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YMMV: Warhammer 40,000
  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Every organization's actions and motivations can be "read" in several different ways. One could easily fill an entire page with it. Some short examples:
    • The Imperium. Vast, monolithic entity of xenophobic fundamentalists and one of the most horrific examples of Humans Are Bastards in fiction, or sympathetic anti-heroes forced to resort to extreme measures and fight bitterly for survival in an utterly nightmarish Crapsack World?
    • The Tau. Sinister fundamentalist collectivists with no place for individuality, or idealistic and good-hearted folk heroically seeking a prosperous future for the universe? Alternatively, a hopelessly naive species doomed to sink in the mire of GRIMDARK reality, or bearers of the hopeful torch the universe needs to rekindle itself?
    • The Craftworld Eldar: Utterly amoral self-serving bastards, or tragic atoners who just want to save their dying people from extinction? Villains, or victims? Reluctant distant allies of humanity against the encroaching void, or among mankind's most insidious foes?
  • Americans Love Warhammer 40,000: The game is much more popular in the United States than in its native Britain, with most of the spin-off video games being developed by American and Canadian companies. Of course, the United States having a population five times larger than the United Kingdom (thus equaling a larger potential fanbase) might contribute to this. Another major factor is that in Britain it's generally considered a children's game for rich kids, while in the US it's associated with college students and other adults (i.e. people with their own money).
    • Americans Love The Tau: The Tau are one of the most commonly collected armies in the US, while they have middling popularity at best in Britain and Europe. It might have something to do with the sleek, Robotech-esque aesthetics of their technology, particularly their Humongous Mecha.
    • Germans Love 40k As Well: Next to Dungeons & Dragons - of course - Warhammer 40,000 ranks as one of the most popular Tabletop Games known in Germany. This may have to do with the considerably German middle ages-styled Imperium, the imagery and the tanks of the Astra Militarum.
  • Author's Saving Throw / Retcon: Kaldor Draigo's write-up in the Grey Knights codex described him as beating down Mortarion and carving Supreme Grand Master Geronitan's name into his heart. Fans were not impressed at the Mary Sue display. The audio drama Mortarion's Heart greatly expands on and provides context for how that happened.
  • Badass Decay:
    • The Emperor understandably underwent this after he went on life support. Compare how he looks before and after the Horus Heresy. Interestingly, though, it's implied he's still kicking the crap out of the Warp-forces from within their domain.
    • By 4th or 5th edition, some of the new codices are just merciless and humiliating for the Eldar.
    • The Necrons in general, and the Void Dragon in particular, have been steadily losing their mystery and power since being introduced, possibly due to their lack of a recent codex and their original overpowered status. Though in Sandy Mitchell's Ciaphas Cain(HERO OF THE IMPERIUM) books, the Necrons are still virtually unstoppable nightmares and the only thing that Cain absolutely will not fight unless there's no alternative.
      • Their fifth edition codex turned them into bitter individuals who want to become flesh again and merely want to reconquer their empire when they're not busy infighting, instead of unstoppable Omnicidal Maniacs who will stop at NOTHING for destroying every living things in the galaxy. It is also emphasized a lot more than before that they suffered many losses during their long sleep. Whether or not this new direction was a good thing is a huge Base Breaker.
      • Mis-blamed: It should be noted that only half of the "newCrons" want to become flesh again. The other half are split between malfunctioning Necrons who forgot they were ever robotized — with hilarious results — and the classic omnicidal metal monsters who quite enjoy their mechanical forms. The Misblaming is understandable, though, because the most influential Necron Overlord, "The Silent King", is in the want-to-become-flesh-again category
    • The Tyranids' 6th Edition codex has removed a good number of their deployment options and a good number of their most powerful units, including the Doom of Malan'tai (although to be fair, Malan'tai in a spore pod was fairly cheesy). They've been significantly nerfed, and were a low tier army before the update, knocking them down to bottom tier along with the Sisters of Battle. So much for the "Great Devourer".
  • Base Breaker:
    • Either Squats were incredibly stupid and Games Workshop did the right thing by retconning them away, or they were incredibly awesome and should continue to be supported. There are no in-betweens.
    • Rogue Trader (the original, not the tabletop RPG) was either stupid and GW's current direction is magnificent or it was completely crazy awesome and should be brought back.
    • The Ultramarines, and the Tau due to their alleged "Mary Sue" status.
    • The Necrons' new direction after their 5th Edition 'dex was hugely controversial. Prior to 5th Edition, the Necrons were a race of soulless automatons, deceived and enslaved by the C'tan, a race of ancient star gods who hungered for souls. The new Necrons are The Remnant of an ancient Empire, who shattered the C'tan after the C'tan deceived them and who now form their own royal courts and their own factions. Fans of the old fluff claim that the "Newcrons" have destroyed the old, Cthulhu-style mystique. Fans of the "Newcrons" argue that the old Necrons were excessively characterless and that the updated fluff makes the race more interesting but keeps them as terrifying abominations.
    • While one of the most well known factions in the setting, the Eldar are this to some circles of the fanbase due their sheer arrogance, being almost exactly like the Imperium and yet still look down everyone else.
    • The Space Wolves. Some love them for being drunken, wild-partying anti-authority space vikings. Some hate them for that exact same reason. Their sheer diversity of character in the fluff has also garnered criticism. The fluff has portrayed them with themes as varying as grim and brooding executioners, party bros, honorable marines out for the little guy, psycho-indoctrinated super soldiers, military geniuses, combat pranksters, vicious werewolf berserkers, and disciplined combined-arms soldiers. A lot of the hate also comes from people who dislike the hypocrisy and brutality with which they handled the Thousand Sons at Prospero, especially because they also use psykers in the form of Rune Priest. Finally, it must be said, that a lot of the hate comes from their extremely powerful (When it came out) codex, that was essentially just Marines, only cheaper and better.
