YMMV / Fire Emblem Awakening

  • Alternate Character Interpretation:
    • The relationship and child mechanics in the game, and how “Stop Having Fun” Guys abuse them, has resulted in the Avatar often being played as a psychotic control freak who wholeheartedly subscribes to eugenics. As one such person put it, "Fire Emblem isn't about romance! It's about breeding an army of super-soldiers!", which considering the Avatar's OWN origins becomes rather Hilarious in Hindsight.
    • Some fans also commonly portray the Avatar as a master of sarcasm and snark (sometimes eclipsing Severa), with some quip at the ready and constantly making good humoured jabs at others. This itself has not shown up in the game (but they do have their moments), but it crops up frequently in fan works. In keeping with the minor differences in the game, fans portray the male avatar as mellower, snarkier and more deadpan than the female avatar, who's slightly more aggressive. This is even supported by their children: A Female Avatar will give birth to a male Morgan, who is portrayed as a prodigy like his mother, but incredibly dense towards his targets of affection. The Male Avatar will instead have a female Morgan who is just as much of a genius as her father, but is insanely peppy, energetic and hilariously amorous towards her love interests.
    • Since the Avatar can marry any other character of the opposite sex (besides Morgan, obviously) and gets plenty of Ho Yay / Les Yay on top of that, some fans also interpret him/her as a Harem-Seeking Casanova to put even Inigo to shame.
    • The Grimleal. All bad guys in it are doing it for the power or people blindly following tradition. Gangrel's words about tough times forcing the citizens of Plegia to join the Grimleal, the only religion available, as well as that Validar's direct paternal ancestors were all failed Grima vessels lends some support to the latter.
    • Gangrel. Either he's a Jerkass Woobie who needs more slack for his actions than he gets and needs a chance to genuinely become good, or a monster due to goading and bullying Ylisse into going to a possibly needless war against Plegia and indirectly causing Emmeryn's suicide attempt. Also, is he actually as funny as some say he is? (one of the few things that people aren't viciously debating over)
    • Walhart. Either he's a Badass Tsundere who needs a lot of time to warm up to people and stray from his old Conqueror ways to truly create world peace, or he is an unrepentant hard ass who led to so many people's deaths and possibly being a worse parent than even Tharja (in the English Localization).
    • Emmeryn. Either she's a sweet lady who is completely undeserving of what Gangrel put her through back in Chapter 9 and is a genuinely kind person, or she needs to get a reality check and whose sacrifice in chapter 9 rendered the deaths of many people utterly pointless such as Mustafa (which makes no sense, as his death was very much not a consequence of hers by any stretch of logic, and in fact only had the gravity it did because it came immediately after her sacrifice.) Or she might even be a prospect Guile Heroine/Magnificent Bitch whose Heroic Suicide in Chapter 9, regardless of one's stance on it's nature, was actually a Thanatos Gambit to give Chrom the best shot to not just become a new Exalt, but to grow into the prospect leader of the continent — no matter what sacrifices took.
    • Yen'fay: This applies to both the present and the future versions of him. The present counterpart is either noble for doing what he did to keep his sister from getting killed even if it got him killed in the process, or he is reprehensible for siding with Walhart and causing the deaths of many Valmese people all to protect his one sister and an idiot for thinking that Excellus of all people was a credible threat to her and didn't bail out the moment he knew she was safe from him. The future counterpart is either a deeply troubled swordsman who is justifiably unwilling to establish any relations to people after losing Say'ri in the future and feels that he can't protect anything anymore, or he is a wangsting emo who needs to get over his problems to fight for the greater good and to stop avoiding his present day sister and comfort her after losing her present day brother.
    • Chrom. Whether he's more like his kind sisters who struggles to be a better leader for everyone, or if he's a hypocritical and ineffective leader who creates more problems than he solves like his old man.
  • Americans Hate Tingle:
    • Nowi is much less popular out of Japan, mostly because of the connotations associated with a prepubescent-looking and -acting girl as a potential bride.
    • Severa, due to Tsundere being a Discredited Trope outside of Japan and leaning more on the tsun tsun side in the localization, making her more of a Jerk with a Heart of Gold.
    • Olivia's Japanese voice. Most Westerners find Rei Matsuzaki's performance to be overly high-pitched and annoying, while Japanese players find it cute.
  • And You Thought It Would Fail: The sales of the franchise had been in a downward spiral for years, so Intelligent Systems thought there was a fair chance that this would be the last Fire Emblem game ever. The result was THE most successful game in the entire franchise (at the time), both critically and financially.
  • Annoying Video Game Helper: There are some cases where you, as the player, don't want your allies to support attack, such as if you want to keep a recruitable enemy alive or to stop enemies from repeatedly attacking a certain character.
  • Anti-Climax Boss: Validar has the EXACT SAME stats as he had in the Premonition during Chapter 23's first half. It's all part of the plan. When said plan fails, he fights you for real, with proper stats and skills for the Chapter.
  • Angst? What Angst?:
    • In Ricken and Henry's B Support, it turns out that a lot of the Plegian enemies they defeated during the first portion of the game were actually really nice people behind the scenes, and some of them even considered Henry family. Ricken is a lot more upset than Henry is. Subverted as Henry quickly states that if Ricken were cut down in battle, he'd destroy whoever killed him.
    • In chapter 7, The Hierarch, said to be a close friend of the royal familly, betrays the party and lures them to a Plegian ambush. Not only is this event never mentionned again but no one comments when it happens.
  • The Artifact:
    • As is common in Fire Emblem, after their significant arc, certain characters, like Say'ri and Virion, eventually lose any reason to be with Chrom's party, but continue to do so despite the fact that they should have priorities elsewhere.
    • As explained in Base-Breaking Character below, some fans think Lucina becomes a glorified example of this after The Reveal.
  • Award Snub: Almost universally praised by critics, manages to Win Back the Crowd for a series that was on the brink of being abandoned, and one of the main reasons why the 3DS started to improve its sales. Too bad that it had to be released in Western territories the same year as The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, thus becoming unable to win any "(3DS) Game of the Year" awards.
  • Awesome Ego: Several examples in this game, notable ones include Vaike, Virion, Owain, Cynthia, Gangrel, Walhart, the list goes on.
  • Awesome Music: A staple of the series.
  • Ass Pull: The events of (and the ones pertaining to) chapter 23 are this, oh so much. So, Robin killed Chrom and nothing changed, right? Nope! Basilio comes back and pulls a Big Damn Heroes, and reveals that Robin foresaw everything in a dream. Validar taunts him, only for Basilio to state the further revelation that he replaced the gemstones with fakes. Then cut to the end of the chapter; Grima warps in out of nowhere and revives himself with the life force of all the surrounded Grimleal. Shortly after that, when the group is beginning to despair, Robin reveals that they took the Fire Emblem off of Validar's body, and shows it to them, aglow from all five real gemstones set in it. So, Robin had the real gemstones and they weren't in the Emblem; therefore, Grima can't be resurrected. ...Except he just brought himself back using the life force of the surrounding Grimleal. This completely defeats the reason for Plegia to even still want the Emblem, since Future Grima is here and can just revive himself.
  • Badass Decay: Story-wise, Gangrel gets this, as he's a broken man when he and Chrom cross paths in Paralogue 18.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • Avatar. Whether or not the Avatar negatively affects the story is a much debated issue.
    • Nowi. Some fans hate her for the (pseudo) lolicon implications as well as contradicting Tiki's Last Of Her Kind status, but some fans don't care about that, and are just happy Manaketes are useful the whole game through and think her backstory is really sad.
    • Tharja. Some like her for her devotion to the Avatar, usefulness in gameplay, and Creepy Good weirdness while others find it hard to sympathize with her Creepy Good weirdness, her devotion to the avatar, and her essential abuse of her daughter Noire.
    • Chrom. Some fans are starting to question his popularity and denounce him for his flaws, painting him as a bad person for them. Gameplay-wise, he's also hindered by his limited support pool and class sets.
    • Lucina. She is for the most part loved among Fire Emblem fans, and is overall considered one of, if not THE best female Lord character in the series. However, she started to receive quite an amount of flak when her popularity started to grow outside of the franchise's fandom.
      • The biggest turning point was her appearance in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS. Then a lot of Chrom fans started to bash her bringing one debate that divided the fanbase in some sites: whether she is truly relevant to the plot and thus a true Triagonist the whole way through, or if she becomes little more than a glorified artifact after The Reveal.note 
      • Due to the greater amount of marketing she receives compared to the other Awakening charactersnote , some people feel that Lucina is an overrated character receiving too much attention from Fire Emblem's creators and fanbase, similar to fellow Nintendo characters Rosalina and Lucario.
      • Lucina is a popular romance option for the male Avatar, which brings her tons of fanboys, but also makes her a prime target of scorn for fans of the older games who dislike Awakening, and dismiss her as just a "waifu".
