendo/Mario against SEGA/Sonic The Hedgehog.
** The [=GameCube=]/GBA era is occasionally believed to be one. The series' main release at the time was ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'', which was somewhat controversial for its unconventional gameplay mechanics and giving classic characters like Peach and Bowser subpar voice acting and shallow, generically cartoonish personalities (though the game has been VindicatedByHistory). Along with this, the franchise began to be oversaturated in spinoffs (particularly sports games), and the ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' subseries was becoming a FranchiseZombie. On the other hand, some of the best-loved ''Mario'' RPG games were released around that time, such as the first two ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' games and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', and ''Sunshine'' has become somewhat VindicatedByHistory, so [[NostalgiaFilter some many people look back at that era more fondly nowadays]].
** Some The DS/Wii era is now considered this due to the fatigue from ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' beginning to set in, with ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' suffering immensely from HypeBacklash and the Mario spinoffs beginning to degrade in quality.
** Most
people claim that the 3DS/[=Wii U=] era is one. Likely due to the immense success of the linear, [[StrictlyFormula formulaic]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games, some fans claim that ''Mario'' games in other genres (such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and especially ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'') are being watered down to be more similar to ''NSMB'' and possibly to compete with mobile gaming,[[note]]the most popular smartphone games tend to be overly simplistic[[/note]] losing their charm and their "magic" in the process. The ''NSMB'' subseries itself was accused of {{sequelitis}} as well until after ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'', when no further games from the subseries were announced/released for existing consoles. Of course, there are also people who note that games like ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' show that the series can still have great ideas despite this. Others think that this era is subject to a major case of AccentuateTheNegative.
23rd Feb '17 11:05:31 PM Patrobotnik
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** The Honey Queen Bee, Metal Mario, and Rosalina in ''VideoGame/MarioKart7'' are all this to Waluigi, who wasn't playable.



** ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' are treated as this by the fandom and regarded as some of the finest platformers ever made. ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' is getting there, but the NostalgiaFilter hasn't completely kicked in yet.

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** ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' are treated as this by the fandom and regarded as some of the finest platformers ever made. ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' is getting there, but the NostalgiaFilter hasn't completely kicked in yet.All of them are affected by HypeBacklash, however.
22nd Feb '17 12:09:31 AM Sammettik
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** King Boo is introduced as the big bad of ''Luigi's Mansion '', where he's depicted as being so powerful that it's ''impossible for anyone, even the Mario Bros to fight him without special ghost hunting equipment''. Afterwards he's just another one of Bowser's minions that can be stomped on. This is reversed in ''Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon'' where he [[NoNonsenseNemesis adopts the attitude of his arch-enemy]] and [[TookALevelInBadass becomes even more powerful]]

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** King Boo is introduced as the big bad BigBad of ''Luigi's Mansion '', where he's depicted as being so powerful that it's ''impossible for anyone, even he managed to imprison the Mario Bros to fight him without special ghost hunting equipment''.series namesake. Afterwards he's just another one of Bowser's minions that can be stomped on. This is reversed in ''Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon'' where he [[NoNonsenseNemesis adopts the attitude of his arch-enemy]] and [[TookALevelInBadass becomes even more powerful]]powerful]].
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