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If you think that every Monster of the Week the Winchester brothers had faced isn’t scary enough, then this following page will prove you wrong, because Surprisingly Realistic Outcome does not even begin to describe Supernatural’s many dethroning moments.

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  • Tyrathius: Supernatural episode 8x10 "Torn and Frayed". So we have this vampire, Benny, who's a pretty cool dude. Dean met him in Purgatory and they fought their way out together. He and Dean have saved each other's respective asses several times. Now that they're topside, Benny is surviving off of stolen blood transfusions and isn't hurting anyone. But for some never-explained reason, Dean's brother Sam hates Benny and decides Dean has to choose between them. So who does Dean choose, the loyal ally who's had his back for the past year, or the controlling brother who spent the first half of the season bitching about how much better his life was before Dean had the nerve to not be dead after all and doesn't want him to have any friends? Sam, of course, for no other reason than Status Quo Is God. Sam's been a Jerkass pretty much all season, but this was the point that just wrecked the show for me.
    • Andariel: My issue with, well, anything involving Benny and Sam, comes from the fact that Dean never attempts to explain why he trusts Benny. How hard is it to say "He saved Cas and I a bunch of times in Purgatory"? But no, let's just have more pointless drama!
  • RAZ: I'd originally gone with the 9th Season Premiere as my moment, but "Dog Dean Afternoon" takes all the problems I had with that and makes them seem minor qualms in comparison. The plot is beyond silly as is: the only suspect the brothers have in a series of supernatural killings is a dog, so they that concoct a spell that allows Dean to talk with all animals, but it has the side effect of giving him the personality traits of a dog as well. At one point in the episode, thanks to obtaining said characteristics, Dean begins sexually oggling a poodle. Yes, you read that right: Supernatural just had an implied bestiality gag. I've really, really tried to stick with this show through thick and thin, but after something that depraved I think I'll be quitting things for good before I discover how much lower it can sink.
  • SAMUSFORCE: The episode "Purge" really got on my last nerve. I was sort of ok with Sam's suicidal tendencies. He has had been through a lot and is probably not thinking straight. PTSD and all that. I could even be ok with him saying "we shouldn't be brothers, let's just be partners instead." He is probably trying to separate himself from Dean and this will all go back into the status Quo by the end when Sam gets a chance to finally get a backbone. What finally gets me, is when he said "I wouldn't do the same thing in your position". Wow, just, wow. I... I have never seen a reason more to get mad at a guy in my life. So basically, Sam, who we have seen for the past 8 seasons show how much he loved his brother and would stand by him, just basically said "If you were in pain and suffering, yeah I would kill you." Remember how in the Nostalgia Critic's review of Neverending story 2-the joke about Bastian not saving Atreyu if he was in that position? Yeah, only here it isn't funny. Sam just basically told his brother that he would take the low row. I do hope the intention was not for us to side with Sam, because I don't side with murderers. This is just a difamation of character, I wonder what they were going for with this? Did they want us to be reminded why Dean is the man of the house, or why Dean is a main character and Sam isn't? I would have loved it if Dean had yelled at the end, "Well, thanks for being there for me bro! Glad to know that I can count on you when I am about to die!" Thanks Sam, you just made me hate you.
  • Fan 01: The ending to the 5x19 episode "Hammer of the Gods" really bugged me. The brother saved Kali because Gabriel asked them too and they do even though she was trying to kill them, had killed mortals in the hotel and eaten them with the other gods. The brothers should have just left her there to be killed by Lucifer but for some reason they take her. We never see her after they shove her into their car so they could have killed her off screen but that was never said one way or another. Kali was just never seen again.
    • These Days, Those Days: Gabriel himself is just as guilty of killing mortals, in his role as the Trickster. The brothers spare him because he is working against Lucifer. And Kali was also working against Lucifer—that was the whole point of the gods' convening their meeting. So it could be that Gabriel's plan was for an alliance between himself, the Winchesters, and Kali, all of them working together, but that could only have happened if Gabriel had survived the battle with Lucifer. Since Gabriel wasn't around, Kali went her separate ways (or maybe, as you say, the Winchesters did kill her).
