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Dethroning Moment: Live-Action TV

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The only Live-Action TV series that have their own pages at the moment are the following:

  • Peridonyx: Criminal Minds, Season 2's finale had the Big Bad kill Season 1's finale's hostage, making that finale a Shoot the Shaggy Dog. They Just Didn't Care 101.
  • Onaga Is Coming To Town: Hercules: The Legendary Journeys had season 3 episode 14, where, in one of the most cliche moments ever experienced in television, Hercules was depowered after being given a choice between love and power. Not only was this bad writing to the nth degree, but also incredibly jarring to fans who watch the show because the want to see Hercules, you know, with his powers. Ugh!
  • Crazyrabbits: A moment that completely derailed Battlestar Galactica was the third season episode "Unfinished Business", where the Galactica crew partake in an organized boxing tournament. The episode climaxes (no pun intended) with the revelation that Starbuck and Apollo slept together for one night on New Caprica, and Starbuck left him the next day to marry Samuel Anders (the Resistance fighter from Caprica). As the final boxing match between Starbuck and Apollo finishes, they both wind up in each others arms while their respective spouses look disgusted and walk away. It was much less a legitimate plot twist than a writer forcing the One True Pairing of Apollo and Starbuck on the audience, at the cost of a season's worth of character development between Kara and Anders/Lee and Dualla.
    • Tropers/Hyrin: "The Woman King": the episode where we learn that all of our main characters are prejudiced against 1/12th of the population because they refused to take up arms in a resistence movement that was doomed to failure without outside help (which there was no sign that said help was going to appear) because of their religious beliefs. Imagine a post-apocalyptic show where all the characters hate a Mennonite survivor because of his religion, and you can see how horrible this becomes.
  • Lord TNK: The finale to season nine of Dallas, which revealed the whole season was All Just a Dream.
  • Crazyrabbits: The episode entitled "Spaceball" from Galactica1980. In a series that had little to do with the original Battlestar Galactica to begin with, this episode featured genetically enhanced kids playing baseball to win money for an underprivileged children's camp. May be the worst, most pointless hour of fantasy/science-fiction ever written.
  • Trouser Wearing Barbarian: The last episode of Dinosaurs. They gave a light-hearted (if occasionally preachy) sitcom a Shoot the Shaggy Dog Downer Ending to deliver an Anvilicious Green Aesop. It brings a whole new meaning to "whole new low."
  • Crazyrabbits: 24: In a series that has seen all manner of ridiculous scenarios and over-the-top plot twists, the two episodes in Season 2 that feature Jack Bauer dying for ten minutes, a Middle Eastern secret agent being beaten to death by rednecks, said rednecks holding a woman hostage for a microchip they know absolutely nothing about and Kim Bauer attempting to escape a wild cougar before shacking up with a kooky survivalist is still, six seasons on, the absolute nadir of the series.
    • t3hdow: The moment in season 6 when "Bluetooth", season 5's Big Bad was revealed as Jack's brother in the fifth episode. The twist, while unexpected, made very little logical sense for obvious reasons, given Jack's reputation for dismantling terrorist threats at any cost, and because there was no mention of Jack's immediate family until this point. This damaged not only season 6, but the excellent trilogy-style foundation seasons 4 & 5 built up. Though this wasn't season 6's only misstep, it's the most infamous.
    • RAZ: Season 7 is probably one of the biggest examples of They Just Didn't Care. It was bad enough that nearly half of it was spent on a storyarc of Jack being infected with the Starkword weapon even though it never went anywhere and just got dragged on, but the finale was the real kicker that left me wanting to put my fist through the TV. The gigantic double Ass Pull that Alan Wilson was the true mastermind of season 5 and the real reason that Tony had sacrificed his soul, any chance of a future pardon, and nearly everyone he knew both good and bad to kill him was all to suddenly avenge the death of his previously unmentioned unborn child was essentially just the writers giving one huge middle finger to the entire audience.
  • Mr Death: An early episode of Mind of Mencia opened with Mencia, in bed for some reason, receiving a phone call from what was supposed to be then-President George W. Bush. Bush tells Mencia he loves the show, but asks him to be more politically correct. Mencia responds that he respects the president, but "Go fuck yourself," to a round of applause. Aside from being a pointless, unoriginal Take That (yeah, so edgy, taking on the same guy that every comedian in America makes fun of), but it's practically a Critical Research Failure: Bush, and republicans in general, almost never advocate political correctness; if anything, it's a liberal democrat ideal. It would be like The Man Show doing a bit where Bill Clinton calls in and tells them that the girls jumping on trampolines is inappropriate. If you're going to tell the president to "go fuck yourself," do it in response to something he actually does. Come on, Carlos, I'm a republican and even I can see there's plenty of legitimate targets! It was a stupid, pointless, and baseless insult, and it's the last scene I ever willingly watched of his series.
    • WRM 5: I'll admit, at first I didn't hate Mind of Mencia, it was more just "not that funny" to me and I would watch it sometimes if it was on since I was a big fan of Comedy Central at the time. This lasted until season 1 episode 11 with the "Ask Whitey" sketch. The purpose of the sketch was to mock white people by having blacks, asians, and latinos ask random white people on the street loaded questions and then only air the most outrageous answers. Unfair, but whatever it's all in the name of humor, right? Then we get to the end of the sketch. Carlos Mencia looks directly into the camera and says straight to every white person in America that we're basically the stupidest, evilest race on Earth and -this is a quote- "I can't believe I share a country with you people." What?! I get that it was meant as a joke, but come on! There's cutely skirting the boundaries of what's acceptable, and then there's blowing straight through that boundary at Mach 1! After this an attractive, scantily clad white woman shows up, he puts his arm around her, puts on his best Smug Snake face, and says "Oh yeah, that's why." What. So... that's his idea of making his mind-blowingly racist comment okay? I mean, taken together the whole thing basically says "if your ladies weren't so good looking I'd hope you all die in a fire." If that's the way you feel then you know what? Maybe we don't want to share a country with YOU either, Carlos, especially considering you weren't even a United States citizen at the time! Definitely the last time I ever watched that show, and it still blows my mind that it wasn't cancelled on the spot. (Mind of Mencia went on for three more full seasons after that.)
  • Belfagor: Orson leaving Bree in Desperate Housewives season 6 finale. I have always been a huge fan of the couple, yet I would have had no problem with them breaking up... if only it had been done in a decent way. First of all, it was a half-assed stunt to Put on a Bus the Ensemble Dark Horse that made season 3 probably the best season ever and managed to go through a gratuitous Character Derailment remaining at least sympathetic. Secondly, the marriage, despite all the problems it had faced, had resolved in a valid Character Development for both and a moving Crowning Moment of Heartwarming in episode 6x14; but in few episodes, the writers had managed to spoil everything. Thirdly, Bree's behavior was utterly weak and illogical, given what Sam had to blackmail her. Seriously, what the hell? For me, Desperate Housewives ended with episode 6x15, before that stupid Sam-subplot started.
    • Alex Hitchcock: What really irked me on Desperate Housewives was the last few episodes of the last season. It's like the writers just got tired of having a subplot with Lynette in every episode, and so they set about just destroying her character and Tom's character. We had to have so many episodes where the basic gist was "Tom is doing something, Lynette doesn't like it, Lynette does something against Tom's wishes, hilarity ensues, Tom lectures Lynette to be his own man and to respect his choices, and then the ending narration has shots of them tying back to the central theme of honesty or some bullshit". She had issues with him spending time on a new job, she hated being sidelined to extra activities at a business conference, she didn't like his ideas for decorating his office, and she didn't like that he picked their vacation without asking her. It got tiring and made me dislike her so much more. And now they are getting divorced! The one couple that through seven seasons of this show showed that they could stay together through unemployment, hostage situations, unknown love children, cancer, tornadoes, failed businesses, miscarriage, children getting arrested, kidnapping by murderers, and other problems would just suddenly be unable to reconcile and give up their marriage just annoys the hell out of me.
  • Valkir: The whole "I'm insulting your profession, but not you personally" bullshit in the Shindig episode of Firefly. It's not like insulting the profession of someone who has great respect for that profession can be taken as a personal affront. It's not like insulting that profession can offend someone personally and it clearly did. And yet you're somehow considered to be better than the Designated Villain of the episode and will be entirely forgiven because you're Mal Reynolds, everyone's Han Solo self-insert fantasy with less than half the charm. It's a Dethroning Moment because it establishes in this situation that Mal will get away with and be completely absolved of absolutely anything anti-heroic he does, simply because he's the hero. Despite being such a douche, we're supposed to believe that Inara will bail him out for something he got himself into, that his blatant cheating will be accepted by the spectators in a duel that is supposed to have (albeit warped) honor, and that he can just walk away with his "space slut" on his arm that he treated like ass. You can argue that he was absolved because he "fought for her honor," but once we establish that his insults and Atherton's insults are Not So Different, was it really anything more than territorial chest-thumping to establish superiority?
    • Ravenya003: Wordy word. How can Mal claim to respect Inara "the person" whilst simultaneously disrespecting her choices, her career, her freedom, and her privacy? How can Inara "the person" be separated from the things that make her that person?
    • Baeraad555: More word. Especially since it remains so unclear what Mal's beef with Inara's profession even is. He just keeps yelling "Whooooooore!!!" at her every chance he gets, but the man's a thief and a murderer - what the hell sort of position is he in to throw stones? Also, he seemed to get along just fine with a (non-Companion) prostitute in Heart of Gold, which suggests that either a) he's fine with prostitutes, as long they know their place and don't try to deny that they're "whooooooooores!!!", or b) he's fine with any prostitute who he can hire, but he takes Inara's refusal to "service" the Serenity crew even as she keeps taking on outside clients as an insult, and that makes him act out. The former would make him an entitled douchebag; the latter would make him a childish asshole. Neither particularly makes me want to watch a show about him.
    • Silverblade2: In "Ariel, "Malcom gives Jayne a second chance after he tried to sell Simon and River to the Alliance fully aware that they wouldn't do anything good to them just because Jayne happens to be a main character. The most Jayne gets is to be threatened. Later, Jayne never shows regret for what he has done and never get to redeem himself not even in the movie. In the few later episodes, he's just afraid that the rest of the crew would know. It's the point where Malcom becomes a reckless and stupid leader and Jayne goes from Loveable Rogue to Karma Houdini.
  • Aether Master: Rory stealing a fucking yacht on Gilmore Girls. Most of the characters seem to agree that she had a really flimsy reason for doing it in the first place. The show just took a sharp turn for the worse after that and never really fully recovered.
    • Emma Dilemma Agreed. And the episode after she stole the yacht she quit Yale - so not her. From that moment on, the show sucked. Rory and Lorelai became both so out of character, and then their fight ruined the whole reason for the show, the happy mother/daughter relationship.
  • Crazyrabbits: In The Wire's series finale, "-30-", Baltimore Sun city editor Gus Haynes has decided to investigate the claims about the facts in a story written by one of his reporters (Scott Templeton). The story (about a serial killer, which was part of the season's storyline) was exaggerated and faked to make it more interesting. Gus confronts the managing editor, who refuses to believe his claims (even though he has significant proof) and busts him back to the copy desk as punishment. David Simon's grievances are on full display; not only does this make the upper management at the Sun look like drooling morons for continuing to let a reporter write falsified and erroneous stories (which could open the newspaper up to lawsuits), it also doesn't address the nagging issue of the sources who were lied to by Templeton, and never explains whether or not they would sue the Sun for the libelous stories. At the end of the episode, the newspaper arc just... stops, and amounts to nothing more than "newspaper management sucks", which is a far cry from the nuanced and layered lessons laid out at the end of all the previous seasons.
    • Uriel1988: A later episode of Season 5 also features the resident Badass Omar Little doing what he alway does: scaring the shit out of Baltimore's drug world. So what makes it a DMOS? He does it while he's limping around with a broken leg. While previous seasons usually had Omar resort to hit-and-run tactics even when he had backup, Season 5 has him going on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge while he's on crutches like he's Baltimore's own Rambo. At one point he even walks up to a group of Marlo's drugdealers to threaten them and they just let him walk away when he's done, which made my jaw drop for all the wrong reasons.