    • Cordelia. Her unrequited love for Chrom is either sweet and endearing or unhealthy and annoying, depending on whom you ask. There is also the issue of whether that aspect of her character is overly focused upon or not (which is not helped by her special dialogue and some supports).
    • Henry. Henry’s personality received a huge rewrite in the localization, going from a Stepford Smiler in the original Japanese to an unrepentant Heroic Comedic Sociopath in the localization, and not all fans are happy with it. However, some people think Henry's characterization changed for the better, as he gets some of the funniest lines in the game and they think Japanese!Henry is too wangsty.
    • Sumia. Fan opinions are fiercely divided as to whether her clumsiness and insecurity are endearing or irritating, doubly so over whether her baking pies for Chrom and doing his laundry in their support chain is cute and romantic or based in unappealingly outdated gender roles.
    • Donnel. Unlike the other characters detailed above, this is purely from a gameplay point of view: His stat caps are slightly lower than most characters (so he'll end up a little behind in the late postgame), and his skillpool is small, he's hard to train in the beginning and loses his lance rank forever after class change, but he has high growths and passes on the coveted Pegasus Knight class to daughters.
    • Olivia. Or rather the Dancer Unit. Some don't like Olivia as a Dancer because her purpose is migrated by Galeforce and turn her into an Swordmaster/Assassin with Gale Force and keep her like that. Others have her be other classes for better growth rates and more skills but change her back to a Dancer. And there's some who just don't use her at all.
    • Severa. Despite being near the top of the Japanese character polls, Severa is very polarizing among western fans. In the localization, she comes off as more of a Jerkass in some of her supports, whereas her abrasiveness is mostly a facade to hide her affectionate side in the original version.
    • Yarne. He's either an adorable, well-developed character with good reason to be a afraid of everything or an annoying, whiny coward who needs to grow a pair depending on who you talk to. He'd have much better/clearer reasons to be a coward if not for the fact that it has to do with him being the last of his kind, yet his mother had the same status and wasn't always fearing for her safety. Then again, Yarne is the one who came from a Bad Future. His localized love confession to the Avatar is also either cute or cringe-worthy, again, depending on who you talk to.
    • Sully. Either she's a strong, well-written woman, or she's an annoying character that uses the gender card every time something isn't going her way in spite of the fact that everyone considers her an equal.
    • Kellam, whose main quirk is that he's apparently so unmemorable that his own allies sometimes don't see him even when looking directly at him. On one hand, people think the joke is funny and that Kellam comes off as a likable, put-upon guy with an unfortunate lack of presence. On the other hand, some people think the joke is too exaggerated compared to other characters' main quirks and makes him come off as a Flat Character with this lack of presence as his only defining characteristic.
    • All of the SpotPass Paralogue Units, all but one of them for ruining the impact of several key dramatic scenes in the story.
      • Priam. He's pretty random compared to the other SpotPass characters who actually had a role in the story, making him either an awesome Easter Egg or a pointless character who could have left the last paralogue for a character who had relevance to the story and fans would have liked to see survive. His existence is also hotly debated by Ike's fans and shippers; some people view him as possible evidence that Ike had a wife or female partner despite the possible hints in his own games towards his being gay/bisexual/asexual, with some people appreciating this, others not so much, and others still claiming that Priam's existence is inconclusive. Unless you consider Priam Realted to Ike, but a direct Decendent of Mist, Ike's Sister
      • Emmeryn Whether her return ruined her Heroic Sacrifice, and whether her sacrifice was even worth it, is debated.
  • Broken Base:
    • Casual Mode. On one side, there's a base that is happy for a means for new people to get into the game without all the frustration, and that the series' Final Death mechanic in practice turns into "save scum the chapter until nobody dies" anyway. On the other, some long-time fans dislike the idea of others "turning off" one of the long-term defining elements of the series or having the consequences of sub-par tactics reduced. This particular issue is largely Western, as the Japanese base had already broken over the never-localized previous title in the series that introduced the mode.
    • The paid DLC alone is being met with both a warm reception and some resistance, with this being the first Nintendo game to ever utilize it, as well as people assuming that the DLC will just be style aesthetic junk or content that was intended to be in the final version. As it turns out, one of the packs is full of excellent grinding opportunities and choice loot, and is advertised as such.
    • The Bride class. Some fans despise it as sexist and unimaginative/lame compared to the male-exclusive Dread Fighter class (which for comparison is an incredibly badass and powerful ninja/mageknight hybrid), while others love it for its high support utility between its weapon selection, pair-up bonuses and skills. Not to mention there are plenty of female fans who actually love how girly it is.
    • Everything regarding Eirika's DLC has triggered massive bouts of controversy. Given her redesign from a frontline Action Girl to a Combat Medic and accusations of sexism over the above mentioned Bride class, and the fact that she explicitly states that she dislikes the outfit. However, she can be downloaded from SpotPass as a Myrmidon instead.
    • The love confessions with the Avatar in English. They are either sweet, amusing, or they sound like a mixture of cheesiness and sound nothing like a "real" love confession, like the ones in the Japanese version. A glaring example is Laurent's:
      English: "You've been an object of fascination since I first saw you, one I would gladly spend my life investigating."
      Japanese: "I have always been looking at you. Right now, I love you, and even now I will continue to love you, okay?"
    • Female My Unit x Chrom. There's no doubt that many liked it, considering that it is the most popular marriage choice for a Female Avatar. However, many others suffer Hype Backlash over said popularity and aren't too impressed by the supports or the way it can overtake the story, or how cruel some of its fans can be towards Chrom's other potential wives.
    • The entire second story arc set in Valm. A series of cool battles against memorable opponents that climaxes in epic fashion, or a Plot Tumor that serves only to clutter and draw out the broader narrative while proving largely irrelevant to it? In essence, while stopping Walhart from conquering the continent was probably a good thing, it also ensures he is unable to dismantle the Grimleal, and Validar and the rest of his cabal running Plegia finance the Ylissean counter-attack to kill two birds with one stone. Otherwise, Walhart's invasion and the alliance's counter-invasion are mostly unrelated to the Grima/time travel plot.
  • Complete Monster: Validar is the leader of the Grimleal and the Archnemesis Dad of Robin, and desires nothing less than to bring his eldritch master, Grima the Fell Dragon, into existence. Eugenically breeding his child to be an ideal vessel for the evil god, Validar's plots were initially foiled by his wife, who spirited the baby away, causing him to decide to lie low for more than a decade. He takes over the country of Plegia following the apparent demise of its ruler, King Gangrel, and promises aid to Ylisse, Plegia's traditional enemy in whose army the now-grown Robin serves, against The Empire of Valm; secretly, Validar only does this to corrupt Robin and eliminate Valm's threat to himself. Once Valm is defeated, Validar betrays Ylisse and steals its holy relic, the Fire Emblem, to use to unseal Grima. Validar takes over the minds of the majority of his country's population, forcing them to march on foot toward a Grimleal holy site and then commit mass suicide to offer their souls to the Fell Dragon. Throughout the game, the one person he appears to be close to is his right-hand woman Aversa, but it is eventually revealed that when she was a young girl, he massacred her family and then edited her memories to cause her to believe he had saved her life after their murders.
  • Continuity Lockout:
    • Zig-zagged. The game is able to stand on its own, not directly referencing events from Japan-only titles such as New Mystery and Gaiden, but those who are familiar with the events of those games will immediately recognize The Shield of Seals being the Fire Emblem, and Valentia on the other side of the ocean.
    • Some of the conversations with DLC characters play this straight though. Not the characters themselves and what they went through (you're always given a "do you know X?" question, and if you answer no they introduce themselves), but some of the things they say might leave the uninformed scratching their heads. (Marth's referral to "a member of my royal guard who became one of my closest friends", for example. That's alluding to the previous game with Avatar creation, which was never released overseas.)
  • Cliché Storm: While the characters themselves mostly avert this (although you need to see many Supports to notice it), the main story mostly falls into this, mainly with its (mostly) Black and White Morality overall.
  • Contested Sequel: Is this for Fire Emblem Archanea due to the high amount of liberties taken with the plots of past games. This was mentioned in a Famitsu issue with the team.
  • Counterpart Comparison: Gerome frequently gets compared to Batman, due to his Cool Mask, Dark and Troubled Past and I Work Alone attitude. while Virion seems to take some queues from France, especially his failed attempts at hitting on women and being The Dandy.
  • Critical Dissonance: Awakening has the biggest and most vocal hatedom of any game in the series, as noted below. You wouldn't know that based on its commercial success or critical acclaim. On the other hand, you might even expect it even because of its acclaim and success.
  • Die for Our Ship: Has its own section in the Fire Emblem page.
  • Disappointing Last Level: The two chapters leading up to the finale have very little story or character to them, contrasting with the dramatic and climactic chapters beforehand, as they amount to very little but "Heroes go from A to B, have to fight off Risen and Grimleal on the way." The finale itself is a flat map without any interesting features on it even though it takes place on Grima's back. If you know what you're doing, it can easily be finished within the first turn.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse:
    • Owain, Lissa's son, has probably the most major unexpected fanbase. He also placed the highest of the children characters in the popularity poll after Lucina, due to being hammier than the heavens. His Fountain of Memes status definitely helped.
