11th-Hour Ranger

"(Sigh) Here I am, a brand new member of the Shining Force... and already we're fighting Dark Dragon. Why me?"
Torasu, Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon

A subtrope of the Sixth Ranger. The Sixth Ranger is always someone who joins an ensemble later on and changes it into another type. However, sometimes, they decide to take their sweet time and don't join the group until much, much later. So much later that the term "late to the party" is a gross understatement.

An Eleventh Hour Ranger is any person who joins an ensemble right before or during the endgame/Grand Finale, sometimes even right before the Final Boss fight.

Compare Last Episode, New Character, Gondor Calls for Aid and 11th-Hour Superpower.

This is an Ending Trope. Spoilers.


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    Anime & Manga 
  • Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann has Lordgenome join the heroes for the Final Battle against the Anti-Spiral. While technically he'd been with the heroes a while earlier as a disembodied head acting as their Wetware CPU, it's only after his bodies regenerates that he officially helps the heroes in the battle with an appropriately awesome Heroic Sacrifice.
  • In Ronin Warriors the Dark Warlords perform a Heel–Face Turn at the very end, serving this function.
  • Kaworu Nagisa in Neon Genesis Evangelion, coming from nowhere to be the last pilot two episodes before the last episode. He turns out to be a Sixth Ranger Traitor.
  • Pokémon 3: Ash already has a complete team of six at the time of the film. Just when things are going bad for him at the climax of the movie, his Charizard makes a comeback to help in the battle.
    • In the Diamond and Pearl series, Ash's Gible and Dawn's Togekiss were this, having been caught at the end of Galactic Battles and just a few episodes before the Grand Festival in Sinnoh League Victors, respectively.
  • Akasaka in Higurashi: When They Cry is introduced about halfway through the series but doesn't become a reliable ally until the final act. Even in the penultimate arc, his appearance only serves as a Hope Spot for Rika but isn't of any use in the end.
  • Cobra in Chapter 329 of Fairy Tail, after a request from Jellal for him to be freed from prison to help the other six Dragon Slayers fight against Future Rogue and his seven dragons.
    • An even better example would be Anna Heartfilia, Lucy's ancestor from 400 years ago who was revealed to have traveled to the present day seven years before the start of the story showing up late in the final Story Arc to help defeat Acnologia.
  • Digimon Xros Wars features a Crisis Crossover with the past five Digimon series at its finale, but unfortunately they only show up in the last two episodes.
  • Pretty Cure has a few. In Futari Wa Pretty Cure Splash Star, the Kiryuu sisters join the Cures near the end of the season. In Fresh Pretty Cure! former enemies Westar and Soular fight alonsgside the Cures in the last three episodes. Similarly, the third to last episode of Smile Pretty Cure! has fairy mascot Candy transform into Royale Candy. And then there's DokiDoki! Precure's Regina, who joins the Cures in the last few episodes after spending much of the series in the Heel–Face Revolving Door.
  • In the Grand Finale of Samurai Pizza Cats, Bad Bird has a Heel–Face Turn and joins the good guys for the final battle.

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    Films — Animation 
  • Kung Fu Panda 2: Masters Croc and Ox refuse to join the heroes, believing that Lord Shen is unbeatable and that their involvement will only make things worse. During the climax, Shifu turns up with them in tow to pull a Big Damn Heroes moment and participate in the final battle.
  • My Little Pony: Equestria Girls – Rainbow Rocks has Sunset Shimmer and, to a lesser extent, DJ-Pon 3. For the latter, it's revealed just before the climax that she is unaffected by the Dazzlings' music due to always wearing her headphones. This allows her to free the Rainbooms and provide a sound stage for the final battle. For the former, Sunset is the only person with any magic affinity left to fight the Dazzlings when the others fall during the final battle, saving the others and finally becoming an accepted part of the group.
  • The Incredibles: Frozone shows up to help take down The Omnidroid during the final battle. He'd also spent some time working with Bob at the film's beginning, when they were doing unsanctioned superheroics, before spending the bulk of the movie at home and unaware of events on Sydrome's island.

