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To-do list:

  • Clean up examples. Keep examples that refer to portrayals of pterosaurs as monstrous, and move instances of inaccurate portrayals of pterosaurs to Artistic License – Paleontology.
    • Clean up on-page examples.
    • Clean up wicks.

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Ptero Soarer seems to have undergone Trope Decay. Its laconic says it's about "Pterosaurs portrayed as bat-winged dragon-like monsters that carry off people in their claws." The page quote, image, and third paragraph of the description support this, but in practice it's more often used to complain about inaccurate pterosaurs, and there's even a list of common inaccuracies which would be more fitting for a Useful Notes page.

My check of 65 wicks on 50 pages found that:

  • 7 examples (10.8%) fit the original definition.
  • 12 (18.5%) were about fantasy creatures inspired by pterosaurs, with varying amounts of realistic-ness.
  • 16 (24.6%) were about generally inaccurate pterosaurus, even if they don't fit the "kidnapping eagle-bat-dragon" stereotype.
  • 1 (1.5%) was an aversion.
  • 11 (16.9%) were either "pterosaurs exist", or potholed under mentions of pterosaurs with no indication of if they fit the trope.
  • The remaining 17 (26.1%) were mostly zero-context examples and pantheon pages.

My suggestions for how to fix it:

Wick check:

The issue: As discussed in Trope Talk, Ptero Soarer has undergone Trope Decay. It's laconic says it's about "Pterosaurs portrayed as bat-winged dragon-like monsters that carry off people in their claws", and the page quote and image support this, but the description has a Useful Notes-esque list of common inaccuracies, and several examples are nitpicky.

    Aggressive and/or kidnapping pterosaurs (7/65) 
  1. NightmareFuel.Jurassic World The scene wherein the park's pterosaurs have escaped and descend upon terrified tourists in Main Street. And when we say "the park's pterosaurs," we mean ALL of the park's pterosaurs.
  2. Meaningful Background Event Just before Ann is attacked by the Pteranodon, you can see it flying by in the distance, because of this it can be easily mistaken for a normal sized bird.
  3. Recap.Futurama S 6 E 9 A Clockwork Origin The robot Pteranodon that carries off Fry to feed to its young.
  4. Recap.Amphibia S 1 E 08 Taking Charge In Suspicion Island, the teens are attacked by a flock of Pteranodon (called "pterodactyls" as usual) that are, apparently, the clones of Chad's dead brother.
  5. ComicBook.Age Of Reptiles (2) While you could argue that they were simply being territorial, the flock of Dsungaripterus that attacked that unfortunate ornithocheirid were being somewhat unrealistically violent toward it.
  6. Small Taxonomy Pools (1) Pterosaurs (order Pterosauria) will usually be either Pteranodon, Rhamphorhynchus, or a completely fictional blend of the two; or more occasionally, an eagle-like Quetzalcoatlus, a Pterodactylus or a Dimorphodon. Other species are exceedingly rare.They are often erroneously called "flying dinosaurs".note 
  7. Recap.Adventure Time S 5 E 40 Play Date The Pteranodon from the beginning uses its wing claws to carry Finn and Jake.