    • Fans totally ate up Henry like he was going out of style. Hell, he even has his own page on this very wiki.
    • Out of all the minor antagonists in this game, Mustafa, Cervantes and Excellus seem to be the most memorable. The sheer amount of people who wish that Mustafa would be a SpotPass unit (or playable at all) is notable, especially considering that he's a minor character, but it's extremely easy to see why. Excellus is frequently grouped with Gheb and Oliver due to his hideous looks, and mockingly treated as an overly attractive man just like them.
    • Maribelle, the frequently hilarious Lovable Alpha Bitch Ojou.
    • Children characters in general are extremely popular, thanks to their sympathetic backstory, and superb writing in general. It's pretty notable that most of the children characters are well liked even by some parts of the playerbase that considered Awakening's writing to be underwhelming. Notable examples are Brady for his hilarious speech pattern that creates some hilarious dialogue with Maribelle, Noire for her Split Personality and her "BLOOD AND THUNDER!" mantra, and Inigo for having considerable depth compared to past Chivalrous Perverts in Fire Emblem.
    • The four most popular adults were Chrom, Cordelia, Gaius and Tharja, as seen in Summer Scramble where they all got swimsuits. Among the kids, Owain, Inigo, Lucina and Severa got the yukata treatment in the follow-up, Hot Spring Scramble. As of the kids, aside of Lucina, it has the effect of Owain, Inigo and Severa being featured in Fire Emblem Fates with new identities: Odin, Laslow and Selena.
    • Marth, Roy and Ike, who are popular SpotPass/DLC units due to their appearance in Super Smash Bros..
    • Donnel's caused some to restart the game just for him, let that sink in.
  • Epileptic Trees:
    • The Marth-like individual and the Shield of Seals seen in the February 2012 trailer and pictures of the world map ignited speculation that there is some sort of connection to the Archanea universe present, either through being set in the future, an alternate timeline, or a mere crossover. All of these turned out to be true, in a sense.
    • The mysterious SpotPass character Priam sparked a lot of these. He's listed in the credits despite never appearing in the main story, and his Japanese name Paris was Ike's name in a really early build of Path of Radiance. As it turns out, he claims to be a descendant of Ike, and wields Ragnell. Many fans probably already called this.
    • High-level spells contain Heron script in their animations, even ones that originated from Jugdral like Valflame. It's lead some to theorize the Tellius games where actually the first ones in the chronology, with the magic of all the other worlds originating there.
  • Even Better Sequel: For all the base-breaking, there's pretty much no question that Awakening is the highest-rated, best-received, and most successful Fire Emblem game in history. It is miles ahead of its stablemates on Metacritic and sales tallies to date and extrapolation for the 2013 holiday season suggest it will easily be the first Fire Emblem title to ever sell over a million copies worldwide (and even with the current, out of date numbers, it's still the best seller ever).
  • Fake Difficulty: Lunatic+ in a nutshell. Here's a quote that sums it up nicelynote :
    "Success in this chapter depends not on your strategic abilities or preparation, but on how many Luna+ enemies the game decides to throw at you."
  • Fanon:
    • Due to a mistake by fan translators, it is believed by some that Gangrel says that most Grimleal members are literally forced to join. While Gangrel's actual words were more that he believes tough times such as his stint as The Caligula forced the plegian citizens to religion and Grima was the only god available for them.
    • The theory about female and male Morgan being Half-Identical Twins is very popular.
    • Children inheriting traits from their fathers (or in the case of Lucina and female Morgan, mothers) such as Stahl's Messy Hair and clumsiness, Sumia's love for flowers, Gaius's Sweet Tooth, etc.
    • The idea that the Avatar's tactician coat originally belonged to their unseen, unnamed mother is popular among fanartists and writers.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: There are some fans who apply this to the SpotPass chapters, for cheaply bringing back characters who should by all rights be dead, not helped by the fact that some likeable or popular characters who deserve it just as much if not more - like Phila, Mustafa, Cervantes and Pheros - are not recruitable/savable, just because they are less plot-significant. It’s even simple to do in-game as the SpotPass chapters are bonus content that have no bearing on the plot.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: Since there is no definite canon regarding any of the possible pairings in the game, this is more a case of popular pairings that are not possible in-game and are more popular than their possible hook-ups:
    • Pairing Basilio and Flavia together is much more popular than their only possible in-game pairings with the Female and Male Avatar respectively.
    • When it comes to Ho Yay, there's plenty of Maribelle/Lissa, Gerome/Inigo, Owain/Brady, Kjelle/Severa, Henry/Ricken, and a lot of same-sex Avatar pairings like Chrom/male Avatar.
    • There's a surprisingly large group of supporters of Chrom/Cordelia. Yes, the Ignored Enamored Underling and her Oblivious to Love leader, really. In fairness, these are the two of the most popular characters, and it is rather strange that despite being the only couple in the game that actually has legitimate canon backing, it's impossible to pair Chrom with Cordelia.
  • Fountain of Memes: Owain. The heroes' blood in his veins is BOILING, his sword hand twitches, and he can't control it whenever he confesses his love to one of the women. He also hones his psyche so he can grapple with nefarious beasts of the night (or at least with something according to Inigo) and he's an all around walking fountain of Mythology Gags.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
    • Kellam being almost always forgotten by everyone? Totally hilarious. Kellam having the words "T-they saw me..." as his last words, followed by him wondering if anyone will realize he's gone while dying? Not halfway as funny.
    • In The Golden Gaffe DLC, the characters's quotes tend to be really damn funny. Until you get Severa's and she starts sobbing since she kept the last gold coins Cordelia gave her before dying in her stolen wallet. Whoa.
    • After learning about why Lon'qu has his extreme gynophobia, instances of it being played for laughs can become this.
      Sully: Is this some childhood trauma thing? Did a girl take your lunch money?
      Lon'qu: Something like that.
    • A few results on the Hubba Tester can be this depending on the characters involved, especially a bad relationship reading between Lucina and the Avatar. Even moreso if her random reading was "Expects betrayal". Some of the random sibling readings, like "their parents should step in" can be a bit... unfortunate for Chrom and Lissa, whos parents are dead.
    • Another one with Sully: during one of the Scramble DLC's, she can start talking to Panne. She mentions that she likes rabbits because she had a stuffed bunny when she was a kid, which is funny to think about. Panne...doesn't take this well. It turns out that during the genocide of the taguel, people used to kidnap taguel babies and give them to human children as pets, up until they reached a certain age. They would then be killed, to prevent any unpleasantness from happening, as the taguel were great warriors and very dangerous.
      Panne: I suppose you meant no harm...but remember, we taguel were hunted to near extinction by your kind. And one reason we were hunted was to be given to young man-spawn as pets. Loved for a while, then disposed of when we grew too large...
      • It's also said during Panne's supports with Henry that he greatly reminds her of her little brother, who was murdered at a young age. The above provides a clue as to what might have happened to him.
      • Add to the fact that Yarne was with a group of violent mercenaries when you first find him, and you begin to wonder just how willing his membership might have truly been.
    • Lissa and Chroms's C-rank support conversation has Lissa asking Chrom whether or not she seems like a princess, with one line being "When I compare myself to you and Emmeryn, I... I feel like dead weight." If viewed after Emmeryn's suicide however, it becomes this with perhaps a hint of Too Soon as well, depending on how soon after ch. 9 it is viewed.
      • Chrom's initial response to that question is to joke "If you aren't, you owe us rent for your room in the castle," and Lissa replies that he knows that's not what she meant. Typical sibling banter, right? Well, in Owain's paralogue, we learn that Lissa doesn't have the Mark of Naga that her siblings have, and heavily implies that this has made her fear that she is indeed not a princess at all.
  • Game Breaker: Has its own page.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff:
    • Sully tends to rank toward the bottom half of character polls in Japan. If the Internet is any indication at all, in America she is far more popular.
    • Gregor ranked pretty low in popularity in Japan as well, with his character being a rather standard Oyaji sellsword in their version. In America, however, his character received a Heavy Woolseying into a jolly expy of the Heavy (or possibly Minsc), making him one of the most loved and oft-quoted characters in the American fanbase.
    • While the taguel aren't considered fan favourites in the West, both Panne and Yarne nonetheless have fairly strong fanbases. Their home country loathed them for being a new, never-before-seen element of The Verse (and in the popularity polls, Yarne was even ranked dead last).
  • Guide Dang It: Two recruitable characters, Gaius and Tharja, first show up as enemies. Their monologue indicates that they're not entirely antagonistic, but they'll still attack you. To recruit them, you must talk to them specifically with Chrom. If you think just sparing them or Defeat Means Friendship is the solution, they're Lost Forever.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • Reclassing Lissa into a Sage becomes a bit unsettling after Chapter 9. The outfit for her Sage class is Emmeryn's exact costume. She rather resembles her dead sister that way.