  • pocksuppet1: Degrassi The Next Generation: Spinner and Emma getting (and staying) married. They've had barely any interaction during their years on the show. This could kind of possibly been forgiven if they hadn't decided to stay together after their first drunken wedding. However, because Emma is the writers' pet and they believe she can do no wrong, Spinner is magically able to get over Jane, who he was head over heels for, in about two seconds. Not to mention that all of Emma's Jerk Sue moments are conveniently ignored. What really gets to me is how everybody though that Jane was so horrible for cheating on Spinner, yet overlook the fact that a few seasons ago, he cheated on Darcy, the only person who would give him the time of day. Then there's Emma, who cheated on her boyfriends twice (of course, she never got called out for it). They seriously couldn't think of a better send-off for these characters? Like having Spinner leave for police college and Emma traveling abroad or something (and speaking of send-offs, don't even get me started on how they dumped Liberty with zero warning after Season 8 and then only gave her a two second cameo in the movie)?
    • MaxWest: For me, the dethroning moment for Degrassi was the treatment of Rick during Season 4, especially "Mercy Street". Yes, Rick's actions against Terri in the previous season were wrong. Maybe the Degrassi gang was right to shun him. They crossed the line when they started bullying Rick at every turn and even got physical with him. And the whole time, those kids were laughing about Rick getting the Asshole Victim treatment! To me, that's both Disproportionate Retribution AND Dude, Not Funny!.
  • Lady Norbert: I tried to give Stargate Universe a chance, I really did. But I just can't stand it, and a big part of the reason is the character of Chloe. The DMOS which killed the series for me was the episode in which part of their group was going to be sent off in a craft to try to colonize a nearby planet, while the others would remain on the ship and face imminent death, and a lottery was held to determine who would be in which group. As soon as they realized that Scott would go and Chloe would stay, the two of them went off to have sex. Scott left, and she turned to Eli for comfort. Then they discovered that the ship they were on was safe, so they called the other craft back and Chloe went straight back to Scott. It's pretty sad when the only memorable facet of a character's personality is the fact that she has two guys interested in her and makes it clear which one she prefers, but has no qualms about leaning on the other if her favorite isn't available.
    • Amy Jade: The DMOS for me was when people started having sex in other people's bodies and no one even batted an eye about it. They could have actually addressed so many morally ambiguous issues with the whole body swapping thing, but instead of having anyone realize, "Hey, this is kind of rapey and wrong," the closest they get is a brief sense of, "Hey, this is kind of awkward," like it wasn't meant to be morally ambiguous at all.
    • Kellor: The DMoS for me (and apparently a lot of other people) was the episode "Life". For all the criticism SGU got about being a soap opera, this was the episode where the soap opera drama was at its worst. The science fiction plot was the B plot, while crew drama was the A plot!
      • stewyworks333: Want to know how bad it got. (Yeah, it was a DMOS for me too.) The show was scoring a 1.8 to around 2 million viewers, especially with the rare epic episode, "Time" having just aired previously. Suddenly coming to an episode like this hurt the show bad. As in, the next episode dropped to 1.34 million viewers, and it just kept dropping. Needless to say, it didn't take long until the show was axed after two seasons.
  • Crazy Luigi: The episode of Delocated where they had a parody of Face/Off had a very sucky ending. So Jon has to accept his marriage of Sergei's picked fiancee, lest he blows his cover. Okay, fair enough. After the celebration, they have a montage via photography involving Jon/Sergei and his wife during their honeymoon and birth of a new child. Okay. Then about a year or two later, the agency guys let Jon/Sergei abandon his pregnant wife while he was playing with his new son, Jon/Sergei's wife notices that her child is crying, but she has no idea where he is, and that's the end of that episode. Just going "what?" doesn't display how I hated that ending. And I'm not someone who's had an abandoned father figure either. Oh, and having a parent abandon his or her child isn't a good attempt at making comedy either.
  • Demetrios: Allow me to weave a tale of an episode of King of Queens called "Roast Chicken". Basically Carrie convinces Doug to roast a guy (Les Fisker) at an IPS banquet. Doug starts off rocky, but throughout most of the roast he makes some goof jokes and gets the audience to like him. So far, so good. But at the end, Doug makes a joke about how long it takes Les to pee ("I wasted my vacation just waiting for this guy!"), which nobody finds funny. A fellow IPS worker tells Doug that Les had his prostate removed because of cancer. It's easy to understand that Doug didn't know about his cancer, but that Carrie knew, and even Arthur knew, is inexplicable.
    • TheDogSage: Apparently EVERYONE in the room but Doug knew, considering how a previously laughing crowd went completely silent after the "takes too long to pee" joke. How was it that Doug was the only one who didn't know about it. I know that "The King of Queens" is Cringe Comedy, but this is just kicking the Suspension of Disbelief in the testiculars and calling it a bitch.
  • Syriana: I felt "Let Bartlet Be Bartlet" was a real low-point in The West Wing. The show has always tended towards idealism, but it just got ridiculous here. The Bartlet administration goes for about a week without acting recklessly or passing any landmark, revolutionary legislation - in other words, behaving like a normal government - and it somehow suffers a big drop in approval ratings? The whole thing is a massive Wall Banger. The staff hold meetings on controversial issues such as DADT and financial commission reform, and this is treated like a bad thing, on the basis that President Bartlet should instead just blow off everyone else's opinion and storm ahead on his own. It was just so detached from reality. Leaving politics completely aside, nothing else happens in that episode. It is literally a long slog, simply to justify a would-be Crowning Moment of Awesome at the end. The episode ceased to be a realistic simulation of the White House and instead became a vehicle for Aaron Sorkin's beliefs on how politics should work.
    • Baeraad555: For me, it was the two-episode introduction of Ainsley freaking Hayes. Yes, the show always championed the belief that people with differing opinions could work them out in a peaceful and civilised manner, that being the foundation of representational democracy. And all right, they wanted a token "good" Republican to emphasise that. Fair enough. But did they have to overcompensate by making her brilliant and perfect and wonderful in every way and turning every cast member who was hostile to her into a blithering idiot so she could blow them away with her flawless rhetoric and air of noble suffering at this vile, Democratic persecution? Oh, and then there's the pure Narm of her "You don't like the people!" line, which is treated as the ultimate zinger. No, Ainsley Hayes, I don't like people whose morals are incompatible with mine. Nor do I expect them to like me. While being able to peacefully disagree even with people you dislike may be necessary for a civilised society, actively loving every single other person on the planet is not.
      • Temmere: For me it was her line just before that, when she says that Sam's position on gun restrictions "certainly has nothing to do with public safety," which he does not even attempt to refute for some reason. Considering that he and his friends and coworkers had been victims of gun violence just a few months before, I'd say his position had quite a lot to do with public safety.
  • Gravityman: The show My Wife and Kids had an episode where Michael Sr. gauges what present he should buy his wife for a holiday she and the other women in the family made up. When he calls her up and she starts screaming at him, he decides that a 3/10 is a reasonable rating. So he buys her a pearl necklace. However, the reason the women created this holiday is because all of them wanted diamonds. When everyone but Jay gets diamonds, she isn't happy (after Tony practically forced Jay to listen about the "Women Rating System"). So her completely logical reaction is to treat Michael as if he were neglectful and horrible, while treating everybody else much better than normal. Oh and according to Jay's measurement, getting a pearl necklace (3/10) compared to diamonds (10/10) is worse than getting strips of raw bacon (4/10) compared to blueberry waffles (10/10). She seems to think that pearls are incredibly cheap. The sad part is, had Jay not completely overreacted, she would have had a valid point.
    • Ziggerboo: This is seriously the most enraging episode of any TV show I've ever seen in my life. While neither Kyle or Jay were right in this situation (a woman rating system? seriously?), Jay was acting like a complete bitch about it and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. Were we supposed to sympathize with her here? I'm assuming we are, since the episode tries to paint Kyle as the bad guy in this situation (once again, neither were right). Of course, the whole thing could've been avoided had Jay not came up with a fake holiday just to get some diamonds.
    • AntMan: Don't forget the episode where Junior had a bully picking on him. Which Family-Unfriendly Aesop would you prefer? The fact that it's wrong to stand up for your brother because it hurts his pride, or the fact that if you do stand up for him then you're automatically doomed to spend the rest of her life in alley fights and cage matches?
    • CJ Croen 1393: The episode where Michael and Jounior try to fix up the garage; Jounior is by no means intelligent, but I expected him to at least know what a hammer is. So, when Michael asks him to show him his hammer, what does Jounior do? He dances to M.C. Hammer. Ok I know Flanderization with Junior was in full-force by this point, but him not knowing what a hammer is truly stretching beyond credibility.
  • Stele Resolve: That '70s Show... Jesus, it's hard to pick the exact moment where the show lost all appeal. There's a lot of minor things, like Lisa Robin Kelly being replaced by the less funny and less talented Christina Moore, Fez and Laurie getting married, the gradual character derailment of nearly every person in the show... But probably the moment that ended it all, the exact point in time where the series started its long road into the night, was when Kelso decided to become a police officer. The biggest idiot, most irresponsible, and most anti-authority after Hyde, and he decides to join the police academy. Words fail me as I try to express how stupid this simple decision was for the show, and it was around that time that the jokes started getting less and less funny and the characters less like themselves.
    • Demetrios: You couldn't have said it better. The purpose of the police officer is to maintain law and order in our towns and cities. And now its newest member is a sex-crazed idiot who can barely run his own life.
    • Alex Hitchcock: An episode that really pissed me off was one where Red took the Vista Cruiser from Eric. Eric lost it because Kelso gave him a purple nurple, causing him to swerve and scratch the paint on a fire hydrant. Kelso and the others bailed when Red showed up. Later, they are in a car Kelso borrowed and get arrested because the car was reported stolen. Kelso also wastes their one phone call because Jackie mistakes the call for roleplaying. They get freed, and what happens then? Kelso and Jackie get laid. It frustrated me because Kelso was a complete jackass the entire episode, and he get no retribution (the car was accidentally reported stolen, Kelso had it legitimately). I could forgive Kelso being a cop because he was at least a bad cop and ended up as a bouncer in the finale, but the fact that he endangered everyone and got Eric in trouble with Red over the scratch (Red doesn't buy that Eric was arrested) makes me pissed that they reward his dickish behavior with sex. Fuck Kelso.
    • Tropers/Yecasux: The episode where Kitty forces the whole family to go to church. She gives them the choice to go or not and then later tells them "When you decided to go it's your decision." She makes it seem like going to church will instantly let them into heaven, and if they don't go they'll all automatically go to hell. Never mind the fact that going to church doesn't seem to change their "sinful" behavior anyway. When the only reason you can think of to make your kids do something is "because I'm your mom and I said so" you have failed as a parent.
  • Gyrobot: In Kamen Rider Decade Movie Wars, the duel of Kivala and Decade comes to mind for me. Decade was just finished defeating every single rider and Kivala of all people kills him as he half heartedly fights Kivala instead of his fury mode threatening to kill the only person he really cared for. It would have been more convincing for Diend to defeat him than Kivala.
    • Ajustice: One for the show is a part from Kabuto's world, Natsuki and Hiyori were being chased by Worms and when we got cornered Natsuki stepped away from Hiyori as the Worms closed in; she wasn't pushed or tossed away, she just stepped aside to leave Hiyori at the mercy of the monsters. Hiyori makes it out of it but still Natsuki looked like a total jerk for just moving away like she did.
  • Sahgo: I'm willing to put the last few minutes of the last episode of Kamen Rider Kiva in Fanon Discontinuity because of the amount of stupid in them. I can accept that the final battle was against a suddenly resurrected 1986 King (instead of someone who would make sense). I can accept that Wataru was saved by a 22 years old piece of armor. But I can't accept they doing the "child from the future" thing again, completely out of left field, and announcing that the Fangires are still enemies (that completely and utterly destroys the optimism of Taiga trying to find a new source of energy to replace humans' life essence as Fangires' food and, therefore, reaching peace between the races). And the "Neo Fangires" being UFO-like only put the final nail in the coffin. And BTW, Toei, don't bother making a poorly-planned Sequel Hook if the chances of there being a sequel are slim-to-none!