    Fantasy creatures inspired by pterosaurs (12/65) 
  1. Characters.Age Of Wonders Planetfall The Shrike and the Harrier share characteristics with Pterosaurs.
  2. DarthWiki.Diamond Phase: Somewhat resembles a pteranodon.
  3. Recap.Dinotrux S 01 E 02 Scrapadactyls The Scrapadactyls, metallic scavengers that collect scrap metal to build their nests with.
  4. Characters.Pathfinder Dragons Dinosaurs Are Dragons: Sort of. They're pterosaur-like dragons.
  5. Series.Captain Power And The Soldiers Of The Future The pterosaur-like Soaron to Lord Dread. At least until Blastarr is created mid-way through the series. Blastarr and Soaron then become Co-Dragons (and bitter rivals).
  6. Call a Pegasus a "Hippogriff" The tabletop version depicts The Phoenix as a fire-breathing legless dragon-like creature with membraneous wings, scaly skin and no discernable avian features aside from it's beak. This is an especially odd case, considering the original video game had a much more traditional (albeit somewhat pterosaur-like) phoenix.
  7. Franchise.Godzilla Rodan is similarly based on how pterosaurs were portrayed at the time, as a giant beaked reptilian flyer with leathery wings and, in many appearances, a crest that resembles the one of the pterosaur Pteranodon. In fact, his original Japanese name "Radon" is derived from Pteranodon.note 
  8. TabletopGame.Shadowrun
    1. Sirens, creatures resembling small Ptero Soarers and possessing hypnotic calls, are believed to have been artificially created as guard animals from unknown reptilian source animals. They weren't suitable for these purposes due to their highly aggressive natures, however, and now live as aggressive predators in wildernesses worldwide.
    2. Our Sirens Are Different: Sirens, creatures of unknown origin and resembling small Ptero Soarers, possess hypnotic calls that evoke profound emotional trances and cause listeners to stand still in a daze or actively walk towards their sources. As sirens are aggressive predators, they are believed to use this ability to hunt.
  9. Characters.Silent Hill 1
    1. They resemble a Pteranodon in design, but with longer humanoid legs and human-like torsos between the wings.
    2. Humanoid Abomination: Unlike the Ptero Soarer Air Screamers, these creatures are clearly more human-like in appearance except for the wings and their elongated heads, which are eternally covered in worms.
  10. Characters.Gamera They have at least as much in common with stereotypical cartoon pterosaurs as they do with bats.

    Inaccurate pterosaurs (16/65) 
  1. Characters.Carnivores (wicks 1 & 2)
    1. It is always shown flying high in the sky, although the real Dimorphodon is considered to have been a poor flyer. It also lacks the vane at the end of its tail, and it's got pointy wing-tips. On the other hand, it appears to have pycnofibres (hair-like structures pterosaurs possess).
    2. Anatomy-wise it doesn't look that bad, although it's got pointy wing-tips. However, its HD and Reborn version is misproportioned, including a head that's rather small.
  2. WesternAnimation.Dino Ranch Pteddy and his mother Maggie are Pteranodons that lack the pycnofibres (fur-like covering) of real pterosaurs and walk on two legs instead of four like they would in real life. However, they're friendly and harmless creatures who help the family around the farm and correctly lack teeth.
  3. Literature.Portal Of Evil You can run into a Pteranodon: while its appearence will probably make an expert cringe, at least you fight the beast on the ground, where it's not hindered at all.
  4. GravityFalls.Tropes P To Z (1) The "pterodactyl" from "Land Before Swine", which looks like an unholy mixture of all stereotypes, down to the scaly skin, being called a "dinosaur", having eagle-like hindlimbs, leathery wings, having a Pteranodon crest alongside rather mismatched teeth, making chicken-like nests and having zero to no body fat. Strangely enough, though, it walks quadrupedally, like a real pterosaur.
  5. Characters.Marvel Comics Savage Land Scaly skin instead of hair-like pycnofibers? Check (occasional hairstyle aside). Bat-like wing structure? Check. Bipedalism? Check. Identified as a dinosaur? Check.note 
  6. The Theme Park Version The Mesozoic Era gets hit with this trope. Many forms of fictional Dinosaur Media will feature the standard ugly, bloodthirsty carnivores (like Tyrannosaurus rex) and docile, good-natured herbivores (like Brontosaurus), horrifying Sea Monsters that make the shark from Jaws look like a guppy (marine reptiles like Plesiosaurus) and airborne terrors that descend upon helpless creatures on the ground (pterosaurs like Pteranodon). The landscape will almost always be depicted as alien and unfamiliar, with even the flora being impossible to recognize, and the whole thing would be completely covered in volcanoes and molten lakes, with everyday life being a constant fight for survival. Of course, nearly all of these are exaggerated and some, like the volcanoes, are almost totally fabricated. The flora of the Mesozoic wasn't all that different from the flora we have nownote  and the animals were, for all intents and purposes, still normal animals. A living T. rex would be no more vicious or terrifying than a modern lion or grizzly bear (aside from being 20-30 times more massive, three and a half times as tall, six times as long and capable of eating an average lion or grizzly in one bite), and on the flipside, a plant eating dinosaur would not necessarily be friendly (modern plant eaters certainly aren't). The sea reptiles and pterosaurs would likely be the same way. What is more, there tends to be an overstatement of the largest and most spectacular creatures in any given area. Dinosaurs came in all shapes and sizes and occupied just about every ecological niche you could think of, and a large apex predator like the T-rex could really only exist in an environment already teeming with life.note 
  7. ComicBook.Age Of Reptiles (1) All of them are bipedal, lack sufficient pycnofibres and many of them suffer from the typical Misplaced Wildlife, Mix-and-Match Critters and Anachronism Stew, even worse than the dinosaurs in the stories.
  8. Characters.My Girlfriend Is AT Rex Like Trica's Raptor Attack status, his inaccuracies are justified by the nature of the series. At least his wings are supported by one finger rather than being batlike.
  9. Characters.The Good Dinosaur All mistakes listed there, plus with the extra fact the specific species probably spent most of their lives soaring above the sea. Instead they spend their days following a storm far out inland.
  10. The Magic School Bus S 2 E 3 The Busasaurus The Pteranodons who make a cameo are okay for their time, but aside from the aforementioned Anachronism Stew, they shouldn't be flying over the mainland (Pteranodon was a primarily marine animal).
  11. Animation.Speckles The Tarbosaurus
    1. Hairless pterosaurs.note 
    2. Haenamichnus and Nemicolopterus are both hairless. They also have rather leathery wings - pterosaurs had complex wing membranes -, pointy wingtips and most mistakes seen in 70's pterosaurs. To make matters worse, they're depicted as fish eaters, when in reality they were terrestrial predators not unlike secretary birds.
  12. Characters.Godzilla Rodan is basically a textbook example on how pterosaurs were portrayed throught the 20th century, resembling more a plucked chicken with bat wings. For comparison, this is an accurate Pteranodon reconstruction. Granted, the Showa and Millenium versions of him have more membrane-like wings, whereas his Heisei incarnation has more blatant bat-like wings. His Heisei version also has a longer beak more similar to those of real Pteranodon. He still has teeth, however. In the case of the Monsterverse Rodan, all this inaccuracies can be justified by the fact he no longer is a pterosaur, but rather an ancient lifeform that happens to look like a pterosaur. His appearance in Singular Point is much closer to the real deal, though, even walking quadrupedally and bearing some small hair, but his toothiness still remains.
  13. Series.Koreanosaurus
    1. The Haenamichnus has scaly skin and inaccurate wing folding. It's also shown as eating freshwater arthropods.
    2. Science Marches On: See Ptero Soarer and Raptor Attack. Also, scaly Tarbosaurus and Therizinosaurus.