      • Potentially lessened by the revelation in a SpotPass Paralogue that Emm survives the ordeal, though not by much.
    • Henry's attitude towards death and a lot of his dialoguenote  becomes this should you get his solo ending, which heavily implies that he committed suicide. His death quote in Classic modenote  invokes this to a lesser extent as well.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Lissa, after Chapter 4, implies that she's kind of smitten with "Marth". Come the end of Chapter 13, and it turns out "Marth" is actually her niece.
    • The reveal that "Marth" is a woman is also hilarious when you consider the Viewer Gender Confusion when Marth appeared in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Even more so now that Lucina has been confirmed for the newest Super Smash Bros.
    • One year after the release of Awakening, Metal Gear Rising came out. Several fans promptly noticed that the lyrics to Jetstream Sam's leitmotif, The only thing I know for real, were amusingly fitting to Robin's backstory and the plot of Awakening, even so far as "spoiling" the twist of the big battle in the last chapter.
    • Kyle Hebert voices both Frederick and Validar in the English dub. In the fourth Super Smash Bros. game, Robin and Lucina (along with Chrom) appear alongside a different character voiced by Hebert... Ryu. Even more Hilarious in Hindsight when you realize that Lucina's own English VA is also the current voice of Chun-Li.
    • In Garcia and Dozla's support from Sacred Stones Dozla accidentally hit Garcia's head while training with a staff. He was originally using an axe, in other words he was training to be a staff-wielding axeman. Now which class can use both in this game?
    • At one point in the game, you are faced with two armies that have bad blood against each other. You can join one army, join the other, or refuse to join a side and fight them both. Now, are we talking about Yarne's recruitment chapter, or Fire Emblem Fates?
  • Ho Yay: Oh, it's there all right. Possibly even more so in the English version in some cases.
    • Lissa and Maribelle. The latter constantly calls the former "darling" and "my treasure" and frets over her to the point of (claiming to) grow grey hair over her...
    • Chrom and Male Avatar can especially come off this way. Their Supports have Male MU fulfilling the role of "nagging wife." It's not helped by how in The Future Past, the dialogue in which Grima!Avatar says "the one in this body loved Chrom" to taunt Lucina does not change if the Avatar is a man. The Drama CDs just add fuel to the fire.
    • Chrom and Frederick have this as well, though it's mostly one-sided on Frederick's part. This leads to some very uncomfortable moments for Chrom in the Harvest Scramble DLC. And then there's the poster incident...
    • Vaike admits to Lissa that he greatly admires Chrom for recognizing his strength rather than fixating over his poor background. When Lissa observes that he might just love Chrom more than any of the Shepherds, he becomes quite flustered, and demands that she keep it a secret.
    • Henry and Ricken. Ricken seems to be the only male friend Henry makes that is around his own age, they train in magic together, and Henry issues a rather passionate Declaration of Protection to Ricken in their A support.
    • Severa and Kjelle:
      • There's one "awkward" moment in their C rank Support when Severa "contemplates" Kjelle's perfect abs...
      • And then there is their scene in Harvest Scramble where a drunk Kjelle accidentally hits on Severa, causing much flustering from the latter. Until it's revealed it's not alcohol she drank, but a Truth Serum. The actions were Kjelle's actual feelings.
    • Severa and Noire as well, since Noire brings out more than one Pet the Dog moment from Severa.
    • They have no supports in the main game, but Severa's Hot Springs conversation with Lucina and their close relationship in Future Past has made people ship her with yet another woman.
    • Gerome and Inigo’s supports (in)famously include a good deal of Ho Yay bait, with lines like “I'm never going out with you again!” and “I WANT TO BE MANHANDLED!” Their Harvest Scramble conversations take it even further:
      Gerome: Hold still! You're making this harder than it has to be.
      Inigo: I'm sorry! I'm just...not used to being manhandled like this... Please, Gerome, just promise me you'll be gentle!
    • The Harvest Scramble is full of Ho Yay fuel. Some really notable examples include Maribelle acting like a Clingy Jealous Girl towards Lissa, Gregor forcing Ricken to pretend to be his girlfriend (and even saying how much of a good girl Ricken apparently makes), and Sumia being hell-bent into making Sully crossdress for a pageant (including a rather epic rant about the beauty of the female body)
    • The female Avatar mistakes a proposition of Flavia's for a marriage proposal. She's just asking if the Avatar would like to be her adoptive sister. However, her dialogue doesn't help matters and the Avatar even points this out.
    • Owain/Brady have a lot of banter, as well as legitimate sweet moments about how deeply they care about each other which gets taken Up to Eleven in the Future Past DLC.
    • It's subtle, but Lucina and Tiki have grounds for this, as well. Tiki constantly remarks on how much Lucina reminds her of Marth in their supports (which given their resemblence, is quite understandable). In Tiki's supports with a male Avatar, she states that the reason she's fallen for the Avatar is because he reminds her of Marth, as well. Like all the other examples on this list, they have a Harvest Scramble conversation together, and in the Future Past DLC, Tiki ends up dying in Lucina's arms while Lucina is screaming her name. This becomes rather Hilarious in Hindsight considering how often Lucina gets paired up with another green-haired divinity after her appearance in Super Smash Bros..
    • Vincent and Victor have deliberate No Yay subtext played-up In-Universe... despite the fact they're twin brothers. This seems to be a staple of the series.
    • Gregor and the male Avatar are quite popular among gay male fans. The Support conversations are nearly the same with an Avatar of either gender, both revolving around Gregor trying to get the Avatar to share a bed with him to keep warm at night.
    • Say'ri and Tiki. They're canonically Heterosexual Life-Partners, but their A support does seem very romantic, almost like a Romantic Two-Girl Friendship, but they are a bit past the general age for that.
    • Hubba's rating system makes no attempt to be subtle about this, when ratings like "loins afire" are not restricted by the two characters' genders.
    • Virion and Libra's supports also have it in spades. Initially, Virion sees Libra doing manual labour and tries to woo him by offering help. Libra reveals that he's a man, and Virion gets a bit flustered and distracted by Libra's feminine beauty. In their second support, Virion flatters Libra so much that the priest ends up blushing. In their final support, Virion is attempting to be chivalrous again, when it backfires and Libra has to rescue him. The support ends with Virion blushing as he internally gushes over Libra's masculine physical attributes.
  • Hype Backlash:
    • Considering the insane amount of praise the game was receiving, this was pretty much unavoidable. Quite a lot of people, specially pre-Awakening Fire Emblem fans, didn't consider the game to be neither as complex nor as compelling as the rest did in any way. Some see the story as a Cliché Storm with one-dimensional villains, others consider the characters utterly one-noted and devoid of Character Development, and some complain of a brokenly unbalanced gameplay with bland level design.
    • The Galeforce skill. The many claims of it being one of the most overpowered and useful skills in the game has led some to argue that it isn't. The most common grounds being most combat in the game takes place during the Enemy Phase, where the skill doesn't work.
  • Inferred Holocaust: There's speculation that various nations which have become deserts, and the disappearance of the Manakete tribes is due to some sort of World disaster or genocide.
  • Internet Backdraft:
    • Go onto any Fire Emblem fansite. Then ask this: Which is canon/better? Male Avatar or Female Avatar? Then sit back and enjoy the show.
      • It gets better knowing that there is no 'canon' version of the Avatar. The only canonical part of them is the clothes they wear. In addition, the existence the Outerworld means that EVERY Avatar can be considered canonical. Still, fun to watch the shouting that ensues.
    • Just as fans were hyped for release, the game suffered some last-minute shipping and distribution problems. Some fans didn’t take this well. Some people have even gone so far as to suspect that the release problem was a ploy by Nintendo to get more eShop sales, where it was released on the 4th as scheduled.
    • The idea of there being "canon" pairings. Just try and bring it up on any given forum, then watch the sparks fly. Specially if we bring up Chrom/Sumia vs. Chrom/female!Avatar: Ship-to-Ship Combat will initiate in less than five seconds as both sides will accuse each girl of being "forced" on the players as Chrom's Official Couple.
    • People are now complaining about Nintendo of America censoring Tharja in the "Summer Scramble" DLC. Ironically, the censorship makes it look more risque than the uncensored version.
    • Question of the year! Having the Avatar marry one of the future children: cute option that's also good for Morgan technically-speaking, or squicky move that lets the player "cradle-rob" time-travelling teenagers who are still not born save for Lucina? Go get MORE popcorn, people. Double if this involves Avatar/Lucina.
  • Iron Woobie: Cordelia. Not only was she forced to escape a brutal ambush while the rest of her squad stayed behind and were slaughtered (and she says she can still hear their screams,) but the game makes it impossible to pair her with the man she loves! And yet she still remains calm and stoic in spite of all this, and does her best not to bring up her romantic and/or non-romantic woes.