      • The Space Wolves are interesting in that even fans of the chapter have a Broken Base; which portrayal of the chapter is best? Some prefer the honorable bro-marines, some the grim berserkers of the 31st Millennium, some choose a depiction in between.
      • Even Space Wolf models are developing a Broken Base, as many people are wondering if the wolfy wolf wolves on everything (like this; a rocket sled pulled by giant wolves) is Crazy Awesome or just ridiculous.
    • The reception for the new Farsight Enclaves supplement has been very mixed. Some feel that the wonderful new insights into the once-mysterious renegade as a character and the introduction of the Eight outweigh any deficiencies, while others worry it shifts the Ethereal caste a little too hard from "mysterious, but vaguely benign space Taoists" to "cackling mustache-twirling cartoon villains."
    • What is the better name? "The Imperial Guard", or "The Astra Militarum"?
  • Bellisario's Maxim: This setting runs on Rule of Cool.
  • Complacent Gaming Syndrome: Lots. The largest case is with armies, since players will typically go for whatever army is updated the most recently since as an edition goes on, the creators start figure on what makes an army effective under the current rules, so the more recently updated armies tend to be better than the ones released earlier. Also, the cost of models means that Space Marines get the most use this they're, relatively speaking, the least expensive to play. Games Workshop has noticed this focused very heavily on releasing more and more Space Marine armies.
  • Complete Monster: Warhammer 40,000 is a dark and brutal place to live. No side is truly in the right, with most not even remotely in the "good" territory of the Well-Intentioned Extremist. That said, there are a few villains that stand out in terms of evil:
    • Ezekyle Abaddon, known as The Despoiler, is the heir of the fallen Primarch Horus. Abaddon is consumed with hatred for all that lives, even his former master, and seeks nothing less than the extermination of all he can manage while uniting humanity under the dark banners of Chaos. As the only man with the support of all the Gods of Chaos, Abaddon has united the forces of Chaos under his banner no less than thirteen times in the Black Crusades. During these ventures, Abaddon storms the galaxy itself, burning and destroying all he can until the forces of the Imperium inevitably defeat him. Abaddon hardly minds as he is able to destroy and kill in great number, something he loves more than anything else. Willing to send countless numbers of his own to their doom and living only to destroy everything he can, Abaddon is the champion of Chaos and is one of the most evil and brutal beings in all of the dark world of Warhammer 40,000.
    • Fabius Bile is what you have when you cross a Mad Scientist with the dark powers of Chaos. Bile traverses the Galaxy more than any other member of the Traitor Legions for the purpose of experimenting whenever and wherever he can. On the world of Dimmamar, Bile changed the atomic composition of the air until the population was forced to ingest his transformative serums or slowly suffocate. He earned the name "Manflayer" in the Bray system for skinning those who opposed him to make a cloak of human skin, the survivors still alive to carry the garment behind him. Bile injects poisonous strands into every gene pool he can, with some experiments wiping out life in entire sectors. A sadist with a god complex and scientific curiosity, Bile is feared and hated by all who know his name and actions.
  • Crack Pairing: Nurgle and Isha. Interestingly, this is technically canon, though unreciprocated.
  • Crazy Awesome:
    • The Ork race. Practically everything that's ever been accomplished by Orks has happened merely because the things in question are Crazy Enough to Work. Possessing psychic powers that turn their asinine and downright insane thoughts into reality helps, too.
    • The Redeemer: an insane Redemptionist who travels the Ashen Waste fighting rat-worshipping mutants. He's like an evil Judge Dredd. And his head's on fire.
    • The Space Wolves chapter. Boisterous Bruisers who throw out the Codex Astartes and tell the High Lords of Terra to piss off, these people should have been declared traitors millennia ago, yet they get away with everything.
      • Although people seem to forget that the Codex wasn't mandatory, only the re-organisation of the Legions, which the Space Wolves did comply with, albeit reluctantly.
      • Although it recently turned out they had high hopes for their sessior chapters.
    • Whilst opinions of the Chapter as a whole and Guilliman in particular are mixed, most people agree that this image is definitely crazy awesome. He's punching a Marine's head off. In space. Without a helmet. Bad. Fething. Ass.
    • The Prioris variant of the Sisters of Battle's Exorcist armored fighting vehicle. It is, for all intents and purposes, a rocket artillery launcher shaped like a giant organ, with the organ's keyboard as the firing mechanism.
  • Creator's Pet:
    • The Ultramarines, the Necrons, and the Tau are each viewed as such by a significant number of fans, although who gets it the worst tends to shift over time.
    • More individually, Kaldor Draigo of the Grey Knights looks like he'll leave all other contenders in the dust now. Imagine every stupid Chuck Norris fact you could think of involving 40K— carving his name into a daemon prince's heart, roundhouse kicking Khorne's champions, burning down Nurgle's garden, pimping out Slannesh's finest daemonettes without the slightest temptation— and play them straight with this one guy.
    • Matt Ward really likes the Ultramarines and Grey Knights. So much that it seems to be hurting their fanbase.
      • Interestingly enough, judging by forums, nearly every Ultramarines player thinks that the Ultras should have a more clearly defined flaw (it varies between writer, some making them proud, some dogmatic, some arrogant, Ward doesn't give them anything), they just can't agree on what it should be. On 1d4chan, the stated reason so many people loved the Ultramarines was because they were The Mario, Jack of All Stats, that one beginner class that everyone played. And just making them ultra perfect just destroys that.
      • Currently GW has made it so the Ultramarines don't have a flaw on the chapter scale but of personnel, ex. Captain Cato Sicarius is reckless while Reclusiarch Ortan Cassius hatred of the Tyranids can blind him.
    • The main issue is that, while Tau get slight 'creators pet' in the fluff, their army is balanced on a good day and underpowered on a bad one. The Space Marines get massive creator's pet in their fluff, at least Marines are mechanically balanced. Grey Knights on the other hand are the single most broken army in the entirety of 40k, and that's not even going into the fluff.