  • Capretty: The episode "Scott's Tots" of The Office. So apparently years ago Michael promised an entire class that if they graduated he would pay for their college tuition. What? So we are expected to believe that numerous people believed and accepted that a paper Salesman in Scranton could afford to send several kids to college let alone a whole class? And what if it was a private school? What if it was out of state. Hell, what if it was Ivy League? And worse is that the episode reveals that he has spent years getting to know these kids so you think that their parents or a teacher or someone would notice he does not have the income to support this. Pam is the only person who seems to grasp how unbelievably bad the situation is and forces Erin to take Michael to the school so he can come clean. But Michael "misses Pam" apparently so for no reason he treats poor sweet Erin like garbage the whole episode. So Michael goes to the school and tells these kids who have been relying on him that he can't pay for their tuition and then tries to smooth the situation by giving them batteries. Oh but he does pay for textbooks-for one of the kids. Then to top it off we get this awful attempt at a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming where Erin says that their class has the highest amount graduating from the school-all thanks to him! Yeah, and now most of them can't go to college-all thanks to him! Meanwhile the B story has Dwight trying to get Jim fired and Jim suddenly loses his brain and falls directly into the trap and the rest of the office become unbelievable dicks and won't let him get a word in.
    • terlwyth: The interviews special for the new manager, that's nothing. First, it's riddled with Celebrity Guest Stars who seem out of place all vying for the new position which slowed down the usual pace, the jokes weren't funny at all especially not Warren Buffett. But then the main story of the interviews was hampered by not only too many people, but the Gabe plot tumor trying to get Erin back and make everyone miserable to do so, which leads to massive Character Derailment to manipulating Kelly which backfires and gets him Put on a Bus. Then you have the "Angela's Boyfriend is gay" subplot which also took away, wasn't funny and frankly just made a huge Kick the Dog even too much for Angela. And none of it was well executed, with awkward transitions littered here and there, and why did Jim Carrey get the last line? Everything imaginable went wrong "Search Committee" and not even Creed's Large Ham could've saved it. It sucks that Deangelo got axed so quickly for this.
  • Tommy X: The finale of Seinfeld. While visiting another town, the gang watches a guy get mugged and do nothing, so a nearby cop, instead of arresting the mugger, arrests them for not abiding by some Good Samaritan Law. The prosecution decides that this is some huge landmark case that is more important than a serial killer, and starts to bring in people that the gang pissed off as witnesses. The prosecutor claimed it was establishing a pattern of behavior that the gang showed when not helping the mugging victim. That may have been acceptable for a couple of people, but then they pull in people who had stupid reasons for hating them, people who have their own assumptions of the gang's actions, and even a guy who, according to Jerry, left America for parts unknown! Then when the gang gets found guilty, everyone cheers and the judge delivers a "Reason You Suck" Speech to the gang. The fact that the prosecution was allowed to pull in every character who had ever been on the show is incredibly stupid. The gang did not get a fair trial at all.
    • SickBoy: In most court cases it's near impossible to even get a single prior bad act admitted as evidence, let alone a whole string of them (most of which, in the case of this episode, weren't even illegal). Prior bad acts are considered irrelevant and prejudicial, and are usually rejected unless the prosecution can give a really convincing reason to include them. It was really just a flimsy excuse to have a clip show as the finale, a bad idea in its own right.
    • Troper/maxwellsilver: And then there's the gross misrepresentation and exaggeration of laws. The law they're arrested on is stated to be the Good Samaritan Law... except in Massachusetts' law is the liability law to protect someone from lawsuit who further injures or kills an obviously injured or ill person while delivering aide, and even the mandatory laws only require someone help an obviously injured or ill person. The show treats Good Samaritan Laws as if they were Duty to Rescue laws, even though few states use them and in Massachusetts it can't be used against ordinary citizens (if, for example, a doctor negligently fails to treat a condition, that inaction can be negligence; in the case of an ordinary citizen coming across an accident, they have no duty to do anything, but if they say they'll call for help and don't then they can be held liable), with the exception of rape, aggravated rape, murder, or armed robbery, where their responsibility is simply reporting it to the police, not attempting to stop a violent crime. If a police officer is at the scene the entire time, the group have no responsibility whatsoever, and have even captured photographic evidence of the crime and the perpetrator.
  • Darth Josh: To say X-Play has suffered in recent years would be an understatement. One moment that annoyed me was when they did Your Childhood Sucks: Final Fantasy VII. Not because they panned it, but they picked the most asinine reasons to do so. The rant consisted of nothing but nitpicks about the graphics (despite being made in 1997), the music, the random battles (which is like complaining about reloading in a FPS), and how much they hated the people who liked it. In a nutshell, they pretty much said "This game sucks for being a JRPG made in the 90s."
    • ira: A DMOS for me regarding the above is that not another single "Your Childhood Sucks" really made another appearance after I believe one more entry. So it was kind of an excuse to bash maybe two games.
    • Purple Shirt: I'm sure that X-Play has had a lot of bad moments, namely when they let their Bias Steamroller spread through but I'll focus on one review that just reeks of Cowboy Bebop at His Computer... the review for Tales of the Abyss. I am not saying this because I like the game, but because I've actually played it, so I know what stuff Morgan is right about, what's being taken out of context, and what's just flat out wrong. For starters, she (or whoever wrote the review, Adam and Morgan have admitted to not playing every game they review, further reducing any integrity the two had to virtually nothing) is completely oblivious to how the Tales Series works, and complains about the game being a Cliché Storm. She gives a lot of evidence that she has only played the first third of the game tops, and even during that time, didn't really pay attention. Not to know that the Tales Series will have a Wham Episode and will start deconstructing or playing with all the tropes they establish within the first third of the game is pretty much a Critical Research Failure. I get the idea that this is an RPG and that RPGs are rather long games, but honestly, when I myself reviewed games, and was reviewing a game I hadn't fully beaten yet, at least admitted it was a "First impressions". (Even Yahtzee admits reviewing games he's not finished.) Strike one. As for what she says about the plot... Morgan basically jumps to conclusions about the plot and writes them off as a check list of RPG Cliches. (See again, Tales's Deconstructor Fleet). She mentions that Dist is the "Effeminate RPG villain bent on world domination". What? Dist?! As anyone who has played beyond the point Morgan (or the writer) got could tell you... this is a flat out lie. Effeminate? Okay, Strawman Has a Point there - you can argue that about Dist. But Dist is the primary antagonist bent on world domination? Critical Research Failure - The Big Bad is actually someone completely different (Van) and World Domination is not even one of his goals. In fact, Mohs is being built up as the Big Bad at that point of the game. To be fair, maybe Morgan (or the writer) deduced that the game would do something like that. And in that case, they're actually right since Mohs is only the Big Bad Wannabe, but even he doesn't want to take over the world. Even more research failures and Blatant Lies, strike two. And finally? The X-play tendency of taking a quote out of context and repeating it ad nauseum because it sounds funny. Yeah, guys? It's not funny. Even if you take Dist's quote out of context... it's still not funny. There were several better lines they could have taken out of context that would have been a little more funny, but overall, that wasn't. Strike three - we have a train-wreck.
  • katecarey: The 30 Rock episode "TGS Hates Women." In theory, it was supposed to subvert and play with the growing public perception that maybe Tina Fey isn't so much a feminist powerhouse but just another writer who's made her bones picking on women she considers "below" her. In practice, it just came off as a snitty attack on "hot" female comics - the main three influences seeming to be Sarah Silverman's adult-child persona, Olivia Munn's "sexy geek" act, and Abby Elliott's late night presence, Khloe Kardashian voice, and name (the character in question was named "Abby Flynn"). The episode ended with a completely improbable Twist Ending in which the character had actually adopted the "slutty comedian" act in order to hide from an ex-husband, but it didn't really make a difference - the episode just felt nasty.
  • Lady Corvex: The Sentence, the second season finale of The Outer Limits relaunch. We have David Hyde Pierce playing a vain psychiatrist trying to win the Nobel Prize (in medicine, presumably) by curing violent sociopaths through virtual reality prison sentences. This procedure had had a 100% success rate up until he put on a demonstration for a visiting US Senator. In that case, the man kept protesting his innocence until he was put in the machine, at which point the virtual reality simulation broke down into an orgy of violence. Why? "Because the (duly convicted) man was innocent." How do they know he was innocent? Because the simulation didn't work for him. And everyone just accepts this assesment! Now, most of the episode actually takes place (in a transparently obvious twist) inside the psychiatrist's own VR simulation, but the innocence of the man in question remains a plot point even after we return to the real world. Also: David Hyde Pierce is on trial for the death of the convict, we learn just how horrible the procedure really is, when people who have gone through it testify that "they wish they were dead." Problem is: this entire trial takes place inside a VR simulation. There is no real-world evidence that the procedure is anywhere near that bad. Anyways, the simulation progresses, David Hyde Pierce gets sent to a hellish prison for twenty years (the prison being based upon his own knowledge of what the actual prison system is like), gets "reformed" and wakes up to find that, in reality, only about thirty minutes have gone by. He then tries to destroy the machine, on the grounds that it is a cruel and inhumane punishment for innocent people, and his guilt at having built it is reinforced by the fact that his experience in the machine was not the same as that of the other "innocent" man. Problems with this: 1) There is still no evidence that the duly-convicted-by-a-jury-of-his-peers test subject was innocent. 2) Even if the occasional innocent guy did get through, is it really worse to implant a few false memories over the course of one afternoon than it is to literally steal years of his life in a hellish prison? 3) All of the evidence that the procedure is inhumane comes from the doctor's own nightmare fantasy, and finally, 4) we get to see first hand just how terrible the current penal system is!
  • Gess: The 9th season of Scrubs has an episode where JD's craving with Dr. Cox's attention turned from merely pathetic and needy to downright masochistic! On one occasion, while withstanding another rant from his idol, JD is begging for more in his head. Ugh. And then he gives his students a photo presentation of himself in suggestive poses... Let's say it plain and blunt: they turned JD into a whore and it's disgusting.
    • Knight9910: My worst moment of Scrubs was the episode when Turk gets a side-job as a paramedic for the hospital. He talks his supposed best friend J.D. into doing the job with him, but only as an excuse to steal money from him (he gives J.D. less than the full amount he was supposed to, pocketing the rest). When J.D. discovers this he gets revenge by making up a lie about Turk smoking pot, thereby getting him fired. Granted, that was a huge dick move and I absolutely agree with J.D. being made to suffer for it, but the problem is that absolutely no mention is given to the fact that Turk committed fraud and larceny against someone who was supposed to be his best friend. In fact, the episode makes it very clear that we're supposed to side with Turk on the grounds that Turk has a pregnant wife and therefore "needs" the money more than his single friend. (You heard it here first, folks! You can do whatever you want as long as you have a half-ass, selfish excuse! Want more space for your tomato garden? Burn down your neighbor's house! After all, you "need" the space far more than they do! You're YOU!) It's not the worst thing that's ever happened on the show but for me it was the first really big example of just how sick and twisted the show's sense of morality really is. Basically Scrubs defines good and evil solely based on whether or not it makes J.D. unhappy. I'm personally convinced the show would happily argue that rape and terrorism are okay too, just so long as doing so would upset J.D.
  • Joie De Combat: The NCIS season five episode "Dog Tags" is a Dethroning Moment for Abby. McGee is attacked by a Navy drug-sniffing dog and bitten several times before he manages to fend it off by shooting it non-fatally. Upon hearing what happened, Abby immediately berates McGee for hurting the dog - which is also suspected of attacking and killing its handler - and spends the rest of the episode acting like a spoiled brat: refusing to acknowledge that the dog could possibly be dangerous, treating it as a pet, and refusing to hand it back over to the unit responsible for the dogs. At the end of the episode, she forces McGee to adopt the dog that attacked him. Compare with her actions in the episode "Corporal Punishment", where she shows no compassion whatsoever for a Marine who attacked several people, even though he was in a mental institution due to a combination of PTSD and Playing with Syringes.
    • Watcher CCG: In agreement with the above, Abby has a very annoying tendency to get her way roughly 99% of the time on the show. Gibbs is the only person on the team who ever defies her will, and only very rarely. Looking back at "Dog Tags" leaves a Black Hole Sue flavor in my mouth, and I don't like it. Abby's normally a good character, but I do not envy NCIS's grunt-level agents, who probably have to deal with all her extremely neurotic behavior and her Once a Season boasting of being able to commit a perfect murder whenever they sufficiently annoy her.
    • fluffything: NCIS: Good lord was the season premier a let down in so many ways. First, none of the main characters die. None. Not even Ducky (whom I had thought had died of a heart attack). Every single main character is OK. Just, no. No. You don't build up suspense that a main character could've died only to show they're all fine. Even Tim who was impaled by shrapnel was fine (It. Doesn't. Work. That. Way.). Worse is the whole final battle between Gibbs and Pseudo-Hannibal Lecter AKA "Harper Dearing". Did I say fight? I mean Gibbs just kills an unrealistically calm Dearing by stabbing him in the back. That's it. No struggle. No battle of wits or the concept of vengeance VS justice. There's a half-assed Not So Different speech that Dearing gives, but it's too little too late. NCIS, if you're going to go this route then you need to do two things: kill a main character and give a satisfactory battle with the villain. You failed to do both.