  • It Was His Sled: Due to the game having such a long time between the releases in each region, many of the games' main twists had been spoiled ahead of time. Part of the reason they were so quick to propagate them was out of doubt that they would be released outside of Japan. Even worse, some English trailers close to release (and even some reviews post-release) went the Trailers Always Spoil route. The main things that are regularly known are the identity of "Marth" and, on a related note, the children mechanic. Lucina's presence in the fourth Super Smash Bros. isn't helping matters.
  • It's Easy, so It Sucks: A very common complaint against the game's regular difficulties, mainly due to the plethora of level-grinding spots and hilariously broken mechanics. On the other side, the hardest modes are guilty of "It's Hard, so It Sucks" due to high concentration levels of Fake Difficulty and Luck-Based Mission . Mainly thanks the fact to the trollish, frustating skills the enemies have at random.
  • It's Popular, Now It Sucks: Many veteran Fire Emblem fans are unhappy with the title beginning to overshadow the rest of the series. Awakening also receives disproportionate focus in merchandising, cross-over games (like Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U and Project X Zone 2), and has influenced the next game(s) in the series (to the point that a few characters from Awakening appear in Fates. The generally-lowered difficulty level is a common point of attack.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Severa. For all her selfish spoiled behavior and sniping at everyone in her path (except Noire), she's just as damaged and in need of cuddles as the rest of the children.
    • Inigo as well. Though he can be a pompous jerk and does not know when to quit when trying to hit on women, a lot of his attitude is a facade he constructed to keep the people around him from giving into despair back in the dark future, a facade he's had extreme difficulty throwing off now that he's in the past, he went through hell just as much as the other future children, and almost everyone, even those who can't stand his personality, agrees that he does not deserve what happens to him in his S support with Nah.
  • LGBT Fanbase: As if the gay fans weren't prominent enough (just check out the amount of Tellius, particularly laguz art out there), the male and female cast is bringing the community out in full force. Granted, it's not just gay and lesbian fans falling for same-sex characters. (And don't forget bisexual fans!)
  • Love to Hate: Gangrel and Excellus get a sizable amount of this.
  • Memetic Badass: Frederick, thanks to his excellent tanking abilities in the early game. Brawl in the Family had a field day with this and had two comics where it humorously depicted Frederick as Nigh Invulnerable, even earning his own spot on the weapon triangle where axes, swords and lances all lose to Frederick.
  • Memetic Molester: Male!Avatar. His romance options can range from Chrom's future daughter, Chrom's younger sister, Chrom's older amnesiac sister, and a woman who's pining for Chrom, there's countless jokes of the Avatar violating The Bro Code.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Donny's pot-hat is quite popular among photoshoppers.
    • NUNSWITHAXES, referring to the War Cleric class, which is an axe-wielding priestess.
    • "It's Vaike time!" seems well on its way to becoming this.
    • Some variation of "Where did the characters' feet go?!" This odd character model design choice is surely annoying some fans (and reviewers).
    • "Lucina is the best and most courageous," referring to Lucina's status as both an Iron Woobie and fan favorite for pairing with a Male Avatar.
    • Mentioning Olivia's son's localized name on any forum is bound to result in The Princess Bride references throughout the remainder of the topic.
    • Referring to Panne or Yarne as Killer Rabbits.
      • GIANT KILLER RABBITS!
      • There's also Yarne's statement, "Don't mess with a bunny!"
    • "Pie-re Emblem A-Bake-ening." The prevalence of pies in the English Support conversations has not gone unnoticed in the fandom.
    • "Marth is in this game?" "Which Marth?" This question is brought up by fans when comparing them to the original Marth or Lucina.
      • There's also the variative interpretation of DLC and SpotPass Marth Pr. or King Titles.
    • Kellam? Who's that?note 
      • Discredited Meme: It's fast on it's way to being this. Mostly due to overuse and people missing the point about Kellam's quirk.
      • Related: Kellam is a ninja. (To explain why he's capable of such insane cases of Stealth Hi/Bye despite wearing full armor, and due to him having the Thief line as a reclass option and doing well on it.)
    • SUMIA IS YANDERE! after a glitch was discovered where the image of Sumia appears if you pair Chrom/Maribelle.
    • FIRE-BREATHING BUNNIES (or something similar). A common, popular fan theory of what Yarne and Nah's kids would be like.
    • I WANT TO BE MANHANDLED! Explanation 
    • Darth Validar says: "Avatar, I am your FAUDER!" Explanation (spoilers) 
    • The Summer Scramble Battle Theme was already memetic when it came out... and then fan remixes started showing up using other characters' Voice Grunting. It's only a matter of time before there's a version of it for everyone...
    • Pick a god and pray!
    • Emmeryn and any kind of word that synonymous with "falling" such as "Emmeryn is a pretty lady, I would fall head over heels for her" has been a running joke on message boards.
    • Walhart for best Father of the Year Award. Explanation (spoilers) 
    • 420 Lucina. Explanation (spoilers) 
  • Memetic Loser: Chrom, thanks to Lucina and Robin's character reveal trailer in Super Smash Bros. has him spent 90% of the time lying down on the ground after getting beaten up by Captain Falcon.
  • Memetic Troll:
    • Miriel, mainly due to her For Science! behaviour and some of her Supports, especially Lon'qu's and Stahl's.
    • Chrom, due to his tendency to NTR your Love Interest if he so much as gets to C rank with her.note 
  • Men Act, Women Are: The epilogues for Married couples tend to revolve around what the husband does after the war and how his wife supports his efforts thereafter. Even Lucina, one of the most important characters in the game, gets this treatment in almost all of her paired endings. Of course, there are a few exceptions, Kellam and Stahl/Sully in particular.
  • Moe:
    • Olivia, which is greatly helped by her Shrinking Violet personality.
    • Nowi, who looks (and acts) like a playful child.
    • Lucina, in an understated way. Many fans can't help but find her adorable due to her social awkwardness, her Cry Cute moments, her affection towards her father Chrom and the rest of her family, and her pleasant voice.
    • The vast majority of the female characters in the game, with a few exceptions such as Sully, have some sort of "cute"/"endearing" trait that places them squarely within this trope. Examples include the above three, as well as Sumia's and Cynthia's clumsiness and Severa's archetypical Tsundere nature.
  • Mondegreen: Mostly centered around the battle pair-up and critical lines, which can come out distorted because they trigger at the same time as sound-effects of the same volume. Some include:
    • Chrom: Urine has come! (Your end has come!)
    • Sumia: I'll end this noun! (I'll end this now!)
    • Almost any line from Gregor. It doesn't help that Gregor himself tends to mess up common English sayings.
  • Moral Event Horizon: If Gangrel didn't cross it when he mocked Emmeryn's death, the fact that he threatens his army with death of their families if they desert certainly qualifies. His conversations with Emmeryn (in Hot-Spring Scramble) and the Male Avatar reveals that, though he'd like to fight for redemption, he does consider his former actions to have crossed the line well beyond any hope for him to be redeemed for them.
  • Most Wonderful Sound:
    • Every character's critical quotes. note 
    • Each character's marriage confession scene is accompanied by one line of fully voiced dialogue. It's the perfect conclusion to your Avatar's romance.
    • The sound of a Paired unit jumping in to guard against an enemy's attack or Dual Strike at the enemy. Especially if they get a critical.
  • Narm:
    • Chrom's line whenever the Avatar is killed in battle.
      Chrom: No! Not you, {Avatar's name}! Open your eyes! OPEN YOUR EYES!
    • The localized names of the Deadlords. Yeah, everything sounds more ominous in Latin, but if you actually understand it, some of their names sound quite silly, like "Gallus" (Chicken), even if they are named after the Eastern Zodiac.
  • Never Live It Down:
  • Newer Than They Think:
    • Anna being greedy, and having a Money Fetish was introduced in Awakening. As was the idea of multiple Annas existing at the same time, previous game implied it was always the same character.
    • Grima is not the Shadow Dragon, and has never appeared in any past game. Similarly Grima's Archenemy, The First Exalt is not Marth despite possessing a similar history.
    • While the idea of Animal Shapeshifters was visited before with the Laguz in the Tellius, the Taguel are new to Awakening, and are the first animal shapeshifters to rely on stones.
  • Off Model: Due to relying on the manual art, the spotpass artwork for the cast of Fire Emblem Gaiden is rather off for many characters. Claire is depicted with red, rather then her actual Blue hair color. Relying on the manual art also limited the cast for Gaiden, and as such they are the only game to lack a villain on spotpass. Additionally, since they all take their class outfits from how a generic unit would look in that class, and then staple a customised Avatar face on it, almost none of the characters look like their artwork.
    • Vaike becomes a Noodle Person when he reclasses to Berserker despite being a large, muscular, fellow.
