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Daisy-May. I'll just wait until next week and submit her (assuming the gets approved) with the other Fallout stuff,

edited 10th Jun '18 12:38:48 PM by ACW

Yes to Daisy May and if all this talk of an FE for Nessiah really just is Alternative Character Interpretation built on an ambiguous backstory, add me to the yeses there too.

If it's ambiguous, then at the very least, there's a whole hell of a lot of pages that need to be cleaned up (not least of which is Hector's entry). I'm somewhat wary how SO many things could be wrong.

Well than make it 8 and 0 for nessiah. You were the only person who downvoted him.

BTW Hector needs a rewrite than as him turning nessiah evil is listed as His greatest crime and if thats not true than the entire entry becomes kinda supect.

Daisy-May.

So anyone got an image for the fallout page ? It could do with one.

edited 10th Jun '18 1:02:58 PM by miraculous

Daisy

I'm really just confused about the whole Nessiah thing. I just checked the Dept. Heaven wiki and it mentions his backstory as a pacifist who was tortured by Hector. I have absolutely 0 familiarity with the series so I don't know for sure what's true but this all seems really weird. Put me down as a permanent abstain. Daisy May.

Abstain Nessiah

edited 10th Jun '18 3:00:04 PM by Kjhorns

Yeah, I want someone else to weigh in on this.

I've held onto my abstention for no so that's cleared up. There's contradicting information everywhere... actually, I might like to see some sort of source cited or a direct quotation for the game for the defense. I'd trust that more.

Im honestly confused as to what's going on with Nessiah as well.

to Daisy-May.

Daisy May. Which is uncomfortable because it comes close to saying the name of one of my deceased family dogs.

For Super Buu. Are these accurate?

• Even Evil Has Loved Ones: Super Buu still loves Hercule and Bee as friends. He spares the two after his creation in favor of seeking other fighters to go up against. And, while using an attack designed to wipe out everyone on Earth in two minutes, multiple shots stray towards the two, but always stray off course at the last second as if he physically can't bring himself to hurt them.
• Even Evil Has Standards: When Vegita threatens to rip Fat Buu out of his body, Super Buu is terrified and begs him not to. Whilst primarily terrified of losing himself as a result, he also uses phrases like "that's the last thing you should do!", implying he's also genuinely scared of what Kid Buu will do without Fat Buu's moderating influence.

The first seems like he LITERALLY can't; the second seems more like Pragmatic Villainy.

Daisy May

Cut both

With the first one it was still early into his creation and hence he still had tge influence of Good Buu (Who prevented him from hurting them) , hence why he wouldnt hurt them. Later he evolves into his own thing and genuinely hates them even mocks To Hercules' face that he killed his daughter.

The other is him doing that cause you know he'll cease to exist, why would that be mitigating.

edited 10th Jun '18 2:29:13 PM by miraculous

Besides, the english dub often adds in sentences that aren't there in that form in the original

Going back to an abstain on Nessiah and echoing Scraggle there's going to need to be some adequate research presentation here before I'm trusting anything said there.

Same, switching to abstain on Nessiah.

Honestly? At this point I'm gonna give a to Nessiah. It seems like Hector is more heinous in that he made Messiah who he became.

Hmmm...Ok, that's weird. Maybe is a case of Really Iffy translations practically making Nessiah different characters?

I'll have to ask Dood about that...or play the game myself. Whatever works more

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edited 10th Jun '18 3:57:21 PM by ACW

I agree the Even Evil Has Standards in regards to Super Buu is definitely misuse. It's clear he's scared of a Loss of Identity, not Kid Buu's appetite for destruction (isn't Super Buu technically an Omnicidal Maniac himself?). It does seem like he can't bring himself to kill Hercule and Bee though. I also agree that Super Buu trying to destroy reality with his dimensional scream (which he did in both animes) to spite Vegito is notably heinous (only Merged Zamasu has done destruction on that scale).

Also what's the verdict on Shiki the Golden Lion (One Piece)? I remember us talking about him and him getting dropped without a consensus. I know he apparently has some respect for Roger (presumably as a Worthy Opponent) but I don't feel that's mitigating (especially as he planned to ravage the East Blue/Roger's home). His plan would've caused more casualties than Doflamingo's "Bird Cage" (which would've destroyed an entire country if Luffy hadn't stopped him). Despite his hammy Jamaican accent in the dub (which admittedly can sound a little silly at times) and occasional bouts of silliness like that dance scene , he's portrayed seriously enough and is very ruthless. In the Strong World movie, he only mentions Roger upon being defeated and he may even be interpreted as attacking the East Blue out of spite (it's at least a possibility).

I...THINK Shiki was voted down? The discussion may have just petered out.

Can we change the Big Eater in Super Buu's entry to To Serve Man? I think a trope about devouring sentient beings makes more sense than an—often comedic—one about someone who eats a lot.

Shiki was fully discussed and it was decided that he displayed a level of genuine respect for Roger to a mitigating point.

edited 10th Jun '18 3:48:13 PM by 43110