      • Dynamite XI: Ditto the same episode, though for different reasons. First, the audience's disbelief is strained when all the federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies—much less Team Gibbs—can't capture Harper Dearing, a frail old man who is on the Most Wanted List. Then, nearly every one of the characters seemed to be juggling the Idiot Ball during the NCIS evacuation: DiNozzo and Ziva try to escape NCIS by taking the elevator on the same end of the building as the bomb.note  McGee and Vance are still in the bullpen, not far from the same side of the building as the bomb. Abby stays in her lab, which is right next to the bomb, making Gibbs run down there to help her. And not surprisingly, EVERYONE is in the line of fire when the bomb explodes. Furthermore, the very end of the episode, right after Ducky gets the phone call, he keels over with a heart attack, which (like the above troper said) was just the writers being cruel to a character for the sake of being cruel to a character. Overall, the whole episode seems like it was supposed to be a dramatic cliffhanger with a nigh-unstoppable villain, but the characters were acting SO STUPID that it'll take a pretty big saving throw in order to fix it in next season's premiere.
      • Star Tropes: Then there's the scene where the FBI tries to take out Dearing. It starts when they successfully locate him. What do they do? Arrest him? Snipe him? No, they send in Ms. Fanservice to seduce him into a hotel room and have him wait inside so that a team of gunners can shoot the crap out of said room. When they go back inside to see if he's dead, they find no sign of Dearing—meaning that he escaped through a back window they didn't cover—but they do find a time bomb about to detonate. What do they do then? Run the hell out of there? No, they just gape at it until it explodes. Seriously, were they even trying?
  • lazyfox: In House, I can't remember the name of the episode, but it was one of those "day in the life of" featuring Cuddy. Basically, the entire episode was about what a day for Cuddy is like. Cuddy is confronted with a patient who's suing the hospital for reattaching his thumb when he specifically requested not to. The reason was because his insurance wouldn't cover a reattachment, but would cover stitching the wound closed. The doctor decided to act on his own and reattach the thumb anyway. Now, I know it's Cuddy's job to defend the hospital and its staff, especially when it comes to potentially serious financial matters. But that still doesn't make me any less pissed off with her attitude towards the patient. Cuddy, your doctor broke the damn law. It's illegal to perform a procedure or treatment on any mentally sound person without their consent. He specifically stated that he didn't want his thumb sewn on. It was done anyway. And then he was charged full price for a procedure he didn't ask for. It's especially bad considering one of the other sidestories about how the evil insurance company is trying to cheat them out of money they deserve. She's doing the same thing to the patient! The worst part is a line that seriously made me want to smack her across the face, which was essentially: "Our services aren't free, and we'll get our money even if it means taking your house (yes, she specifically mentioned taking his house as a means of payment)." Jesus Cuddy, why don't you just bust his kneecaps and demand protection money while you're at it? He specifically stated he didn't want that procedure done. This is one of the myriad reasons why it's a good thing to have a national health service like the one in my country.
    • Troper/Hyrin: Yes, House was supposed to be a Know It All Jerkass, but driving his car into a dining room that, less than a minute before, he was fully aware held several people -including a child- because he didn't like that his ex had moved on from dating a manipulative, narcissistic, drug addicted sociopath was the moment that I walked away from the series and never looked back.
  • Ian: Charlie Sheen guest starring on Drew Carey's Improv-A-Ganza. Evidently, Carey failed to tell him that the idea behind Story is to continue the story on your turn, not just shout "Charlie Sheen fucking a dead hooker" over and over again. I don't expect the guest stars to be experts at improv, but they tend to be able to outperform a cardboard standee with a tape recorder.
  • Freezer: Law & Order — "Under The Influence (s8e11)" may be Jack McCoy's Never Live It Down moment, but his true DMoS comes earlier in "Savages (s6e3)". In order to make sure an accountant who murdered an undercover cop was eligible for the Death Penalty. McCoy cuts a ludicrous deal with the only person who could verify he knew the guy was a cop: The drug-dealing Smug Snake of an antique dealer the accountant was working for to begin with. The same dealer the dead officer was investigating. The deal? Dropping all charges against the dealer AND blanket immunity on the stand (meaning anything he confessed to during testimony instantly became off limits). Bear in mind, they had the accountant locked down for murder (2nd Degree Murder carrying a 20-year minimum sentence). McCoy let a clearly worse criminal walk just to be able to apply the ultimate sanction to the killer.
  • jessicaotiesha: The episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent where the husband was basically convicted because he wasn't liked. The guy’s drug addicted cheating wife disappears and her enabling family suspect him because he cheated on her even though their marriage is basically over and he is in a relationship with the woman it's not just a fling like what his wife does. The audience is supposed to suspect him because he went flying after he found out he was being followed but we saw him and he had no body with him. For all intents and purposes it looks like his wife just ran off which she has done numerous times but all of this is ignored and they even say that despite the lack of evidence he was convicted because the jury didn’t like him. This same basic plot was used in the original. I just see it as needlessly cruel plus the fact that Unfortunate Implications due to a fact that a man can be abused for years but if he doesn't handle it with dignity he’s a horrible person and deserves to go to jail.
  • Madain: I was watching The Mentalist pretty regularly but then I stopped altogether because of one scene. It was the end of the first season episode with the con-artist that claimed she could talk with the dead. In the end, she said she had talked with Patrick Jane's murdered daughter. The dead girl had said that she didn't suffer when she was killed. Jane doesn't get furious and tell her not to pretend to know anything of his daughter, instead Jane gets teary-eyed and thanks the charlatan.
  • Tropers/Tensaihime: After a prison break in CSI: Miami, the gang has been hard at work putting away the scum who escaped. The focus turns to the drug dealer who killed Horatio's darling wife/Eric's beloved sister in cold blood, and it takes a while to catch him. As the chase progresses we learn about the woman who left him and his hatred for everyone who had anything to do with his daughter now being in the foster system. Are we suddenly supposed to pity this prick? All he's done is cause misery, and the woman and kid are leagues better off without him! Finally H tracks him down and is prepared to end his life... and this hypocrite has got the nerve to ask H if he is "a righteous man." Okay, so H stands for Horatio and not Harry and I probably had no right to expect him to put an end to the guy's BS with a simple single gunshot, but then the two of them sit down and jaw about righteousness. And as the episode ends, they start talking about the weather instead! Y'know, the thing everyone discusses when the conversation's flagging but no one cares about, especially not at a time like this! So mundane, so not related to anything else of importance that took place. It felt very anti-climactic. I used to love putting on my sunglasses and making lame H-style puns, but after I saw this episode I was DONE with the show.
  • Tyler FG: The George Lopez Show: Ok, so George finds out his daughter is dating someone he doesn't like. So after arguing with her a bit, she says she is almost a woman and she can do whatever she wants. What does he tell her? He basically tells her to get out and he won't come looking for her. Ok, so she runs away and he starts to feel like crap. What does his wife tell him? It wasn't his fault and he was trying to protect her. If I was her, I would've fucking kicked him out. Let me remind you everyone was acting like it was no big deal, and nobody called him out on it at all. How he's even likeable as a character anymore is beyond me.
    • CJ Croen 1393: I found that arc bad for the opposite reason. Carmen and Max's behavior was what infuriated me. Carmen, when your dad has a My God, What Have I Done? Papa Wolf reaction to you running away, the correct response is to realize how wrong you were and accept his offer to come home with open arms, not reject and disown him in front of a celebrity who could tell the world about it no less. And then she insists that George and Angie are "treating her like a baby and controlling everything she does". Yeah, because wanting to know if you're safe, alive and haven't been taken advantage of soooo makes them control freaks. Meanwhile, Max is more preoccupied with Carmen getting punished and never once shows any actual concern for his only older sister being alone somewhere with a boy who has taken advantage of innocent girls, and could do it again with her! And when she doesn't get punished, he not-so-subtly threatens to run off himself. Dear God, these kids.
  • cypsiman2: In episode 17 of Choujin Sentai Jetman, the group is out shopping, the girls going through swim suits, when Ako suggests to Kaori that one suit in particular would be appealing to Ryu. Gai, Sarcasm Mode being the model of emotional maturity that he isn't, decides right then and there to grab Kaori by the arm and drag her away from the others, ignoring everyone yelling at him, and takes her into an elevator to isolate her from everyone. When he starts talking about all men being wolves, she thinks it's a joke, but she quickly realizes it isn't, and visibly becomes scared. Then a power outage strikes, and Gai, being the emotionally immature belligerent dick that he is, decides that then is the time to invade Kaori's personal space and to demand to know if she loves or hates him. And yet, this is supposed to be the Ensemble Dark Horse of Jetman? This is supposed to be one of the most popular characters in the whole of the Super Sentai franchise? Fuck him, I don't care how many "Badass" stunts he pulls in battle, none of them were worth that one scene, not that it was an isolated incident mind you.
  • happymediocrity: As much as I love The Twilight Zone, they earned themselves a dethroning moment during season five's episode "Night Call," in which a lonely old woman receives mysterious and disturbing phone calls. The calls escalate from creepy silence to unsettling moans and finally speaking, and she tells him to stop bothering her. She attempts to find out where the calls are coming from and finds out they are from her dead fiance, who died when she bossed him into letting her drive and she crashed. He calls again, only to let her know that he won't be bothering her anymore, and she's heartbroken. This episode seems to be about torturing a lonely old woman and saying women shouldn't drive or attempt to be in control of anything, ever, and its Kick the Dog attitude does not help.
    • Manwiththeplan: The episode "Mute" is just awful. It's about a preteen girl, Ilse, with telepathic powers, which she got because her parents raised her as an experiment, never teaching her to talk and never loving her. Well, her parents die in a fire and she's adopted, and has to be reached out to by her new stepparents and school teacher. Now, what should happen here is that her stepparents and teacher should try to show her real love and acceptance, help her open up socially with her telepathic abilities, and teach her how to harness them for good purposes. But that's not what happens. Instead, the stepmother is hysterically intent on using Ilse as a Replacement Goldfish for her own dead daughter, the stepfather never seems to give a damn, and worst of all, the school teacher decides that Ilse's telepathy must be gotten rid of and Ilse must "be like everyone else", so she instructs all the other schoolchildren to Mind Rape Ilse by always thinking her name until these thoughts become deafening to her. Eventually, it works. Ilse's telepathy is ruined and she breaks down crying and screaming "My name is Ilse!" over and over. And at the end, the ending tries to be happy saying that Ilse lost her telepathy, but at least she now has people who love her, which is more important. Excuse me, but just how does one confuse incessant mental torture and love!?
  • Garfield2710: Gilligan's Island had its ups and downs but one of the worst episodes has to be "Take a Dare". The plot is that a man is a contestant on a radio game show where he has to live on a deserted island for a week for a $10,000 grand prize. But in order to get the prize money, he has to do it without any help whatsoever, and after he is put on Gilligan's Island, he steals the castaways food and whatnot and all the while pretending that he is having a hard time on the island. Now he has a radio that he constantly uses to talk to the game show people, and he has a button that can be pressed if he ever wants to quit. Well the castaways find out about this and they try to get him to change his mind and get them off the island. The idea of the Howells giving him a reward is idiotically tossed aside by having the guy not believing they are extremely rich, which in it of itself is stupid since it is implied the Howell's are extremely well known and their disappearance would've been highly publicized, so it makes no sense that he would think they are lying. So the castaways try to steal the radio, which the guy goes so far as to throw the radio over a cliff into the ocean to prevent them from being rescued. They also try to find a way to get to the ship as it picks him up, and... the guy gets off the island. The fact that he ends up not winning the prize money (it was in the radio he threw over the cliff) still doesn't soften the Yank the Dog's Chain ending. The writer of this episode obviously didn't understand that it was funny when Gilligan or somebody else screwed up their chances of getting off the island. It's NOT funny when a guy is just being a jerk, just for a few thousand dollars, and they try hard to get off the island and they fail.