      • It should be noted that there was a lot of debate on whether or not Grey Knights were as broken as often claimed when the codex dropped. The Space Wolves and Imperial Guard at the time were often argued to be the more "overpowered" codex, and with the drop of sixth edition, the Necrons (Which seemed tailor-made to be compatible with the new edition) became a strong candidate for the most broken army. So, in terms of mechanics, the Grey Knights were and still are more akin to a Base Breaker, though the fluff is more universally loathed.
    • The Space Marines as a whole are often considered to be creator's pets, especially given how many distinct Codexes they get ("Vanilla" Marines, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, etc etc) whilst some armies end up on the back burner for years, such as the Sisters of Battle (last Codex: 2003) and the Eldar (last Codex: 2006).
  • Creepy Awesome: A major draw of the franchise. Specific examples include the following:
    • Lucius the Eternal.
    • The Noise Marines, who embody The Power of Rock turned to Chaos! "the years of bloody warfare have honed their bodies into sensory extremes where nothing can stir their emotions other than the din of battle and screams of the dying".
    • The Necrons pre-6th Edition and/or the Necrons post-6th Edition. The base is divided on whether they were this before, after, or both.
  • Crosses the Line Twice:
    • The entire core of Da Orks' humor is their ridiculously, overwhelmingly violent nature.
    • Some may find the setting in general does this, due the over-the-top Darkness, Impossibly Cool Weapons and war.
  • Cult Classic: This game started up in 1987, and is now probably the subject for the majority of uses of Rule of Cool and Darker and Edgier on this wiki.
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: Almost all of the story beyond the actual tabletop sessions (since you model and customize your personal army, letting you make them exactly as dark or noble as you like) and the codex books (which are highlights of victories and propaganda). There are so many Shoot the Shaggy Dog stories, and unequivocal victories for any given side are happening at the same time as a dozen crushing defeats.
  • Draco in Leather Pants:
    • The Emperor tends to be painted by fans as the one purely good character in the whole setting. While he was probably better than the current management, he did have his fair share of atrocities under his belt.
    • Fan parodied with Khârn the Betrayer who is canonically a vicious, psychotic avatar of Khorne's wrath, famous for butchering two entire legions in a single night, one of them his own. Fanonically, he's a free-spirited goofball who has fun picking on Slaanesh worshipers and stealing the Nice Hat of any Commissar he meets, and who ultimately wants nothing more than to please his god.
      • Ironically, his canon personalty isn't too far off from this.
    • Speaking of Khârn's god, Khorne himself may rival the Emperor in terms of Draconess. According to Games Workshop, he is the god of bloodshed and hate, who cares not from where the blood flows, only that it flows, be it bystanders or his own worshipers. According to a good portion of the fanbase, Khorne is the god of Proud Warrior Race Guys and martial honor who wouldn't lay a hand on innocent civilians. This version is actually based on older editions, but the merciful aspect is clearly out of date as far as Games Workshop is concerned.
    • Imperial Guard Commissars get a surprising amount of this as well, due to the influences of Ciaphas Cain and Gaunt's Ghosts. Chances are pretty damn good that your average Commissar does not want to be buddy-buddy with the men.
    • Happens a lot with the Eldar and Tau, as well. Quite a few people view the Eldar a bit too sympathetically, and gloss over their numerous atrocities, not to mention that a good portion of the galaxy's woes can be blamed solely on them. As for the Tau, well, some people really do consider it a rather pleasant place to live, nevermind that it's got a very British Empire-esque policy on natives; if you're a human or Kroot, you won't be exterminated, and you won't exactly be a slave, but you'll still get quite a rough deal from people who look down on you.
  • Designated Hero: The Imperium as a whole. The Space Marines might be the noblest group in the series, but still believe Violence is the Only Option and embrace Fantastic Racism. The Sisters of Battle are fanatically devoted to the Emperor who fight with fundamentalist fury, but won't hesitate to kill civilians or Imperial Guards on suspicion of being tainted by Chaos. For every planetary defense action, the Imperial Guard are also used on one hundred or more xenocidal crusades or repressive campaigns to keep worlds from seceding. The Inquisition doesn't even bother trying.
  • Designated Villain:
    • Followers of Chaos can start as this. Many of the Chaos Space Marines fell not out of evil, but simply bad circumstances. Human followers who have fallen since then have arguably good reason, given that life in the Imperium is so bad joining cults is a legitimate alternative to alleviate their misery. All in all, mortal followers of Chaos aren't evil, they're just insane. Daemons, on the other hand...
    • The Imperium is very intolerant of "traitors" who have turned to the Tau's offer of egalitarianism, though readers might think differently. Despite the Tau being space-Trotskyists at best and Stalinist imperialists at worst (not to mention the sincerity of their offers of brotherhood), many consider them better than the "Catholic Space Nazis" of the Imperium.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • The Adeptus Mechanicus, to a certain degree among the fanbase.
    • The Imperial Fists (and related Space Marines chapters) qualify. They have a much larger fanbase than the limited amount of fluff and overly generic nature should indicate. If they win, it is usually as part of a battle force consisting of multiple Space Marine chapters. If they are by themselves, they tend to lose more often that not. The defining characteristics are an increased emphasis on will power, pain being educational, and discipline. These are all defining characteristics of every single Space Marine anyways. They aren't one of the "never had anyone fall to Chaos" chapters, so they clearly do not have a will-power advantage in actual practice. Space Marines are already some of the most highly disciplined troops in the setting. Pain being educational is kind of meh when you consider most Space Marine candidates die during training. They don't lose enough to be The Woobie, they don't win enough to be Badass, and they are defined by being uniquely more generic than most Space Marine chapters. On the other hand they are excellent fighters of siege warfare, they were the only legion who were allowed to recruit from Terra, and they were one of the most important legions to the defense of Terra from Horus. Despite being Out of Focus they are the second most important chapter in the entire Imperium.
    • Thanks to some positive portrayals in various novels, and buffs to make them more viable on tabletop, the Imperial Guard have lately been enjoying extreme popularity. We can't imagine why.