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    Live-Action TV 
  • Super Sentai and Power Rangers, Trope Namers by proxy, have a few examples:
    • Bakuryuu Sentai Abaranger has Mikoto/AbareKiller, who joins the fight right at the end thanks to a last-second Heel–Face Turn. (For the record, Power Rangers Dino Thunder has their White Ranger join the heroes earlier, then an evil clone was created so they could use the Heel!AbareKiller footage.)
    • Power Rangers S.P.D. has the Nova Ranger, an ally of the Future Badass Sixth Ranger, who arrives in the middle of the final battle while searching the timestream for him.
    • Mahou Sentai Magiranger and Power Rangers Mystic Force had two characters join the Rangers' side just in time to face N Ma-sama/the Master: MagiMother/the White Ranger, either presumed dead (in Magiranger) or The Mentor whose powers were out of commission (in Mystic Force) for most of the season; and Wolzard Fire/Wolf Warrior, who had been Brainwashed and Crazy as The Dragon Wolzard/Koragg.
    • Some consider Juken Sentai Gekiranger's Rio and Mele an example thanks to a joint Heel–Face Turn in the last two episodes, despite their never officially being acknowledged as Gekirangers. The reason why it's only "some" is because they die redeeming themselves. Power Rangers Jungle Fury not only plays it straight, but straighter than straight, having all seven mentors, the Spirit Rangers, and Jarrod and Camille join in the final battle. And nobody dies in this version.
    • Kaoru in Samurai Sentai Shinkenger and her counterpart Lauren in Power Rangers Samurai are a subversion. They're introduced late in their respective series and join the heroes, but then get injured and are forced to sit out the final battle.
    • Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger has the team's mentor, Wise God Torin join the team as Kyoryu Silver, the shining Brave, shortly before the final arc. Averted with his successor Dantetsu who simply fills Torin's place. While Yuko and Shinya had predecessors, Ramirez and Shinya's ancestor Tessai, who showed up to assist the team early on from time to time, the two successors join the team in the final two episodes.
    • Power Rangers Dino Charge utilizes this in the first season finale- Kendall Morgan becomes the Purple Ranger halfway through the episode, and her Zord ends up being the deciding factor in the fighting against the Big Bad.
  • Angel: Illyria becomes part of the team for the last six or seven episodes. As she's replacing Fred Burkle, she is played by the same actress. Since she's very strong (due to being a De-powered Elder God), she is able to help out a lot in the final battles.
  • Breaking Bad has Todd and Lydia, both of whom are introduced and become integral parts of Walt's drug empire during the final season.
  • How I Met Your Mother waits until the ninth and final season to add the titular mother to the main cast.
  • House of Anubis didn't have Jerome join Sibuna in the first season until the very end, after he had been revealed to be working for Rufus Zeno and needed protection from him. In the second season, he helps out earlier on.
    • Eddie doesn't join the team until the very end of season 2, after he is revealed as the Osirian. Justified, because until the characters found out about his special destiny, he had no reason to get involved, and didn't even know what was going on until after he helped out.
    • Willow could count, as she doesn't get involved until the finale of Season 3, but only because she wasn't a sinner at the time. However, that doesn't last long.
    • Joy, in spite of being very important in the season 1 mystery, didn't get the chance to join Sibuna again until the end of the second season. Justified again, as she only got involved when they needed her to help them save Nina.
  • Penny Dreadful introduces the character of Catriona Hartegan only three episodes before the Grand Finale, but she's still a part of the team that finds its way to Dracula's lair to rescue Vanessa.
  • In the Arrow Season 3 finale, Team Arrow is captured and is sitting in the dungeons of Nanda Parbat, surrounded by Assassins. Then Barry Allen swoops in and shows that the entire League is hopelessly outclassed by the Fastest Man Alive, before freeing the prisoners. It turns out that Oliver asked Barry to rescue his friends.

  • Throughout the first BIONICLE film, Mask of Light, the 6-man team of Toa Nuva are desperately trying to defend their villages from the vicious Rahkshi, Makuta's most powerful troops and a six man band of their own. They overwhelm the Toa, and the Toa's Elemental Powers don't help them much. Luckily, two villagers find the legendary Mask of Light, which prophecies the arrival of a seventh Toa with the power to destroy the darkness. After one of them gets killed fighting a Rahkshi, the other realizes he is meant to be the Toa. He puts on the mask, becomes a Toa, and proceeds to mop the floor with the Rahkshi in about 30 seconds. Then he goes to fight Makuta one-on-one.