    Aversions (1/65) 
  1. Recap.Prehistoric Park Reimagined E 6 Return Of The King Averted with the quetzalcoatlus, as they are furry, quadrupedal, not at all helpless on the ground, and pick things up with their beaks instead of their feet (which, naturally, are accurately portrayed without talons).

    Pterosaurs exist/potholed under mentions of pterosaurs (11/65) 
  1. ZergRush.Film In the sequel, a group of baby pteranodons attack a kid this way.
  2. FunnyBackgroundEvent.Live Action Films Citizen Kane has a scene of Kane and his friends enjoying a beach party. Because the scene was shot on a sound stage, the Florida wetlands in the background are represented by rear-projected stock footage of the jungles of Skull Island taken from The Son of Kong. It's a quick scene, so it's easy to miss that those things flying around the treetops are not birds. So yes, technically there are pterodactyles in Citizen Kane.
  3. VideoGame.Biomechanical Toy One of the two most common enemies (besides the T. Rexpy stuffed dinosaurs) in the Lost World stage, where Inguz will face hordes and hordes of stuffed toy pterosaurs coming from everywhere.
  4. Flying Flightless Bird A downplayed pterosaur variant on this trope would be in the Dinotopia series, which featured Dimorphodons as the pterosaurian equivalent of an Instant Messenger Pigeon, thus implying long-distance flying ability; later studies would uncover that Dimorphodon would likely have been about as good at flying as a chicken—that is to say, not very, due to its body being heavy and its wings being short. It still could fly, but likely only for short distances and in emergencies. This is justified due to science marching on, as all this wasn't known at the time the books were published.
  5. VideoGame.Diddy Kong Racing Purple Pteranodon can be seen flying about in the Dino Domain courses.
  6. Small Taxonomy Pools (2) Pterosaurs, usually the 20-foot wide, head-crested Pteranodon of Late Cretaceous North America, and less frequently the gull-sized, fin-tailed Rhamphorhynchus of Late Jurassic Europe. Popular culture often lumps all prehistoric flying reptiles together as "pterodactyls", which is a term restricted only for members of the suborder Pterodactyloidea, particularly its namesake, the Late Jurassic European Pterodactylus.
  7. Characters.Genshin Impact Abyss Order Animal Mecha: According to designers team, the Ruin Drake's design is inspired from Tyrannosaurus rex and Pterosaurs which based to Eastern Beliefs that Dinosaurs were considered as Dragons.
  8. VideoGame.Fly Or Dieio The Pterodactyl is not the worst depiction, as it correctly has a crest and a toothed beak, and can eat a wide variety of food instead of being restricted to land animals and fish.
  9. VideoGame.Zoo Tycoon No pterosaurs appear as adoptable animals, but there is an aviary dedicated for them in the first game: the "Pteranodon House". It doesn't even have Pteranodon. note 
  10. Recap.Rupert S 03 E 01 Rupert And Ginger Rupert befriends a family of Pteranodon.
  11. Memes.World Of Warcraft Another fucking horse! explanation 