      • Amongst the Imperial Guard, the Commissars, despite them in the game just being a unit that gives a small buff to statline and leadership, has a huge following to the point where it's almost mandatory for Imperial Guard novels to include at least one.
    • Khârn the Betrayer is the most popular named Chaos Space Marine character due to his unfailing ability to kill everything around him, his role as the protagonist of the excellent short story The Wrath of Khârn, and his starring in a series of comedic fanfics on 4chan that portray him as a pretty nice guy despite the Ax-Crazy. Thanks to his popularity, Khârn is set to have a book detailing one of his adventures.
    • For the first time ever since Matt Ward's relentless shilling reduced them to Scrappy status, some Ultramarine characters are this. Specifically, these characters are found in the Horus Heresy novels such as the Tetrarchs, whose main quality seems to be comically over-sized shields and badassery.
    • The Iron Warriors, despite not being the most prominent of the Chaos Legions, have a following for being much less Stupid Evil than the rest.
    • The daemon prince Doombreed has a surprisingly following for a character that's only referenced in the background.
    • Nemesor Zandrekh, an old timey honorable general too riddled with robo-Alzheimer's to fully appreciate what's happened to him, Vargard Obyron, his eternally loyal and long-suffering bodyguard, and Trazyn the Infinite, or "Trollzyn" as the fandom likes to call him. Even though the Newcrons catch lots of flack from some quarters, their characters remains rather popular.
    • The Black Templars due who they prove to be badass even among Space Marines.
    • Tzeentch is probably the most popular of the Chaos Gods next to Khorne, despite receiving the least focus.
    • The Space Wolves standing against much of the Imperium's Kick the Dog against its own people helped earn them a sizeable following, prior to their 5th edition Codex where they were turned into a Tier-Induced Scrappy because of how they were in a number of ways a better version of the vanilla marine codex. The Salamanders as well, for similar reasons; although they're relatively small-time compared to the other chapters, they have a very large fandom because they're pretty much the only Space Marines who will go out of their way to help and protect regular people. Shooting civilians is something they... frown upon.
    • There's a lot of people in the community who would like to see a codex for the Rak'gol, a relatively minor xenos race. Think the Reavers, except they're cyborg scorpion creatures... and they're even worse.
    • Malal is surprisingly popular despite apparently not existing in the current setting due to Games Workshop losing the rights to him.
  • Evil Is Sexy:
    • One word: Slaanesh.
    • Two words: Dark Eldar. Especially the new Lelith model and artwork.
  • Fandom Rivalry:
  • Fan Nickname: Hundreds.
    • A popular nickname for the blue-armoured Ultramarines is "Smurfs", which logically leads to their Chapter Master being known as "Papa Smurf". By obvious extension the Ultramarine's Chief Librarian Varro Tigurius is "Brainy Smurf" and the Tyranid character "The Swarm Lord" is sometimes called "Gargamel". Roboute Guilleman is everyone's "Spiritual Liege", including yours. Also often referred to as Rowboat/Rawbutt Girlyman by people who are either annoyed with his frequent in-canon praise despite being dead, confused about how to pronounce his name, or both.
    • Thanks to Dawn of War: Soulstorm, "METAL BOXES"note  is now a common catch-all term for tanks. 'Spess Mehreens' and 'Emprah' are often spelt and spoken in line with their famously odd pronunciation in the same game.
    • Sisters of Battle are 'Bolter Bitches' or 'Nuns with Guns'.
    • The Imperium is 'Catholic Space Nazis'.
    • The Tau are often mockingly referred to as 'Weeaboo Space Communists'.
    • Failbaddon the Despoiler: thirteen attempts to bust out of the Eye Of Terror and destroy the Imperium, and despite being billed as the worst of their foes, every attempt has failed. Sometimes known as Failbaddon the Armless, after his tabletop model's reputation for having its arms break off all the time, or "the incompetent fuckwit", for his incompetent fuckwittery.
    • Shooting phase for the Guard is unofficially called 'the laser light show'. Similarly, lasguns are called flashlights or laser sights, while flak armour is either cardboard or T-shirts. note 
    • "Pansy Space Elves" and "Scary Space Elves" are common nicknames for the Craftworld and Dark Eldar, respectively; and used as often by Eldar players themselves as by players of other races.
    • Ork terminology is also popular, given their rather laconic approach to vocabulary: a melee-oriented army is choppy, a ranged army is shooty (or has lotsa dakka), enemies referred to as spikeboyz, panzees, 'umiez, greyskins, etc.
  • Fanon:
  • Fashion-Victim Villain:
    • The Emperors' Children wear a garish mix of pink, black and purple.
    • Most pictures of the Noise Marines, including Dawn of War, depict them in black, despite canon descriptions that they wear the brightest, most clashing colours. (Presumably, it's down to gamers' fears of contracting the gay.)
  • Freud Was Right: And the Dark Eldar would make him wish he wasn't.
  • Game Breaker: See here.
  • Gateway Series: For many people, this introduced them to tabletop wargames.
  • Genius Bonus: There's little references tucked away everywhere, ranging from sci-fi to military history to history in general to Scandinavian and Ancient Babylonian myth.
    • Nergal/Nurgle.
    • One of the first worlds in the path of the first Tyranid Hive Fleet was named "Prandium", which is Latin for "lunch."
    • One of the symbols of the Imperium is a double-headed eagle. In and of itself, this is not surprising, as some of the most powerful and influential empires on Earth (the Byzantines, the Russians, the Holy Roman Empire) have used the same symbol, and it would be just like the Imperium to adopt such a symbol of absolute autocracy. The real bonus comes into play if you consider the God-Emperor's origins; according to one sourcenote , he was born in Anatolia (modern Turkey), where double eagle symbolism has been particularly strong for thousands of years.
      • The Imperial Eagle in some depictions looks very like the Nazi variant of the Reichsadler.
