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In this case, everything is exactly what it seems. Not even Wizards of Waverly Place is immune to having bad moments.

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  • Midna: In one episode of Wizards of Waverly Place, the Russos and Harper collaborate to prevent his then-girlfriend Juliet from being dragged off to Monster Jail, which they do by setting up a group of decoy monsters to be captured in her place. Towards the end of the episode, Justin cheerily reports that the decoys were sent to said jail and that Juliet is safe. Everything sounds peachy, right? Well, one of the monsters that was hauled off to rot in a prison cell was Frankengirl, who is not only clearly sentient but was created by Justin himself in an earlier episode and sees him as a father. In other words, Justin was present to witness his own daughter be dragged off to be imprisoned in another dimension for possibly an eternity, and he didn't give two craps. Sure it kept your girlfriend from suffering the same fate, but come on, Justin.
    • Too Bad For U: The episode when Stevie was revealed to be evil, and ultimately got defeated by Alex freezing her and Max accidentally knocking her over and shattering her to pieces, thus most likely killing her. The fact that Stevie turned out to be "evil" was... alright I guess, and sure, freezing someone is a kinda cool and unusual way of beating them, but did they really have to kill her off? The thing that bothers me the most, however, is that no-one even cared that Stevie just died! That was horrible, but the worst still must've been when Max and Justin started to draw things on the face of an unconscious guy who was covered in Stevie's pieces. Said guy was Stevie's brother! Okay, they might've been at odds with each other, but still! To wake up and find out that, not only is your only sister dead, but you're lying amidst her frozen parts! And your face has been drawn on as well!
      • Animeking 1108: What annoyed me was the fact that her "evil" plan was to have all Wizards be allowed to use magic and abolish the Competition. And that's a bad thing, because...?
      • legomaniac90: Not only that, the whole Competition setup reeks of Unfortunate Implications already. The fact that we're supposed to root for the person who wishes to keep the status quo over the person who wants to make a genuine reform simply adds more Unfortunate Implications to boot ("Kids, if someone wants to change a corrupt system, they're evil and should be stopped!").
      • Manwiththeplan: That episode was just filled with ungodly bad writing. It got what was right and wrong entirely mixed up! Stevie was supposedly wrong and "evil" for daring to rise up against the unfair Wizard Competition (along with others she'd recruited who felt the same way) so that all wizards can keep their magic powers and there'd be less broken wizard families like hers or the Russos around. Alex was supposedly "doing the right thing" in using Stevie and pretending to still be her friend just so she can freeze her and transfer her powers back to her brother. And Justin was supposedly right in hamfistedly declaring that "Stevie is evil and is trying to overtake the entire wizard world" even though she never talked about doing anything of the sort, unless the wizard world is really shallow enough to be kept standing by one stupid competition and it's stupid rules. And Max, who actually wanted to take over the wizard world to be king and is the one who kills Stevie in the end, gets no punishment or acknowledgement of what he's done wrong. And no one cares that Stevie's dead; Alex even makes a joke out of it after Stevie shatters on her unconscious brother! And before that, Alex flat out states that she thinks "people outside the Russos are better." Well, YEAH; this episode proves that in so many ways! This is a Dysfunctional Family of sadists! If the series had started it's downhill spiral at the start of the third season, this episode is definitely what killed it.
      • Maths Angelic Version: I was never a big fan of the show in the first place, but the moment the show decided to demonize the attempted revolution for no good reason is my DMoS too, and what cemented the show as unwatchable for me. The main characters directly contribute to the destruction of countless families, have an extremely flimsy justification for itnote , get away with it and are somehow portrayed as in the right! I mean, if it turned out that the main characters knew that the competition was something awful, but clearly the lesser of two (or more) evils, that would be more acceptablenote . Of course, there's nothing like this, not even from Word of God! Apparently, keeping the competition around to create drama later on is more important than not making the main characters completely unlikable. They never were particularly good people (Alex is too reckless and Justin is a jerk), but this is crossing the Moral Event Horizon. The later drama doesn't even work because I won't care who wins the stupid competition - by defending it, they've shown that they're all too horrible to deserve it. I honestly wanted them to die in a freak accident during their competition. The most frustrating part? The government is awful, and they never get their comeuppance. Instead of this mess of a storyline, the writers could have used the revolution attempt in the series finale. It'd be great! The main characters finally show their heroic side and stand up to their terrible rulers! Can they come out victorious and put an end to the horrible competitions, or will they fail and face Disproportionate Retribution?