    Video Games 
  • Kingdom Hearts II has Riku being purified of his darkness, and becomes a playable member for the final level (and even in the subsequent Final Boss Fights as your only partner).
  • In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Sonic the Hedgehog joins the cast in the cutscene right before the fight against the Final Boss in story mode.
  • Depending on your decisions in the two Digital Devil Saga games, Heat can join your party in The Very Definitely Final Dungeon.
  • In Jade Empire, the player character can force Death's Hand to join the party right before the final battle. Though most of your followers won't be happy with your decision.
  • In the PSP release of Growlanser Wayfarer Of Time, you can recruit Tricia, your senior from the academy for the last three battles of the game.
  • Although you can recruit Legion in Mass Effect 2 at pretty much any time during the last third of the game, you can only get the game's best ending if you 1.) Hold off completing the relevant mission until you've finished nearly all the other missions and assignments or 2.) Leave all other uncompleted missions and assignments until the post-game. Since the character in question ended up becoming popular among the fanbase despite lacking the screentime of the rest of the party members, BioWare made up for it by giving Legion a large role in the main plot of Mass Effect 3.
  • Loghain in Dragon Age: Origins can be recruited into your party just before the final battle if you spare him. Doing so will cause you to lose Alistair though. Oghren isn't quite as bad but he doesn't come up until half-way through the dwarven section, intended to be played just before the endgame plot kicks off and well past the 3/4 mark. It was because of this Oghren returns in the Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening expansion.
  • In Final Fantasy II, Leon joins just before the final dungeon.
  • FuSoYa from Final Fantasy IV. He joins you abruptly a few hours before the end of the game, and then promptly leaves. He exists only to fill the fifth party member slot when Kain's Heel–Face Revolving Door is on the other side again.
    • Made very explicit when you discover that when he gains levels, nothing happens, not even HP gain.
  • Gabranth in Final Fantasy XII joins the party as a guest for the Final Boss.
  • In Final Fantasy VI, Umaro and Gogo are only available in the World of Ruin toward the end of the game. Relm and Strago are a lesser example, showing up a bit earlier, but still almost at the very end of the World of Balance.
  • Final Fantasy Tactics has Alma, who despite being in your roster at one time, only help you fight against the endgame boss.
  • Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, similar to Dragon Quest IX below, won't let you have any special character (other than Montblanc) joining your clan until you've beaten the main storyline. The only one member you can get before the final boss is Ezel, via a series of subquests.
  • The Fire Emblem series has an entire Archetype of this, called Gotoh after the first such character. Other members of this archetype are Sety and Galzus in Thracia 776, Karel in The Binding Blade (who only shows up in a Perfect Run Final Boss playthrough), Athos in The Blazing Blade, Tibarn, Naesala, and Giffca in Path of Radiance, Caineghis and Giffca (and arguably also Tibarn, Naesala, and Nailah) in Radiant Dawn (also Lehran on a second playthrough if certain conditions are met), Nagi in Shadow Dragon (again only if certain conditions are met, and getting her means Gotoh won't join your party) and in New Mystery. (Also Michalis if certain conditions are met.)
    • Fire Emblem Awakening spices this up with a handful of powerful endgame units through Spotpass with several stat focuses: Gangrel, whose main advantage is speed and luck, Walhart, with a high balance yet a focus on strength, Emmeryn, with a focus on magic, Yen'fay, with a focus on skill and speed, Aversa, who's entirely balanced but has access to dark magic, and Priam, who has a focus on possessing high strength and skill coupled with five very useful abilities. Morgan also counts, since s/he can possess infinite potential and have his/her parents be anyone in the entire game.
      • A more classic example from the same game: after helping you throughout the game, Basilio and Flavia join your party in one of the final chapters.
  • The original Shining Force has Hanzou the Ninja, who joins as a hidden character right before the last battle. The GBA version changed this.
  • River City Ransom EX has Ivan Popov, who, if certain conditions are met, can be recruited literally at the gates of River City High, where Slick and the Dragon Twins are holed up.
  • Super Robot Wars Original Generation 1 has Elzam and Sanger join right at the end. The sequel has them join about 2/3's in instead
    • However, OG2 also features Einst Alfimi as an available party member, who literally joins your party for half of the last mission unless you get the Bonus Boss fight, in which case she's available for that as well. In fact, several Super Robot Wars games feature such characters - Alpha Gaiden, for instance, allows you to acquire Sanger just before the game's end, piloting the absurdly powerful Thrudgelmir, if the proper conditions are fulfilled. If the player has enough money on hand to upgrade it fully...