    • In Western magical traditions, the number 3 has a great deal of occult/magical potency. Tzeentch's sacred number is 9, being three squared (three times three, or three plus three plus three) and the only number more inherently powerful than three. Perfect symbology for a god of magic.
  • Generic Doomsday Villain: The Tyranids are the original for this, with no established backstory, and unlikely to get one since they've been around since the early days and are a Horde of Alien Locusts that devours everything they see with no apparent goal beyond that. GW then decided to have another with Necrons, who while having a scary backstory, were ultimately just another faction bent on killing everything in a game that already had one, led by Jerkass Gods that were kind of a rehash of the Chaos Gods as far as personalities went. Since their retcon they've become arguably more interesting (see above), but the Tyranids are unlikely to ever change.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • During the late 90s/early 2000s, a series of fluff articles about the various Space Marine chapters and Traitor legions was run in White Dwarf magazine. The Word Bearers article claimed it was unique amonst the Traitor Legions in that its Chaplains were also corrupted, instead of being slain for their defiance in the face of heresy. Come the Horus Heresy novels, and it turns out that the Word Bearers have "Traitor Chaplains" because they were the only Legion to have Chaplains prior to the Heresy — and these Chaplains were actually instrumental in corrupting them in the first place.
    • Furthermore, Lorgar's goals prior to turning to Chaos was to officially promote the Emperor's divinity and turn the Imperium into a theocracy united under the God Emperor, even going so far as to try and encourage his fellow Legions to adopt Chaplains. In other words, Lorgar has actually won, despite his descent to Chaos.
    • Artwork of Cat Girls is nothing new, even when it's 40k related. Come 6th edition and the rule book actually mentions entire regiments made out of cat people.
  • HSQ: Not just swords, chainswords! Not just Space Marines, ten-foot tall genetically-enhanced superhumans in huge Power Armor tearing up hordes of enemies, hard-dropping from orbit like meteorites! Not just a Red Shirt Army, but billions of troops throwing themselves into the maw of death FOR THE EMPEROR! Not just Mordor, but a twisted evil area of space hundreds of light years across! Not just the Inquisition of a repressive religious theocracy, but one that can destroy worlds for the taint of heresy! (And worse, it might be the most practical decision!) You must have thought of a few expletives when you saw the pages, at least.
  • Hype Aversion: With how enthusiastic the fanbase can be as well as how prone they are to infighting, attacking fans of other franchises, and assuming every Surreal Horror or Cosmic Horror must have been inspired by 40K, let's just say some people can be a little put off. (in other words, the same way it is in-universe)
  • Hype Backlash: It happens.
  • Idiot Plot: The sheer amount of Stupid Evil in the setting can lead to one feeling this.
  • Jerkass Woobie:
    • Poor, poor Eldar. Not only are you the whipping boys of the entire game, most of your race got Mind Raped by an Eldritch Abomination and if you're not careful enough, you'll get tortured and raped by Horny Devils for all of eternity. That sure justifies being Manipulative Bastards who would let billions of other races die horrible agonizing deaths to save a few of your own.
    • Bastards that they are, it's really easy to see why the Imperium acts the way it does.
    • The 5th Edition fluff makes the Necrons out to be this—on one hand, they're responsible for their own current, miserable state of being, and they're feared by all other races for a good reason. On the other, they still don't deserve being forced into it, and the majority of Tomb Worlds wish nothing more than to be left alone.
  • Magnificent Bastard:
    • The God-Emperor of Mankind.
    • The most effective Dark Eldar (those who aren't obnoxious Smug Snakes) fall into this category, especially Asdrubael Vect, who engineered a coup that elevated him from a slave to a gang leader to the High Lord of Commorragh.
    • Tzeentch is the god of Magnificent Bastards. On the mostly-mortal side of things, the Alpha Legion of Chaos Space Marines is composed of Magnificent Bastards.
    • The Laughing God of the Harlequins is the other "good" example (but still a total asshole, so not a Guile Hero).
    • The C'tan Star God known as the Deceiver would be one if he didn't make the Necrons into what they are today.
      • It is hard to qualify as a Magnificent Bastard when you were stupid enough to hand over the keys to your legion of undead killer robots to their leader, whom you betrayed but inexplicably allowed to remain sentient.
    • Szarekh, the Silent King of the Necrons. Sure, he was duped into trading away their souls... so he killed their Gods.
    • Trazyn the Infinite, to the extent that 1d4chan have added TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZYN! to their lexicon.
  • Mary Suetopia:
    • The Ultramarine domain of Ultramar: a functional, prosperous, stable realm in the otherwise decaying Imperium. It still isn't a very nice place to live, though, given that, as one of the hardest realms of the Imperium, every up-and-coming alien warlord, Chaos daemon prince, Tyranid Hive Fleet, or Tau Shas'O wants a go.
    • Subverted by the Tau Empire, whose propaganda tries to put out that they are this. And people still consider them to be a Mary Suetopia compared to the general grimdarkness of the setting.
  • Mary Tzu: Can often occur given how the attempts to make certain strategists look good.
    • Creeeeed!!!
    • Tzeentch, although it's justified since he is after all the god of scheming.
    • The Emperor and the Primarchs. Somewhat justified, as the Emperor had 40,000 years to refine military tactics, while the Primarchs were designed to be that.
    • Commander Shadowsun of the Tau Empire. Led a Tau armada against a Tyranid splinter fleet and wiped it out without losing a single ship. Made more impressive by the fact that she's a Fire caste commander, so she had no experience in space combat. Sweet Jesus.
    • Imhotek's profile lists him as a having an ability to predict a battle the descends into Gambit Roulette territory with how he's supposedly able to predict every single move, feint, counter feint, advance, and any other move an army either side can make with such an implausible ability that borders on omniscience.
  • Memetic Badass:
    • A wiki called 1d4chan (based off 4chan) has turned Eldrad Ulthran into a dick, er, prescient jackass, who will form complicated schemes just so a commissar's hat gets blown off and lands right on Eldrad's head, or a female warrior's breastplate gets knocked off during a battle. The narrator usually suffers as part of the scheme.