  • Wolfram And Hart: The fifth season episode of Angel, "The Girl in Question". Where do I start? First, it interrupts the ongoing story arc. The whole story of Angel pretending to be corrupted by Wolfram & Hart loses any steam when they go from Angel giving a baby to a demon cult and him having a wacky comedy with an hour long pissing contest with Spike about Buffy. They ruined the mood the ending of Time Bomb started. Then we get to watch as our hero and a cool secondary character are turned into self admitted "hen pecked teenagers chasing after a girl". Angel and Spike have such a grasp on the Idiot Ball that they get outsmarted and blown up by some nameless demon that any other time would have been decapitated long ago and Andrew leaves the episode with more dignity than them. And when they aren't acting like dorks about Buffy, they're bitching about the Immortal's perfection emasculating them. And it's not bad enough that this happens to our heroes in their current state. Oh no! They also have to give us a flashback to when they were evil and make them look like the vampire equivalents of Duckie. They turn Angelus and William the Bloody from a cold blooded killer and the most feared vampire ever into whiny little dorks who are jealous of the jock. Not to mention it undermines the poignancy of Darla's last appearance by having her last scene in the Buffyverse be a giggling fangirl who had a three way with Drusilla and the Immortal. And then there's Buffy's romance with the Immortal. Seriously, "The Immortal"? Tell me that doesn't sound like something they made up in five minutes. It's not bad enough they stuck Buffy with some God-Mode Sue noncharacter, but the way the episode plays out turns her into more of a damn plot device than the severed demon head Angel and Spike had to get. It's such a stupid way to close the Buffy/Angel/Spike triangle. This idea with Buffy and the Immortal was so bad they retconned it in the Season 8 comics. Oh, and let's not forget the jarring B Plot where Illyria pretends to be Fred when her parents visit. This wasn't as obnoxious as the A Plot until you realize that it implies the Fang Gang are so thoughtless that they didn't even call Fred's parents to inform them their daughter died! And finally, the most damning sin a comedy episode can commit: it's not funny!
  • Spider Fan 14: "Advanced Dungeons and Dragons" from Community. I haven't completely seen Season 2, but so far this is Pierce's worst moment. Imagine if My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic episode "Party of One" was done by Pinkie Pie being a dillhole to someother pony instead of the main plot. In it, Pierce doesn't get invited to a Dungeons and Dragons game by Jeff to cheer up a possibly suicidal classmate named "Fat Neil" who the narrator keeps calling him. Pierce's D&D character steals Neil's sword he worked hard for and wipes his privates on it and humps it and loads over that Neil has no friends and is fat. This, as someone who got bullied, a very painful experience and wanted to knock that fucking asshole's teeth out.
    • Kickasstakenames: I second that, Pierce is supposed to be a dick but he is just so cartoonishly, pointlessly evil in this episode it just throws everything out of order. The series had been building towards a real low moment for Pierce but seemed to jump ahead another six episodes worth of developement in this episode. It makes his behaviour in Celebrity Pharmacology seem reasonable and to an extent it was. He was obviously just desperate for attention and the addiction was messing with his head, hence the teaching kids bad lessons and paying off Annie. Please correct me if I'm wrong since I haven't seen it in a while but he seemed to redeem himself in the end of Celebrity Pharmacology making this derailment far worse.
    • RAZ: Virtual Systems Analysis left me really angry. Abed doesn't want to go a restaurant because the managers hates Die Hard. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that said manager is portrayed as a horrible, rotten Designated Villain within the episode all because of this one trait. As someone who doesn't like the film himself, I found it really insulting, since it all but says "Your opinion doesn't matter, if you do not like something that is popular, then you're automatically an evil person and should not be liked at all." What the hell, Community?!
  • cg12345: The Boston Legal episode where Denny shoots a homeless guy with a paintball gun. Yeah, he was called on it repeatedly, but the willful jump from "loveable nut" to "smug, unrepentant asswipe" was jarring.
  • On Soaring Wings: Now normally I like Tosh.0, I understand the humor etc... But in the 4th Season episode... Where Daniel takes the $24000+ that he made auctioning off all the memorabilia from his show, and rather than donate it to Charity or something like that, he proceeds to blow it all on one hand of Blackjack in Vegas. And then he has the nerve to make a joke about it. Now I understand it's a comedy show, and the people who paid in that auction expected to see him do something stupid with the money... But for me, it just seemed like a giant middle finger to people who could have put that money to good use.
    • InTheGallbladder: For me, it's when he decides to take a brief look at a cartoon fandom with a negative image the show's casual fans were already trying to shake off— and doesn't wait five seconds to grossly misrepresent it (complete with putting uncensored Rule 34 on his display). He caps it off by shoehorning in a reference to Brickleberry. I'm beginning to think he's a Sacred Cow to one of Comedy Central's higher-ups or something.
    • Theweb0123: Amen to the Rule 34 bit. First off, it was porn of My Little Pony. Ew. That went way too far. Secondly, isn't MLP copyrighted by Hasbro? Didn't Viacom just infringe someone's copyright?
  • Anarquistador: The seventh season finale of Bones was wall-bangingly ludicrous. I won't even go into how the evil genius super-hacker serial killer Pelant is somehow able to thoroughly screw Brennan and everyone else around her using the bar codes from library books. Pelant knows things and does things he simply should not be able to do. In that, they're physically and technologically impossible. He's beyond Crazy-Prepared; he's impossibly prepared. He's able to effortlessly exploit every flaw in the legal system to turn it against the heroes, despite the heroes's track record of trustworthiness, and despite the fact that he's a convicted felon who doesn't even own a computer. NO ONE is that smart. Or that prepared. Max's speech about "the system" comes dangerously close to some kind of Anti-Establishment Author On Board speech. The entire premise of the episode seems designed to prove that the system is evil, you can't win against it, and the only solution is to chuck it all and run.
    • Watcher CCG: The season 8 finale is even worse. For the sake of melodrama, Wangst, and yanking the audience's chain, Pelent cows Booth into breaking off his engagement with Bones, which is only 30 real-time minutes and a few in-story hours old, to save five random people from being whacked, and Pelant's computer voodoo means that he'll instantly know if Booth warns Bones in any way. Every review site I've visited that spoke up about this episode is filled to the brim with comments that drip with the fandom's unbridled rage, and not a one of the reviewers themselves are any less pissed. Damn near everyone was calling for Pelant's head to roll by the season 9 midpoint, and the Executive Producer laughed at them for it, confirming Pelant is his Creator's Pet, calling him "the top of our [criminal] pantheon." I honestly expected he'd survive until the last ten minutes of season 9, and maybe take Max, Christine or one of the Squints with him.
    • InTheGallbladder: The season 10 premier. In theory, having Lance Sweets get fatally shot during the investigation of the big conspiracy would bolster the show's ratings by kicking off the season with a Wham Episode. In practice, the writers' intentions were completely transparent—the only thing more obvious was how badly they'd shot themselves in the foot. The staff of the Jeffersonian singing "Lime in the Coconut" at Lance's funeral marked the exact point where the show had bled itself dry.
  • fluffything: Full House: The episode where Kimmy Gibbler ends up drunk is by far one of the most wanna-smash-my-head-against-the-nearest-hard-surface inducing episodes of any series ever. The episode starts out fine with Kimmy and DJ fighting after a party because Kimmy had one-too-many to drink. Kimmy thought she was the life of the party, and DJ points out that Kimmy was doing nothing more than making an embarassment of herself and others with her drunk antics. This in-and-of itself could've made for a great message of "Drinking alcohol doesn't make you look cool." But... Then they go and pull out the "Drunk driver cause of death" card. This is where the DMOS comes in. DJ goes off on Kimmy on how her mother was killed by a drunk driver. I'm sorry, what? Look, I understand that DUI is a major cause of death for millions of people each year and it's a very tragic subject many people end up going through. But, this was just handled so poorly in this episode. It felt so forced in. As if they were trying to make the situation more serious than it was. What was wrong with the "Kimmy made a drunk ass of herself" conflict? That was just fine and it set up the moral of "why drinking isn't always a good thing" without the contrived "A drunk driver killed my mom/dad/uncle" cliche. It's just so utterly jarring compared to the tone of the rest of the episode.
    • AntMan: The one where they take the train and Jessie is convinced to go back to school because he meets some bum. Isn't it just like this show to play into the stereotype that everyone who doesn't finish school becomes a jobless unsuccessful loser?
  • Mystic Birdsong: David and Mary Margaret's affair in Once Upon a Time. Call me old fashioned but, Heavens above that was bad! Okay so, here's how it went. Snow and James were already together in the fairy tale world, of course; but, their 'real world' counterparts were not. In fact, David (who was in a coma for a good portion of the plot, up until about an episode after his introduction) was already married to Katherine. That said, this causes a bit of a problem with Mary Margaret and David's "destiny" of being together. So, what do they decide to do? They decide to have David absolutely break Katherine's heart by cheating on her with Mary Margaret! Now, let's think of it this way, shall we? Your husband had been missing for awhile, you are insanely worried about him. Eventually, they finally find him again!... but, he's in a coma. You are still afraid that he might never wake up and you are genuinely concerned for his well-being. When he finally does wake up, you couldn't be happier! Except... he doesn't really act the way you remember, and he doesn't really even know you anymore. Well... you can rebuild your relationship, right? You can still have a chance at a normal, happy life, right? Nope! Because your husband is now cheating on you with the school-teacher on the premise of "twu wuv". That is what Katherine had to go through here. What's even worse is that David hardly gets any word from the town for this. No, it's Mary Margaret that gets all the hate here, even having the word "tramp" spray-painted onto her car (sure, it was Regina who did that but, the audience didn't exactly know it at the time, and it is very easy to assume that a regular townsperson could've done the deed). Now, you very well could make the argument that the townspeople knew and trusted Mary Margaret and thus were upset to learn that she was having an affair with a married man but, the fact that David still doesn't get any time of day for it still seems to come off as a cold Double Standard. Overall, the writers could've easily avoided this by having Katherine be David's fiance or something (as she actually was in the fairy tale world) and still have the same effect, without the hot topic of adultery. With all of this, it's no surprise that this whole thing caused a massive case of Abandon Shipping.
    • Blackjack254: For me, it has to be the whole "Black Heart" storyline introduced in "Welcome to Storybrooke", where Snow has a black spot on her heart because she killed Cora in the previous episode, a woman who had already murdered her mother, the maid who was a mother figure to her after the fact, and Snow also knew Cora and Regina were planning to kill her and her entire family. Plus, when Regina caught her in the vault Snow had no choice but to trick Regina into putting Cora's cursed heart back into her body, thus killing her. The alternative was death for her, her family, and countless others. What kind of a sick twisted world would exist where "good" people aren't allowed to defend themselves and everything they hold dear without being branded as evil? Not to mention Snow and David were in a war to overthrow King George in the Enchanted Forest; they killed several people there, yet they weren't corrupted then.
      • Green Wings: One life being put on the spot at that moment being seen as more valuable than the many that will be lost later happens a lot on the show. In one episode, Regina and Cora are trying to get Rumple's dagger, so they threaten to kill Snow's former caregiver if she doesn't hand it over. This dagger will give them the ability to force Rumple to kill everyone in Storybrooke, Snow, her husband, her kid, her grandchild and the caregiver included. The caretaker is telling her to let her go. So Snow hands it over. And of course, Cora kills the caretaker anyway. What a shock.
    • DIGIFAN 99: For me it is the whitewashing of the rapes, murders, emotional abuse, mental abuse, verbal abuse, neglect, mind rape, rape-by-proxy, wrongful imprisonment, kidnappings, attempted murders, enslavements and many more crimes that Regina has done and now we are supposed to believe that the book made her do all those things, support her when she wines like a four year old over a two day relationship, plans to kill an innocent woman, puts a man into slavery, and everything else that she does in season 4 that is for her own self-interest.
  • Kensu: The moment in the new Battlestar Galactica where it's revealed that the inhabitants of Earth were Cylons. Although the series had its ups and downs until this point, this is when the overall arc became irredeemable. Never mind the fact that the 13th Colony Earth being our planet actually made perfect sense (Gaeta notes that the stars from this planet's perspective match exactly the configuration they saw in the planetarium on Kobol. There's also the fact that the 12 colonies were named after the constellations of our zodiac, which actually appeared on their original flags.) For one brief shining moment everything made sense: the series took place in the far future. Kobol was actually a colony of Earth, and the cyclic Cylon rebellions were responsible for all the grief that humanity had experienced. However they quickly abandoned this for a bait-and-switch Earth and Adam and Eve plot. Truly a case of What Could Have Been.