  • Sarantha: The episode Survival Of The Fittest just about did it for me and Supernatural. I still watch out of hopes that it will get better, but killing off Dick Roman, arguably one of the best and most intelligent villains (and the only one to perma-kill a main cast member) to date, was just insulting. Sure, they had to go through a lot of crap to get the weapon to kill him and it resulted in them going to Purgatory (most awful flashbacks ever), but killing Roman reduced the supposedly super-powerful Levithans to floundering mooks waiting to be incapacitated by Crowley's demon army. Roman wasn't the only intelligent Leviathan. Sure, he was their leader, but I'm sure there are Leviathans just as intelligent and powerful as we saw with Dr. Gaines and Edgar. Edgar, surely, would be a contender for a new leader. But no. Killing Dick just ruins the Leviathans and turns them into mentally challenged idiots never to be heard from again. Not to mention the tons and tons of jokes about Dick's name. We get it, we really do. This isn't a show for pre-pubescent boys. Most of the fans are adult women. I loved Dick Roman and thinks he should have been a threat for at least one more season instead of just unceremoniously being killed by Dean.
  • Pegase: I could get past the fact that Supernatural just wasn't as entertaining after the fifth season, but a key aspect of the finale of season 8, the episode "Sacrifice" really killed the show for me. Specifically the fact that Dean rushes in and tells Sam that he can't go through with sealing up Hell because he means too much to Dean. I was so, so, very pissed. The primary reason is that it makes no sense for the characters, particularly with all the character development they've been going through. This is a chance to seal off the realm of the creatures that murdered their mother, their father (in a roundabout way), the people of the Roadhouse, Agent Henrickson, and countless others. This was the chance to make a huge difference and save more people's lives than piecemeal hunting trips ever could. Besides, they've both already died, more than once actually, and each hung out in hell no less. They've even taken turns dying at this point so each of them has had to live and work through the grief of losing their brother. While all of this is really Break the Cutie of epic proportions, what it all adds up to is that they've long since had to make peace with the fact that death is a part of life. Their whole raison d'etre throughout this show, despite the constant trauma, has been to protect people so others won't have to suffer the way they did after their mother died. They have achieved a kind of maturity that comes from suffering and making peace with their role in the world. Being able to avenge the deaths of so many and prevent the deaths of so many more is the culmination of all of their hard work in this role, even though it comes with a great sacrifice. Then it all goes out the window for the sake of bromance. So what the hell was the point of the show?
  • Riley1s Cool: So, I've started, after advice, watching a little show called Supernatural. You may have heard of it? Anyways, my moment came in season 1 episode "Skin", in which a shapeshifter takes the form of Dean. Now, Dean is played by Jensen Ackles, a very attractive actor. However, the brutality of the episode was enough to bug me, especially since I usually like the "dark self" characters. But the shapeshifter ties up and violently mutilates women, and blames it all on the fact he's some kind of genetic anomaly and no woman would ever want to be with him. Very quickly, we see why. He proceeds to shed his form. See, he takes his shirt off, which I, at first, appreciated... but then I remembered the constant skin they had found from him in the episode. That's right. He rips his own skin off, with complimentary close-ups of a removed ear, and him removing his back like plastic wrap. This was so absolutely gross and unnecessary that even though I'm still watching the show, I know I won't be pretty soon if they keep up the Squick factor like this.
  • Miniatures: Supernatural likes to get silly sometimes, and as long as the threat feels real and the bits are fun, it works. But 12x05, "The One You've Been Waiting For", felt like a fever dream joke, and not in a good way. For context, the episode is a follow-up to "Everybody Hates Hitler" from season 8, a widely beloved episode that introduced clever twists on Jewish lore and a fan-favourite minor character (Aaron Bass). TPTB hyped Aaron's return in 12x05 like crazy... only to have him show up for a 10-second cameo, mostly over the phone with the Winchesters. The rest of the episode is dedicated to Nazi necromancers trying to raise Hitler from the dead. Yes, actually. While the premise might've been okay in different hands, the final product is insultingly cartoonish, with the Nazis sporting goofy German accents more in keeping with "Der Führer's Face" than an episode of Supernatural. When Hitler shows up (and oh, you'd best believe Hitler shows up), he prances around like the manic lovechild of Daffy Duck and the lead in "Springtime for Hitler" until Dean finally kills him. With a one-liner. Way to turn one of history's greatest villains into a wacky monster-of-the-week, guys! This wasn't just the episode that made me stop caring about the show, it was the episode that made me realize that the show no longer cares about itself.