    • Khârn note .
    • CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD!
    • Creed's rule "Tactical Genius"note  has been inflated to the point that he can hide tanks behind lightposts or outhouses.
    • The Alpha Legion have become this since the Horus Heresy book Legion. Some fans now reckon everything was an Alpha Legion plot.
    • Sometimes, you really have to wonder if Kaldor Draigo is a Stealth Parody of this trope.
    • Leman Russ in some circles of the Internet. And considering some of the stuff he's done, you at times have to ponder how much of it is memetic.
    • In a similar vein to Eldrad above, Asdrubael Vect is one on 1d4chan. Seriously, just read his article.
    • Duke Sliscus is an in-universe example. He took three ships from a rival Archon just to show off, and then hilariously Curb Stomped said Archon's best forces when he tried to get the ships back. He also completely owned fellow Memetic Badass Lukas the Trickster (the guy who can punch out Emperor Titans) in a battle of wits. Because of this, he's regarded as an absolute legend in Commorragh.
    • Eversor Assassins scream "WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!" as they tear through their opponents like tissue paper.
  • Memetic Loser:
    • Abaddon the Despoiler/Failbaddon the Armless, who still failed to destroy the Imperium after thirteen attempts despite having entire legions at his commands and the favours of all four Chaos Gods.
    • The Imperial Guard are absolutely acknowledged as some seriously hardcore individuals by real life human standards, but in fanon, they just can't shake their reputation as the Redshirt Army who get horribly slaughtered against everything else in the galaxy. Some Imperial Guard fans themselves don't mind this view, as it props their army up as the plucky Determinator that never gives up in the face of overwhelming odds.
  • Memetic Molester:
    • Dark Eldar.
    • Anything associated with Slaanesh.
    • Callidus assaassins, due to their shapeshifting abilities, are used in some fanart to torment Farseer Macha in a number of different ways.
  • Memetic Psychopath: Khârn is an inversion, he is an Ax-Crazy lunatic that will attack anybody in canon, which is likely where the memes about him being a great guy came from.
  • Memetic Troll: Eldrad Ulthuan. Fanon} likes to have him exploit his ability to flawlessly predict the future to play stupid pranks on people and generally be a dick.
  • Misaimed Fandom: You'd have an easier time listing factions which don't have a Misaimed Fandom. And that's only because that list is empty.
    • It's not rare to hear players referring to this or that faction as the "good guys" (most often the Tau and Craftworld Eldar, but the Imperial Guard and even the Space Marines get it too)
    • That and there's the fact that in the early days the setting was a Black Comedy, and people failed to pick up on that.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • The Tau and Eldar are about the only ones who even realize there is one, the Eldar having found out about it the hard way, and they don't think it applies to anyone else.
      • It's not that other factions don't realize that the moral event horizon exists, it's that whenever it's on the verge of getting crossed, another surge of the Godzilla Threshold pushes it out another hundred parsecs. When you compare burning the surface of a planet to cinders with having that planet either get devoured by a Horde of Alien Locusts, corrupted and mutated beyond recognition by horrors from the nether reaches of your darkest fears, or even being scrubbed clean of all life (even down to bacteria) by zombie cyborgs, the foremost option is arguably the least horrible (if only because it doesn't seem to "feed" the threat that brought you to this point).
    • In the eyes of the Emperor, Horus crossed it when he flayed a loyal Adeptus Custodes alive with a look (being the Emperor's personal bodyguards and created with individualism rather than mass-production in mind, they are likely among the most powerful of the Space Marines in general) trying to protect the Emperor during the Siege of Terra. With this, the Emperor realized that Horus was beyond saving. In early fluff, Horus actually killed a random Imperial guardsman that stood up to him but had no chance of hurting him.
    • In Logan Grimnar's eyes, the Inquisition crossed it when they sent the regular Imperial Guardsmen who had fought for Armageddon to forced labor camps just for having seen Chaos. After that, Inquisitors have tried to keep their distance from the Space Wolves, mostly because they're worried the Wolves will kill them on sight.
  • More Popular Spin-off: Of Warhammer.
  • My Real Daddy:
    • Graham McNeill for fans of the Ultramarines, who portrays the Ultramarines as competent yet not perfect, and actually tried to tone down some of the more overt Mary Sueisms that Matt Ward put in. Ward then tried to retcon that out.
      • That said this statement is a major Base Breaker as an equal number of fans are glad.
    • Writer Dan Abnett is this to practically any facet of lore he writes, such is his popularity. As far as many players are concerned, however, he is and always will be that guy who gave the Imperial Guard a fleshing out in Gaunt's Ghosts. The codexes turned the army from incompetent joke to unstoppable gods of armoured warfare on the actual tabletop, but it was Abnett who brought about this transformation in the fluff.
    • On the note of writers, Sandy Mitchell, known for the Ciaphas Cain novels, is this for the setting as a whole: while other writers present the universe as an absurdly grim and utterly irredeemable hellhole, Mitchell adds familiar domestic touches such as cups of tea and rugby telecasts, turning the Imperium into a corruption and incompetence-riddled but basically functional real-life state like the US or UK, with a lot of Gothic Punk technology for flavour. Mitchell's approach is viewed fondly by many fans.
  • Narm:
    • 1d4chan on Rogue Trader: "Warning: Contains dangerous amounts of 80's."
    • The Dark Eldar were stuck using 3rd Edition models for twelve years, until they got an update (and some new miniatures) in 2010. The old models didn't age well, to say the least.
  • Narm Charm: You might note the attitude of this page is that the writers are trying too hard, but we love it for that.
  • Nausea Fuel: Nurgle and everything and everyone associated with him.