  • Halfstep: Sliders, the episode Prophets and Loss, specifically a statement Quinn makes in the first 15-20 minutes of the episode. The Sliders land in a world where a Christian religious fundamentalist group has taken over the country, and basically controls everyone's way of life. Upon seeing the religious police and authorities do a number of crazy things on this world, Maggie and Rembrandt ask exactly how this world got to this state. Quinn gives an anvilicious speech about Christian fundamentalist parties on their home world, and how in the world they are currently in, these parties must have taken over the government. He then goes on to state that the people "Must not have been paying attention when they should have been. When you don't vote, you get what you deserve." Wow, just wow. Whose idea was this jingoistic little soapbox tirade? Oconnell's? The writers'? People often give a number of reasons why Sliders fared so poorly, including that it was too good to last, and that Executive Meddling prevented plots and characters from being as good as they could have been. I would like to respectfully submit that while the previous may have been true, the more basic problem was that Quinn Mallory, the main character, had the intelligence of a box of freaking rocks, and Prophets and Loss was just one of the most outrageous examples of a character who lept headfirst into full flegded stupidity from day one. All you Sliders fans who are screaming blasphemy right now hear me out: 90% of the episodes in this series were ultimately idiot plots, driven by Quinn Mallory jumping headlong into situations he knew nothing about, having usually just arrived into said situation's universe a whole 30 seconds earlier. Despite explicitly knowing that the mores and customs, and in some cases even basic laws of physics of his universe are not guaranteed to apply in the universes he jumps to, he still insists on getting in fistfights with the locals if he thinks they're doing something he isn't kosher with, and giving speeches about "how things should be" and "proper morality" to said inhabitants that would make Captain Picard blush note . However, as bad as this was, these episodes worked, mainly because a) the Professor was there, and b) Rembrandt hadn't derailed into a superhero yet. As a result, you had at least 2 voices of reason in the crew who would point out that Quinn's plan/opinion/idea was a) stupid, or b) not a stupid basis, but needing better execution. However in season 4, the Professor is gone, Wade is gone, Rembrandt is in the middle of a character morph, Maggie is just there because of her personality. So now when Quinn says retarded stuff like "Must not have been paying attention when they should have been. When you don't vote, you get what you deserve.", there's not one voice of reason to point out the 50 million wrong, ignorant, and flat out boneheaded problems with this statement. No one to point out that not everything that is a Democracy or a Republic on paper has any real voting choice available. No one to point out that on his own home world, there are no shortage of countries where you can vote all day, so long as you vote for who the party tells you to vote for, otherwise a .45 caliber tutorial on proper voting procedures will be applied to the back of your head, after which you will vote for the correct person. No one to even suggest that the reason these monsters were voted into power in the first place might be to protect against even bigger monsters that Quinn knows nothing about (having been in that universe for half an hour or so). Basically, at this point, it was quite clear that anything that made this show interesting was over, and from here on out, it was going to be Quinn soapboxing, without any opponents, straw or otherwise, to add any conflict. A Dethroning moment in my opinion, but given the speechifying and soapboxing crap that goes on in CSI and Law and Order, maybe this show was ahead of its time...
  • darkrage6: The Yes Dear episode "Halloween" pissed me off because of the sheer amount of Wallbangers and Jimmy and Greg holding the Idiot Ball in the last 5 minutes, which ruined an otherwise decent episode. The plot basically involves Jimmy and Greg wanting to get revenge on a guy who scared Sammy. Kim tries writing the guy a strongly-worded letter, which just makes the guy laugh his ass off, so Jimmy and Greg throw eggs at his house and one of them smashes the window and sets off the alarm, forcing them to hide in the guy's car to avoid getting caught. The stupidity starts when the guy's wife (or mother, there's no explanation for who she is) drives the car all the way to Vegas with Greg and Jimmy still in the back seat of her car with a dog and somehow managing to avoid getting caught, and the episode ends with them in Vegas sleeping in bed next to the woman. First off, how the hell did the woman not notice Jimmy and Greg hiding in the back of the car? Especially when they tried to escape when the woman stopped at a gas station; the woman was pumping gas right next to the car, yet Jimmy was somehow able to open and close the car door without her hearing or noticing anything (oh yeah, and the woman's dog escapes from the car when the guys open the door to try and escape, how does she not notice that?) Then when Greg calls Kim on his cell phone while in the car (again, how do the women not notice that?), he doesn't bother trying to explain his situation to her, he just tells her to go find the dog that jumped out of the car at the gas station. WTF was the point of that? Then the final scene of the episode shows Kim sleeping in bed next to the dog, with no explanation, along with the aforementioned scene of Jimmy and Greg in bed with the old woman, why are they in bed with the woman? Did she find out about them? If not, then why would they risk getting caught by sleeping right next to her? Shouldn't they be trying to get home instead? And how come neither of them called Christine or Kim and told them about the situation at the end? There's only so far you can push the Rule of Funny before it crosses over into complete stupidity; in this case it felt like the writers were too lazy to come up with a real ending, so they just didn't bother trying to explain much of anything.
  • Animeking1108: I don't really watch How To Rock that much, but the episode I just watched assured I won't be doing it again. The B-Plot of the episode involved the Bishōnen having an embarassing Yearbook photo, and the Black Best Friend and The Scrappy (yeah, I didn't take the time to learn their names) are so hell bent on finding out what it is. First, they have his sister bring it to them, but the picture was cut out. The Black Best Friend then has the nerve to call her evil for it. Because, god forbid there actually be a loving sibling on a Nick-Com. They finally get the picture because The Scrappy used a Paper-Thin Disguise over the phone, and the principal bought it! When the Bishōnen finally gets his zit cleared out, he's about to get a good year book picture, but the Black Best Friend and The Scrappy show up with the picture of his mouth hanging open. With his face aghast, the photographer still takes the picture, ruining his yearbook photo. And fans of this series wonder why it's getting cancelled? With characters as unlikable as these, I fully understand why.
  • RAZ: Smallville. Oh, Smallvile. I still remember the exact DMOS that gave me a sometimes overly biased hatred of this series. I'd seen episodes before that were pretty laughably bad, like that whole infamous "Lana is a witch" episode from the fourth season or that one episode that devoted its entire hour to becoming a blatant ripoff of the Saw series. But all those Face Palm-worthy episodes were easily topped in the season six finale when Lois Lane was killed and the writers sunk so low that they actually used the amazingly childish cliche of her being revived by the miraculous healing power of Chloe's tears. After watching that scene play out I honest to god just sat there dumbfounded for several minutes unable to believe that I'd just seen a show that's supposedly for a young adult audience pull a twist that's reserved for the cheesiest animated children's movies from the 80's before finally uttering the words "You have got to be kidding me." In that single scene, Smallville transformed itself from a show that often had bad writing to one of the worst television shows I'd ever watched.
  • Samuel: I used to like MADtv but now I hate it due to it being Crosses the Line Twice only to fall flat on its face to Dude, Not Funny!. The recurring sketches I hate from the series are The Bible Dude sketches because of the anti-gay jokes in them, but if there's one DMOS it would have to be one where the superhero thinks the coach is gay, and he's about to zap him with the bible, but when the coach says he's actually a pedophile, he lets him go. That moment was very over the top, if not prejudiced. Dear writers of the Bible Dude sketches, there's a difference of being offensive for the sake of humour, and there's humour going way too far.
  • RomanatorX The Red Dwarf episode "Tikka to Ride" is a total smeg-up. The show messes up its own continuity within 30 minutes (how come future-Kennedy was still able to assasinate himself and not get affected by the paradox, yet the future Red Dwarf crew get affected when the Modern Red Dwarf crew die?) Lister does not have his Character Development over the past six seasons undone, oh no. He takes the same route as Peter Griffin and is Flanderized into a self-centered idiot who is obsessed with smegging Indian food, to the point where he causes the events of the episode in the first place due to said Indian food obsession. Worst of all, it's not a funny episode. This episode didn't just showcase a slip in decline; it showcased a massive drop.
    • Thraxas: Not to mention the fact that it was explicitly stated in the previous series (the previous episode, in fact!) that the Time-Drive couldn't take them back to Earth, only move them backwards and forwards in time, yet in this episode it takes them to Dallas. While the series had never exactly been strict when it comes to continuity, it had previously only been little details that didn't hugely matter (who really cares how big the original Red Dwarf crew was or how many times Lister had his appendix removed?), not major plot-points.
    • Japanese Teeth: While "Stoke Me a Clipper" was a great episode, and had a great send-off for Rimmer, it necessitated the single most destructive change to the series' formula by removing Rimmer and replacing him with Kochanski. Aside from the fact that "two guys who hate each other being forced to co-exist" is an integral part of the series premise, changing the characters shoots pretty much every existing character dynamic to hell. Kryten's personality becomes dominated by his feelings of jealousy over Lister (something that he never showed in the show before this point), a lot of Lister's "jerkish lad" tendencies are downplayed in favor of him trying to impress/get to know Kochanski, and Kochanski herself simply isn't neurotic enough to fill the gaping hole that Rimmer's absence leaves in the show. The only unchanged character is Cat, who's so shallow that there isn't much to change. I normally stay away from the "Dethroning Moment" pages, but that particular point is where the general quality of the show took a sharp downturn.
  • JIKTV: The 2003 Baywatch Reunion Made-for-TV Movie Baywatch: Hawaiian Wedding qualifies. It's clear that they wanted Alexandra Paul (Stephanie) involved, but stock footage for flashback scenes would have been so much better. Heck, almost anything would have. Alexandra Paul plays the villain, a criminal named Allison Ford who looks like Stephanie because she got plastic surgery to look like her in order to mess with Mitch's head. I could accept a mermaid episode as believable ("Rendezvous"), but not this.
  • coldmaster613: There was this episode of Touched by an Angel: called Monica's Bad Day, where surprise! Monica does have a bad day. Why, because she met a rude jerkass named Flynn Hodge. I get that this episode was to teach us about how to not let anger get to us or else it would cause everyone to have a bad day, but this guy was a real asshole towards Monica. She tries to be nice and apologies to him but he instead yells and insults her. Sure he became nicer at the end of the episode, but I really hated this guy especially since his attitude towards Monica went unpunished.
  • Tyrathius: Supernatural episode 8x10 "Torn and Frayed". So we have this vampire, Benny, who's a pretty cool dude. Dean met him in Purgatory and they fought their way out together. He and Dean have saved each other's respective asses several times. Now that they're topside, Benny is surviving off of stolen blood transfusions and isn't hurting anyone. But for some never-explained reason, Dean's brother Sam hates Benny and decides Dean has to choose between them. So who does Dean choose, the loyal ally who's had his back for the past year, or the controlling brother who spent the first half of the season bitching about how much better his life was before Dean had the nerve to not be dead after all and doesn't want him to have any friends? Sam, of course, for no other reason than Status Quo Is God. Sam's been a Jerk Ass pretty much all season, but this was the point that just wrecked the show for me.
    • RAZ: I'd originally gone with the 9th Season Premiere as my moment, but "Dog Dean Afternoon" takes all the problems I had with that and makes them seem minor qualms in comparison. The plot is beyond silly as is: the only suspect the brothers have in a series of supernatural killings is a dog, so they that concoct a spell that allows Dean to talk with all animals, but it has the side effect of giving him the personality traits of a dog as well. At one point in the episode, thanks to obtaining said characteristics, Dean begins sexually oggling a poodle. Yes, you read that right: Supernatural just had an implied bestiality gag. I've really, really tried to stick with this show through thick and thin, but after something that depraved I think I'll be quitting things for good before I discover how much lower it can sink.
    • SAMUSFORCE: The episode "Purge" really got on my last nerve. I was sort of ok with Sam's suicidal tendencies. He has had been through a lot and is probably not thinking straight. PTSD and all that. I could even be ok with him saying "we shouldn't be brothers, let's just be partners instead." He is probably trying to separate himself from Dean and this will all go back into the status Quo by the end when Sam gets a chance to finally get a backbone. What finally gets me, is when he said "I wouldn't do the same thing in your position". Wow, just, wow. I... I have never seen a reason more to get mad at a guy in my life. So basically, Sam, who we have seen for the past 8 seasons show how much he loved his brother and would stand by him, just basically said "If you were in pain and suffering, yeah I would kill you." Remember how in the Nostalgia Critic's review of Neverending story 2-the joke about Bastian not saving Atreyu if he was in that position? Yeah, only here it isn't funny. Sam just basically told his brother that he would take the low row. I do hope the intention was not for us to side with Sam, because I don't side with murderers. This is just a difamation of character, I wonder what they were going for with this? Did they want us to be reminded why Dean is the man of the house, or why Dean is a main character and Sam isn't? I would have loved it if Dean had yelled at the end, "Well, thanks for being there for me bro! Glad to know that I can count on you when I am about to die!" Thanks Sam, you just made me hate you.