    Misc (17/65) 
  1. Characters.Carnivores (wick 3)note 
  2. YMMV.Turok Evolution went down hill so fast after the Ptero Soarer part. note 
  3. Characters.Star Vs The Forces Of Evil Forces Of Evil: A weird inversion: he is a bird but his Solarian warrior form looks like a reasonably accurate Ornithocheirus.
  4. Characters.Dinotrux note 
  5. Pantheon.Child Archetypes: Pterence: Ptero Soarer, Genki Boy
  6. GravityFalls.Tropes P To Z (2) Raptor Attack: The raptor from "Land Before Swine". Like the Ptero Soarer from the same episode, it is guilty of possessing all pop-culture stereotypes: oversized, lack of feathers, pronated hands, and reptilian eyes. It also has two-fingered hands, a feature that doesn't correspond to any known deinonychosaur.
  7. Characters.Beast Wars Expanded Universe Natch.
  8. Pantheon.Mesozoic Beasts
    1. Rodan, God of Pterosaurs
    2. Portfolio: Flying Pterosaurs, Looks like a Wyvern, Flies at Superspeed, Giant Flyer
    3. All: Stock Dinosaurs (And Pterosaurs)
    4. Petrie: Acrophobic Pterosaur, Cowardly Lion, Ptero Soarer, Innocent Bigot, Third-Person Person, We'll Believe Anything, Has a Very Vivid Imagination, Is Amazed by Pretty Much Everything, Possess teeth despite Pteranodon Meaning Toothless Wing, Once Taunted Sharptooth and Nearly Died in the Process
    5. Those being Apatosaurus, Triceratops, Saurolophus, Stegosaurus, Tyrannosaurus rex, Oviraptor, and Pteranodon.
    6. This is, simply put, a dinosaur’s story… Well, three dinosaurs and one pterosaur to be more precise.
    7. Pterence: Ptero Soarer, Genki Boy
  9. ArtisticLicensePaleontology.Live Action TV "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship" had Ptero Soarers, juvenile Tyrannosaurus that look like the adults and typical pop culture raptors.note 
  10. Characters.Archipelago Exodus He’d take his sweet time with this one, after that. Maybe saw the crest off and then stab the beast through the jugular with its own crest. Were pterodactyls the ones that had those crests coming out the back of their head?
  11. Characters.Crash Bandicoot Villains Scientists In It's About Time, he turns into a giant green-skilled hulk again for the second stage of his boss fight. He performs a second transformation into a Ptero Soarer at the end, but before he can resume the fight he's forced to fly off when this transformation turns out not to agree with his digestive processes much.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 27th 2023 at 4:26:40 AM

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#54: May 8th 2023 at 11:17:38 PM

Can anyone go ahead with editing the quote as per 50? Or should a mod do it?