  • Never Live It Down: Matt Ward will probably never live down the number of Game Breaker codexes he wrote. Grey Knights is the infamous one, not least because its Game Breaker aspects were compounded by the now-notorious accompanying fluff. He's also become truly infamous for the White Dwarf interview in which he stated all Space Marines see the primarch of the Ultramarines as their spiritual liege. It's to the point that fans speculate the reason Games Workshop no longer credits individual writers for codexes is because any book with his name on it is destined to be savaged by the fans.
  • Nightmare Fuel: Has its share.
  • Older Than They Think: The Orks were speaking like that well before the lolcat phenomenon, thank you very much.
  • Psychopathic Man Child:
    • Some of the more diehard fans certainly can come off looking like real life examples, especially if they start to project the paranoia, intolerance, and xenophobia of the setting onto other games, media, and real life.
  • Purity Sue:
    • The Ultramarines and Grey Knights have been accused of this under Matt Ward. Sanguinius, on the other hand, embodies many of the common traits, yet his badassery and heroic reputation leave most fans with the conclusion that he was Too Good For This Sinful Universe.
    • The Chaos warband known as "The Flawless Host" seem to be either a Stealth Parody or deconstruction of this. They were so convinced of their Incorruptible Pure Pureness they deluded themselves into thinking they were Invincible Heroes, and used that as an excuse to slaughter anyone they didn't like. They eventually ended up turning to Slaanesh.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: Matt Ward seems to be slowly moving into this. His Space Marine codexes are generally regarded as terribad, but his Necron codex is a Base Breaker, and the Iyanden supplementary codex he wrote was actually somewhat positively received.
  • Ron the Death Eater: For the most part averted, as people don't need to invent characters doing horrific things to make people hate them. The canon did it for them.
    • The Craftworld Eldar and Tau get this from fans of the Imperium sometimes. Both alien races are forces for good... Well, in a way, but the way some fanon depictions of them go, you'd think they were even worse than the other horrors of the galaxy, like the Omnicidal Maniac robots, the Horde of Alien Locusts and the Ax-Crazy Orks.
  • Sacred Cow: It is not recommended you say you're not even interested in 40K, especially if you don't like it.
  • Scapegoat Creator: Matt Ward has gotten so much hate for his codexes that people blame him for stuff he isn't actually responsible for.
  • The Scrappy:
  • Scrappy Mechanic
    • Kill points are generally hated by the fan base for being poorly balanced. Guard players hate the rule with an unparalleled vengeance because it made 1/3 of the game's missions unwinnable until the Guard players got a new codex.
    • The 4th edition skimmer rules received lots of hate because of the way Eldar and Tau players abused them (Dark Eldar not so much due to tissue paper armor and the fact that only seventeen people played them). Both armies could fire through them during their shooting phase and then use them for cover during their opponent's turn — their skimmers were assumed to simply elevate to allow it and descend afterward. Realistic, but BROKEN. The Tau version got the nickname "Fish of Fury". The "Fish of Fury" was considered by the 40K community at large to be so broken, that quite a few Tau players thought it was a cheap tactic. Think about that for a second.
    • The 2nd edition Tyranid 'strategy card' table would often screw over half the opposing army before the battle had even started.
    • 4th edition consolidation rules were hated by shooting armies due to the chain reaction of doom that would always happen.
    • The 5th edition wound allocation rules are hated for being slow, counter-intuitive, and abuse-prone. More so for units with varied war gear and multi wounds such as Nob Bikers and Seer Council. The former is Unwinnable for Tau players.
    • In 6th edition, more and more mechanics are now randomized, rather than chosen as part of your army list (psychic powers, warlord traits) or decided upon by the players beforehand (terrain effects, whether the battle takes place at night, game length).
  • Seinfeld Is Unfunny: Ultramarines are generic or the view the Space Marine codex devolved into an Ultramarines Codex. The issue is fluff-wise, as Rouboute Guilliman, the primarch of the Ultramarines, wrote the Codex Astartes, which is the guide used by Space Marines to dictate the tactics, equipment, and strategy used in battle. Any other chapter using those rules is generic, but even if Ultramarines had a unique codex, it would look exactly like the generic Space Marine codex. The non-generic chapters are defined by how they differ from the Ultramarines. The first 2nd Edition Space Marine codex was Codex: Ultramarines, which makes the entire situation even funnier.
  • Spotlight-Stealing Squad: The Space Marines in the game as a whole, and the Ultramarines amongst the Space Marines themselves.
  • Squick: The Dark Eldar live on it, Nurgle and Slaanesh are made of it, and yet they were somehow outdone by the Tyranids. The space bugs have a creature called the Dominatrix. Leave it to the Games Workshop people to come up with such a gross definition for that word.
  • "Stop Having Fun" Guys: The reaction to 6th Edition really illustrates this within portions of the fan base. The wailing and gnashing of teeth about the introduction of random terrain effects and mission objectives with strange effects is an almost textbook example. There's also been a ton of complaints about randomized psychic powers, but the rage against that part is actually grounded: psykers are often commander units who should know damn well what powers they use going into battle, and many powers are a pretty integral part of your strategy.
  • Tear Jerker:
    • For a series that is so insane, its casual treatment of unbelievable courage in the face of impossible odds makes it a favorite for those who don't mind shedding Manly Tears.
      • Indeed, there's a reason why the novels focusing on the Imperial Guard in particular are so successful, as they slap a human face on the setting and more often than not - dare I say it? - a touch of optimism and faith in the human spirit. It's the insanity of the setting that makes this so effective.
      • This is summed up best by Dan Abnett:
      In the grim darkness of the future, there is more than war. There are real people too.
  • They Changed it, Now it's Heresy:
    • Practically a warcry for the hardcore 40k fandom. The fans love to bitch about the game almost as much, if not more so, than they like to play the game itself.
    • Was true, however, in regard to the awful third design of Citadel paint pots (the screw-top), which would universally either seal itself with spilled paint or fail to seal properly due to spilled paint after a handful of uses. Had a happy ending, though, since eventually GW realised people were buying paint from other companies and went back to the flip-top design.