  • Whoa 15: The episode "Red Meat" was the last straw for me as a fan of Supernatural. By now the boys are just Gary Sues and no one believes that they're in any danger of dying. So when Sam "died" I was like he'll be back by the end of the sentence or in the next few episodes. He was back in 5 minutes and even took down two uninjured werewolves on his way out. Then there was the whole "Dean tries to save Sam" thing.
  • Peeve: The killing of Death. As much as I still love the show, this moment encompasses everything that's bad with the series. Dean is asked by Death to kill Sam in exchange for a deal, but is then handed the one thing that can kill Death to do it even though literally any other weapon in creation would've done it just as well. Then Dean changes his mind, which is fine, but rather than do the rational thing and just call off the deal since Death would likely just be a bit annoyed and leave, he stabs Death and kills it. Dean got a plot device that he didn't really need for a reason that made no sense, then used it with an irrational motive to do something that further makes no sense and kills off the arguably most beloved character in the series and rolls back years of character development, just because the writers wanted it done. It's the epitome of everything that the writers do wrong.
  • batmany: Originally, I thought the 12th season finale was the worst. But, boy oh boy, did the Season 13 finale come along and take that title of DMOS for the series! Why? Because once again the writers have no clue what to do with Lucifer. I was really hoping this season would be a redemption arc for him since his primary goal was to find Jack and try to start anew. Heck, the finale seemed to be going this way with Luci suggesting he and Jack go on a father/son trip across the universe. But, no, then they had to have Lucifer turn into a one-note villain again. How? Well Jack finds out that Luci killed some girl we barely knew and freaks out over it which causes Lucifer to, for no reason other than "the writers can't allow the devil to develop as a character!", capture Jack and use his essence to become superpowered. Oh, but it gets even stupider. Then Lucifer forces Jack and Sam to fight ot the death to teach them how much family sucks only for AU Michael (now inhabiting Dean's body) to show up, fight Lucifer, and kill him in the most anti-climatic way possible. How bad was it? Lucifer was stabbed in the side by the archangel blade and falls over. That's it. That's how they kill Lucifer. We don't get any tragic goodbyes, no regrets for their action, nothing. Also, Jack, uh, your own father just died. How about showing a bit of remorse? Weren't you the one who was supposed to love and protect anyone? Hey, writers of SPN? I have a crazy idea? Maybe have Lucifer grow and develop as a character? Maybe have him realize that all he needs is love and understanding? That he doesn't need to resort to one-note villain status for no reason whatsoever? We could've had a beautiful bittersweet ending with Lucifer and Jack sharing some father/son time together. Instead, we get the most disappointing death in the entire franchise. Lucifer deserves better. The fans deserve better. The show deserves better than this mess of a finale.
  • Clato Lawa: It feels weird to write one of these about an episode I loved about 95% of, but "Mystery Spot" really left me in a sour mood, all thanks to one line from Dean: "Look, I’m just saying that it’s crazy, you know, I mean, even for us crazy. Dingo-ate-my-baby crazy." Basically, the Azaria Chamberlain case is a bit of a Berserk Button for me at the best of times, especially when it's brought up with no acknowledgement of the fact that Lindy was falsely convicted, before being released and acquitted on new evidence. The fact that over twenty years later writers still consider it okay to use the tragedy as a punchline like this - especially in a context that seems to be asserting that Lindy herself was crazy - is pretty disgraceful.
  • Saberwulf 2018: It pains me to do this, it really does. But I was left speechless after the Grand Finale. After 15 seasons of demon slaying and world saving, and Sam and Dean having an epic no-holds-barred showdown with God Himself, ending with robbing God of His powers, all we get is... Dean dying from a freaking screw and Sam dying of old age, just to have them reunited in Heaven. Dropped a Bridge on Him doesn't even begin to cover it. I'm not sure if the ending was like this before the COVID-19 Pandemic took over, but honestly, that felt like a pretty bad way to go out. It's a shame since I thought the previous episode was really good, but this just felt so anti-climactic, even with the emotional acting from both Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles. In a nutshell, this was literally the Grand Finale of Arrow all over again, only worse. And don't even get me started on the Dark Reprise of "Carry On Wayward Son".

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