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#56: May 15th 2023 at 9:08:35 AM

I noticed that here, it claims that Terror-dactyl is found in 598 articles, but then lists less than a hundred actual articles. Is that because it adds the 514 wicks of the redirect Ptero Soarer to the total number?

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#58: May 15th 2023 at 3:29:33 PM

Yeah, the main page's Related page counts redirects' wicks in the total wick count; you just have to navigate to the redirects' own Related pages to actually see the redirects' wicks. The software used to directly list the redirects' wicks on the main page's Related page, but that was changed at some point (it was before I was a mod, but either way, I prefer the current system because it makes it significantly easier to tell which pages are using which name).

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 15th 2023 at 5:29:56 AM

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#59: May 16th 2023 at 3:57:59 AM

That means the cleanup is nowhere near complete then, we have five times as many wicks for Ptero Soarer than for Terror-dactyl, when I thought it was roughly half-half.

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#61: May 16th 2023 at 10:09:02 AM

For The Secret Saturdays, it seems that Zon is largely an aversion of Terror-dactyl (being both a friendly character and a somewhat accurate Tropeognathus), whereas the Duah is a straight example, being a hostile monster that looks like a mish-mash of different pterosaurs (with bat wings to boot). However, in the image caption, Zon is potholed as a Ptero Soarer. What trope do you suggest I should replace the pothole with?

Edited by Snicka on May 16th 2023 at 7:14:21 PM

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#62: May 16th 2023 at 10:19:50 AM

[up]I'd say remove the pothole for now, and replace it when you think of a more fitting trope.

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#63: May 17th 2023 at 5:20:30 AM

[up]When it comes to those wick cases, I usually treat the whole lot as sinkholes. However, there's a better place to discuss it than here.


In other news, down to 440.

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#64: May 18th 2023 at 6:45:11 PM

Less than 390!

Also, what's concerning is a moment when an individual would qualify when factoring in other trope examples, yet the Ptero Soarer example does not focus on that part.

Edited by Berrenta on May 18th 2023 at 8:45:28 AM

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#65: May 19th 2023 at 4:44:29 AM

I had to rewrite several examples to emphasize the monstrousness rather than the inaccuracy of the pterosaur in question.

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#66: May 19th 2023 at 7:22:36 AM

The second Gravity Falls example — "One of the exhibits at the Mystery Shack is a fake Pteranodon perching bipedally on a stump. At least it's toothless and appears to have pycnofibres." — feels like misuse.

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#69: May 23rd 2023 at 7:33:25 AM

And now down at 300!

Some examples, like Blablanadon from Mario & Luigi, are hard to fit into the new definition. The pterosaur is a very clichéd Hollywood pterosaur with bat wings, bird feet and scaly-looking skin, but it's a friendly creature who gives lifts to the characters rather than a dangerous monster. Do examples like this not fit the new definition and should be deleted? I'm reluctant to move them to Artistic License – Paleontology considering they're meant to be cartoony creatures rather than accurate reconstructions.

Edited by Snicka on May 23rd 2023 at 4:35:42 PM

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#70: May 23rd 2023 at 3:51:16 PM

I noticed during the cleanup that Raptor Attack has seen similar misuse. That will need its own thread, however.

I'll place it in the Wick Check Project sandbox for now.

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#71: May 24th 2023 at 8:41:34 AM

There were still a lot of examples on that page that boiled down to "inaccurate pterosaur appears/mildly inaccurate pterosaur appears/here's an aversion where accurate pterosaurs appear", so I did some cleanup just now. Posting here in case anyone would like to double-check edits like these, since it was a pretty substantial one.

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#72: May 24th 2023 at 7:48:00 PM

[up]I'm not sure if I cleaned up any on-page examples. If I didn't, I might have thought I did because I mixed up this project with a different one I did on-page example cleanup for. If I did, then that was an oversight.

Edit: OK, I didn't clean up the on-page examples myself, so I think what happened is that I saw that other people cleaned up some of the examples and thought the on-page examples were done being cleaned. Sorry about the oversight.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 24th 2023 at 9:49:53 AM

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#73: May 26th 2023 at 4:41:02 AM

Down to 37. Almost there!

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#74: May 26th 2023 at 9:59:49 AM

Took care of the rest, so locking up.

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Consensus was to rename Ptero Soarer due to misuse. What should its new name be?

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