    • OG Gaiden has a slew of them: Axel Almer, Einst Alfimi (again), Despoiniz and Shu Shirakawa (though the latter ends up betraying the team for the final battle)
    • 2nd OG isn't too bad with this as even usual late joiners like Axel and Shu (who doesn't betray you this time) are permanently part of the team by at least prior to the homestretch of the game. Of course there are a few like Alfimi. Touma is an interesting case. He gets Raioh on stage 49 giving you about 13 to 14 stages to use him, which is a decent amount. But he still joins unusually late for a character on the cover and intro of the game, and who was advertised significantly.
    • It's actually common in a number of games to get last-minute reinforcements, starting with Ingram in Super Robot Wars Alpha. Other notable ones include Schwartz, Julia, Zechs (if you unlocked Heero), and Heinel (if you unlocked him) in Shin, Irui Ganeden in Alpha 3, Al-Van Ranks in J, Applicant in W, Xine and Asakim, although Asakim's exclusive to the Rand-route in Z, and Margaret Reeds in Z2-1.
    • Master Therion is the most powerful secret character in Super Robot Wars UX. He has the best default stat in the game (higher than Kuro) as well as the same skill set as when he was an enemy. The Liber Legis also has a default S rank in every terrain too. It's bonus is +300 attack power for both Melee and range weapon, immune to status change and a 35% special evasion. And the most important thing is that he has the "Soul" Spirit Command.
  • Kurtis in Disgaea: Hour of Darkness joins a few battles before the end, on the very last world.
    • In Disgaea 3, Master Big Star and Salvatore The Magnificent join you right before the last two storyline fights against Super Hero Aurum. They leave when the story's over though, and have to be defeated in the postgame to get them to permanently join your party.
  • .hack games have a tendency to drop new party members into the group right near the finale. Redemption, in particular, gives you an absolutely huge dump of previously unavailable party members just before the last sequences, among them Bordeaux, Alkaid, and Shino.
    • Not only that, you can unlock Natsume and Tabby after the game "ends". (And the Azure Knights.)
  • Final Fantasy Legend II has Isis join your party for the final dungeon. She's insanely powerful, but you have to fight the final boss without her because there are two of them and Isis has to fight the other one.
  • Final Fantasy Legends III has a Gotoh-like mutant join your party at the end. The game has several guest star party members.
  • Depending on the choices you make throughout Devil Survivor, Amane, Black Frost, Gin, Izuna, Kaido, Mari, and Naoya can join your party on the final day or even the Overclocked-exclusive 8th Day.
  • The remakes of Dragon Quest IV, a playable epilogue has a revived and reformed Psaro, the Big Bad of the main game's story join with the heroes and take on The Chessmaster who was the real mastermind behind the events of the main game's story.
  • Dragon Quest IX lets you create your very own customizable party members to take with you on your adventures. However, there are actually 5 characters you meet in the game who will join your party after completing their respective quests. These quests, however, are not only on a DLC schedule, but aren't available until after you've beaten the game.
  • In Dawn of War 2, Captain Gabriel Angelos joins your marines for the final battle, at the end of the last level of the campaign.
  • In Record Of Agarest War every single protagonist and their respective women from the previous four generations come back to you and will help you kick the asses of six gods.
  • Radiata Stories has over one-hundred-and-fifty recruitable characters, but the most powerful and competent fighters cannot be recruited until late in the game: Elwen, Kain, Curtis, Nyx and Natalie for the humans and Galvados, JJ and Gruel for nonhumans.
  • Dr. Naomi Hunter in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. She'd been in the first game as part of the Mission Control-with-an-agenda, but doesn't really join Team Snake until part-way through the heroes' final mission. Turns out, more of an Eleventh Hour Ranger Traitor. Except not. We think...
  • Himi in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn, and to a lesser degree Eoleo. Subtly lampshaded in the final dungeon when Arcanus shows up— everyone is shocked and outraged except these two, who don't know who he is.
  • In Fallout 3, you can't recruit Super Mutant Fawkes until after you've dealt with President Eden and escaped from Raven Rock. While you can still explore the world and complete side-quests with him, you're pretty much at the end of the game's main story line at that point.
    • Likewise for Liberty Prime, who only gets activated once the final main quest starts, and you're past the Point of No Return (unless you have Broken Steel installed, and he gets killed in the first quest of that).
  • In Wasteland, you can recruit an android robot named VAX in The Very Definitely Final Dungeon. He has the best stats of any recruitable NPC in the game.
  • In Arcanum: Of Steamworks & Magick Obscura, upon entering the Very Definitely Final Dungeon, you're given the opportunity to recruit several new party members (if by some stroke of fate you entered with none). These include Arronax, the person you've been led to believe is the game's Big Bad. Turns out he's repented of his misdeeds, and it's another of The Void's prisoners that's the one behind the world's chaos. Others are a giant hungry demon, an evil warlord, and a human magically transformed into a dragon.