  • This Is Your Premise On Crazy Awesome: Warhammer 40000 is your Standard Sci Fi Setting injected with a cocktail of every drug known to man and genuine lunar dust, stuck in a blender with Alien, Mechwarrior, Starship Troopers, Star Wars, and teeny, tiny sprinkles of Judge Dredd and 2000AD, embellished with spikes and prayer scrolls, bathed in blood and turned up to Eleventy Zillion (and then set on fire). Twice. With 8ft chainsaws.
  • Tier-Induced Scrappy:
    • The Imperial Guard. They used to be hated for being horribly weak in the most popular game modes. With the release of their new codex, people now hate them for having some of the strongest vehicle army lists.
    • Daemons, especially since they have an (now extremely powerful) army designed to curb stomp them, and the long-overdue for an update. Sisters of Battle/Witch Hunters are getting there.
      • And, with the Sisters of Battle getting a codex that was spread over two issues of the official Games Workshop magazine- White Dwarf- they're there: written by Robin Cruddace (who also wrote the overpowered Imperial Guard codex and the underpowered Tyranid codex), it has a number of major problems; the most major is each unit has a power of faith that can be activated by spending a faith point, of which they get a rather small pool— and the pool is always the same, small size, be the size of their army twenty women or two hundred.
    • Grey Knights are a high-tier example of this. Go to the Game Breaker page for Warhammer 40000 and notice how many examples in there are Grey Knights. Or if you just want some brief examples now:
      • Brotherhood Champions can insta-kill anything if they die too.
      • "Psyriflemen", Dreadnoughts with 2 Twin-linked autocannons with psybolt ammunition. The best long-range low-mid armour buster in the game. They can outshoot the Tau, a faction based entirely around ranged firepower.
      • Plasma Siphons. Render all plasma weapons, the best weapons for taking out armoured foes, useless. Grey Knights have Powered Armor as standard. Do the math. Also worth noting that the previously-mentioned Tau have plasma weapons as standard, making games against Grey Knights completely unwinnable.
      • Grey Knights can field up to six Flying units in a 2,000 point game. Flyers can't be assaulted, making it unwinnable against melee armies like Orks and Chaos, and they can only be targeted by units with the Skyfire rule. That gives you two options: 1) play as Imperial Guard and use a list that is only really good that countering GK flyers, 2) hope to The Emperor that your limited flyers can somehow take out their stronger and more numerous flyers, or 3) somehow wipe out all GK ground forces before Turn 2, which is easier said than done.
  • Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny: StarDestroyer.net has had debates over who would win if the Imperium and the Galactic Empire went to war. It's effectively a tossup: the Imperium probably wins hands-down in ground combat, but the Empire has major tactical and strategic advantages due to the speed and precision of hyperdrive as opposed to Warp travel.
    • Then there was the one that pitted the Imperium against the Yuuzhan Vong. The Imperium came out on top because they're singularly well prepared to deal with the major strategies used by the Vong, and the fact that they're just as fanatical if not more so.
  • Villain Decay: Necrons and Tyranids are the primarily recipients of this, depending on how you look at it, though, every race in the setting could have been subjugated to this in some manner at one point.
    • Part of this is the Status Quo Is God setup, since nothing ever changes, it doesn't make the factions look very good, especially given the sheer amount of Stupid Evil that can make the setting not so much come off as Evil vs. Evil as it does blunder idiots vs. blundering idiots.
    • Chaos Space Marines have also suffered this because they're billed as the Imperium's biggest enemies and, they've been fighting them for 10,000 years.
      • The Chaos Space Marines case is at least partially justified. There are hints the Dark Gods find it endlessly amusing that the Eternal War stays eternal and they're generally just as interested in killing each other for favour as they are in killing off the Imperium. Once more however, when the Chaos Space Marines do decide to get their act together, they fuck the Imperium's shit up on a scale undreamed of by any other race in the setting, like in the Dominion of Fire, the Cholercaust Blood Crusade, or even Abaddon's 13th Black Crusade.
  • Villain Sue: The Necrons used to be this until their Badass Decay. Tyranids are accused of this now, since they're stated that if they win they consume everything from the loser, meaning casualties are nothing to them, Enemy Civil Wars are nothing to them — little more than an unorthodox testing session for new tactics and biomorphs — and they are stated to constantly adapt to most any new threat presented to them.
    • If you look hard enough, you could find reason to accuse anything in this setting of this trope.
  • Wangst: One of the Eldar paths is called The Path of Grief, its followers referred to as mourners. Their role is to be receptive to the grief of others (possibly literally given the Eldar's psychic nature) and act as a living expression of that grief, so that others do not find the emotions too overwhelming. Given the Eldar's ability to create warp-resonance through strong emotions (such as the creation of Slaanesh) this is probably quite necessary. Being wangsty is Serious Business to the Eldar on the Path of Grief with good reason.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids? / What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?: Given the subject matter you wouldn't think this would be a problem, but in England, Games Workshop stores are usually deliberately set up to appeal to 12 year olds who compose the target demographic. In the US it's considered a very adult setting.
  • The Woobie:
    • Eldar Guardians. Eldar civilians sent into battle with weak (for 40k standards) armor and a short-ranged shuriken catapult; they are used as cannon fodder and heavy weapons support in comparison to the elite Aspect Warriors.
    • For similar reasons, the average Guardsman and Tau Fire Warrior (at least the Fire Warriors want to be there).
    • Corax, the Primarch of the Raven Guard.
    • The Emperor, big time. Though he did some seriously morally questionable things when he was alive, having to murder many of his 'children', including his most beloved son, really got to him. After he was put on the Golden Throne, he further embodies this aspect: he has no control of his body, is forced to listen to the atrocities that his own people are committing, and can only watch as the world he tried to save collapses upon itself. It's even been said that before all of this, his previous lives were a testament to suffering. Now it's only gotten worse.
  • Woolseyism: The French translation of the ork tellyporta is "téla-tépula", which means "you iz here-you izn't here no more". An Orkier description of a teleporter you will not find.


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