  • Older Than They Think:
  • One-Scene Wonder: Mustafa who only appears in one chapter is one of the most popular antagonists.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap:
    • The Archer/Sniper class is much more useful on Lunatic+, thanks to enemies being able to spawn with the Counter or Vantage+ skill. It's also highly regarded for use in Apotheosis due to strategies placing extreme emphasis on player phase combat through galeforce abuse, and the fact that its extremely high skill, both in caps and pair-up bonuses, makes it indispensable for getting a 100% Dual Strike rate on any pair that doesn't have Chrom or Lucina in it.
  • Replacement Scrappy:
    • Grima for Medeus and to a lesser extent Loptyr, unless he is them.
    • The Villager class for the popular Soldier class; it even uses the same animations.
    • The First Exalt is frequently criticized due to having a history almost exactly like Marth, including having a charismatic, wing Spear wielding Pegasus Knight as a wife, while being a seperate character.
  • The Scrappy:
    • Grima, and Validar are this to some pre-Awakening fans for being clear expies of Jugdral's villains as well as being Obviously Evil. Both are thus accused of lending to the game's Black and White Morality, and Cliché Storm.
    • Inigo and Nah are disliked by many people who resent how difficult they are to support without leaving a bad taste in the player's mouth; Inigo for regularly implying he doesn't plan to give up his flirting even after getting married (or in the Avatar's case, implying he'd break his promise to the Avatar not to do that in his event tile conversations with their own son), and Nah for ranging from an uncomfortably immature Jerkass in some supports (namely with Laurent) to a psychotic, entitled, abusive Yandere in her support with Inigo. While they do both have supports that work (Nah and male Morgan is in fact considered one of the best support sets in the game, and Severa, Kjelle and female Morgan all, while they have rocky starts with Inigo, do end with a pleasant relationship with him), they both have by far the highest concentration of distasteful support conversations in the entire game.
    • The Taguel are this in the Japanese fandom (and to a lesser extent in the western one) due to: being treated as an ancient part of the continent despite being entirely new, how quickly their genocide is dropped, the class being a weaker version of the Manaketes, and being viewed as an inferior version of the Laguz who were controversial to begin with in the Japanese fanbase. Yarne, in particular is the most disliked due to his Lovable Coward portrayal. Both rank very low on the Japanese popularity polls.
  • Scrappy Mechanic:
    • The Villager class would seem to go under this as an entire useless class is not considered needed just to hold one good skill. Possibly crossing over into Replacement Scrappy territory for being playable over Soldier.
    • Nobody likes the supreme lack of Supports the special SpotPass characters get especially considering how Emmeryn and Yen'fay are related to other characters but can only Support Robin. Many also wish Chrom had more female options like Panne, Miriel or Tharja considering, unlike Olivia, they join earlier and wouldn't suffer the red-string strangling she did.
    • Very few players appreciate how reinforcements can act the turn they spawn on any difficulty above Normal. Most consider it a supreme case of Fake Difficulty and Trial-and-Error Gameplay.
  • Ship-to-Ship Combat: Being matchmaking a central game mechanic, this was pretty much inevitable. Take a pair, any pair, and you're bound to find a group of people who will engage with you and anyone who agrees with you in endless Flame War. Bonus points if it's a pair involving any of the three main characters.
  • SNK Boss: A staggering amount of enemies and bosses on Lunatic Mode and Lunatic + Mode. What's even worse is that said difficulties also turns every Reeking Box encountered Risen into one as early as Chapter 4. They have capped stats in all but maybe one area that they will never need, all of them are promoted and equipped with Hit Rate +10, they possess skills from their previous classes while not as aggravating as the Future Past 3 enemies is still not a good thing, and all of them have broken forged weapons. The dev team made level grinding virtually impossible without DLC.
  • Stoic Woobie: Gerome and Laurent, especially Laurent. The poor man got sent back in time a few years too early, forced himself to grow up too fast for it and later admits to his father that the loneliness nearly killed him sometimes.
  • “Stop Having Fun” Guys: The more rabid parts of the Fire Emblem fanbase (see: Reddit and Gamefaqs) are notorious for this, so it shouldn't really be surprising. Admitting you play Casual Mode to "hardcore" FE fans is bound to start some trouble, even if you play it exactly as if it was Classic mode.
  • Strangled by the Red String:
    • With so many pairing possibilities, the quality of the writing in the Support conversations that can end in marriage has ups and downs. The downs come across as this.
    • Chrom and any of his prospect wives can be a specially jarring case if Chrom doesn't reach at least a Support level B or A with one of his possible wives before chapter 11. Especially if he ends up marrying Olivia, who joins the party at the beginning of the chapter. (To be fair, the game absolutely lampshades the crap out of it if this happens). The sad thing is that Olivia's Supports with him have a fair amount of depth and Character Development, with their dynamic having a nice build-up. The problem is that, because Olivia is slated to become playable at the start of Chapter 11 (the one after she's introduced and joins the Shepherds) in order to introduce the Dancing game mechanic, the gameplay doesn't allow you even the illusion of having the Supports actually happening before the prerequisite marriage. If you managed to completely avoid having him interact with any possible candidates including Olivia, he ends up marrying a random villager girl instead. Eh, anything for Lucina.
  • Sturgeon's Law: Mild example. The Avatar has the most Support conversation options out of any character. Especially if not romancing the character in question, many of them are a bit more bland and less personal than between other characters due to the Avatar's fairly down-to-earth personality and lack of personal connection to many of the characters. That said, they're still worth reading for sure.
  • Superlative Dubbing: Similar to Kid Icarus: Uprising, Nintendo opted to use more well known voice actors for the English version. Naturally, this is getting high praise.
  • That One Level:
    • Paralogue 16. Progress through the map involves walls that magically break down and reform at random intervals, adding tedium. There are also Sorcerers with Mire, a dark magic that allows them to attack you from ten spaces away (but it's at least inaccurate).
    • Depending on how well-built all of your characters are, the SpotPass level Paralogue 22: The Wellspring of Truth can be Nintendo Hard. It pits your team of fifteen against... itself. Your only real advantage is the fact that your copies can't use the Pair Up option, but if you have trained up everyone and given them the best possible abilities, it is brutally difficult to win. The level is a rude awakening for players who have been powering through the game with their level-grinded teams. Don't try to be clever and only go with one or two tough characters, either — the game compensates by making fifteen copies of those characters. Your best option is to pick two powerhouses and fill the rest of your ranks with characters you haven't trained fully, Pair Up the powerhouses, and go to town. And that's not even getting into trying to keep Aversa alive when she seems bound and determined to get herself killed.
    • Lunatic Chapter 2. Absurd amount of enemy density, with no one on your team besides Frederick and an over-leveled Avatar being capable of surviving more than 2 attacks with Pair Up. Frederick himself can only survive 5 shots, and this gets worse in Lunatic+.
  • That One Attack: Counter. It's been buffed considerably since its Useless Useful Skill status in the Tellius games. It now always works, and returns the full damage of a melee hit back to the attacker, instead of half. To put it in perspective, that very same ability was previously reserved for the Final Boss of Radiant Dawn! Given that, at the point in the game where you're likely to start seeing enemies with it, your characters are dealing huge amounts of damage with each hit, and you realize how much of a big deal this is. Worse, the enemies that get it are usually Warriors or Entombed, both of which have massive HP but low defense, a recipe for receiving big damage... which is reflected right back at you. A strong melee fighter attacking a Counter-equipped enemy can very easily kill itself, and this is a game with Final Death on Classic mode... yeah. Long range weapons are the only way to avoid it, and that alone makes bow users and other long-range options invaluable on the higher difficulties. Oh, and if you were thinking 'hey, that's great! My Warriors can do it too!', then think again. They technically can, but given that the skill requires taking massive damage to be useful, and Final Death means a lot more to you than it does to the AI, you probably don't want them to. Combined with Miracle, Counter has become a go-to skill in StreetPass for trolling other players who are abusing Lethality. Nothing like dealing a one-shot to yourself while the enemy unit survives with 1HP.
  • Theiss Titillation Theory: Some have remarked that the censorship given to Tharja's Summer Scramble Fanservice actually makes it look sexier than it was originally.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: You have seen the Broken Base section, right?
    • Soiree's Dub Name Change to Sully. See above.
    • Similarly, Ronku's name in the Western version to "Lon'qu" raised some eyebrows.
    • Gregor is an interesting subversion. After seeing a brief snippet of Gregor's dialogue in trailers, the fact he talks in Hulk Speak annoyed some, believing they'd turned him from a Genius Bruiser into a generic Dumb Muscle. Once the English version was released, though, people found he'd been given a Russian Accent Adaptation that was both hilarious and Badass, practically making him an Expy of the Heavy. His popularity proceeded to skyrocket.
    • Some of the Support Conversations were changed drastically in the localization, but the ones that tend to draw the most controversy are Chrom/Sumia and Henry/Olivia. Speaking of Olivia, the localisation changes the story she tells in her Supports with Donnel from a direct Mythology Gag to Naesala and Leanne to a generic swan princess story. Many fans were not happy with this, especially seeing the game is meant to be gigantic Continuity Porn.