    • A Black Raptor: Originally, for me it was the ending of "Wizards Vs Werewolves". However, the series finale is now even worse and essentially replaced the previous moment. Basically, its the same thing: It was a massive copout that bordered on Deus ex Machina: Justin wins the wizard competition and earns the right to become a full wizard. But, he interrupts the awarding of it by declaring he doesn't deserve it, because Alex stopped and came back to help him when he got stuck on a bush and helped him get out. So, he declares that she deserves it, but not him. But, so he'll have a happy ending, Professor Crumps announces he's retiring and appoints Justin his replacement, so that he can become a full wizard instead. Ok, this infuriates me. 1) Since when did Justin ever think Alex deserves the right to be a full wizard? He's made it clear before he doesn't think she deserves magic because she always abuses it. Why? Because she totally does! Alex is always being reckless and causing trouble with magic, to the point she comes off as a Designated Hero. But, because she saved him, he decides to change his opinion? Didn't he get really mad when others ignored all the bad she did to award her for saving the world once? 2) If they wanted to have Justin give up the power, why not just show the damn scene first instead of flashing back to it? Did they want to make it a plot twist? Well, too bad, they failed! Why didn't they just make it clear before what happened, or better yet, just let her win and give Justin another reason to be awarded the power by Crumps. 3) Why did she even have to win in the first place? Like I said, Alex is constantly abusing magic and causes all the trouble she gets into. Justin isn't always that much better, but he's usually only such because Alex does something to set him off. Why not just let Justin win? Oh, because of her and Mason, the boyfriend she would have to break up with. But, he's an immortal werewolf who will apparently never grow up, Twilight Vampire style. She's going to get older, he's not, so eventually they'll have to break up. 4) The Crumps thing came completely out of nowhere. Why not announce at the beginning he was retiring, or a few episodes ago and build up to it? This is the problem with Deus ex Machina endings, they can easily be averted by hinting/foreshadowing/building up to it. All in all, the ending was just lazily written.
      • GreeneMachine92: Adding to that, this troper found it extremely irritating that prior to the finale there was an online competition to determine who would win the family wizard title in the finale. This was obviously a Throwthe Dog A Bone for the fans if they wanted Justin or Max (the episode suggests Justin won this competition) to win, but that's the problem. Why have your Designated Hero be the winner rather than a character your audience thinks is more deserving? This is especially true if your writing isn't set to teach a lesson about competition.
      • Ant-Man: This troper's problem was that the finale showed what a selfish, sociopathic bastard Justin truly is. When Alex convinced them to leave the competition to save Harper and Zeke, they run out of time and get disqualified. From the very start, Justin is in total protest, and this only gets worse after. Apparently he was so desperate to beat his siblings and win that he'd rather just let his friends die?
  • SpaceProtagonist: Okay, my turn. My Dethroning Moment for Wo WP is in Alex's Logo. Overall the entire episode was a huge disappointment, but I'll tell you my least favorite part. After Alex got to be student body president, which she won fair and square, Justin thought Alex used magic to win the award, just because he couldn't stand to lose against his sister. Then he put a truth-telling spell on her to confirm. It's not always about you, Justin! To no surprise, it turns out Alex won the award fair and square, and when Justin finds out he had to host Alex's award at school, he's purposely left the truth spell on her, so she would reveal everyone's darkest sercets and turn everyone against her. What really sells it out, is that Justin sadistically smiled at her, saying they hated her. What the f*ck?! The episode was a major out-of-character moment for Justin and it just goes to show how he's no better than his own sister. I mean really! I expect this kind of behavior from Alex, not Justin! Flanderization doesn't even begin to describe this. Disney has permanently tarnished Justin's image. Oh, did I mention he gets away with it all? We never found out if Alex's friends forgave her (she can't tell them she's under spell, because then she'd be exposing magic). That's 22 minutes I'll never get back.

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