  • MS Saga: A New Dawn has Hal. He joins and leaves quite frequently in the beginning of the game, but his notable point in joining permanently is right before the final boss, while piloting a Sazabi.
  • In the Japan-only PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia, Flynn kind of takes this role. He joins your team at the end of each arc in the story (with maybe one or two bit exceptions) and doesn't permanently join until right before the final dungeon of the game.
  • When you encourage the Yehat in Star Control 2 to rebel against their queen, they spend most of their time fighting the loyalists. Then right before the final battle, they contact you and mention the results of the rebellion.
  • Gandar in Valkyrie Profile is unavailable until the final period, and can't be sent up to Valhalla. Suo and Lyseria may also count, being only available as the last einherjar you're gonna to meet.
  • Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II has the title character, who only joins the playable roster in the very last portion of the game where the Z warriors collect the dragonballs and then fight Cell.
  • Golyat in Tears to Tiara 2 first show up commanding his legions to crush Hispania's rebellion. As he retreats, Hamil offers him land grants for his veterans if he switch sides, something The Empire did in its heyday. He admits the offer is very enticing but it's too late and they'll loose. Fast forward to the final approach on Alba Longa, as the Party wonder if any of The Empire's legions will switch sides, they find him having already put the city under siege and is waiting for them.
  • In Yu-Gi-Oh! Reshef of Destruction, Obelisk the Tormentor is the last Egyptian God Card and the last overall that you get in the main story.
    • Yami Yugi reappears before you duel Reshef and helps weaken him to the point where he can be defeated.
  • At the end of the last dungeon before Doom Island, Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals has Dekar rejoin the party, having returned from the Heroic Sacrifice that previously removed him from the team.
  • In Star Wars: The Old Republic, the Sith Inquisitor gets their final companion Xalek just before Corellia, the penultimate planet of all storylines. As such, he's pretty much superfluous to the storyline since he appears too late to contribute anything to the Inquisitor's plans aside from being around to legitimize your political power.
  • In the first X-Men Legends Psylocke doesn't join the team until the game's final three missions.
  • The single-player campaign of Telepath Tactics has Gunther Lathe, an old foe who performs a Heel–Face Turn right before the Final Battle.
  • Stella Glow: Giselle pulls a Heel–Face Turn in the final chapter if you've met the conditions to reach the Golden Ending, though you can still see the other endings in a run where you've recruited her based on your choices during the final battle.
    • To a lesser extent, Veronica. She actually joins fairly early in the penultimate chapter, barely any time at all after the Harbingers who joined at the end of the previous chapter, but she otherwise fits the bill for a late-game powerhouse, having access to magic of all four elements, a Status Buff[[The Red Mage, and a ]]Status Debuff, an ability that deals bonus damage to the enemy type you'll be facing in every story battle thereafter, and being level 37 when the aforementioned characters that joined a grand total of one story battle earlier were levels 28-30.
  • Towards the end of Jak 3: Wastelander, Damas will pull a Big Damn Heroes moment for Jak and Daxter (by driving a large vehicle into several Dark Makers) and become a Guest-Star Party Member after that. Like FuSoYa of Final Fantasy IV, Damas does not stick around for the final boss, as he dies not long afterwards.
  • The last party member in Persona 2: Innocent Sin, Jun Kurosu, doesn't join until the end of the Caracol dungeon, at which point there isn't a whole lot of story left. Justified in that up until this point, he was the main villain, with his father taking over the role when he joins the heroes.
  • In the original release of Devil Survivor, out of 12 playable characters, 7 of them don't join you until the 7th and final day. In the Updated Rerelase Overclocked, depending on whether you complete an optional battle during Yuzu's 8th day, Kaido joins you either midway through or with only a couple of hours left before the final battle; similarly, in Naoya's good 8th day, Yuzu, Midori, and Izuna re/join you with an hour or so before the final showdown.
  • In Devil Survivor 2, you get to control most of the heroes by the end of day 4. However, Yamato, Ronaldo, and the Anguished One don't join you until either the beginning of their respective 7th days (for all three) or midway through Daichi's 7th day (for Yamato and Ronaldo). In the Anguished One's route, Joe cannot be convinced to rejoin the party until midway through the 8th and final day with only an hour or two before the Final Boss.
    • In the Triangulum arc introduced in the Updated Re-release Record Breaker, the Anguished One and Miyako don't join you until midway through the 4th and effectively final day (well, unless you count the 3 hours that bleed into the early morning).