    • The game itself: Fire Emblem games traditionally run off of Earn Your Happy Ending or Bittersweet Ending, while this one is pretty much "they lived happily ever after and everything was fixed", right down to the Book Ends ending and the survival of characters like Emmeryn and Gangrel. Needless to say, plenty of fans have complained heavily about this. However, if one takes into consideration that this game could have been the last in the series, it can be justified that they wanted to finish on a high note. Plus, regarding the survival of characters like Emmeryn and Gangrel, that part is entirely optional.
    • Micaiah's new artwork caused a lot of outrage. Unsurprising, considering it's based off of the controversial equal-opportunity fanservice Dark Mage designs, a fate which befell many light magic users returning via spotpass (including Oliver). (Of special note is that all of the Einherjar's portraits are drawn to resemble their starting classes, like Leif having the trickster shirt pattern and Roy having the mercenary shield).
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Xane is a mischievous shapeshifter with close ties to Tiki, Naga, Manaketes in general, as well as being a companion of Marth. Xane's youth, and Dragon blood should allow him to live to the time of Ylisse, yet he isn't even mentioned at all in Awakening. Its notable that in Shozou Kaga's initial plans for Tearring Saga, called Emblem Saga at that point, Xane would've played an important role.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
    • Many fans feel this way about the inability of the SpotPass characters to Support with anyone but the Avatar, most notably Emmeryn's inability to Support with her siblings and Say'ri's inability to Support with Yen'fay, but also the fact that Gangrel and Aversa, who in their chapters had a The Atoner vibe to them, seem pretty much back to normal in their regular conversations, which is why it would have been interesting to see Gangrel/Chrom or Gangrel/Emmeryn, for instance.
    • The Hot-Spring Scramble DLC actually touches on the interactions of most of these pairs! Except for Chrom and Gangrel. But then again, the less those two interact, perhaps the better.
    • Picking the Sacrifice option in the final level always results in the Golden Ending where the Avatar survives their Heroic Sacrifice, making the "Put Grima To Sleep" ending entirely pointless. This despite Naga saying that the Avatar will most likely die, but might survive if their bonds to people are strong enough. It would have been easy to add a check for the Avatar's total Supports with their companions, offering a chance for Earn Your Happy Ending, while also making the other ending more viable to those who didn't Support much but wanted their Avatar to survive.
    • For the Lucina's Judgement scene, there are some players who aren't happy that Chrom defuses the situation between the Avatar and Lucina regardless of whether you choose to accept her judgment or not, and that refusing her when you're neither her mother nor husband (or without at least an A support, given that it should mean a strong friendship and Lucina really is not the type who would kill her friends) should have led to the two of you fighting to the death.
    • The history of Valentia and Fire Emblem Gaiden is barely touched, with Valm's culture essentially being identical to Ylisse's culture with little references to Duma and Mila. Some of Roseanne’s culture gets some expansion in Cherche and Stahl’s supports, but none of it refers to Gaiden.
    • The subject of the Taguel genocide is brought on Panne's recruitment, then essentially dropped and not talked about it for the rest of the game. Exactly when this happened, who the perpetrators were, and what the motives were is never revealed.
    • Nah and Laurent's Support. They both have issues about being 'serious' people who have had to grow up fast for different reasons; Nah because she was a half-Manakete left with an unkind foster family, Laurent because he ended up in the past five years earlier than everyone else. Their Support conversations could easily have used this as common ground between them, without needing to refer directly to Supports the player may not have unlocked. Yet instead we get a tasteless 'joke' about the entirely decent Laurent being mistaken for a pedophile.
    • They also seriously missed a trick by not allowing Flavia and Basilio to reach S support. Why not let the pair who are like an old married couple actually become one?
    • Cordelia and Libra's supports could have dealt with their mutual Survivor Guilt (his fellow priests, her wingmates). The whole support chain is him trying to save her from her Workaholic ways when she faints after taking on too much, and a surprise "btw, I know you love Chrom" in the S rank. In fact, some fans feel a lot of Cordelia's supports missed out on dealing with her feelings about her wingmates, given that's her defining character moment when she comes in.
  • Tier-Induced Scrappy:
    • Units who lack access to Galeforce often get the shaft by hardcore players due to being unable to move twice in the same turn. Or at least that's the initial impression one gets; the real opinion among experts is more complicated. Non-Galeforce units, called "hard supports" because they support a partner with Galeforce and never go up front themselves, are actually extremely valuable damage dealers, and in fact do the majority of damage when you're using brave weapons. Some male non-Galeforce units, particularly Yarne, are considered to be extremely good units, especially if they have access to Berserker class and the Sniper's Hit+20 skill, because their damage output is absolutely devastating.
    • Zig-zagged for Donnel and the children, but in different ways. Donnel is of the Villager class, and takes some time to get going, but once he does he can solo most of the story mode until he hits his caps, whereupon other units become better than him. The children meanwhile start at a somewhat low level, but can become your most powerful units with grinding, but Lunatic difficulty sours this a lot for the kids with the harder Paralogues, while the ones with the easier ones are still somewhat feasible. The DLC called "Apotheosis" however has units that are so powerful that using Donnel, or really any characters that aren't skill-trained maxed-out children, is out of the question. Thankfully, Donnel winds up coming out on top of his dueling Magikarp Power and Crutch Character natures due to the fact that he is one of three fathers (one of whom being the male Avatar) that can pass down Galeforce to the three daughters who otherwise can't get it (Kjelle, Nah and Noire).
    • Archers and Snipers in general aren't liked very well as units due to their Crippling Overspecialization. In Lunatic+ mode, however, they are much more useful due to their effective Counter immunity, and for Apotheosis their usefulness in the opinion of experts is pretty high too.
  • Unfortunate Character Design:
    • Many have noted that the neck portion of the Cavalier class's armor looks like a toilet bowl, which more noticeable with Sully and Stahl. It can be taken as a Stealth Pun due to the localized names of Sully and Stahl.
    • The Revenant's and Entombed's hoods look awfully familiar...
    • On Sumia's breastplate the swirling designs create a circle right where her nipples should be. Oops?
    • It didn't start with Awakening, but most of the female classes have exposed thighs, including those who ride on horses, pegasi, or especially wyverns. Let's just say there's a good reason why real-life horseback riders usually have more padding in that area, not less.
  • Unfortunate Implications:
  • Values Dissonance:
    • The game's translation is pretty faithful, for the most part... except for Nowi's character being radically changed. The implications of someone who looks and acts like a child being a romantic option (despite being Really 700 Years Old) are much more unfortunate in America than in Japan.
    • Tharja's swimsuit scene in Summer Scramble was not censored in the European version (which came out after the US one), as their skimpy outfits and Fanservice are generally not considered grounds to rate a game higher than the equivalent of T.
    • Lucina, Chrom's canon daughter, can marry Owain, Lissa's canon son. The North American version attempts to hide this by labeling them "Companions" in the "Husband/Wife" slot on the stat screen and removing talk of marriage from their S Support, but they give each other the same love-quotes in Events together as they do any of their other possible spouses...
    • And so can a Chrom!Cynthia or Chrom!Kjelle, for that matter. Similarly, Morgan can end up marrying her uncle (Brady or Inigo if either of them is Lucina's brother) or his aunt (Lucina herself if either of the previous is Morgan's father). Lastly, if Lissa marries the male Avatar, Morgan and Chrom!Inigo or Chrom!Brady will end up Kissing Cousins if you pair them.
  • Vanilla Protagonist: Compared to the rest of the supporting cast, some of which have rather quirky gimmicks, the Avatar's main personality gimmick is a fairly down-to-earth fascination with strategy.
  • Video Game Caring Potential: Players often treat Morgan and Lucina as their actual child/children. This also extends to the other children of the character their Avatar married, specially Noire. Sometimes to creepy degrees.
  • What an Idiot:
    • Prior to Chapter 2, after Maribelle (the mounted healer) leaves the room in repulse after Vaike burped, Chrom enters the room to deliver the news about the expedition to Regna Ferox. No one decided to look for Maribelle and invite her to join the expedition. If they did, she wouldn't have been kidnapped when the Plegians attack another area of Ylisse, Themis, she wouldn't have been falsely accused of being spy, and the Ylissean Plegian war wouldn't have started sooner! And on top of that, Emmeryn probably would've lived and not had to commit Heroic Suicide (like in Chapter 9)!
    • Gameplay example: Many of the enemy commanders will loudly proclaim that reinforcements are coming to "surprise" the enemy, not realizing that the Shepherds (or at least the Avatar) can hear exactly what he's saying! Granted, they aren't surprise attackers, but just reinforcements in hopes to overrun you from as many sides as possible.
  • What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs?: The Fortune Telling option. Then again, the DLC reveals that the fortune teller himself is a major Cloudcuckoolander, so it's probably to be expected.
  • Win Back the Crowd: The game saved the series from cancellation after declining sales from earlier Fire Emblem titles.