    • Fan01 The ending to the 5x19 episode "Hammer of the Gods" really bugged me. The brother saved Kali because Gabriel asked them too and they do even though she was trying to kill them, had killed mortals in the hotel and eaten them with the other gods. The brothers should have just left her there to be killed by Lucifer but for some reason they take her. We never see her after they shove her into their car so they could have killed her off screen but that was never said one way or another. Kali was just never seen again.
      • These Days, Those Days: Gabriel himself is just as guilty of killing mortals, in his role as the Trickster. The brothers spare him because he is working against Lucifer. And Kali was also working against Lucifer—that was the whole point of the gods' convening their meeting. So it could be that Gabriel's plan was for an alliance between himself, the Winchesters, and Kali, all of them working together, but that could only have happened if Gabriel had survived the battle with Lucifer. Since Gabriel wasn't around, Kali went her separate ways (or maybe, as you say, the Winchesters did kill her).
  • X Spectre Grey X: I am enjoying Arrow to a decent degree, even with its lack of overall focus and needless training montages. There are bad episodes, "Vertigo" being especially bad for how hammy the Count is, but "The Odyssey" is easily the worst. First of all, Ollie takes a huge step back in his character development. The previous episode had him coming to terms with how his mother could be guilty of collaborating with criminals. It's a big step for the character because she's really all he has left; his sister is a Spoiled Brat who is constantly acting out to spite her family, his ex-girlfriend is dating his best friend, who is too busy trying to become a better man (and succeeding, mind you) to really pay Ollie much attention, and his bodyguard is the one accusing his mother. At the end of the episode, he resolves to question her with an arrow trained on her head. In "The Odyssey", she begs him to let her live for her children, then proceeds to shoot at him. You'd think this would kind of clue him in a little, but instead he resolves that, because she begged, she can't be guilty! Then there's the pointless bit with Slade Wilson not being the Deathstroke (I'm assuming that he and his partner both use the alias) that tortured Ollie, instead making him a Sink-or-Swim Mentor. Other then enticing people to watch this episode, what is the point of this? It goes against his comics characterization to a ridiculous degree, and feels like it's only there to say "hey, remember this is based off of DC characters!" There's also Ollie using the phone from a guard tower to call his girlfriend. Seriously, with how whiny and annoying Ollie is in the flashback segments, it doesn't feel like he's changed at all from when he arrived on the island! What did the time with Yao Fei teach you? All the episode really does is induct Felicity, a character who comes off as a Creator's Pet and whose actress cannot pull off Adorkable to save her life, into the team, and even then, her reasoning is so contrived that it's beyond unbelievable. Really, you're gonna associate yourself with someone you know has killed people for the boss who was somewhat nice to you? I know Star City is bad, but really? Overall, a crappy episode that is the first real sign of the show's decline (around when it was renewed for a second season as well).
    • Cranky Storming: I tried to watch that series, but the episode "Damaged" has made me question continuing. The police basically decide to let Oliver go only because the investigating officer had a personal grudge against him. Even though they had video evidence of him knowing where to find his vigilante gear, and earlier footage would show him placing it there. Any explanation other than "he's the archer" requires such a leap of logic that any doubt stops being reasonable. This means that the only reason Arrow isn't just a five-part miniseries is because the police are utterly incompetent.
    • whiteowl82: Thea going away with Malcom Merlyn in the Season 2 finale. Thea always behaved like a spoiled brat, but this takes the cake. When she finds out that Merlyn is her father she is understandably upset, but then she starts being really mean to everyone around her. She insults Moira, goes all “Oh my God you betrayed me” on Oliver (even though he just recently found out himself), says that she’s no longer a Queen (even though she had a great father who loved her) and leaves an “Oh my God I’m so miserable” letter to Roy before she leaves with the guy that, according to her, is the cause of all her problems. Seriously, if he takes her back, I’ll lose all the respect I have for him.
    • RAZ: Sara's death. All that build up for the character in the previous season and all that story potential left gets completely wasted for a poorly done, cheap shock death at the end of the season premiere. Even worse is that this is the same person who had equal footing with Oliver, yet is dispatched in such a weak, anti-climactic way. It's not enough to completely ruin the show for me, yet anyway, but it's definitely a big red mark for the third season.
  • Midna: A Weekend Update on Saturday Night Live decided to tackle the long-since-blossomed adult fanbase of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. The result, well... Making fun of the MLP fanbase is not in itself a bad thing - funny parodies of the fandom, both positive and negative, can and have been made - but the utter lack of effort put into this "satire" is frankly astounding. Instead of bothering to come up with something genuinely funny or satirical (like, say, one focusing on other toy companies attempting to cash in on Periphery Demographics of equally famous children's series as suggested by an Equestria Daily commenter), since quite frankly there's a lot to make fun of about bronies, they resort to the same "lel adult men like a show for little girls they must be pedophiles xd" bullshit that one has likely already seen, oh, just about everywhere on the internet. Come on, SNL writers, the fandom has been around for two (soon to be three) years. How is this in any way clever?
    • BoredMe: In general, whenever Saturday Night Live runs into something like MLP: FIM or another recent phenomenon, they make it painfully clear that the senior writing staff are unconnected with the contemporary world. They've also gotten lazy and/or run out of ideas. Which leads into my DMoS: A skit where they ripped into the writing on Homeland of all shows. SNL writers, let's get this clear: Homeland's writers are the best on TV. You are the worst. Far too many skits in the past few years have ended with me thinking: "The only funny thing here is the fact that these skit writers still have jobs in this industry".
  • Animeking1108: Episode 205 of Hikonin Sentai Akibaranger might as well be called Grand Delusion, Fuck You, Power Rangers. This episode was pretty much a 24 minute Take That towards Power Rangers by making the American counterparts to Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger as loud and obnoxious, and that they were under a curse that needed to be broken. That was just a mean-spirited slap in the face to Power Ranger fans that enjoy this show.
  • Falconwing: I've long since accepted the fact that Amy Schmumer was hired by "Comedy Central" more for her looks than her actual comedic talent. However even I wasn't prepared for what I saw on an episode of Inside Amy Schmumer. It was basically a Slasher Flick skit that instantly devolved into a 3 minute neverending fart joke. Seriously Amy, this is the best you could do for Television? For goodness sake, the last few Scary Movies had better Toilet Humor than that.
  • Yumny: During the third season of the Game of Thrones, there is a few moments that really make you realize that this is an adaptation meant to draw in male viewers, thus constantly sidelining and/or changing the female characters that aren't traditionally "badass" (e.g. Arya) because they'd be too boring or unlikable for the audience. One of the moments that best examplifies this is Catelyn Stark's speech about Jon Snow. She apologizes for her mistreatment of Jon Snow? She blames everything that happened on her own treatment of Jon Snow? Not only is it grossly out of character, it also makes Catelyn into so many archetypes (Wicked Stepmother, everyone?) that George R.R. Martin was trying to subvert in the books. Very annoying, B&W.
    • Charleston Man: The horrific Character Derailment of Doreah and Daenerys in the second season finale. Doreah is derailed by betraying Daenerys and sleeping with Xaro (in the books, Doreah died loyal to the end, and Xaro was Camp Gay), while in response Daenerys is derailed by locking Doreah in a vault to die even as Doreah cries and begs for mercy. No... just no. Daenerys can be ruthless, but she would never be so deranged and tyrannical, especially to someone she previously was shown to care about. She would hear Doreah out and accept her back if she believes she's remorseful or simply banish her if she is not, as she does with Jorah later. The whole made-up story for Daenerys this season was crap, but this ending took it to a whole new level of suck.
    • Red Wright: Theon Greyjoy saying his real father died at King's Landing in Game of Thrones was this for me. Seriously? They already went out of their way to make him a pathetic failure in every area of life, but this takes the cake. It's like Jon Snow saying that his mother died at the Twins.
    • Iron Lion: Jaime's rape of Cersei at the Great Sept of Baelor, a scene which was disturbing but consensual in the books. By this point in the series Jaime is firmly established as a likable character, and to make him a rapist undoes all the Character Development he's been through. Not only that, but there's an unfortunate element of the "Not If They Enjoyed It" Rationalization at work in the scene.
    • Samadhir: The scene with Littlefinger instructing two prostitutes how pleasure each other in "You Win or You Die." While the series, particularly the first season, is rather infamous for its Sexposition scenes, this one definitely feels like the worst it ever put out and comes across like something edited out of a soft-core porn movie rather than something that belongs in such a well-written and masterfully crafted series. There's no reason for it whatsoever except as a blatant excuse for fanservice; the only narrative purpose it serves is to let Littlefinger describe some of his backstory and motivations, but 1. You can easily infer those things from his other scenes in the series and 2. Even if it is necessary to have them spelled out to the audience, did the writers honestly think anyone would pay attention to his monologue when there are two naked, moaning prostitutes finger-banging each other in the foreground?! For a series with a lot of gut-wrenching and horrifying scenes, this is the only one I have serious trouble re-watching due to how poorly done, borderline-misogynistic and insulting to the audience's intelligence it is.
  • Lady Stardust: in American Horror Story: Murder House it's revealed that Tate is The Rubber Man. And as if that scene isn't bad enough, his mom finds out he raped Vivian. How does he react? Evil laugh? Nope. Coldly standing there admitting to the act? Not even. He whines like a pathetic child. Nice going writers. You took an interesting character and turned him into an unsympathetic loser.
  • Tropers/Windower: I would say the DMoS for Terra Nova is the entire show itself, as a testament to how much I completely despise it, but since I'm not allowed to do that, I've narrowed it down to one moment that completely pissed me the fuck off: "It seemed like a good idea at the time". In the first episode when Commander Taylor askes Jim Shannon what possessed him and his wife to have a 3rd child (which is illegal in the series' dystopian future), Jim relies with "It seemed like a good idea at a time." Which is probably the line Spielberg will use to justify the existence of this show to me. I cannot even begin to describe in how many ways this statement is bullshit. You're living in a smog covered dystopia where chances are you'll be eating an orange only once a decade at best, where over population has resulted in the streets being flooded with homeless families, where it is not only illegal to have a third child but undesirable to have even two given how much of a food shortage there is. How is it a good idea to have a third child? How??? This is the moment that communicated to me that this show will suck, and sucked it did.
  • RA 2: By a mile, Donna is the most unlikable character on Parks and Recreation, and "Gin it Up!" is the epitome of it. She posts some very besmirching tweets of her boss Leslie - who is presently up for recall and getting a frenzy of bad press. What punishment does this bitch get for almost destroying her boss's career? Nothing! Just because she's sorry and said some nice things occasionally, that makes it a-ok. Come on, Parks, Jerry gets several Pet the Dog moments, and Tom gets called out all the time for his antics (including internet addiction, something Donna should perhaps look into). Why does Donna get to be above the laws of decency?
  • Tropers/rtw2act: I love Breaking Bad as much as the next guy. However, for me, the dethroning moment of suck is the Fly Episode. There is a great story arc that happens in this season, with the cousins and the beginning of the chess match between Walter and Gus. However, this bottle episode completely kills the momentum. For one thing, why do they have to spend an entire episode killing a single fly? Walter is a chemistry teacher who honestly should know better. Next, the episode (unlike the rest) has no continuity for the rest of the show. This episode feels like wasted potential.
  • Strix Obscuro: "The Magical Delights of Stevie Nicks" from American Horror Story: Coven was anything but magical. One of the few likeable characters dies for despicable reasons, another gets buried alive at the hands of The Scrappy, and meanwhile, Nicks just sits at the piano and sings, looking more like some tired old lounge singer than a special guest star.