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    Web Original 
  • Jay in Ruby Quest shows up and joins the party in the second-to-last-thread. He wasn't even supposed to be one of these. He was found in the water filtration unit impaled by hooks, and Weaver had expected the players to Mercy Kill him. They decided to go Off the Rails and save him instead, so he joined them and escaped the Metal Glen with them.
  • Twitch Plays Pokémon examples:
    • Crystal had Katie the Dratini join at Dragon's Den, just after getting the eighth badge, and still only being a Dragonair at the end of the Elite Four run.
    • Emerald had Annie join after attempts had already been made on the Elite Four, specifically to fill a need on the team, making her probably the purest example in the series as the E4 was the final goal in that run.
    • Lard Helix wasn't part of the original Elite Four team in HeartGold, joining during the journey through Kanto, and wound up reaching level 100.
    • X had Xerneas join the party after the 7th badge.
    • Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire both had Rayquaza join during the Delta Episode.
    • Anniversary Red had Axemon, Robopon, and Rihanna all join after the first Elite Four and contribute to the rematch.
    • Randomized Platinum had Spades join after defeating the Elite Four when it was noticed that only five of Pepe's Pokémon had even battled during the winning run and wound up dealing the final blow to the rematch Elite Four.
    • Sun was almost nothing but Eleventh Hour Rangers. Zydoge and SE both joined shortly after winning the fourth and final Grand Trial; Nebby just before the Elite Four, and Bieber in the postgame.
    • Waning Moon again had a late legendary addition that stuck around in the form of Alan.
    • Chandelure joined in Theta Emerald EX between attempts at solving the puzzles in the final gym.

    Western Animation 
  • In Avatar: The Last Airbender, Suki joins the Gaang two episodes before the four-part Grand Finale. Zuko joined a few episodes prior.
  • And then in The Legend of Korra Book 1 we have Zuko's grandson General Iroh, who assists Team Avatar in the season finale.
  • That Beast Wars was going to transition into Beast Machines was sort of an eleventh hour thing and the writers didn't have much notice to wrap up the show's storylines. One consequence of this is that a plot from Season 2 where the characters of Tigatron and Airazor were abducted by the Vok was hurriedly wrapped up in the last episode before the two-part finale, where they return to Earth having been merged by the Vok into one super powerful entity, Tigerhawk, who dies two episodes later in the finale.
  • Sinedd in season 3 of Galactik Football.
  • Ex-villain Jinx joins the party right in the middle of season 5 finale in Teen Titans.
  • In Young Justice Rocket joins the team the episode before the first season finale. And she's no longer part of the team when the second season starts...because she joined the Justice League during the Time Skip.
  • In Transformers Animated, Jazz (who was already a recurring character) officially joins up with the main cast at the end of the episode right before the finale. Had the show continued, he would have remained as a major character.