  • The Woobie: Being such a character-driven game, it's not at all surprising there's so many.
    • Kellam's inability to be seen by people quickly goes from funny to mildly depressing. It culminates in his potential endings. With a wife, his name is lost to history, and in his solo ending, he leaves the Shepherds to travel the world - and it's years before his friends ever notice. The only ending for him that can be considered good is if he is married to the female Avatar.
    • All of the children definitely qualify, being born during the bad timeline where most of their parents die is enough to feel sorry for them. The Future Past DLC, however, turns this Up to Eleven.
      • Noire, Tharja's future daughter is usually someone you want to give a hug to, since she was abused by Tharja from the Bad Future by being her guinea pig for hexes.
      • Brady, Maribelle's son, looks like a bandit, has really poor self esteem, and wishes to be strong like the rest of the army.
      • Yarne, Panne's son, has the responsibilities of being the last of his kind weigh far heavier on him and has some serious courage issues. Having grown up in a Bad Future and having your father break his promise of returning from battle will do that to you.
      • Morgan probably has it better than the other children, due to their origins being such a mystery, but it's still saddening that they don't remember their non-Avatar parent. In their A support with said parent, Morgan breaks down crying when they can't remember their parent. According to their ending, they never even recover their memories, though it's said Morgan doesn't particularly mind.
      • From the first generation there's also Ricken, a boy from an impoverished noble family who's been heavily bullied and has trouble being taken seriously by those he admires due to his age and height.
      • Tiki and Nowi are both manaketes who live for thousands of years. Nowi is well aware she'll outlive everyone she loves and is shown to cry about it, while Tiki has sadly come to accept this fact despite memories of how painful it was to lose Marth and the others and knowing she'll outlive Say'ri and anyone else she befriends.
    • Libra's parents wrongly assumed he was possessed and abandoned him, and he was completely alone until he joined the priesthood. Then all his fellow men of the cloth died against Gangrel's might. His inner pain is so strong it even scares his potential wife Tharja.
    • Maribelle is this and a Jerkass Woobie. She's prickly and snobbish, but as a child this caused all the other children to hate her and spread rumors about her. She was terribly lonely until Lissa reached out to her.
    • Sumia has next to no self-esteem, to the point where she loses herself in books so she doesn't have to think about how pathetic she feels. She tries her best to help everyone out, but her clumsiness usually makes things worse and she usually ends up in tears.
    • Virion. We are first introduced to him as a womazining braggart that most characters treat with contempt. Not only do his supports reveal he is one of the nicest guys there is, if only a braggart, but he also was forced to surrender his land of Rosanne to Walhart's conquest because his people were ready to fight Walhart for him but he knew that doing so would send them to certain death, leaving him with the choice of surrendering and running away to live for another day and rally up allies to stop Walhart, or stand his ground and watch his people die. After that reveal, it's hard to not feel for the guy, especially with the harsh comments people can make about him in early supports.
  • Woolseyism: The Western localizations are full of them.
    • Chrom's army's name goes from simply "Chrom's Vigilantes" to "The Shepherds", lending a metaphorical connotation to an otherwise generically-named faction. (As Frederick mentions in the prologue, they guard the "sheep", i.e. the defenseless citizens threatened by war.)
    • Marth (the DLC character, not the story one) has the class "Star Lord" in the Japanese version of the game. Sounds cool, but it doesn't have any actual meaning. The English release changes his class name to Lodestar, sidestepping a potential Dub Induced Plothole with Shadow Dragon at the same time. It also helps that the Lodestar is the North Star, which sailors used to use to find their path. Like the Lodestar, Marth is constantly looked up to by everyone as a hero, and Lucina even takes on his name and perceived personality.
    • The thief's name went from the feminine Gaia to the more masculine-sounding Gaius.
    • Nowi's original name was Nono, which sounds silly to American and British ears. Also, her dialogue was changed to make her sound more mature, and her English voice is a little more teen-sounding. This helps tone down the Unfortunate Implications on romancing her in the Japanese version and also, they significantly lessened her Third-Person Person dialogue as well (though the difference in how much players appreciate or condemn these kinds of changes, which are typically only made for the sake of being politically correct and/or prevent supposed controversy is often cause and fuel for a Flame War).
    • There is a similar approach for Ricken, as his voice acting is also more teen-sounding to avoid the same Unfortunate Implications and Double Standard when romancing him. note  Similarly, Nah's Supports with her father go from calling him out for being a Lolicon to wondering if he was forced to marry her mother because he got her... Many find this to be much funnier. Then it becomes hilarious if Henry's her father. note 
    • It was inevitable with Nn... Justified, obviously. Her name was changed to Nah.
    • Marc's name was changed to Morgan in the West. As this character can be either gender, changing their name to the gender-neutral Morgan certainly works.
    • With regards to legacy weapons, Swanchika becoming Helswath has been very well-received by most of the fandom. Helswath is an example of every language localization getting it right in their own way: German and Spanish names are Hels Zorn and Phuria, both really good-sounding names for it.
    • The translation took out a LOT of Old Hubba's homophobia and otherwise toned down some of his more uncomfortable dialogue.
    • The English version managed to fit a Title Drop into the name of a late-game chapter. (The chapter was just called "The Holy Ruler's Successor" in the Japanese version)
    • Chapter 18 also takes place in a volcano that's named "Doma's Remains". Given that Fire Emblem Gaiden wasn't actually released outside of Japan, it'd make most western gamers think "...Huh?". They actually bypassed this Continuity Lockout by naming it the Demon's Ingle. This actually works—and since its significance isn't actually important apart from a small Call Back to Gaiden, it still works. Of course, they still have a temple of Mila and the Mila tree untouched in the western version, but they don't actually show any significance apart from just simple theme naming.
    • Henry's personality in the localization, to some.
    • Allegedly, the "pies" were bento boxes in the Japanese script. While making sense to Japan, not everyone really knows of bento boxes outside of Japan... nor does it make sense in a Medieval European setting like Fire Emblem. However, pies, on the other hand are not only a well-known food object in the west, but also were indeed consumed throughout history. On top of that, there's a type of pie called a... Shepherd's Pie. Quite the pun when you think of it.
    • In one of the more significant character changes, Gregor went from being a typical Cool Old Guy mercenary to a loud boisterous Foreigner who "makes with many humorous japing." To say it was well-received would be an understatement.
    • The relationship between Owain and Lucina (as well as Cynthia and Kjelle if Chrom marries either Sumia or Sully, respectively) is labeled "Companions" instead of "Wife/Husband" to avoid the cousin incest taboo as mentioned in Values Dissonance.
    • A very minor Translation Correction occurred in Panne's generic Barracks dialogue. Her Japanese quote translates to "Humans are somewhat strong creatures too. [Name], how about we fight together next time?" It's possible to have her say that to one of the army's Manaketes, who obviously aren't human. So the English version changed it to "It seems the Taguel aren't the only strong beings out there."
    • Another Translation Correction: In the original Japanese version, when Robin calls Chrom by name at the beginning despite never meeting him, Chrom confusedly asks Robin "How do you know my name?". This eventually stops making any sense whatsoever once it's revealed in-story a chapter or two later that Chrom is the prince of Ylisse, meaning there would be several hundred plausible reasons why Robin would know Chrom's name. The English localization fixes this by changing his line to "Ah, then you know who I am?", which is much more in line with what a famous figure would say upon being addressed by name by a stranger.
    • The Non-English localizations also had a good amount of Woolseyism on their own. Here are some examples from the Spanish version:
      • The term "Shepherds" (which in Spanish would be "pastores") for "Custodios" ("custodians"), which make it sound more epic.
      • On a similar note, the title "Exalt" (which direct translation doesn't make much sense in Spanish as a title) was changed to "Venerable."
      • Donnel's (written) accent in Spanish, which is like a mix of several countryside Spaniard accents.
      • Virion's speech is very reminiscent of the Spanish from the sixteenth century (basically, the era when the Dashing Hispanic trope was codified), albeit in an Affectionate Parody fashion, which fits his personality to a T.
    • The twelve dead warriors from Jugdral fame, brought back in Awakening, were changed from the slightly generic "Dark Warlords" to the more menacing "Deadlords", and their names were changed from German numbers to Latin names of the animals in the Eastern Zodiac. The group are also called by the similarly menacing "Seigneurs des Ombres" (the Lords of Shadow) in France, the "Todesfürsten" (the Lords of Death) in Germany, and the "Resurgidos" (the Arisen) in Spain.
    • Lon'qu's name change to "Lon'zu" in the non-English translations was particularly convenient for French: phonetically, Lon'qu sounds the same in French as "long cul" (which translates roughly to long ass).
    • Morgan's name was changed to "Linfan", a changed that benefited the French translation more than the other languages. First, because the feminine name for Morgan in French takes an extra "e" in the end. Second, "Linfan" sounds very similar to "L'enfant", the French word for "the child".
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