  • Morgikit: I remember Designing Women being a mildly funny, enjoyable show. But after having seen the appropriately named third season episode "Julia Drives Over the First Amendment", my opinion has completely reversed. In this episode the main character Julia, an outspoken feminist, is upset that a newsstand near her office is selling a locally published pornographic magazine. The author filibuster she delivers against porn is enough to make her come off less like the crusader for women's rights the writers probably intended, and more like a prudish Moral Guardian vilifying anyone whose consensual sexual activities don't meet her approval. But it gets worse when Julia decides to engage in "civil disobedience" to stop the magazine's sale. Does she organize a protest or encourage like-minded citizens to boycott? No, she plows her car into the newsstand, causing hundreds of dollars in damage and potentially putting the owner's life at risk. She does pay for the damages (which the owner accepts rather than calling the police for some reason), but gloats that he'll have to close shop for the day to make repairs. Later, after finding out he's still selling the magazine, she drives into the stand again and is arrested. When the magazine's publisher threatens to sue her for halting distribution and violating her freedom of speech, the other main characters treat her like a villain and a hypocrite for being a woman in the porn industry and for "fighting censorship with censorship" (i.e. filing a legitimate lawsuit against someone engaging in criminal activities against her business). In contrast to their derision and general bad attitude, she is friendly and well-mannered. She calmly defends the merits of her magazine and her credentials as a fellow feminist, pointing out she donates a considerable portion of her earnings to women's rights organizations. For this, she is dismissed with lame jokes like "donating to the Humane Society doesn't make you a cat". Even after the publisher generously drops the lawsuit, Julia is hostile and rude, vowing to see her put out of business and claiming porn doesn't deserve First Amendment protection because "it's not about speaking your mind, it's about making money". This ignores that almost all forms of media are to some extent about turning a profit. And to top it all off, she drives into the newsstand yet again at the episode's end while the audience applauds. So in summary: destruction of property is a legit form of protest, sex-positive feminist women are gender traitors, and publishing an adult magazine makes you less deserving of free speech than white supremacists because at least they're trying to make a point, albeit a bigoted one (Julia almost explicitly states that last part). I have no intention to watch the rest of this series to see how much worse it got before being cancelled.
    • 13thman: This troper can tell you that at one point in the later seasons, Julia threatens to kidnap/kill a baby, she's dead serious, and the audience is clearly expected to see this as humorous, if that's any indication of how bad things got.
  • CJ Croen 1393: A minor gripe, but in an episode of Friends, Ross incited the wrath of my inner paleonerd when he tries to make small talk. The subject? The mystery of, and I quote, "A Mesozoic Mastodon with a Paleozoic crustacean in its mouth"... where do I begin? For starters, the Mastodon was a relative of the wooly mammoth and most certainly did NOT live in the Mesozoic era, it was a terrestrial herbivore that lived nowhere near the ocean so it most certainly NOT be eating any sort of crustacean. The clincher? Ross is a paleontologist! Isn't it his job to know this stuff?
  • Ilove Troping: An episode of Friends that really rubs this troper's rhubarb is TOW All the Poker. Phoebe instantly accuses the guys of being sexist for excluding them from the game, despite the guys having said nothing of the sort, and the fact that the girls have their own moments without the guys all the time. Then, after they have forced the guys to let them play, Rachel complains that the guys must get their kicks from exploiting their friends and stealing their money when they lose. They forced their way into the night, only to bitch about the very nature of the activity they forced themselves into. Men VS Women plots in Friends got incredibly boring and uninspired anyway, but this one was the worst. Sadly, this entire double standard is Played for Laughs, with the men coming off as jerks.
  • Chicago Mel: Highlander: The Ahriman ep trilogy and Richie's death. It just wanted viewers to accept story elements that were never known to be part of the mythos, and besides, Richie should not have been dumb enough to get close to Duncan when he was blindly swinging.
  • Some New Guy: Criminal Minds is one of my alltime favorite shows, and "Profiler, Profiled" is a fairly decent episode in that it provides excellent character growth for Morgan and gives him the first of his many awesome moments. My problem with the episode, however, centers around the episode's secondary antagonist, a racist, Smug Snake Cowboy Cop who believes Morgan is responsible for the murders. His entire screentime could basically be described as him ranting about Morgan's "guilt" using evidence that is beyond flimsy (because a 15 year old boy would totally be capable of murdering someone as brutally as the first victim was) and screaming insults at the BAU for daring to vouch for Morgan's innocence. The most laughable moment was towards the end, where the detective threatens to press charges against the entire BAU unless they drop the case and let him charge Morgan with the murders. Because a federal court would surely side with a low level cop with a history of temper issues and racial prejudice over one of the most important branches of the FBI, right? Look, I have no problems with Police Procedural shows having antagonists who are law enforcement who accuse one of the main cast for the episode's crimes, but at least make it believable.
  • London Kd S: Blakes Seven has multiple examples in the episode "The Harvest of Kairos". All of the regular characters are written as horribly OOC to service the episode scriptwriter's Villain Stu, a macho jerk named Jarvik, but the most serious examples are Avon being written as an ivory-tower Mad Scientist who pays no attention to the actual plot because he's wrapped up in research, instead of the very practical guy he usually is, and Servalan, one of the least libido-driven female supervillains ever, being depicted as a submissive masochist who gets off on Jarvik choking her when she tries to argue with him. Jarvik also gets played as a Noble Demon despite setting up a whole squad of people who are meant to be on his side to get killed as part of his plan.
  • Max West: I can't stand Judge Judy, but the thing that really drives me insane about her show? Her treatment of domestic violence victims. She does not console them or praise them for getting away from their tormentors. She thoroughly curses them out! In fact, this is the same thing she does to everyone! Any real judge who did this would not only get a bad reputation, but could risk a mistrial or appellate reversal! Any elected official who blamed and/or yelled at the victim might as well resign from office! But Judge Judy doing this is okay or even hilarious? No way - this is a case of Dude, Not Funny!
  • neckinhalf: Dexter should have its own page due to season 8. However, one moment in particular made me give up on the SERIES. As in, I can't even watch season 1-4 DVDs now. Dexter has Oliver Saxon (this season's big bad) on a table, ready to kill him. Except, he's realized that thanks to Hannah's love, he doesn't need to kill anymore. So he leaves Saxon there for Deb to take in. Two HUGE problems here: A) Saxon has to have some kind of proof at this point that Dex is a serial killer, just by looking through Vogel's files. He would IMMEDIATELY rat Dex out if he was taken in. Deb would be in a pinch to say the least. B) Dexter has had murderous urges as a child. He killed small animals, had messed up drawings, and all the other "hallmarks" of a serial killer that are in public consciousness. Yet, the love of a woman who poisons people has somehow eroded that. A woman that he spared from his table and fell in love with for very little reason in the first place. That THIS is how Dexter loses his urge to kill is an utter embarrassment to say the very least.
  • Loekman3: Animal Face Off claims to do their research for each one of the animals but in fact, they exist just to frustrate the animal fans to the point that a real expert would just roll their eyes and kick the asses of the so called show experts out of the show. The epitome of this is the ending of the saltwater vs great white shark where the narrator apparently stated that a crocodile has to resurface to breathe despite the fact that only a few minutes has passed since the crocodile has entered underwater. Any reptile experts will tell you that a crocodile can stay underwater for hours while a shark would not survive that long since the crocodile kept biting it to the point of incapacitation. Thus they created a cheap victory for the shark just for a lame shock value, i.e. a plot twist for the sake of a plot twist. Wiz and Boomstick has every right to laugh their asses off after that scene.
  • Tidal_Wave_17: Psych Episode "Shawn vs. The Red Phantom". Shawn and Gus investigate a missing person case at a comic book convention. While there, Gus shows off his nerdy side, bringing a comic book that he has been saving since he was young to get it signed, stating that it would be worth a lot of money. It turns out the guy who wrote and drew the comic is the same guy behind the disappearances. Shawn finds this out by finding a clue on one of the pages. Does he just bring the comic with him as evidence? No, he rips the page out of the book before running off. Sure, he was on a bit of a deadline because there was a supposed bomb, but seriously? Was ripping up the comic and costing Gus thousands or millions of dollars really necessary?
  • FezJez: Skins Series 6 had a lot of bad moments, but for me, the true dethroning moment was Nick and Franky getting together. Before this story arc started, they'd only had a single scene together without any other characters (back in Series 5) in which Franky only had two lines, she had spent the gap between Series 5 and 6 in a relationship with his brother, and in the first episode of Series 5 he'd carried out a pretty serious campaign of bullying against her. There is no realistic reason for them having romantic feelings for each other. Beyond that, it was just a cheap and forced way of farting more conflict into the series and Sean Teale and Dakota Blue Richards had little if any chemistry together
  • Anarquistador: Season 2 of Defiance had quite a few problems, but the sudden shoehorned Green Aesop toward the end of the Kaziri storyline was just the worst. Kaziri-possesed Irisa tells Nolan that the Humans don't deserve their world, and it is terraforming Earth for the people who deserve it. Yes, the Humans are the problem here. Not the arrogant, imperialistic Castithans who have no problem casually murdering people who are in their way. Not the cold Indogenes who are perfectly okay with sentient-rights violations in the name of science or victory. Not the Votans as a whole, who came to an alien planet and just assumed that the indigenous lifeforms would just hand it over... and by all indications, were actually willing to co-exist until the Pale Wars broke out. No, Humans Are the Real Monsters here. You are not our god, Irzu. Earth is ours, to do with as we see fit, not as you would have us do. By what right do you judge us?
  • 13thman: CSI: Miami season 4 Episode 12: The Score. Doubles as a Dethroning Moment of Suck for the whole franchise for this troper. Summary: a Pick Up Artist has been found killed at a Pick Up Artist mixer. While the CSI crew is looking for evidence and questioning suspects, the host, meant to be a fictional representation of David DeAngelo, a Real Life PUA expert, asks why any of the female guests would out and out kill the victim. Calleigh, with all the professionalism and consideration of a 6th grade teenager, says (paraphrased) "maybe the killer didn't appreciate being called a 'target'," a reference to an earlier statement that the host had made, when asked to describe PUA methods. Right there this troper was done: It's not like CSI writers try very hard to hide their politics anyway, but that particular line from Calleigh confirmed that the writers had thrown away all pretense of a crime drama, in favor of simply writing bad situations in which expy's of people they dislike (presumably people who don't share their far left wing beliefs) for one reason or another get screwed over. Really, can you imagine being in a situation like that in real life, and the investigator tells you that your friend/acquaintance/whoever basically had it coming for trying to pick up a date? One wonders how it would have been received if the victim had been female, and when her female friends asked "why would anyone want to kill her", Horatio said something equally snotty like "maybe he got tired of telling her twice"? From that moment on, I swore to never watch any CSI again, unless they did a crossover with something like Perry Mason or Matlock, where all their evidence gets thrown out or eviscerated for being gathered in gross violations of the 4th and 5th Amendments.
  • Time Traveler Jessica: There was one bit of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. where I knew the show was never going to live up to its potential. Was it when it floundered throughout the first half of the season? No. It was right at the end in the finale - when Coulson gets over being betrayed by Fury in a scene that, I timed it, is less than two minutes. This is the driving conflict for the latter half of the season, and involves Coulson getting Character Development beyond the ultra-loyal S.H.I.E.L.D. agent and forced us to see Fury as a more complex character... for all Tony's talk about him being underhanded in Avengers, we were finally seeing it. I expected them to resolve it eventually - I wasn't naive enough to think Marvel would have the balls to have Coulson go rogue, or in any other way let it end without Coulson forgiving him - but I was expecting Coulson would get at least a gloriously long What the Hell, Hero? speech, possibly with Fury retorting that Coulson doesn't have the high ground. But nope, apparently Coulson can be bought with a promotion and a compliment, and will no longer be upset about being subjected to a procedure 1. he himself had suggested they stop attempting because it drove people insane 2. apparently drove him insane and required a mind wipe 3. was so painful he was screaming and begging for death 4. meant he had to lie to the woman he loved about being alive and never see her again (and presumably any surviving family and non-S.H.I.E.L.D. friends he had too). On top of that... he still doesn't have many answers, and doesn't try to get them! Is there a reason he doesn't ask Fury for more information on the alien in the tank? Is there a reason Fury doesn't offer it to the new director of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Look, I know they were in a rush to wrap it up in case they didn't get renewed, and God forbid they end on anything that was the least bit emotionally challenging because God knows Marvel studios thinks their audience is made of babies who need to be spoonfed and can't be allowed to be sad for more than ten minutes, but if you could come up with a solution that doesn't make me think less of both characters, that would be fantastic. Season 2 thus far hasn't inspired much hope they'll get ambitious again any time soon either.
  • PersonalPOV: I had to drop The Millers like a hot potato when the matriarch is revealed to have turned an innocent old lady into a psychotic intolerant christian who promises that her children are going to get 'that old time religion', implying she's homophobic now, too, at the end of episode 2. It's really sad because the actress that plays the character, Margo Martindale, is great, but that was absolutely unforgivable.

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