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With a show like Friends, it’s only expected to have the one where everyone is good, and the one where everybody is a Jerkass. No guesses to which of the two we are listing here.

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  • CJ Croen 1393: A minor Friends gripe in "The One With The Ball", Ross incited the wrath of my inner paleonerd when he tries to make small talk. The subject? The mystery of, and I quote, "A Mesozoic Mastodon with a Paleozoic crustacean in its mouth"... where do I begin? For starters, the Mastodon was a relative of the wooly mammoth and most certainly did NOT live in the Mesozoic era, it was a terrestrial herbivore that lived nowhere near the ocean so it most certainly NOT be eating any sort of crustacean. The clincher? Ross is a paleontologist! Isn't it his job to know this stuff? Oh, and making it doubly disgusting, Ross ponders "how did [the crustacean] get there?" Bear in mind, Ross spent an entire episode once debating with Phoebe on the topic of evolution, and naturally Ross is in favor of evolution. As a proponent of evolution, Ross should also know that if an animal only known from the Paleozoic was found in Mesozoic strata with no explanation of how it got there (or vice versa), the entire theory of evolution would be completely discredited.
  • Ilove Troping: An episode of Friends that really rubs my rhubarb is "TOW All the Poker". Phoebe instantly accuses the guys of being sexist for excluding them from the game, despite the guys having said nothing of the sort, and the fact that the girls have their own moments without the guys all the time. Then, after they have forced the guys to let them play, Rachel complains that the guys must get their kicks from exploiting their friends and stealing their money when they lose. They forced their way into the night, only to bitch about the very nature of the activity they forced themselves into. Men VS Women plots in Friends got incredibly boring and uninspired anyway, but this one was the worst. Sadly, this entire double standard is Played for Laughs, with the men coming off as jerks.
  • Retloclive: For me, my DMoS with Friends was "TOW Joey Speaks French." Now I've enjoyed the show for the most part, even into the later seasons when fans started to claim that the show wasn't what it use to be due to its main cast getting highly flanderized as the series progressed. This however, was no more blatantly obvious to me in this particular season ten episode where Phoebe tries to teach Joey how to speak French for a play he's auditioning for. Joey was always seen as the dumbest of the group in an adorable and funny sort of way, but never to the point where he was outright mentally retarded which this episode shows him off to be. There is absolutely no excuse that what he hears of the french language comes out as random gibberish, and Phoebe even does a step-by-step process for the first line of the play's script, which Joey follows perfectly... only to come out as random gibberish again when Phoebe tells him to say the full sentence back to her fully. I've seen a lot of people claim that Friends ended early, but for me, this episode proved it to me that the show had officially run its course, and was running out of material.
  • Waka Laka: I was never particularly fond of Ross and Rachel's relationship; they didn't have a lot of chemistry and most of their romance plots seemed to just revolve around them trying to out-jealous each other. But there was a moment in "TOW The List" that really bugged me, and that was how the other friends reacted to Ross and Rachel's kiss an episode prior. Bear in mind that at the time Ross was still in a relationship with Julie, a very sweet woman whose only crime was getting Ross first, and nobody except Rachel had any problem with. Yet nobody brings up the fact that Ross just cheated, or calls either of them out on it. Instead, everyone (especially the girls) are all happy for Rachel for finally winning the guy, and not at all concerned by this incredibly selfish and cruel behavior. What was especially grating was that Monica seemed the happiest, when it was already established that she had the closest relationship to Julie, to the point where she outright called her a friend! Wouldn't Monica be at least a little bit upset that her brother and best friend just betrayed another friend? It also makes their eventual anger over Ross cheating on Rachel in season three really hypocritical. Absolutely nobody came off looking good in the end.
  • dat_nerd_again : Both parts of "TOW in Barbados" anyone? Seriously though, the premise is ridiculous, character's quirks get exaggerated ad nauseaum, the jokes about Monica's hair are cringeworthy at best and the romance is handled hastily and poorly. Not just Joey's and Rachel's, mind you, all the romance but especially Joey's and Rachel's. I know they tried justifying Joey/Rachel by saying that sometimes the people who are not meant to be together fall for each other anyway but still that romance came out of nowhere, the attempts to develop it were basically thrown into your face throughout the entire season and this is where all of this shoehorning culminated.
  • Julia 1984: The angst over Monica and Chandler needing to use a sperm donor in "TOW the Donor." Okay, so Monica can't bear the thought of another woman carrying her child, so surrogacy is off the table - fair enough. That's perfectly understandable and believable. But the show then acts as if their thus ONLY option for having biological children us artificial insemination with a sperm donor and... it's not! Chandler's problem is low sperm motility, so if Monica is able to carry a child, there is no reason why they can't imseminate her with Chandler's sperm; if she's not, then a donor wouldn't help anything! This is the most fake, most illogical conflict they could write for this scenario. That is NOT the only option, its not even a necessary option at all, and the characters and writers acting like it is shatters all willing suspension of disbelief. The worst part is how unnecessary it was! IVF treatment is extremely expensive, so they could have just made the chief obstacle financial. It also doesn't always work, so they could have just had that happen... Wait, why does this sound so familiar? Right, because it was ALL discussed back when Phoebe served as a surrogate for her sister-in-law! But for Monica and Chandler, the writers choose to ignore all that and make up a conflict that makes no sense in context! Seasons 9 and 10 had plenty of plot points that were cringe-worthily bad, but none of them strike me as lazy and as stupid as this does.
  • Bolt_DMC: The series had its ups and downs (mostly ups), but the nadir for me was "TOW Ross and Rachel Take a Break." There's very little humor in the episode, not even Black Comedy. It's primarily an ugly breakup episode that's painful to watch, with both characters (Ross especially) acting like shrieking Jerkass creeps. Once was enough.

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